freeni it dont seem like he was using you. that man was trying to controll you. Dayum, did he not realize you were NOT the to be controlled kind? didnt yall talk of expectations early on? some men are something extra. that guy sounds like my ex husband. he got to the USA and tried to tell me whats - what. he found his behind out my life really fast.

So sorry this is happening to you - Allah bless on whatever you decide to do.

sorry this is all happening to you but didnt you guys talk to each other about the future before? He just started behaving that way?

freeni, that is soooo bad to hear. ,

but cheer up inshallah, allah (swt) has someone better planned in your life.






my wife's I-129f got approved, on the 22nd of feb and it was sent to the NVC. and i have a couple of questions. please.

1. the approval notice is good for only 4 months, right.

2. Do you think we will have an interview date by begining or mid may. ( can we request a certain interview date)
I need to let my employer know what weeks i need off, so i can go to our interview.

3. do women usually go thru the AR too.

4. what can i do to speed up the process of getting an interview date asap.

jazakallah khair in advance,

rmash congrats on your wife's I 129F approval.

1. Not sure of time but it should be at the embassy soon. The timeline on the approvals means it should be at the embassy and in progress. The embassy can extend the NOAs so no problems there.

2. Right now they are backlogged and some visa interviews since December have been rescheduled. I know of a K1 that was to interview last week and the embassy cancelled it and rescheduled it for end of this month.

3. I know some spouses have attended the interviews.

4. I have heard of only one lady getting AR from the embassy in Islamabad.

5. Sorry you will not be able to expedite the interview. Perdesi was in Pakistan and tried and had to come back to the states since the embassy is backed up with cases.

I am sure someone else will give you some input but this is what I know from others I have spoken too. Good luck and pray for patience and understanding during the last of your processing.

Mary

1. No Clue
2.Last year quite a few of us were able to expedite the interview date by just faxing/showing up at the emabssy that we were in pakistan and wanted to take our wives with us.....give that a try but as mary said embassy is very busy and quite backed up these days.....
3.I havent heard of anyone going thru AR
4.You can talk to the embassy, fax them, have your congressman's office fax....you can do all this but there is not guarantee that it will happen.....
Good Luck!

I never heard of ladies from ISL going on AR. but, whats the status of your I-130? after all thats the one you ultimately need approval on. even if you have I-129f approved you still need approval of I-130 in order to AOS.

Freeni,
Oah, it is sad but don’t worry everything will be all right soon.
May Lord Almighty helps you and resolve all your problems.

i filed my I130 at the csc on dec 8th 2005 and they are processing aug 18th 2005.

just an update on our situation since i haven't posted in a while....


as far as the K-3 goes, my husband received packet 3 (or 3.5?) last week. his interview is scheduled for April 7, 2006!!! we are both very happy and excited to hear the good news!!!

this is the list that we have compiled so far for the K-3 interview:

- DS-156 (2 forms)
- DS-157
- birth certificate
- marriage certificate
- evidence of relationship
- I-134 (myself & sponsor)
- 2005 federal tax return
- job letter
- evidence of assets
- passport
- medical report
- police clearance
- photos for visa
- $100 visa fee

is there anything missing from the above list? i will send two I-134's to my husband, one will be mine, and the other will be my brothers, who is the co-sponsor. will my brother and i need to send 3 years federal tax forms or just 2005's?

will my husband need to send any of the documents on the list right now, or does he just need to have everything on the list ready when he goes for his interview?

i hope everyone else is doing well!!!


by the way, i still don't know if we should continue with the I-130, since we now have an interview date for K-3 visa......any thoughts on whether or not we should still pursue the I-130???


regards,
molly

cons.. contuniue with the I-130.
its required in order to AOS even if your husband come on K-3 visa.

Hey Molly - don't know what to tell you about the sponsor, but the rest of your list looks good. I would tell the husband to take an extra $100 or so to the embassy "just in case" they want to take a full set of fingerprints. I would definitely continue in your I-130 also, - you never know, they just might switch the interview to a CR-1 if the case is complete and at the Embassy on that day.

