It has been a huge pain trying to get a passport for my future step-daughter. Passport Canada FINALLY at least took the application once we made the trek to an actual Passport Canada branch (in Windsor). The application was signed by my fiancée and the father, now, Passport Canada has called my fiancée and told her that they are cannot reach the father. Well, he rarely answers the phone when my fiancée calls and definitely is not going to pick up the phone for an unknown caller.
Will we still be able to get a K-2 if she can't get a passport? This is getting ridiculous. My fiancée has sole custody, and the father hasn't even bothered to see his daughter in about four months or longer. HE moved two and half hours away and doesn't use his visitation, not even when he literally lived around the corner. We want to live together 7.5 miles away and we are faced with all this crap. They were never even married, why does he have this much say in his daughter's life, especially since he doesn't seem to care one bit about it!?
Does anyone know how I can go about adopting her so we don't have to deal with that putz?
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QUOTE(Jeremy + Kristy @ Jun 25 2007, 11:35 AM) 
It has been a huge pain trying to get a passport for my future step-daughter. Passport Canada FINALLY at least took the application once we made the trek to an actual Passport Canada branch (in Windsor). The application was signed by my fiancée and the father, now, Passport Canada has called my fiancée and told her that they are cannot reach the father. Well, he rarely answers the phone when my fiancée calls and definitely is not going to pick up the phone for an unknown caller.
Will we still be able to get a K-2 if she can't get a passport? This is getting ridiculous. My fiancée has sole custody, and the father hasn't even bothered to see his daughter in about four months or longer. HE moved two and half hours away and doesn't use his visitation, not even when he literally lived around the corner. We want to live together 7.5 miles away and we are faced with all this crap. They were never even married, why does he have this much say in his daughter's life, especially since he doesn't seem to care one bit about it!?
Does anyone know how I can go about adopting her so we don't have to deal with that putz?
Will we still be able to get a K-2 if she can't get a passport? This is getting ridiculous. My fiancée has sole custody, and the father hasn't even bothered to see his daughter in about four months or longer. HE moved two and half hours away and doesn't use his visitation, not even when he literally lived around the corner. We want to live together 7.5 miles away and we are faced with all this crap. They were never even married, why does he have this much say in his daughter's life, especially since he doesn't seem to care one bit about it!?
Does anyone know how I can go about adopting her so we don't have to deal with that putz?
Sorry... No passport no K-2. You're going to somehow get him to talk to Passport Canada.
You're going to need his permission for you to adopt her as you'll need him to voluntarilly sever his parental rights. You're going to need a letter from him to get the K-2 visa as well...
Somehow, you're going to need to find out what it will take to get him to cooperate, or it's going to be along road for you both..
I may be wrong but I think you will need a passport for your stepdaughter before the consulate will issue a K2 visa. Hopefully someone else who had a similar experience will be able to give you a better answer.
Good luck
Good luck
Hopefully he got the message over the weekend that he really needs to talk to Passport Canada. What kind of letter do you think we'll need, zyggy? Since this is Canada, will that letter need to be witnessed and signed by twelve different doctors or professionals that has known all of us for over 3 years?
I'd imagine she'll have to go back to court to change the court order, too. Maybe we can have him give up his rights already now instead of later. How would visitation rights and waiting for Advance Parole to come in work?
I'd imagine she'll have to go back to court to change the court order, too. Maybe we can have him give up his rights already now instead of later. How would visitation rights and waiting for Advance Parole to come in work?
QUOTE(zyggy @ Jun 25 2007, 11:46 AM)
Sorry... No passport no K-2. You're going to somehow get him to talk to Passport Canada.
You're going to need his permission for you to adopt her as you'll need him to voluntarilly sever his parental rights. You're going to need a letter from him to get the K-2 visa as well...
Somehow, you're going to need to find out what it will take to get him to cooperate, or it's going to be along road for you both..
You're going to need his permission for you to adopt her as you'll need him to voluntarilly sever his parental rights. You're going to need a letter from him to get the K-2 visa as well...
Somehow, you're going to need to find out what it will take to get him to cooperate, or it's going to be along road for you both..
