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homesick_american
Asbos...what a joke those are.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_y...ire/6690767.stm

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York Dungeon Museum is offering free admission to people with Asbos so they can see the grisly punishment they would have faced in the 18th Century.

While today's offenders get court orders - in the 1700s the punishment was made to "fit the crime".

Over the bank holiday weekend visitors who prove they have a current Sabot will be put in a dock to face an old-fashioned "Judgement of Sinners"

For many "petty" offences, including graffiti, offenders would be hanged.

Dungeon manager Helen Douglas said: "What we're handing out Asbos for today are exactly the same sort of crimes that people would have been transported or even hanged during the "bloody code" of the 18th Century.

"While I'm by no means advocating a return to the punishments of old, I thought it might shock the Sabot offenders a little to see what would have happened to them a couple of hundred years ago".

Details of their offences will be announced to other visitors, before the eccentric 18th Century judge hands out what would have been the "original" punishment for their crimes.

Hanging was the main form of judicial execution in the UK until its abolition in 1969.

Asbos were introduced in 1999 as part of The Crime and Disorder Act 1998. They were first used in York in 2000

The "Bloody Code" was introduced in 1783. Under this code 220 crimes were punishable by death including shooting a rabbit, adopting a disguise and impersonating a Chelsea Pensioner

In the face of widespread defiance of the Anti-social Behaviour Orders issued by courts the museum wants offenders to see how they would have had their lives in the balance for simple offences years ago.

The Safer York Partnership, which holds the information on the current state of Ambos issued in the city, revealed that almost 75% of the orders were being flouted.

There are currently 41 orders in force and 27 of these have been breached.
Karin und Otto
So pretty much anyone can get in free... whistling.gif
Magenta
Shame they still don't have a punishment to "fit the crime". I'd cut all the little buggars hands off for a start...
charles!
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Asbos...what a joke those are.

what's an asbos? blush.gif
elmcitymaven
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Asbos...what a joke those are.

what's an asbos? blush.gif



Swiped from Wikipedia:

"In the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland an Anti-Social Behaviour Order (acronym ASBO, pronounced az-bo) is a civil order made against a person who has been shown to have engaged in anti-social behaviour. In the United Kingdom, this is defined as "conduct which caused or was likely to cause alarm, harassment, or distress to one or more persons not of the same household as him or herself and where an ASBO is seen as necessary to protect relevant persons from further anti-social acts by the Defendant". In England and Wales they are issued by Magistrates' Courts, and in Scotland by the Sheriff Courts. The UK government introduced ASBOs by the Crime and Disorder Act 1998."
charles!
QUOTE(elmcitymaven @ May 25 2007, 08:32 AM) *
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Asbos...what a joke those are.

what's an asbos? blush.gif



Swiped from Wikipedia:

"In the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland an Anti-Social Behaviour Order (acronym ASBO, pronounced az-bo) is a civil order made against a person who has been shown to have engaged in anti-social behaviour. In the United Kingdom, this is defined as "conduct which caused or was likely to cause alarm, harassment, or distress to one or more persons not of the same household as him or herself and where an ASBO is seen as necessary to protect relevant persons from further anti-social acts by the Defendant". In England and Wales they are issued by Magistrates' Courts, and in Scotland by the Sheriff Courts. The UK government introduced ASBOs by the Crime and Disorder Act 1998."

thanks. the best i could guess was it was a type of chewing gum. blush.gif
"York Dungeon Museum is offering free admission to people with Asbos so they can see the grisly punishment they would have faced in the 18th Century."
Dr_LHA
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 09:29 AM) *
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Asbos...what a joke those are.

what's an asbos? blush.gif

You see? This is what happens when non Brits come in here! Dammit!
charles!
QUOTE(Dr_LHA @ May 25 2007, 09:25 AM) *
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 09:29 AM) *
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Asbos...what a joke those are.

what's an asbos? blush.gif

You see? This is what happens when non Brits come in here! Dammit!

it's not my fault ya'll can't speak english laughing.gif
Happy Bunny
HAHAHAH Asbos at the dungeon.

Rubycon
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 01:19 PM) *
"While I'm by no means advocating a return to the punishments of old


I am!