Good Luck!

we have to go for 2nd interview for AOS. looks like if you are paki, they consider you guilty, unless proven innocent. the letter says that the interview will be video taped. i think i have to dress up really nice.we never had any problem at Islamabad.

Mike good luck on second interview.

Mary

now mike you had 2 AOS interviews?
dayum are you serious ??? I am sorry mike. I want Javed to come here on CR1 this AOS
stuff is a big a$z hassle. K-3 is operation waste time. I could see it being a benifit perhaps
to avoid all this wait. but, since its not doing what it said it would do. I certainly, am glad to
be going CR1.

oh wait .. i rember last time they lost your paper work.
they are putting you and your wife through some He11. I am so sorry

how common is this??? was anyone else's interview videotaped???

Edited: I just checked out your timeline Mike and realized this 2nd interview is here in the states, right?

When me and my Ex AOS. we had a witness. it was not video taped.
dayum, the big boys in the immigration world is getting 100% text book on all pakistani nationals...

I wanted to take the time to wish each one of you good news this comming week. maybe if we are good little boys and girls we can finally get out of AR/AP he11. hopefully, the embassy truely is done with partying with bush. we all need them dayum visas- NOW. so hang in there kids! lets all pray we get a good week!

I am feeling a bit better - but. gonna be out of commission later today.
gotta take some meds that will knock me out

I finally got my K-3 case approved yesterday which I applied back in July. Not that I would be going for it now but thought to share.

Wow it took that long Perdesi? I know both of mine arrived within one week to embassy. Any news on your interview date yet?

Mary

The strange thing is that I never sent my RFE for K-3 case and still approved the case.
Yes, interview is in 2 weeks for CR-1. Counting the hours.

perdesi,

congradulations on the interview date.


i thought i would email the embassy and get a few questions answered, here is what i emailed them.

i told them that i was working on a k-3 visa,

1. What forms of support do we need? I-134 or I-184? are the orginals needed? or are copies sufficent enough.
2. Does the interview get scheduled as soon as the embassy receives the file?
3. I understand the embassy sends a packet 3.5 to the Beneficiary. What forms are sent along with the Packet 3.5.?
4. Can forms in Packet 3.5, be scanned and then emailed to the embassy to speed up the process of getting an interview?
5. What is the current time frame for receiving an interview?
6. Can you provide me with any other information that will help me in the future to expidite my wife's case


and here are their answers,

1. I-134
2. Yes.
3. K3 applicants get a straight interview letter and asked to bring their letter with them
4. Answer not required to this question.
5. as early as a date is available, roughly 6-8 weeks.
6. cases are not expedited, unless deemed so by our office


thought this might help someone out there.

so, let me get this straight.

they will not send my wife a packet 3.5 just a packet 4 which will have all the papers needed and the interview date??

is that what you guys and ladies think?

I hope that offficer gave me the correct information.

Rmash..
for K-3. < packet 3 > not 3.5 not packet 4. your wife will get ONE packet. in this packet will contain a long checkless of things she will need for her interview. this packet will have an interview date already assigned. you need to send her affidavid of support I-134.
so what is the status of I-130? why are you taking the k-3 route?
you know your I-130 must be approved in order to AOS.

the checkless will be clear dont worry about it too mcuh
your interview date will proble be 3 months way out.
but, in order to get a sooner date. once you get the date contact your congressman, they can try to bump up the date. you cant get it bumped til you know what the date is for sure.

Rmash,

Just one packet with the interview date and list of things she will need to have with her once her date is set. Good luck.

Mary

the letter i got from the MSC stated that the k-3 approval notice will expire on 06/21/2006 with is 4 months from the approval date. i dont want the notice expiring and plus, i want to go there for my wife's interview date.

the I-130, i dont know?? it is at the CSC and have not heard from them yet. I am figuring that it will get approved sometime in july (inshallah) and i hope my wife will be with me here in the states by then.

should i send her the I-134 now or just wait till i m going to go there and take it with me?

thanks for the help

Once your approval goes to the embassy they can extend it past the date of 06/21/06 if for some reason that they cannot get your wife an appointment so do not worry about the expiration date on the approval.