QUOTE(Jeremy + Kristy @ Jun 25 2007, 11:55 AM)
Hopefully he got the message over the weekend that he really needs to talk to Passport Canada. What kind of letter do you think we'll need, zyggy? Since this is Canada, will that letter need to be witnessed and signed by twelve different doctors or professionals that has known all of us for over 3 years?
I'd imagine she'll have to go back to court to change the court order, too. Maybe we can have him give up his rights already now instead of later. How would visitation rights and waiting for Advance Parole to come in work?
I'd imagine she'll have to go back to court to change the court order, too. Maybe we can have him give up his rights already now instead of later. How would visitation rights and waiting for Advance Parole to come in work?
QUOTE(zyggy @ Jun 25 2007, 11:46 AM)
Sorry... No passport no K-2. You're going to somehow get him to talk to Passport Canada.
You're going to need his permission for you to adopt her as you'll need him to voluntarilly sever his parental rights. You're going to need a letter from him to get the K-2 visa as well...
Somehow, you're going to need to find out what it will take to get him to cooperate, or it's going to be along road for you both..
You're going to need his permission for you to adopt her as you'll need him to voluntarilly sever his parental rights. You're going to need a letter from him to get the K-2 visa as well...
Somehow, you're going to need to find out what it will take to get him to cooperate, or it's going to be along road for you both..
I'm not sure of the specifics as I did not have to do it myself, but the consulate will require a signed letter, witnessed by a Notary Public that he consents to the Child immigrating to the US. About the visitation, most others have worked it out that there will be additional visitiation to make up for what was lost while they were waiting for AP. But the specifics of that have to be worked out between the two parents.
QUOTE(Jeremy + Kristy @ Jun 25 2007, 10:35 AM)
It has been a huge pain trying to get a passport for my future step-daughter. Passport Canada FINALLY at least took the application once we made the trek to an actual Passport Canada branch (in Windsor). The application was signed by my fiancée and the father, now, Passport Canada has called my fiancée and told her that they are cannot reach the father. Well, he rarely answers the phone when my fiancée calls and definitely is not going to pick up the phone for an unknown caller.
Will we still be able to get a K-2 if she can't get a passport? This is getting ridiculous. My fiancée has sole custody, and the father hasn't even bothered to see his daughter in about four months or longer. HE moved two and half hours away and doesn't use his visitation, not even when he literally lived around the corner. We want to live together 7.5 miles away and we are faced with all this crap. They were never even married, why does he have this much say in his daughter's life, especially since he doesn't seem to care one bit about it!?
Does anyone know how I can go about adopting her so we don't have to deal with that putz?
Will we still be able to get a K-2 if she can't get a passport? This is getting ridiculous. My fiancée has sole custody, and the father hasn't even bothered to see his daughter in about four months or longer. HE moved two and half hours away and doesn't use his visitation, not even when he literally lived around the corner. We want to live together 7.5 miles away and we are faced with all this crap. They were never even married, why does he have this much say in his daughter's life, especially since he doesn't seem to care one bit about it!?
Does anyone know how I can go about adopting her so we don't have to deal with that putz?
Hi there,
I had to get Passports for my 2 daughters that I have sole custody with. I wrote passport Cda a letter and sent them a copy of the ppwk showing that I have complete custody. I explained to them that I do not even know where the girls father is and the only phone number I have for him is his mothers and she does not even know where he is (this is what she says). I actually phoned Passport Cda prior to doing this so I didn't run into the problem you are having. I did not have any problems at all obtaining a Passport for my girls.
Gosh I really hope you can get this going because without a passport you can not get a Visa for your child.
BTW I was never married to my girls "donor" either. He hasn't even called in about 1 year.....they have stopped asking about him. His loss.....my fiance's gain. You should talk to a US Attorney to do a step-parent adoption. I have heard it is not all that difficult, but you will lose the child support payments. Well for me I don't get that anyways simply because nobody knows where he is even his family...lol.
Good luck with everything and keep us posted as to what happens. I'd be really interested especially what you find out about adoption because I know eventually we are going that route.
