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Visahelp1
I was just curious about how long it takes(generally) from when the Moscow embassy gets the case to the interview date?

I did look at the flow chart but I know these things are region specific

Thanks in advance.
JamesT
QUOTE(Ryan and Elina @ May 23 2007, 08:17 PM) *
I was just curious about how long it takes(generally) from when the Moscow embassy gets the case to the interview date?

I did look at the flow chart but I know these things are region specific

Thanks in advance.


On average it takes anywhere from 6 weeks to 2 months. Usually within a few days after they receive your paperwork, your case number will appear on this website: http://www.usembassy.ru/consular/iv_dates.php

wissooner
Well, interviews are generally running 2 months from when the embassy receives the case. The question is just when does Moscow 'receive' the case. My case left NVC on the 11th and I am yet to get an interview date. Is my case sitting at the embassy now waiting to be 'received'? I dunno. Maybe it really does take 2 to 4 weeks for the case to physically arrive at the embassy...
JamesT
QUOTE(wissooner @ May 23 2007, 09:27 PM) *
Well, interviews are generally running 2 months from when the embassy receives the case. The question is just when does Moscow 'receive' the case. My case left NVC on the 11th and I am yet to get an interview date. Is my case sitting at the embassy now waiting to be 'received'? I dunno. Maybe it really does take 2 to 4 weeks for the case to physically arrive at the embassy...


My case took exactly 4 weeks to get from the NVC to the Embassy. It left the NVC on 3/1/07 and arrived at the Embassy on 3/29/07. I was a little annoyed at how long it took because I was expecting it to be about 2 weeks tops.
wissooner
QUOTE
My case took exactly 4 weeks to get from the NVC to the Embassy. It left the NVC on 3/1/07 and arrived at the Embassy on 3/29/07. I was a little annoyed at how long it took because I was expecting it to be about 2 weeks tops.


Yes, I noticed your timeline. Annoyed is where I'm headed as well...
JamesT
QUOTE(wissooner @ May 23 2007, 09:35 PM) *
Yes, I noticed your timeline. Annoyed is where I'm headed as well...


I remember I kept thinking if I knew the damn thing was going to take a month to get to Moscow, I would have preferred to drive to NH myself to pick up the envelope, and sent it FedEx to the Embassy! (Too bad you can't actually do that.)
wissooner
Well, I hope we get an interview date sooner rather than later. But we've waited this long, what's a couple more weeks...
russ
QUOTE(Ryan and Elina @ May 23 2007, 08:17 PM) *
I was just curious about how long it takes(generally) from when the Moscow embassy gets the case to the interview date?


The US Embassy in Moscow posts interview dates by the application number weekly (The MSC numbers are generated by the date they were recieved). By watching this this, you can get an idea about how long it will be. Generally, it is best to plan on 3 months. In my case, July 9th -> Oct 17 interview.
slim
You can figure about three months from when it leaves NVC. It may be sooner, it may be later, but three months is about where it's going to be. (+ or - a few weeks/months/years/etc.... this isn't a science.)
apgk
I was told by NVC that the case has left for Moscow and they use DHL for shipping it to embassy.
Wonder why would it take multiple weeks to reach embassy?
russ
I doubt that they send a package every day. It takes about a week for DHL to reach Russia when they are sent. So - that is 2 weeks +.

QUOTE(apgk @ Jul 14 2007, 08:29 PM) *
I was told by NVC that the case has left for Moscow and they use DHL for shipping it to embassy.
Wonder why would it take multiple weeks to reach embassy?
Thomas-n-Elena
Actually what I was told by NVC is that these packages are sent to NJ first to wait for a full container going overseas. The government doesnt use DHL they use military transports and cargo planes. So the package travels to NJ and waits in an APO depot, then when there are enough things to go they load them in a huge plane, it stops in several countries on its way to Moscow, drops packages and letters and other things all over the world(Kind of like Santa but more than one night a year). When it reaches Moscow it goes to a very special place in the customs department to make sure that everything is okey dokey. Then it makes its way to the basement of the embassy, where some guy got a job overseas because his father played golf with some congressman 20 years ago and was told to go work for the feds, good pay, great benefits, and keeps you out of the military. This poor shlub hates his job so he doesnt do it very well but eventually your package gets sent upstairs where it gets stamped and dated for the interview. Finally you are notified and you wonder if they sent it carrier pigeon it would go faster.
billsafari
The State Dept. sets the interview date not the embassy(why I dont know). You can call 202-663-1225 to get your interview date. You will need your NVC case number. The Embassy website is supposed to update every monday at 8am (Moscow time) but it doesnt, at least when I was waiting for our date via the website it did not update for 2 weeks (updated on a wednesday). Good luck!!!
slim
QUOTE(billsafari @ Jul 15 2007, 03:33 AM) *
The State Dept. sets the interview date not the embassy(why I dont know). You can call 202-663-1225 to get your interview date. You will need your NVC case number. The Embassy website is supposed to update every monday at 8am (Moscow time) but it doesnt, at least when I was waiting for our date via the website it did not update for 2 weeks (updated on a wednesday). Good luck!!!


