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sailorinaz
Today I recieved rejection notices for my step-daughters. One is 10 and the other is 8. They rejected the application because the girls did not sign in Block 16. I signed as the person who prepared the form. What if one of the girls was only 3 years old, would they still expect a signature?
Dr_LHA
Application for Employment? Are you sure you mean that?
sailorinaz
QUOTE(Dr_LHA @ Jul 18 2007, 03:53 PM) *
Application for Employment? Are you sure you mean that?


Completing an application for an employment is the only way for me to get the girls social security numbers. At least I am 99% sure it is the only way.

FORM I-765 APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION

The girls came here under a K2 visa.
Dr_LHA
Why would a 10 year old and an 8 year old need a SS number? Can't you just wait until they have their green cards?
sailorinaz
QUOTE(Dr_LHA @ Jul 18 2007, 04:20 PM) *
Why would a 10 year old and an 8 year old need a SS number? Can't you just wait until they have their green cards?


Causes Tax problems if they don't have SSN's. Also, I am retired military and the military requires that hey have SSN's for thier ID cards. I think it is just about impossible to function in the USA without a SSN.
mybackpages
QUOTE(sailorinaz @ Jul 18 2007, 06:42 PM) *
QUOTE(Dr_LHA @ Jul 18 2007, 04:20 PM) *
Why would a 10 year old and an 8 year old need a SS number? Can't you just wait until they have their green cards?


Causes Tax problems if they don't have SSN's. Also, I am retired military and the military requires that hey have SSN's for thier ID cards. I think it is just about to function in the USA without a SSN.



I'm sure an ITIN number would serve the purpose until a social secuity card can be obtained.
sailorinaz
I think it is odd that they would expect the girls to sign the forms. Maye some people would not feel that children need an SSN and maybe some people would prefer to use a tax ID.
Dr_LHA
I very much doubt that they expect many 10 and less year old children to file for an EAD. After all I don't think an EAD is appropriate for a child, given that it is illegal for a child of that age to work anyway, even if you are just using it to try to get a SSN. Signing the EAD is a moot point.

I think the ITIN route is what you want to do for tax purposes.
Mr and Mrs Bird
Your kids do not need a SSN number until they are able to work.
For tax reasons you can apply for a ITIN number on a form W-7. good.gif
john_and_marlene
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.
Mr and Mrs Bird
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.


Just curios. I can see on your timeline that you have recieved a SSN number before filing for AOS. How is that possible?
Cassie
QUOTE(Mr and Mrs Bird @ Jul 19 2007, 08:43 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.


Just curios. I can see on your timeline that you have recieved a SSN number before filing for AOS. How is that possible?



it is possible, I was able to get my SSN long before applying for AOS as well.
john_and_marlene
QUOTE(Mr and Mrs Bird @ Jul 19 2007, 08:43 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.


Just curios. I can see on your timeline that you have recieved a SSN number before filing for AOS. How is that possible?



It is possible for K1. It is not possible for K2/K3/K4/AOS from other visa types.

For K1, it must be applied for within 76 days of arrival or you will have to wait for EAD or permanent residence.
Mr and Mrs Bird
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 07:03 AM) *
QUOTE(Mr and Mrs Bird @ Jul 19 2007, 08:43 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.


Just curios. I can see on your timeline that you have recieved a SSN number before filing for AOS. How is that possible?



It is possible for K1. It is not possible for K2/K3/K4/AOS from other visa types.

For K1, it must be applied for within 76 days of arrival or you will have to wait for EAD or permanent residence.


Ok yes I sadly just realized that I could apply before my visa expired which is much too late in my case
john_and_marlene
QUOTE(Mr and Mrs Bird @ Jul 19 2007, 09:05 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 07:03 AM) *
QUOTE(Mr and Mrs Bird @ Jul 19 2007, 08:43 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.


Just curios. I can see on your timeline that you have recieved a SSN number before filing for AOS. How is that possible?



It is possible for K1. It is not possible for K2/K3/K4/AOS from other visa types.

For K1, it must be applied for within 76 days of arrival or you will have to wait for EAD or permanent residence.


Ok yes I sadly just realized that I could apply before my visa expired which is much too late in my case



It's the I-94 expiration that counts. You must apply prior to 14 days before the I-94 expires.
sailorinaz
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.



Yes, that is why I said I needed it for the military ID's and also for Tricare. The base only gave my wife and the girls ID cards for 90 days and said I need to get SSN's.
sailorinaz
QUOTE(Mr and Mrs Bird @ Jul 19 2007, 06:43 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.


Just curios. I can see on your timeline that you have recieved a SSN number before filing for AOS. How is that possible?


My wife came here under a K-1 visa. We went to the SSA Office with her visa, passport, I-94, and the application form for a SSN. I posted a bunch of info about SSN's about a week ago on here in the AOS forum. Please check it out.
john_and_marlene
QUOTE(sailorinaz @ Jul 19 2007, 09:19 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.



Yes, that is why I said I needed it for the military ID's and also for Tricare. The base only gave my wife and the girls ID cards for 90 days and said I need to get SSN's.


They are 8 and 10 ... Have them sign the block--or print if need be... and then you can sign above it "For <name of child> <your signature>"
sailorinaz
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 07:22 AM) *
QUOTE(sailorinaz @ Jul 19 2007, 09:19 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.



Yes, that is why I said I needed it for the military ID's and also for Tricare. The base only gave my wife and the girls ID cards for 90 days and said I need to get SSN's.


They are 8 and 10 ... Have them sign the block--or print if need be... and then you can sign above it "For <name of child> <your signature>"


Thanks. I redid the form last night and had them sign and I signed as the person preparing the form. Do you think me or thier mother needs to sign in the block above their name? Also, USCIS returned the checks with the package. Do I need to write new checks or do you think the old ones are ok.
john_and_marlene
QUOTE(sailorinaz @ Jul 19 2007, 09:24 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 07:22 AM) *
QUOTE(sailorinaz @ Jul 19 2007, 09:19 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Jul 19 2007, 06:36 AM) *
It is possible to get a military ID card without a SSN (I got one for Marlene before she had an SSN). But, Tricare (the military health care plan) will only cover a dependent for an initial 90 days without a SSN. In this case, the OP needs the SSN to qualify his children for health care. The EAD is the only route to do that before they get their LPR cards. The price of an EAD is well worth the ability to be covered for health care.



Yes, that is why I said I needed it for the military ID's and also for Tricare. The base only gave my wife and the girls ID cards for 90 days and said I need to get SSN's.


They are 8 and 10 ... Have them sign the block--or print if need be... and then you can sign above it "For <name of child> <your signature>"


Thanks. I redid the form last night and had them sign and I signed as the person preparing the form. Do you think me or thier mother needs to sign in the block above their name? Also, USCIS returned the checks with the package. Do I need to write new checks or do you think the old ones are ok.


I would have her sign in the block above thier names. If it's not needed, it won't be rejected for being there with the "For" caveat. If it is needed, it will be there.

If the checks have been stamped in any way, I would write new ones to avoid confusion in processing.
sailorinaz
Just got a letter today from the Department of Veteran Affairs requiring SSN's for my wife and both the girls.
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