I do not think it will be June before you get an interview either so do not worry about that. I think the I-134 you can do either way. Good luck on getting your interview scheduled soon.

do whatever you want. as long as she has the I-134 at the interview. let me give you heads up.
they wont issue K-3 UNLESS the I-130 is approves < NOA2> find out what the hold up is.
the reason why they wont issue K-3 if I-130 is not initally approved is because,
you Must have approved I-130 for AOS. < read the guides >. they will instead put your wife on AR til
its approvable. having said that if I were you make every effect to call around and have your
congressman find out what the hold up is.

it was 2 weeks ago roughly they were interviewing for May.
maybe you can get May. good luck to you.




oops let me add. expiration on the NOA. is not when they gotta issue the visa.
it mean dead line when you gotta apply for visa. applying means proceed with the paper work like you have done. there is no real date when the embassy has to issue the visa. its up to them.
alot of us have been waiting a year. none of us had to refile I-129f or I-130.

having said all this stuff. I hope we get interview date NOW. our priority date is Feb 18 2005!

oh my good ness,

are you serious, they will not issue the k-3 visa until the I 1-30 is approved? then what the hell is the I -129 for?

this is not looking good, ummmmm, like i said, the Cali service center is processing I-130s mailed in at sep 2 and mine was sent in dec 8th(noa1).

soo, my options?

call a congressmen and ask if they can speed up the I-130 process?

or have my wife go on AR?

I think i will get a hold of a congressmen today, can they speed up the process at the service centers?

What other options do i have?

thanks a lot for the info.

It is not true they will not issue K/3 visa until I130. At least I met personally three couples (my own relative) Male USC brought their wives from Pakistan in 2005.
Normally Pakistani women have no issue however there is big problem for Men.
Do not worry. K-3 rocks one of my best friend’s wife came from Pakistan in October/Nov 2005 without approval of I-130.
Their AOS approved in January 2006.

i get happy and then i get sad and now im happy again,

aaaaaahhhhhh,, this is making me crazy.

i just called the NVC today and they said my case was complete on March 3rd and sent to the embassy march 3rd. is there a way, beside calling or emailing the embassy, to know if they have received it yet?

psoft: you said

It is not true they will not issue K/3 visa until I130. At least I met personally three couples (my own relative) Male USC brought their wives from Pakistan in 2005.


so they are not going to issue or are they going to issue the visa????


from the rest of you post i think you ment, " it is not true they will issue k-3 visa before the I-130 is approved." does this sound right.


thanks for all the replys and help

well what the I-129f is to allow your wife to come to the USA to wait for the Green card to be issued.
thats ALL. typically after I-130 is approved - it can take months for the rest of the process.
so the I-129f < k-3 > was designed for your spouse to wait in the USA for all the process to be finished.
so the USICS designed the K-3 . if the K-3 was really ment to do what it was supposed to do.
All our spouses would have been here to wait out the AR dayum process. but, K-3 really is the biggest joke on the planet. the only people that really will see the K-3 are those that are men bringing a wife.
or those in other nations. but , now the process for the I-130 is speeding up. the average person dont bother with K-3 visa.

ultimately, you will have to make a choice. K-3 and AOS in the USA. or CR1 and be done for 2 years.
we abandoned our k-3 because, congressman said we would see AR but, in the USA.
for that reason I rather wait it out a little bit then get the CR1. really, the CR1 got to the embassy
really fast once we decided to persue it. we had been sitting on CR1 approval since september < my fault> i only I knew to persue things.. now i woke up. I think bwfore easter - I pray we are done!

oh one thing I forgot to add. if your spouse come on CR1 in 3 years they will get the opportunity to apply for naturalization.
if they arrive on K-3 they get the invite in 5 years. so you might wanna consider this as a factor when persuing k-3 and CR1.
btw, those comming in IR1. you get never have to remove condtions like those people will on CR1.

You can go the DHL site and check on all diplomatic packages being mailed to all embassies. It will not say for sure that it is your package.