Right now I'm "officially" crossing on July 2 with my Visas and getting married July 7 in Vegas where it will be hotter than Hades. Guess we will have a clothing optional wedding due to the heat!!!! j/k
Ron (my fiance) does eventually want to adopt my girls....we just wish we could get some $$$ out of the "donor"...lol.
cya
V
Thanks, vnoe. I was sure that someone else must have had something similar.
Kristy, and I, are just scared of the worst-case-scenarios right now. She had asked the Passport Canada lady on the phone, "Well, what will happen if you can't contact him?" and she stated that she won't be able to get her passport. WHY DID WE GO THROUGH ALL THE TROUBLE OF TRACKING HIM DOWN TO GET HIM TO SIGN THE APPLICATION, THEN! It even clearly states on the form that either parent can apply. Finally after all that and the third office we went to, we were able to get them to accept the application.
Were you asked about your K2s at the consulate interview, or were you asked to submit anything to them about your situation?
Hi there,
I had to get Passports for my 2 daughters that I have sole custody with. I wrote passport Cda a letter and sent them a copy of the ppwk showing that I have complete custody. I explained to them that I do not even know where the girls father is and the only phone number I have for him is his mothers and she does not even know where he is (this is what she says). I actually phoned Passport Cda prior to doing this so I didn't run into the problem you are having. I did not have any problems at all obtaining a Passport for my girls.
Gosh I really hope you can get this going because without a passport you can not get a Visa for your child.
BTW I was never married to my girls "donor" either. He hasn't even called in about 1 year.....they have stopped asking about him. His loss.....my fiance's gain. You should talk to a US Attorney to do a step-parent adoption. I have heard it is not all that difficult, but you will lose the child support payments. Well for me I don't get that anyways simply because nobody knows where he is even his family...lol.
Good luck with everything and keep us posted as to what happens. I'd be really interested especially what you find out about adoption because I know eventually we are going that route.
Right now I'm "officially" crossing on July 2 with my Visas and getting married July 7 in Vegas where it will be hotter than Hades. Guess we will have a clothing optional wedding due to the heat!!!! j/k
Ron (my fiance) does eventually want to adopt my girls....we just wish we could get some $$$ out of the "donor"...lol.
cya
V
Kristy, and I, are just scared of the worst-case-scenarios right now. She had asked the Passport Canada lady on the phone, "Well, what will happen if you can't contact him?" and she stated that she won't be able to get her passport. WHY DID WE GO THROUGH ALL THE TROUBLE OF TRACKING HIM DOWN TO GET HIM TO SIGN THE APPLICATION, THEN! It even clearly states on the form that either parent can apply. Finally after all that and the third office we went to, we were able to get them to accept the application.
Were you asked about your K2s at the consulate interview, or were you asked to submit anything to them about your situation?
QUOTE(vnoe @ Jun 25 2007, 02:57 PM)
QUOTE(Jeremy + Kristy @ Jun 25 2007, 10:35 AM)
It has been a huge pain trying to get a passport for my future step-daughter. Passport Canada FINALLY at least took the application once we made the trek to an actual Passport Canada branch (in Windsor). The application was signed by my fiancée and the father, now, Passport Canada has called my fiancée and told her that they are cannot reach the father. Well, he rarely answers the phone when my fiancée calls and definitely is not going to pick up the phone for an unknown caller.
Will we still be able to get a K-2 if she can't get a passport? This is getting ridiculous. My fiancée has sole custody, and the father hasn't even bothered to see his daughter in about four months or longer. HE moved two and half hours away and doesn't use his visitation, not even when he literally lived around the corner. We want to live together 7.5 miles away and we are faced with all this crap. They were never even married, why does he have this much say in his daughter's life, especially since he doesn't seem to care one bit about it!?
Does anyone know how I can go about adopting her so we don't have to deal with that putz?
Will we still be able to get a K-2 if she can't get a passport? This is getting ridiculous. My fiancée has sole custody, and the father hasn't even bothered to see his daughter in about four months or longer. HE moved two and half hours away and doesn't use his visitation, not even when he literally lived around the corner. We want to live together 7.5 miles away and we are faced with all this crap. They were never even married, why does he have this much say in his daughter's life, especially since he doesn't seem to care one bit about it!?
Does anyone know how I can go about adopting her so we don't have to deal with that putz?