Great to see what you can get absolutely free in this country when you're a chav. Chavs were the reason that the NRA was founded, because the Americans decided that they actually wanted to be able to do something about the little sods if any of them made it over the Atlantic. Thats why chavs wear those puffy jackets - as a floatation aid. In fact, if you read the full constitution it actually says "the right of the militia to bear arms against spotty little Kevs annoying ordinary decent people driving their crap 'modded' cars around pretending its actually cool for what you drive to sound like an irate wasp."
Happy Bunny
QUOTE(Rubycon @ May 25 2007, 12:37 PM) *
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 01:19 PM) *
"While I'm by no means advocating a return to the punishments of old


I am!

Great to see what you can get absolutely free in this country when you're a chav. Chavs were the reason that the NRA was founded, because the Americans decided that they actually wanted to be able to do something about the little sods if any of them made it over the Atlantic. Thats why chavs wear those puffy jackets - as a floatation aid. In fact, if you read the full constitution it actually says "the right of the militia to bear arms against spotty little Kevs annoying ordinary decent people driving their crap 'modded' cars around pretending its actually cool for what you drive to sound like an irate wasp."


laughing.gif

illumine
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 07:27 AM) *
QUOTE(Dr_LHA @ May 25 2007, 09:25 AM) *
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 09:29 AM) *
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Asbos...what a joke those are.

what's an asbos? blush.gif

You see? This is what happens when non Brits come in here! Dammit!

it's not my fault ya'll can't speak english laughing.gif



It IS English, not American.

whistling.gif
charles!
QUOTE(devilette @ May 25 2007, 11:47 AM) *
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 07:27 AM) *
QUOTE(Dr_LHA @ May 25 2007, 09:25 AM) *
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 09:29 AM) *
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Asbos...what a joke those are.

what's an asbos? blush.gif

You see? This is what happens when non Brits come in here! Dammit!

it's not my fault ya'll can't speak english laughing.gif



It IS English, not American.

whistling.gif

i was waiting for someone to catch that one biggrin.gif
and i know what a chav is at least good.gif
illumine
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 09:50 AM) *
QUOTE(devilette @ May 25 2007, 11:47 AM) *
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 07:27 AM) *
QUOTE(Dr_LHA @ May 25 2007, 09:25 AM) *
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ May 25 2007, 09:29 AM) *
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Asbos...what a joke those are.

what's an asbos? blush.gif

You see? This is what happens when non Brits come in here! Dammit!

it's not my fault ya'll can't speak english laughing.gif



It IS English, not American.

whistling.gif

i was waiting for someone to catch that one biggrin.gif
and i know what a chav is at least good.gif


For you: star_smile.gif

Leave it to the Yank half to catch it!
broma25
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 08:19 AM) *
Asbos...what a joke those are.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_y...ire/6690767.stm

QUOTE
York Dungeon Museum is offering free admission to people with Asbos so they can see the grisly punishment they would have faced in the 18th Century.

While today's offenders get court orders - in the 1700s the punishment was made to "fit the crime".

Over the bank holiday weekend visitors who prove they have a current Sabot will be put in a dock to face an old-fashioned "Judgement of Sinners"

For many "petty" offences, including graffiti, offenders would be hanged.

Dungeon manager Helen Douglas said: "What we're handing out Asbos for today are exactly the same sort of crimes that people would have been transported or even hanged during the "bloody code" of the 18th Century.

"While I'm by no means advocating a return to the punishments of old, I thought it might shock the Sabot offenders a little to see what would have happened to them a couple of hundred years ago".

Details of their offences will be announced to other visitors, before the eccentric 18th Century judge hands out what would have been the "original" punishment for their crimes.

Hanging was the main form of judicial execution in the UK until its abolition in 1969.

Asbos were introduced in 1999 as part of The Crime and Disorder Act 1998. They were first used in York in 2000

The "Bloody Code" was introduced in 1783. Under this code 220 crimes were punishable by death including shooting a rabbit, adopting a disguise and impersonating a Chelsea Pensioner

In the face of widespread defiance of the Anti-social Behaviour Orders issued by courts the museum wants offenders to see how they would have had their lives in the balance for simple offences years ago.

The Safer York Partnership, which holds the information on the current state of Ambos issued in the city, revealed that almost 75% of the orders were being flouted.

There are currently 41 orders in force and 27 of these have been breached.




Wonderful,

behave badly = Receive Asbo = free admission to Museums

behave civilized = Work for a living = Pay your fee to museum

When are these do gooders going to realise that the people who receive Asbos couldnt give a monkeys about whats in the museum or how people got treated years ago.

May as well just send them of to Disney for their annual holiday!!

Magenta
QUOTE(broma25 @ May 25 2007, 05:03 PM) *
May as well just send them of to Disney for their annual holiday!!


