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athena_ny
My husband just got his permanent residency so hopefully in the next year he can start attending classes at a local community college, but the other thread on high school diplomas and employment got me thinking -- will the fact that he graduated from a high school in Peru and all he has is a Peruvian diploma be an issue? He has the diploma (smarter than me - mine is still back in NY at my parents' house), but I know it's rare anyone even wants to see it ... colleges admit international students all the time so I'm wondering if it would be an issue, but with him being a permanent resident, will they hold him to a different standard? If so, I'm going to have to start investigating the GED which I really don't want him to have to do (he's feeling discouraged enough as it is).
flames9
I'm attending a RN program this Fall at a college!! Prior to me starting to take classes I had to go in and take a basic English test and a math test. Everyone who attends the school does!! For the RN program I had to show proof of finsishing grade 12 and having it credited from an agency. I used http://www.educationinternational.org/procedure.htm Sent them my grade 12 trascripts and they stated yes it was grade 12 (cost me $75, plus $5 for an extra copy!!) They were extremely quick. I actually had the paperwork prior to them even cashing my cheque!!
One really has to check with each school/program and see what they require, as each school wil most likely be different, even when it comes to residency requirements!! As many schools, for state residents the rates are lower than non -residents!! Some wil base the residency on the USA spouse, so one can get the lower tuition rate.
athena_ny

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QUOTE(flames9 @ Apr 29 2007, 07:13 PM) *
I'm attending a RN program this Fall at a college!! Prior to me starting to take classes I had to go in and take a basic English test and a math test. Everyone who attends the school does!! For the RN program I had to show proof of finsishing grade 12 and having it credited from an agency. I used http://www.educationinternational.org/procedure.htm Sent them my grade 12 trascripts and they stated yes it was grade 12 (cost me $75, plus $5 for an extra copy!!) They were extremely quick. I actually had the paperwork prior to them even cashing my cheque!!
One really has to check with each school/program and see what they require, as each school wil most likely be different, even when it comes to residency requirements!! As many schools, for state residents the rates are lower than non -residents!! Some wil base the residency on the USA spouse, so one can get the lower tuition rate.


All he has is the diploma, not transcripts. I know the school will give me the "best" answer, but just having them tell me if I have to pay in state or out of state rates is hard enough (I moved to FL from NY, so I'm wrestling with that issue even though I'm the USC).
VisagirlNJ
Hello,

I recently immigrated from the UK and I have a High School Diploma from the UK (CSE certificate).
My certificate was not accepted by any college, I have no chance of getting any form of transcript as my school doesn`t exist anymore.I have presented my certificate of achievement to employers and colleges and it is not accepted.I was told by an international education evaluator that my certificate doesn`t transfer as education credits here and is not equivalent to the *sacred* High School Diploma.
I looked at the GED but it is SEVEN hours long and BORING AS HELL! If you fail a section you have to keep taking it again and again untill you pass; even if you ace the other sections and fail just one, you still have to retake.
I found a good online High School called PENN FOSTER;they provide a very interesting and study friendly course.It is quite long but MUCH better in my opinion, than the GED. You will get a real high school diploma on completion. They will also provide proof of attendance via written communication
Not having a H.School Diploma has prevented me from gaining employment here in the US;even though I have 18 years experience in my field.
Is he employed?
Good Luck.




krakatoa
QUOTE(flames9 @ Apr 29 2007, 04:13 PM) *
I'm attending a RN program this Fall at a college!! Prior to me starting to take classes I had to go in and take a basic English test and a math test. Everyone who attends the school does!! For the RN program I had to show proof of finsishing grade 12 and having it credited from an agency. I used http://www.educationinternational.org/procedure.htm Sent them my grade 12 trascripts and they stated yes it was grade 12 (cost me $75, plus $5 for an extra copy!!) They were extremely quick. I actually had the paperwork prior to them even cashing my cheque!!
One really has to check with each school/program and see what they require, as each school wil most likely be different, even when it comes to residency requirements!! As many schools, for state residents the rates are lower than non -residents!! Some wil base the residency on the USA spouse, so one can get the lower tuition rate.