Hi there,
I had to get Passports for my 2 daughters that I have sole custody with. I wrote passport Cda a letter and sent them a copy of the ppwk showing that I have complete custody. I explained to them that I do not even know where the girls father is and the only phone number I have for him is his mothers and she does not even know where he is (this is what she says). I actually phoned Passport Cda prior to doing this so I didn't run into the problem you are having. I did not have any problems at all obtaining a Passport for my girls.
Gosh I really hope you can get this going because without a passport you can not get a Visa for your child.
BTW I was never married to my girls "donor" either. He hasn't even called in about 1 year.....they have stopped asking about him. His loss.....my fiance's gain. You should talk to a US Attorney to do a step-parent adoption. I have heard it is not all that difficult, but you will lose the child support payments. Well for me I don't get that anyways simply because nobody knows where he is even his family...lol.
Good luck with everything and keep us posted as to what happens. I'd be really interested especially what you find out about adoption because I know eventually we are going that route.
Right now I'm "officially" crossing on July 2 with my Visas and getting married July 7 in Vegas where it will be hotter than Hades. Guess we will have a clothing optional wedding due to the heat!!!! j/k
Ron (my fiance) does eventually want to adopt my girls....we just wish we could get some $$$ out of the "donor"...lol.
cya
V
When I had my interview I took the paperwork showing that I had full custody. Other than that they didn't ask for anything else out of the norm. I honestly had no problems at all with their end. There is no way that they could contact the "donor" anyways......he is somehow "missing". Oh I could go on and on about that one!!! lol....
Anyways, if you can get a passport and show that your fiancee has full custody you should have no problems.
Anyways, if you can get a passport and show that your fiancee has full custody you should have no problems.
I'm not sure I understand why there is an issue with obtaining your passport.
My husband (a Canadian, Ontario) has legal custody of his two boys (my stepsons - ages 15 and 17) and that is all that was necessary to obtain their passports.
With legal sole custody, there was no question with the passport....
My husband (a Canadian, Ontario) has legal custody of his two boys (my stepsons - ages 15 and 17) and that is all that was necessary to obtain their passports.
With legal sole custody, there was no question with the passport....
QUOTE(Jeremy + Kristy @ Jun 25 2007, 11:35 AM)
It has been a huge pain trying to get a passport for my future step-daughter. Passport Canada FINALLY at least took the application once we made the trek to an actual Passport Canada branch (in Windsor). The application was signed by my fiancée and the father, now, Passport Canada has called my fiancée and told her that they are cannot reach the father. Well, he rarely answers the phone when my fiancée calls and definitely is not going to pick up the phone for an unknown caller.
Will we still be able to get a K-2 if she can't get a passport? This is getting ridiculous. My fiancée has sole custody, and the father hasn't even bothered to see his daughter in about four months or longer. HE moved two and half hours away and doesn't use his visitation, not even when he literally lived around the corner. We want to live together 7.5 miles away and we are faced with all this crap. They were never even married, why does he have this much say in his daughter's life, especially since he doesn't seem to care one bit about it!?
Does anyone know how I can go about adopting her so we don't have to deal with that putz?
Will we still be able to get a K-2 if she can't get a passport? This is getting ridiculous. My fiancée has sole custody, and the father hasn't even bothered to see his daughter in about four months or longer. HE moved two and half hours away and doesn't use his visitation, not even when he literally lived around the corner. We want to live together 7.5 miles away and we are faced with all this crap. They were never even married, why does he have this much say in his daughter's life, especially since he doesn't seem to care one bit about it!?
Does anyone know how I can go about adopting her so we don't have to deal with that putz?
It all depends on access. If Parent A has custody and Parent B has 'specified' access, meaning everyone other weekend from Friday at 8pm till Sunday at 6pm, then Parent B has to sign the form and verbally consent that it was them that signed the form (since a lot of people forge the other parent's signature in an attempt to take off with the kids). If Parent A has custody and there's no mention in any legal paper about Parent B then there's no worry about needing Parent B to consent cause they have no 'layed out' right with the court. Same if Parent A has custody and Parent B has reasonable access upon reasonable notice to Parent A. Passport Canada can't make a passport that's only good for 2 weekends out of the month if that child is supposed to be in canada the other 2 weekends visiting a parent. We have to be careful not to step on anyone's legal rights that are spelled out in legal papers and we also can't be party to anyone trying to take the child away from the other parent for whatever reason.
