Recently one of my friends suggested a different route for us. She is from Singapore and has had lots of friends who have married someone from overseas. I told her that Magi and I were planning on marrying in Jordan and then applying for the spouse visa. She recently had a friend marry a south korean woman in Korea and it took them a year to get her visa. Magi is from sudan, if it took a year for a woman to come from korea, a place we have good relations with, how much longer from Sudan?!

Anyway, my friend suggested something else. She has seen several of her friends bring their fiances over on tourist visas, marry and then file for a change of status. Any of you know of people doing that? Would you reccommend that as an option or steer completely clear of it.

The problem with getting a fiance visa is that we were physically together for such a short time and I happened to not have a still camera with me, only a video camera, and I was always behind it. That means that we have no pictures to show as evidence of a relationship to the embassy when applying for the fiance visa.

Any advice?

ISaac

phone bills... calling card stubs.. Emails.. IM records.. and mailing receipts.. DHL/ UPS.. ???????

any of these?

Steer completely clear of it since it's fraud and could land your fiance with a permanent ban.


I would think airline tickets, phone records, chat records, letters from family signed in front of a notary, etc. would suffice as evidence if there are absolutely no pictures at all.

That is immigration fraud. While many people do get away with it, you won't find anyone here on VisaJourney who would recommend that. Entering this country on a tourist visa with intent to marry and immigrate could cause big, big problems for you when you try to adjust status. Steer clear!

I would think getting a tourist visa for your SO from Sudan might be even more difficult than getting one from Morocco. Besides that fact, it is dishonest and not something anyone on here would encourage you to do.

Thanks for you replies,

I was just throwing that one out there.

I've been given so many conflicting reports as to time frames. Right now I have in my head that getting her a spouse visa could take anywhere from 2 months to 1 year! That's a lot of time. Time that I am not willing to spend apart. She has never lived on her own and I would not be willing to leave her in Egypt or Jordan alone.

I would stay with her during the time as we wait for the visa.

Anybody know more about time frames?

So you're wanting to wait with her in a third country while the visa is processing? Maybe you could check into doing DCF (Direct Consular Filing). You'd get married in the third country, live together, and apply directly with the American consulate in that country for your wife's visa.

Some countries have a really quick DCF process. It would all depend on where you and she would legally be allowed to live and marry, and then whether DCF is allowed there. Some others on here have gone that route. Check out the DCF forum and maybe put some feelers out there.

Good luck!

What was the outcome for you and your fiancee? Have you filed a K1, K3, or DCF? I am in the process of getting a K1 Visa for my fiance in Sudan. The process is long and frustrating.

ok, I really agree with the "do not do the tourist visa with intent to marry" thing. It is soooooooooo illegal and can give the embassy full right to deny her entry into the USA for the rest of her life. Not the way to go.

If you want to marry her and file... DCF is good if u want to live with her in her country while waiting. I remember a couple memebers that it took over a year to do it that way.
Honestly, either way you go, most places are taking roughly a year to complete. Some ppl more and some less. I know quite a few that it took more than 2 years. there is really no way to tell.
My best advice is to read up on the LEGAL options and choose the one that best suits both of your lives.
Much luck with your journeys.

amal

I think Amal's advice on seeking out the LEGAL options and selecting from there based on what is best for the two of you is great. You have heard 10 times already to NOT do tourist visa, so I think we've been pretty clear on that one. The waits are so variable, it's a craps shoot. You file your papers, whatever route you choose, and wait your turn like the rest of us. Yes it's hard to be apart, but many of us have survived it.

I've heard rumors from relatives that Amman is 30 days DCF. So, if you hang out in Jordan for long enough to get DCF eligibility - then - go for it. Easiest way.

Wish I could go for it.

Dual citizen, but no residency.

I agree that the top two posters. Marriage fraud. Big problems. Just file the for the K3 or CR-1. Get it done with. Proof of relationship is letters, emails, telephone bills, joint ownership in something, photographs....