Go to track results page. http://www.dhl-usa.com
Put in Track by Reference number I-730 and date you think your package mailed.
It will show all that were mailed out on this date to all embassies.

Good luck.
Mary

Imran.
they will NOT issue K-3 if the I-130 does not have inital approval.< noa2 >.
you should know that from self experiance!. READ THE GUIDES. <option # 4 and 4A >
you need a COPY of the approved I-130 in order to file AOS..
for all yall AOS.. TELL him! those that came on K-3 have NOA2 approval.
you must provide the copy.

Rmash,
It is true that US Embassy issue K/3 visa even if your I130 is pending (my friends took K3 route) and mostly there is no AR for women at least I didn’t hear any yet. So do not worry just pray inshallah things will be workout for you.



Rmash,
It is true that US Embassy issue K/3 visa even if your I130 is pending (my friends took K3 route) and mostly there is no AR for women at least I didn’t hear any yet. So do not worry just pray inshallah things will be workout for you.

Imran... I did not say PENDING. I said approved.
PENDING is diffrent from approval. you can have a I-130 pending
and NOT approved. that NOT approval is not acceptable for getting K-3. you can be APPROVED and while its going throught the process of sitting at NVC. that is called PENDING. you should know that you just got approval. you know your wife could not get k-3 no matter what. til the I-130 approval. so dont say you have friend here on K-3 and dont have approval on I-130. they certainly can have K-3 ONLY with an approved I-130 and await out the Process in the USA.

from the AOS guide


4a. Copy of the non US Citizen Spouses K-1 or K-3 Visa from Passport
5. K-1 Visa Holders: Submit Copy of NOA2 "Approval" for I-129F
K-3 Visa Holders: Submit Copy of NOA2 "Approval" for I-130

Rmash,
It is good if you consult to lawyer it will not charge for one question. Everyone has different view here.
Just wait and see.
May Lord Almighty help you.

the bottom line YOU CAN NOT GET A K-3 WITH OUT AN APPROVED I-130 petition. < noa2> it dont take but a few mins to READ the guides that has a link to the USICS home page that will tell you the same thing.
they can NOT approve K-3 visa UNLESS you are approvable. that means having he approved Notice in your hand. this notice YOU must provide when AOS. K-3 you have to AOS.

Good news. we finally got the bloody packet 3.5. I called embassy
my sweetie has to turn in a few Items with a letter I am composing for him. then he will send the packet off. and hopefully very soon my baby will have his visa in hand. I see the light at the end of this tunnel.

Dear Shon! Please dont give people wrong information. The purpose of K-3 Visa is to unite people while the I-130 petition is still pending! That is the purpose of the K-3 visa! Why would there be even a K-3 visa if you needed an approved I-130.

There is no such thing as initial approval. NOA1 is receipt notice and NOA2 is Approval notice. If you have an approved I-130 you can go through Cr1/IR1 or if u dont its still pending you can file I-129F and your spouse can come on a K-3 visa and file for AOS when his/her I-130 is approved!

I would appreciate it, if you would spare the readers of this forum with your wrong information as wrong information can delay some one's case for no reason! We all ready are getting crap from consulates and the INS, so please dont make our lives more miserable!

If you asre confused about K-3 read this link!

http://www.immigrationlinks.com/news/news1164.htm

Shon good news on the packet finally coming to the correct address. Good luck on finalizing this and gettng the CR 1 in hand soon.

Mary

Congrats Mrs.ShonJaveed, may Parwadigar fix your issue.