I hope that kinda makes sense. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong as I've heard alot of scary stories involving custody and kids (as well as some good ones) while working there.
I hope that kinda makes sense. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong as I've heard alot of scary stories involving custody and kids (as well as some good ones) while working there.
Are you sure she has SOLE Legal Custody and not Joint custody and her being the primary caregiver?
I ask because I have joint custody of my daughter and was the primary caregiver before I moved here. I wanted her to visit the states many times before we even put in for a visa So she needed a passport. Both her father and I had to sign for the passport because we had JOINT Custody.
He was all for my daughter moving to the states until just before the Interview (2 weeks) and recinded his letter of consent to let her move. Because of this, she wasn't allowed to move here with me. She had to stay behind with him. In Canadian Federal Law, once the child is 12 yrs of age, they can decide whom she wants to live with. My daughter turns 12 next year and has already made her desires known to both my exhusband and myself.
She comes here every summer( she's arriving Sunday), Spring break, American T Giving & Christmas. Once she moves here, the court will let her determine how often she wants to see her biological dad.
BTW, my ex said the only reason he wanted my daughter & recinded the consent, was because he knew how much my hubby & I wanted her to live with us. He never bothered to think of what was best for our daughter.
Oh Well, Karma's a Biotch and he'll get whats coming to him!
I ask because I have joint custody of my daughter and was the primary caregiver before I moved here. I wanted her to visit the states many times before we even put in for a visa So she needed a passport. Both her father and I had to sign for the passport because we had JOINT Custody.
He was all for my daughter moving to the states until just before the Interview (2 weeks) and recinded his letter of consent to let her move. Because of this, she wasn't allowed to move here with me. She had to stay behind with him. In Canadian Federal Law, once the child is 12 yrs of age, they can decide whom she wants to live with. My daughter turns 12 next year and has already made her desires known to both my exhusband and myself.
She comes here every summer( she's arriving Sunday), Spring break, American T Giving & Christmas. Once she moves here, the court will let her determine how often she wants to see her biological dad.
BTW, my ex said the only reason he wanted my daughter & recinded the consent, was because he knew how much my hubby & I wanted her to live with us. He never bothered to think of what was best for our daughter.
Oh Well, Karma's a Biotch and he'll get whats coming to him!
QUOTE(vnoe @ Jun 25 2007, 02:57 PM)
Right now I'm "officially" crossing on July 2 with my Visas and getting married July 7 in Vegas where it will be hotter than Hades. Guess we will have a clothing optional wedding due to the heat!!!! j/k
cya
V
cya
V
Just curious where in Vegas you are getting married since I'm getting married there on July 7 too LOL Apparently there are 50 000 of us tying the knot on that day out there.
Oh ya and there's the whole joint custody thingy too. Sorry too many variable when it comes to kids and legal papers at the passport office.
QUOTE(raphael7546 @ Jun 25 2007, 09:58 PM)
Are you sure she has SOLE Legal Custody and not Joint custody and her being the primary caregiver?
I ask because I have joint custody of my daughter and was the primary caregiver before I moved here. I wanted her to visit the states many times before we even put in for a visa So she needed a passport. Both her father and I had to sign for the passport because we had JOINT Custody.
He was all for my daughter moving to the states until just before the Interview (2 weeks) and recinded his letter of consent to let her move. Because of this, she wasn't allowed to move here with me. She had to stay behind with him. In Canadian Federal Law, once the child is 12 yrs of age, they can decide whom she wants to live with. My daughter turns 12 next year and has already made her desires known to both my exhusband and myself.
She comes here every summer( she's arriving Sunday), Spring break, American T Giving & Christmas. Once she moves here, the court will let her determine how often she wants to see her biological dad.
BTW, my ex said the only reason he wanted my daughter & recinded the consent, was because he knew how much my hubby & I wanted her to live with us. He never bothered to think of what was best for our daughter.
Oh Well, Karma's a Biotch and he'll get whats coming to him!