The embassy falls under the State Dept. So, even if it is the State Dept. doing it, it may be the State Dept. at the embassy doing it.

Either way, does it really matter if you find out on Monday morning or Friday afternoon? There's going to be a good month or so (minimum) between when you find out and when the interview date is, and really, there's nothing you can do except wait.

I know it's exciting, and there is a lot of planning to go into how to get your sweety here, when to wed, etc., but, trust me.... you're going to have more than enough time to get everything done, and the sooner you get it done, the more time you have to worry about it between then and the interview.

Relax. Slow down a little and pace yourselves. You have a few months to wait, don't try to hurry through them, you'll just drive yourself crazy!
Thomas-n-Elena
Exactly this is step one and there are a whole lot more steps to go. Just relax, do some reading on VJ, post a little, make a pizza, or eggs and bacon with toast and butter(god I hate this diet), write your congressman and congratulate on the wonderful job of getting that immigration bill passed that way we can build a fence, a moat, get a dragon or whatever they think we need to close our borders. It never occurred to any of these people that if they made legal immigration more simple it would cut down on illegal immigration. (Please excuse this rant, the preceding message does not reflect the views of VJ or its member stations)
slim
Pretty decent rant, Thomas.

I think the U.S. would be the type of country that would feed the dragon so much it would block the opening to the cave. (Old Chinese story.)

If you wanna rant about some nice laws passed, how about the Patriot Act? Anything to say about that one?
novotul
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 16 2007, 07:40 AM) *
If you wanna rant about some nice laws passed, how about the Patriot Act? Anything to say about that one?


Don't get us off into the ditch. This is supposed to be about the embassy, not the crazy people the people at the embassy work for!
slim
QUOTE(novotul @ Jul 17 2007, 10:43 PM) *
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 16 2007, 07:40 AM) *
If you wanna rant about some nice laws passed, how about the Patriot Act? Anything to say about that one?


Don't get us off into the ditch. This is supposed to be about the embassy, not the crazy people the people at the embassy work for!


We were in the ditch after the fourth or fifth post.

I've always thought... "if all govt. employees would resign in protest.... there'd be no government left."

Larry and Maria
This may be more amusement than accuracy.
Early last year, in 2006, Peter Miami posted his method of tracking via DHL. There were some who tried it.
Here's a link to one of the posts: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...hl=DHL+Tracking
The posts were in the National Visa Center (Dept of State) Forum.
He responded to a similar question of tracking:
"Follow my instructions on The Foreign Embassy and Consulate General Discussion section."
This was Mar 2 2006, 11:29 PM.
Thomas-n-Elena
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 16 2007, 07:40 AM) *
If you wanna rant about some nice laws passed, how about the Patriot Act? Anything to say about that one?



Well my feelings on the patriot act are pretty simple, the patriot act came about because we didnt listen to our intelligence or have any forthought prior to 9/11 that someone who really doesnt like our foreign policy would attack us so instead of spying on people in other countries the wise people in the white house and congress decided it would be a whole lot easier if we gave free reign to the folks at the NSA to spy on people in this country.

Amendment #4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

This includes intellectual property and if I remember my civics correctly I do believe we have a right to free speech. I could go on but then its just my opinion.


QUOTE(novotul @ Jul 17 2007, 10:43 PM) *
Don't get us off into the ditch. This is supposed to be about the embassy, not the crazy people the people at the embassy work for!