Thanks Michigan for your feedback as I mentioned yesterday in order to get K/3 Visa it is not required to have I130 approved.
We are talking totally two different things
1, K/3 visa (Embassy issues non-immigrant visa to avoid all CR1 lengthy delay, Once spouse of USC gets K/3 she/he can come and wait until I130 approves)
2. Once I130 approves (while spouse is in US) USC spouse can file AOS of his/her non-immigrant spouse.

you need to READ...
you can NOT enter the USA with out an approved I-130-BOTTOM LINE.
if you are already in the USA. example on student visa or VWP etc..
you get married and AOS . while the I-130 is waiting for approval you can certainly be here.
this is not the case with YOU BOTH. K-3 is designed to allow you to be here and WAIT for the green card.
I wont say CR1. if you are on USA soil it not called CR1.

if you are OUT OF THE USA. the USICS will not ISSUE K-3. until you met I-130 approval. after approval sometimes your I-130 will sit pending for months or longer. this is the IDeal time when you can certainly obtain K-3 visa. but without it they run the risk of you not being approvable.

try asking your attorney in more detailed questions you will get this same response. until you are approvable you wont get NOTHING. if you READ MORE detail in waht YOU are sayng and what RM is saying
then you would REALISE you are getting 1/2 of the story not the full picture.
try asking MORE questins and the RIGHT questions.


NONE of you agee with me I dont care. at this point I have explained more detail to you.
those that came on K-3 ..... I-130 has NOA 2 < approval of I-130 >.

Salaam lay kum,

i dont know what to say,


i called the NVC and they told me that the I-130 needs to be approved. then i asked a lawyer and she said it doesnt have to be approved. now i am really going crazy. Mich. puts up that link and i read it and then shon says the opposite. I think what the best thing for me to do is email the embassy and ask if they require the I-130 to have an approval (NOA2) before they can hand over the k-3 visa at the embassy.


when i spoke to the lawyer, she said this is why they have this k-3 route, because sometimes it takes too long for the approval of the I-130 (NOA2) to come.

and when i spoke to the NVC the guy didnt really sound sure, on what he was saying.


shon if you dont mind, i tried looking for that guide but i could not find it, can you post that site where the guide is located.


thanks

i Need to know Some Details About "Police Cerificate"

i m K1 packet is in the Wau to Embassy from NVC,

So i want to know can i get Police Certificate before packet Arrives to me,

What is the Procedure to Get it and From Where? Some Documents needed?

I never Been To police station before So Please tell me Some thing

i asked the embassy about the police cert. and they told as soon as you get the packet from the embassy just show the police that packet and tell them that you need a police clearance. they should have no problems with that.

Yes and you will need one from any parts of Pakistan or other countries you lived in since the age of 16 for 6 months or longer. My husband went to school in another city and had to get one from their. Good luck, Atif.

Mary

shonjaved,

I hate to say it but you are incorrect on the point that a K-3 beneficiary needs an approved I-130 to obtain a K-3 or enter the US. This is a quote from USCIS interpretation of the LIFE Act which governs K-3.

LIFE section 1103(a) adds a classification for the spouse of a U.S.
citizen at section 101(a)(15)(K)(ii) of the Act. The new section
101(a)(15)(K)(ii) of the Act has three requirements for an alien to
obtain this nonimmigrant classification. First, the alien must already
be married to a U.S. citizen who has filed a relative visa petition on
his or her behalf with the Service for purposes of an immigrant visa.
Second, that same U.S. citizen spouse must be petitioning on that
alien's behalf to obtain a nonimmigrant visa. Third, the alien must be seeking to enter
the United States to wait the ``availability of an immigrant visa.''
Section 1103(a) also classifies the children of (K)(ii) aliens under
section 101(a)(15)(K)(iii) of the Act.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/ge...ocid=fr14au01-1

A K-3 beneficiary needs an approved I-130 to obtain adjustment of status. A K-3 beneficiary does not need an approved I-130 to obtain the K-3 visa, use the K-3 visa to enter the US, or obtain an employment authorization document.

You can put your inquiry in K/3 folder (I have seen lot of people specially from UK & Canada came to USA on K3). Talk to someone who is already in US via K/3. I told you yesterday my buddies wife came from Pakistan on K/3 their I130 approved after two months of her arrival to US. I can accept that for AOS (Adjustment of Status) one should have NOA2 Of I130.
Embassy will not ask someone by the time of K/3 interview to produce I130 NOA2. Visa consular entitled to ask K/3’s NOA2.
You have already seen SCY comments.
Do not worry my friend K/3 will inshallah help you.

Wasalam,