I wish I had seen this before I had sent in application for my evaluation. I paid a total of $340 for AACRAO course-by-course evaluation and professional license accreditation.
My high school diploma was basically "useless" from the evaluation, for employment purposes.
But my postsecondary education from my country is okay. Some foreign school education rate equally, or if not, close with the US standard for education (according to US registrars organization for accreditation-of course I didn't believe that). And true, as flames9 said, "As many schools, for state residents the rates are lower than non -residents"-emphasis on that, big diff especially tuition fees.
Best to get that high school diploma evaluated before anything else.
By the way, I am not an R.N. but flames9 experience applies to my experience.
Goodluck!
krakatoa


"Best to get that high school diploma evaluated before anything else."
-Sorry for the mess, it should be "Best to get that foreign education evaluated before taking any steps further."
And I did send only my high school diploma for basic comparability (against some standard I don't know yet, US high schools) and a transcript with my B.S for that course-by-course-evaluation.
flames9
I was given a list from my college of acceptable places to get my high school/ college transcripts evaluated,so one may want to see if whatever college he wants to goto has an "approved" list as well. The one I posted above were great,answered my emails promptly, and fast turn around service, and were cheaper than many others!!
homesick_american
QUOTE(VisagirlNJ @ Apr 29 2007, 09:29 PM) *
Hello,

I recently immigrated from the UK and I have a High School Diploma from the UK (CSE certificate).
My certificate was not accepted by any college, I have no chance of getting any form of transcript as my school doesn`t exist anymore.I have presented my certificate of achievement to employers and colleges and it is not accepted.I was told by an international education evaluator that my certificate doesn`t transfer as education credits here and is not equivalent to the *sacred* High School Diploma.


I didn't think the UK had diplomas at all, just GCSEs (O levels if you're old enough) and A levels. blink.gif The system here (in the UK) seems so complicated; just when I think I understand it, I find out I don't. crying.gif

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I looked at the GED but it is SEVEN hours long and BORING AS HELL! If you fail a section you have to keep taking it again and again untill you pass; even if you ace the other sections and fail just one, you still have to retake.
I found a good online High School called PENN FOSTER;they provide a very interesting and study friendly course.It is quite long but MUCH better in my opinion, than the GED. You will get a real high school diploma on completion. They will also provide proof of attendance via written communication
Not having a H.School Diploma has prevented me from gaining employment here in the US;even though I have 18 years experience in my field.
Is he employed?
Good Luck.


Yeah, but the GED is so easy. My cousin skipped too many classes his senior year of high school and instead of flunking everything (as Texas state law requires with more than 10 unexcused absences), he dropped out and got his GED instead. He said it was the easiest test he ever took, even easier than the standardized exit exam for graduation. I mean, think about it this way; you can take a test, or you can do high school all over again. I know which one I'd pick!
athena_ny
QUOTE(homesick_american @ Apr 30 2007, 07:49 AM) *
QUOTE(VisagirlNJ @ Apr 29 2007, 09:29 PM) *
Hello,

I recently immigrated from the UK and I have a High School Diploma from the UK (CSE certificate).
My certificate was not accepted by any college, I have no chance of getting any form of transcript as my school doesn`t exist anymore.I have presented my certificate of achievement to employers and colleges and it is not accepted.I was told by an international education evaluator that my certificate doesn`t transfer as education credits here and is not equivalent to the *sacred* High School Diploma.


I didn't think the UK had diplomas at all, just GCSEs (O levels if you're old enough) and A levels. blink.gif The system here (in the UK) seems so complicated; just when I think I understand it, I find out I don't. crying.gif

QUOTE
I looked at the GED but it is SEVEN hours long and BORING AS HELL! If you fail a section you have to keep taking it again and again untill you pass; even if you ace the other sections and fail just one, you still have to retake.
I found a good online High School called PENN FOSTER;they provide a very interesting and study friendly course.It is quite long but MUCH better in my opinion, than the GED. You will get a real high school diploma on completion. They will also provide proof of attendance via written communication
Not having a H.School Diploma has prevented me from gaining employment here in the US;even though I have 18 years experience in my field.
Is he employed?
Good Luck.