Sorry Novotul this is the Russian forum where it is our born right to get off the path, run around in the woods, take a dip in the lake, have a picnic, fly a kite, and then get back on the path and take it home. My wife thought this was very confusing until she started talking to my sisters and found out that all our family conversations work this way too. blink.gif
slim
QUOTE(Thomas-n-Elena @ Jul 21 2007, 06:48 AM) *
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 16 2007, 07:40 AM) *
If you wanna rant about some nice laws passed, how about the Patriot Act? Anything to say about that one?



Well my feelings on the patriot act are pretty simple, the patriot act came about because we didnt listen to our intelligence or have any forthought prior to 9/11 that someone who really doesnt like our foreign policy would attack us so instead of spying on people in other countries the wise people in the white house and congress decided it would be a whole lot easier if we gave free reign to the folks at the NSA to spy on people in this country.

Amendment #4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

This includes intellectual property and if I remember my civics correctly I do believe we have a right to free speech. I could go on but then its just my opinion.



I've asked people who "support the patriot act" what they think about the 4th Amendment and most of them say "the what?"

CityCat
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 21 2007, 02:28 PM) *
QUOTE(Thomas-n-Elena @ Jul 21 2007, 06:48 AM) *
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 16 2007, 07:40 AM) *
If you wanna rant about some nice laws passed, how about the Patriot Act? Anything to say about that one?



Well my feelings on the patriot act are pretty simple, the patriot act came about because we didnt listen to our intelligence or have any forthought prior to 9/11 that someone who really doesnt like our foreign policy would attack us so instead of spying on people in other countries the wise people in the white house and congress decided it would be a whole lot easier if we gave free reign to the folks at the NSA to spy on people in this country.

Amendment #4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

This includes intellectual property and if I remember my civics correctly I do believe we have a right to free speech. I could go on but then its just my opinion.



I've asked people who "support the patriot act" what they think about the 4th Amendment and most of them say "the what?"

Yes, I think it is very respectable - the right for privacy and things like that. But I also think it is respectable for a strong country to try to protect its strength by all means possible from anything that can endanger this strength.
wissooner
QUOTE(CityCat @ Jul 21 2007, 01:34 PM) *
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 21 2007, 02:28 PM) *
QUOTE(Thomas-n-Elena @ Jul 21 2007, 06:48 AM) *
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 16 2007, 07:40 AM) *
If you wanna rant about some nice laws passed, how about the Patriot Act? Anything to say about that one?



Well my feelings on the patriot act are pretty simple, the patriot act came about because we didnt listen to our intelligence or have any forthought prior to 9/11 that someone who really doesnt like our foreign policy would attack us so instead of spying on people in other countries the wise people in the white house and congress decided it would be a whole lot easier if we gave free reign to the folks at the NSA to spy on people in this country.

Amendment #4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

This includes intellectual property and if I remember my civics correctly I do believe we have a right to free speech. I could go on but then its just my opinion.



I've asked people who "support the patriot act" what they think about the 4th Amendment and most of them say "the what?"

Yes, I think it is very respectable - the right for privacy and things like that. But I also think it is respectable for a strong country to try to protect its strength by all means possible from anything that can endanger this strength.



It's a tough balancing act to be sure.
apgk
QUOTE(Larry and Maria @ Jul 20 2007, 08:00 PM) *
This may be more amusement than accuracy.
Early last year, in 2006, Peter Miami posted his method of tracking via DHL. There were some who tried it.
Here's a link to one of the posts: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...hl=DHL+Tracking
The posts were in the National Visa Center (Dept of State) Forum.
He responded to a similar question of tracking:
"Follow my instructions on The Foreign Embassy and Consulate General Discussion section."
This was Mar 2 2006, 11:29 PM.


I am trying it but doesnt seem to work, the DHL return "too many shipments with this reference" - i have tried single dates..doesnt seem to work.
dmhweb
QUOTE(apgk @ Jul 21 2007, 08:50 PM) *
QUOTE(Larry and Maria @ Jul 20 2007, 08:00 PM) *
This may be more amusement than accuracy.
Early last year, in 2006, Peter Miami posted his method of tracking via DHL. There were some who tried it.
Here's a link to one of the posts: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...hl=DHL+Tracking
The posts were in the National Visa Center (Dept of State) Forum.
He responded to a similar question of tracking:
"Follow my instructions on The Foreign Embassy and Consulate General Discussion section."
This was Mar 2 2006, 11:29 PM.


I am trying it but doesnt seem to work, the DHL return "too many shipments with this reference" - i have tried single dates..doesnt seem to work.