There were some young offenders sent to DisneylandParis (or a similar place) a few years ago. HUGE public outcry of course and quite rightly so.
homesick_american
QUOTE(broma25 @ May 25 2007, 04:03 PM) *
Wonderful,

behave badly = Receive Asbo = free admission to Museums

behave civilized = Work for a living = Pay your fee to museum

When are these do gooders going to realise that the people who receive Asbos couldnt give a monkeys about whats in the museum or how people got treated years ago.

May as well just send them of to Disney for their annual holiday!!


It's not like the York city center isn't already filled with spotty oiks with their tracky bottoms tucked into their socks; you certainly don't have to do anything to attract them. laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif
broma25
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 06:44 PM) *
QUOTE(broma25 @ May 25 2007, 04:03 PM) *
Wonderful,

behave badly = Receive Asbo = free admission to Museums

behave civilized = Work for a living = Pay your fee to museum

When are these do gooders going to realise that the people who receive Asbos couldnt give a monkeys about whats in the museum or how people got treated years ago.

May as well just send them of to Disney for their annual holiday!!


It's not like the York city center isn't already filled with spotty oiks with their tracky bottoms tucked into their socks; you certainly don't have to do anything to attract them. laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif



It is many years since I was in York, back then it was a beautiful place. I guess the riff raff move in everywhere and spoil what were nice places to visit.
homesick_american
QUOTE(broma25 @ May 25 2007, 07:46 PM) *
It is many years since I was in York, back then it was a beautiful place. I guess the riff raff move in everywhere and spoil what were nice places to visit.


The city is beautiful, but there are spotty oiks in every city/town/village/hamlet in England!
Magenta
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 06:44 PM) *
QUOTE(broma25 @ May 25 2007, 04:03 PM) *
Wonderful,

behave badly = Receive Asbo = free admission to Museums

behave civilized = Work for a living = Pay your fee to museum

When are these do gooders going to realise that the people who receive Asbos couldnt give a monkeys about whats in the museum or how people got treated years ago.

May as well just send them of to Disney for their annual holiday!!


It's not like the York city center isn't already filled with spotty oiks with their tracky bottoms tucked into their socks; you certainly don't have to do anything to attract them. laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif


Unfortunately, this seems commonplace in many British towns nowadays. Kids have nothing to do so they hang around in groups, basically making a nuisance of themselves. It's a shame because many of these towns are gorgeous towns, they're just being ruined because of a few bad eggs (or maybe even a few dozen bad eggs).
homesick_american
QUOTE(mags @ May 25 2007, 07:51 PM) *
Unfortunately, this seems commonplace in many British towns nowadays. Kids have nothing to do so they hang around in groups, basically making a nuisance of themselves. It's a shame because many of these towns are gorgeous towns, they're just being ruined because of a few bad eggs (or maybe even a few dozen bad eggs).


To be fair to York, there are concentrations of neds instead of an even distribution throughout the city. You're most likely to encounter the sock/tracky bottom combo at McDonald's (thankfully there is only one in the city center), Burger King, the pound shop, HMV, Virgin, any of those shops selling video games, any of those shops selling those tracksuits and prison-white trainers, and any offie or newsagent that doesn't check ID.

Y'know how when you can just walk through a cloud of gnats and as long as you close your eyes and mouth, you're OK? It's sort of like that in York, but with chavs.
Magenta
QUOTE(homesick_american @ May 25 2007, 08:54 PM) *
QUOTE(mags @ May 25 2007, 07:51 PM) *
Unfortunately, this seems commonplace in many British towns nowadays. Kids have nothing to do so they hang around in groups, basically making a nuisance of themselves. It's a shame because many of these towns are gorgeous towns, they're just being ruined because of a few bad eggs (or maybe even a few dozen bad eggs).


To be fair to York, there are concentrations of neds instead of an even distribution throughout the city. You're most likely to encounter the sock/tracky bottom combo at McDonald's (thankfully there is only one in the city center), Burger King, the pound shop, HMV, Virgin, any of those shops selling video games, any of those shops selling those tracksuits and prison-white trainers, and any offie or newsagent that doesn't check ID.

Y'know how when you can just walk through a cloud of gnats and as long as you close your eyes and mouth, you're OK? It's sort of like that in York, but with chavs.

Yeah, there were areas of that where I lived in London. There were some lovely, quiet areas...tempered with some areas full of the requisite chavs.
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