I ask because I have joint custody of my daughter and was the primary caregiver before I moved here. I wanted her to visit the states many times before we even put in for a visa So she needed a passport. Both her father and I had to sign for the passport because we had JOINT Custody.
He was all for my daughter moving to the states until just before the Interview (2 weeks) and recinded his letter of consent to let her move. Because of this, she wasn't allowed to move here with me. She had to stay behind with him. In Canadian Federal Law, once the child is 12 yrs of age, they can decide whom she wants to live with. My daughter turns 12 next year and has already made her desires known to both my exhusband and myself.
She comes here every summer( she's arriving Sunday), Spring break, American T Giving & Christmas. Once she moves here, the court will let her determine how often she wants to see her biological dad.
BTW, my ex said the only reason he wanted my daughter & recinded the consent, was because he knew how much my hubby & I wanted her to live with us. He never bothered to think of what was best for our daughter.
Oh Well, Karma's a Biotch and he'll get whats coming to him!
GAH! Now you're scaring me. That's exactly what we don't want happening. She's so excited about moving here with me. Me emigrating to Canada instead wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, mostly trying to sell my house in this market we have here would be the problem.
QUOTE(Jeremy + Kristy @ Jun 26 2007, 12:33 AM)
GAH! Now you're scaring me. That's exactly what we don't want happening. She's so excited about moving here with me. Me emigrating to Canada instead wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, mostly trying to sell my house in this market we have here would be the problem.
Market problem in port huron? naw, surely you jest!
heh, had the market not been so fubar'd, i probably would have given up on immagration long ago, sold the house and moved to canada =P
As an update. the bio-dad finally called Passport Canada back, and we have received my future step-daughter's passport. Still waiting on Kristy's, though.
My experience - I have had sole custody since Day 1, and officially through the Ontario courts since my daughter was 5. Her father had seen her a handful of times and not since her 3rd Birthday. She is now 15.
I went to get her passport last year, custody papers in hand, long birth certificate and everything and the silly woman at the booth still said 'How do I know this is the most recent order for custody?' Good question! How do I prove I'm not showing the paper which gives me rights, but there wasn't another one last year reversing that? I simply explained it to her...also, when my custody papers were drawn up, the judge added specific wording that I could apply for a passport and travel anywhere with the child without the other parent's permission.
I suppose she could have asked me to get some sort of updated affidavit or something.....but I recently went through having them updated in case of travel difficulties and what my lawyer said was that the Ontario judge would just say 'This is the last court order, why does anyone need it validated? THis should be enough, it has the seal on it'
I did eventually get an addition to the original stating that we have not had any further contact with the father since the last court order...it was signed, witnessed and is an official court document. Cost roughly $300.00 for an hour of the guy's time, but well worth the peace of mind
Udella
I went to get her passport last year, custody papers in hand, long birth certificate and everything and the silly woman at the booth still said 'How do I know this is the most recent order for custody?' Good question! How do I prove I'm not showing the paper which gives me rights, but there wasn't another one last year reversing that? I simply explained it to her...also, when my custody papers were drawn up, the judge added specific wording that I could apply for a passport and travel anywhere with the child without the other parent's permission.
I suppose she could have asked me to get some sort of updated affidavit or something.....but I recently went through having them updated in case of travel difficulties and what my lawyer said was that the Ontario judge would just say 'This is the last court order, why does anyone need it validated? THis should be enough, it has the seal on it'
I did eventually get an addition to the original stating that we have not had any further contact with the father since the last court order...it was signed, witnessed and is an official court document. Cost roughly $300.00 for an hour of the guy's time, but well worth the peace of mind
Udella
QUOTE(Jeremy + Kristy @ Jul 2 2007, 10:01 AM)
As an update. the bio-dad finally called Passport Canada back, and we have received my future step-daughter's passport. Still waiting on Kristy's, though.
Thats a good news
Congratulations, hopefully you wont have any more glitches or setbacks and here's hoping for a smooth journey the rest of the way.
QUOTE(Jeremy + Kristy @ Jul 2 2007, 10:01 AM)
As an update. the bio-dad finally called Passport Canada back, and we have received my future step-daughter's passport. Still waiting on Kristy's, though.
Great news
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