Yeah... They must have changed the reference code... they seem to use form numbers as the reference code... try I-129F for a single day and you'll see many shipments between service centers i.e. TX to CA etc...

We need to figure out what code they are using for the NVC > MOS deliveries.

Try different form numbers... several years ago it worked for I-730 and that form seems to have no relation to K-1 visa applications. So, maybe there is no rhyme or reason to it. May just be random.

Turboguy
When people consider it correct and a good thing to take away our liberties I think the days on those liberties are numbered.

I am older than many of you and if I think back to how many of our liberties have been lost while I have been here I think the rest will go in another lifetime or so.
Thomas-n-Elena
Change is a good thing, an intelligent society needs to evolve and grow. Unfortunately the US seems to be in a devolving cycle right now. Perhaps we will have another renaissance. The good thing about what the original framers set out to do is make a flexible legal system that can grow and change with a society. I would like the government, fed, state and local to remember who it is they work for. I am reminded of something someone wrote down once......

A government by the people, for the people and of the people.

Its sunday morning and Im not going to rant and rail.
slim
QUOTE(Turboguy @ Jul 22 2007, 07:04 AM) *
When people consider it correct and a good thing to take away our liberties I think the days on those liberties are numbered.

I am older than many of you and if I think back to how many of our liberties have been lost while I have been here I think the rest will go in another lifetime or so.


America is going to be a completely different country in 50 years. China and India will dominate the world economy and America's reach as a global super power will not be as strong. Our influence will cease to be so influential. Couple that with the changing ethnic make up (more Spanish-speakers than English) and in effect, the country will seem not like the America it is today, but a different nation entirely.

We have the ability to adapt to the changing global environment and hold our position at the top. However, things like the Patriot Act are not placing us on a course to overcome these challenges, moreover, they're aligning us with our own demise. And hastening the process!
apgk
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 22 2007, 08:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Turboguy @ Jul 22 2007, 07:04 AM) *
When people consider it correct and a good thing to take away our liberties I think the days on those liberties are numbered.

I am older than many of you and if I think back to how many of our liberties have been lost while I have been here I think the rest will go in another lifetime or so.


America is going to be a completely different country in 50 years. China and India will dominate the world economy and America's reach as a global super power will not be as strong. Our influence will cease to be so influential. Couple that with the changing ethnic make up (more Spanish-speakers than English) and in effect, the country will seem not like the America it is today, but a different nation entirely.

We have the ability to adapt to the changing global environment and hold our position at the top. However, things like the Patriot Act are not placing us on a course to overcome these challenges, moreover, they're aligning us with our own demise. And hastening the process!


For long US has been dominant in technology and technical innovation - man on the moon, semiconductors, microprocessors etc etc, you name it. With India and China catching up, this technology gap is closing in and US no longer is as dominant.

US needs to find a new gig, something, some area where it can lead again - possibly finance !
CityCat
QUOTE(Turboguy @ Jul 22 2007, 08:04 AM) *
When people consider it correct and a good thing to take away our liberties I think the days on those liberties are numbered.

I am older than many of you and if I think back to how many of our liberties have been lost while I have been here I think the rest will go in another lifetime or so.

I was just generalizing... Nobody is going to ask a lowlife of an immigrant like meself on the matters of Patriotic Act anyways, so it's for you, citizens, to decide if it's good or bad.
slim
QUOTE(apgk @ Jul 22 2007, 10:41 AM) *
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 22 2007, 08:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Turboguy @ Jul 22 2007, 07:04 AM) *
When people consider it correct and a good thing to take away our liberties I think the days on those liberties are numbered.

I am older than many of you and if I think back to how many of our liberties have been lost while I have been here I think the rest will go in another lifetime or so.


America is going to be a completely different country in 50 years. China and India will dominate the world economy and America's reach as a global super power will not be as strong. Our influence will cease to be so influential. Couple that with the changing ethnic make up (more Spanish-speakers than English) and in effect, the country will seem not like the America it is today, but a different nation entirely.

We have the ability to adapt to the changing global environment and hold our position at the top. However, things like the Patriot Act are not placing us on a course to overcome these challenges, moreover, they're aligning us with our own demise. And hastening the process!


For long US has been dominant in technology and technical innovation - man on the moon, semiconductors, microprocessors etc etc, you name it. With India and China catching up, this technology gap is closing in and US no longer is as dominant.