Yeah, but the GED is so easy. My cousin skipped too many classes his senior year of high school and instead of flunking everything (as Texas state law requires with more than 10 unexcused absences), he dropped out and got his GED instead. He said it was the easiest test he ever took, even easier than the standardized exit exam for graduation. I mean, think about it this way; you can take a test, or you can do high school all over again. I know which one I'd pick!


English isn't my husband's first language, and he'd take it if he had to, but it's not going to be as easy for him as it is for a native English speaker, which is why I'd rather get the diploma evaluated so he can take ESL classes at college and then pursue a degree.
I just wish I knew if high school diplomas from Peru generally are evaluated to be equal to a HS diploma from any of the states.
athena_ny
QUOTE(VisagirlNJ @ Apr 29 2007, 10:29 PM) *
Hello,

I recently immigrated from the UK and I have a High School Diploma from the UK (CSE certificate).
My certificate was not accepted by any college, I have no chance of getting any form of transcript as my school doesn`t exist anymore.I have presented my certificate of achievement to employers and colleges and it is not accepted.I was told by an international education evaluator that my certificate doesn`t transfer as education credits here and is not equivalent to the *sacred* High School Diploma.
I looked at the GED but it is SEVEN hours long and BORING AS HELL! If you fail a section you have to keep taking it again and again untill you pass; even if you ace the other sections and fail just one, you still have to retake.
I found a good online High School called PENN FOSTER;they provide a very interesting and study friendly course.It is quite long but MUCH better in my opinion, than the GED. You will get a real high school diploma on completion. They will also provide proof of attendance via written communication
Not having a H.School Diploma has prevented me from gaining employment here in the US;even though I have 18 years experience in my field.
Is he employed?
Good Luck.


Yeah, he's employed but we want to find him a better job, and he wants to go to school. His employment was originally illegal so they didn't give a rat's butt about his diploma, I'm sure. (I harbor much resentment toward his employer, if you can't tell. smile.gif)
homesick_american
QUOTE(meow mix @ Apr 30 2007, 06:55 AM) *
English isn't my husband's first language, and he'd take it if he had to, but it's not going to be as easy for him as it is for a native English speaker, which is why I'd rather get the diploma evaluated so he can take ESL classes at college and then pursue a degree.
I just wish I knew if high school diplomas from Peru generally are evaluated to be equal to a HS diploma from any of the states.


The comment was directed at Visagirl; she's British so I assume English is her native language, though I could be wrong; there are people in the UK who speak something else as a first language. There's a woman at work whose first language is Welsh. blink.gif

As for your hubby...some states do offer GED testing in Spanish as well as English. If your husband's diploma from Peru doesn't evaluate to a US diploma (I'd be surprised if it didn't), then that could be an option for you guys. good.gif
athena_ny
QUOTE(homesick_american @ Apr 30 2007, 08:05 AM) *
QUOTE(meow mix @ Apr 30 2007, 06:55 AM) *
English isn't my husband's first language, and he'd take it if he had to, but it's not going to be as easy for him as it is for a native English speaker, which is why I'd rather get the diploma evaluated so he can take ESL classes at college and then pursue a degree.
I just wish I knew if high school diplomas from Peru generally are evaluated to be equal to a HS diploma from any of the states.


The comment was directed at Visagirl; she's British so I assume English is her native language, though I could be wrong; there are people in the UK who speak something else as a first language. There's a woman at work whose first language is Welsh. blink.gif

As for your hubby...some states do offer GED testing in Spanish as well as English. If your husband's diploma from Peru doesn't evaluate to a US diploma (I'd be surprised if it didn't), then that could be an option for you guys. good.gif


Oops, sorry, got caught up in all the responses.

Looking at his diploma, I don't see why they wouldn't accept it, but I have to be prepared for anything.

His English is decent, but reading and writing might be an issue so if it comes to that, I think it might have to bei n Spanish...gah.
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