US needs to find a new gig, something, some area where it can lead again - possibly finance !


We've got a new gig... it's called "invade your country and mess it all up." Two countries in less than five years, nobody can top that! Nobody else even comes close!


QUOTE(CityCat @ Jul 22 2007, 10:47 AM) *
QUOTE(Turboguy @ Jul 22 2007, 08:04 AM) *
When people consider it correct and a good thing to take away our liberties I think the days on those liberties are numbered.

I am older than many of you and if I think back to how many of our liberties have been lost while I have been here I think the rest will go in another lifetime or so.

I was just generalizing... Nobody is going to ask a lowlife of an immigrant like meself on the matters of Patriotic Act anyways, so it's for you, citizens, to decide if it's good or bad.


It's going to be the "lowlife immigrants" making all the decisions in the next 50 years. Maybe not them directly, but their beliefs, attitudes and lifestyles are going to be passed down to their children - who can vote - and they will be the voice of America's future.
Turboguy
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 22 2007, 12:52 PM) *
We've got a new gig... it's called "invade your country and mess it all up." Two countries in less than five years, nobody can top that! Nobody else even comes close!


Ahhhh, didu forget about Adolph!!!!

I do agree with your speculation about the next 50 years. It is going to be a different world and finance or any service will not keep us in our current status. When you produce nothing and live off the production of others you are a fungus. Funguses can only do so much.
dmhweb
QUOTE(Turboguy @ Jul 22 2007, 02:03 PM) *
When you produce nothing and live off the production of others you are a fungus.


No...

That makes you a Politician or maybe a Lawyer!

laughing.gif
apgk
QUOTE(Turboguy @ Jul 22 2007, 11:03 AM) *
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 22 2007, 12:52 PM) *
We've got a new gig... it's called "invade your country and mess it all up." Two countries in less than five years, nobody can top that! Nobody else even comes close!


Ahhhh, didu forget about Adolph!!!!

I do agree with your speculation about the next 50 years. It is going to be a different world and finance or any service will not keep us in our current status. When you produce nothing and live off the production of others you are a fungus. Funguses can only do so much.



Not necessarily. Having local production base is only 1 factor among myriad of other things - it alone cannot provide an edge.

If you have noticed, recently, in print, in media, in corporations, there is a huge emphasis on innovation, lot of discussion, dissection etc. Clearly "innovation" is something which US has been strong and needs to be strong and a leader. There is no other coutry on this earth which has infrastructure (monetary, regulatory etc) which fosters innovations quite like America and we need to continue leading in that sense.
Sid and Nancy
QUOTE(Turboguy @ Jul 22 2007, 11:03 AM) *
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 22 2007, 12:52 PM) *
We've got a new gig... it's called "invade your country and mess it all up." Two countries in less than five years, nobody can top that! Nobody else even comes close!


Ahhhh, didu forget about Adolph!!!!

Oh well, didn't work out too well for Adolph, did it?

There's never been, and there'll never be a superpower whose dominance will last forever. Remember the Romans, the Byzantine Empire, and the very recent history - the British Empire. All lasted a while, and then either vanished or got weaker. Somebody else will replace the U.S. as the world's leading power, it's just the question of when. I'd say, give it 50 to 200 years.

Well, I will be all wrinkled and old in 50 years (that is, if at all alive), so I prefer to concern myself with the here and now.
novotul
QUOTE(Turboguy @ Jul 22 2007, 12:03 PM) *
QUOTE(slim @ Jul 22 2007, 12:52 PM) *
We've got a new gig... it's called "invade your country and mess it all up." Two countries in less than five years, nobody can top that! Nobody else even comes close!


Ahhhh, didu forget about Adolph!!!!




You beat me to it. (I went up into the mountains for a couple days to try to forget about things like the (so-called) Patriot Act and our doctrine of Preventive War.

slim
Adolph, Romans, Byzantines........ that's all past. I'm talking present. The U.S. kind of has the market cornered on "invading your country (even against the U.N.'s wishes) and messing it all up." There's no other country on earth that can thumb it's nose at the U.N. and proceed to invade not one, but TWO, sovereign nations and plunge them into chaos.

As for the future... it's not going to be innovation, but DRIVE that makes it happen. America is fresh out of drive. We're in coast mode, and just like on the highway, when you coast, you get overtaken.
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