Well, then I guess I don't understand what you mean. Where would such a thing be displayed? Wouldn't that require changing the setup of the forum? I don't think that's possible.

BTW .. to the best of my knowledge I have never suggested that a mover display their name when they move a post.

CB

Yodrak - your brilliance & wit shines once again.

Perhaps in the title of the thread. Not even sure if you guys are able to change those. Just an idea.



EDIT: NOT for who moved it - don't care so much about that...just WHERE it went to. I know maybe not a big deal to some, but I really do think that would be informative to be able to see on the thread list.

I don't know if it is possible to configure the forum software to perform this function automatically or not, but it is my only suggestion since the individuals that have replied to my suggestion are so adamantly against the idea of performing the action manually.

CB

i am still unclear why the moving of a thread to an appropriately defined forum is causing so much confusion. what am i missing?

Good god people, can't we leave it as Ewok suggested at the beginning of this 4 page thread?

NO EXTRA POSTS needed saying this is where the thread went. We're trying to de-clutter for pete's sake. No movers should be named either. It's not a power trip, it's an organizing thing.

I will say it again, we cannot spoon feed every ADULT on here, if they can't use the search feature in the forums themselves, then they have much bigger problems.

I'm losing the plot myself...

Beats me. I track my own topics through my profile anyway, not by going to the forum where I posted it.

I'm thinking it's just a matter of people not being all that comfortable/familiar with the navigation tools available.

I'm just afraid I'll miss something by using only that. Always been a bit silly that way.

Exactly, thank you.

CB

CB...

Ok. I don't think you're doing/saying anything wrong...but we are totally misunderstanding each other or miscommunicating in some way, because I feel like I'm beating my head against a brick wall, and I'm certain you feel much the same.

How do you propose to leave a message with where the thread was moved to (as you DID suggest, many times) without making a post??? I think a lot of us seem to be confused on that. Whether it's left by a mover, or automatically generated (which i doubt can even be done...dunno) there has to be a POST. There is NO reason for a post. YOu keep citing that we should educate people. I know my 8th grader could find the name of the forum he's in, and he's never even been on this site...so I'm sure other VJ users can as well! That's not personal toward you, either...it's just a fact.

Also, you DID state several times that it would be good if a mover would leave a message saying where it was moved to. Like I wrote in the other thread...no way to do that without the movers display name showing. I, for one, wouldn't be willing to subject myself to that.

Michelle

I just got back here and I see you just posted as well...so don't think I'm following you around waiting to "pounce"!

Anyway....I thought that is what you were suggesting long ago...movers to make a post saying where the thread was moved to...your concern was it would be too much "work" for themovers. That was never a concern to me, but I think I FINALLY see where we're having some of our miscommunication anyway....

When we move a thread, we simply click YES or NO to leave a link behind...we DONT actually *type what* the link says....know what I mean? So....for that to be changed, it would have to be something Ewok could change...and I'm not sure the board is "smart" enough to know that we just said...move it to Off Topic, for example, and it could read "this thread moved to Off Topic" at the drop of a hat...as we *could* have chosen any forum at all. Maybe the board does have that technology...again, dunno. Cap would have to be asked about that.

M.

Yes, I do understand that you cannot alter the reference link now that you have told me.

ok, now what do you think of the idea if it is possible? would it benefit the community?

CB

If Cap. Ewok says it's possible I think it would be just great! Really has nothing at all to do with us...if he could enable some kind of feature where it *always* says the same thing except for the forum title...and then once the forum is chosen (that it's being moved to) it inserts that in the wording...I can't see a reason why *anyone* would be opposed to that. There's already wording where the link is left, so if the wording could somehow get changed around a bit to be more beneficial, I don't know why anyone could think that's a bad idea!

I have a feeling a few of us just had our wires VERY crossed with what you were meaning...also compounded by the fact that you didn't realize we didn't actual type the text...moved..etc. Much more clear now. Ahhhhhhhh. M.

edited to say wording not working!

Thank you so much, for taking the time to truly understand my suggestion .. it is so great to have someone else with me on this.

Thank you also for clarifying that you do not have the ability to edit the reference link for a moved post.

CB

No problem...I agree with Meauxna...at least you are thinking about things and trying to help! We don't really have anything to do with anything as far as inner workings around here...if we see a misplaced post we're supposed to move it somewhere else and that's the long and short of it! That's why it was really difficult to understand what all the fuss was about...but I think when the others who have participated in this thread read this, they will see what you're getting at as well. (I guess I shouldn't assume they didn't see before!! I guess I'm just thinking some of them may have been thinking what I was....)

Anyway, all good if Cap could do it...it really wouldn't take up any more space at all...just different wording.

I'm out of here...have a great night! M.

Yep - I knew what CB was getting at. That's why i suggested if that cannot be done automatically, maybe it would be possible to allow you guys to change just the title of the thread to include "moved to ____ forum." I know it's in a slightly different location, but at least it's still on the thread list.

There is no way without editing the board software to change the title automatically to indicate it was moved. Maybe a custom modification could be made and in the future I may look at that because it is a good thought .

What if we focus more on teaching people WHERE to post *in the first place*? Make it more clear, make it abundantly clear, leave no question?

I know the toys are fun to play with, but we are not getting to the root of the issue: How to organize the information here to make it the most useful for the most people (is that what we're trying to do?).

The guidelines for moving threads should only have to be in effect on a temporary basis. Isn't our ideal that all users post in the most appropriate place to start with? Less moderation = more?

I think that's great! But how?

Yeah. It's not like 80% of newbies ever read the guides/search anyhow...

It goes back to my idea of newbies cannot post for a week after joining.

Maybe we need to create an "entry portal" folks must through when they register.

We are all used to dealing with reading a TOS or accepting an agreement when we register on a website. I'm sure people frequently whiz by those.

What if we created a BRIEF tutorial that had to be read before registering? And having a function built onto those pages wherein each page wouldn't close for say - 60 seconds - giving the reader "mandatory" time to absorb the material.

This thread reminds me of an LSAT question....

Lal Brandow...

Nothing! If a thread is moved to the forum that it's best suited for, then the right people will, in theory, run accros the post and read it. RESTATED: A members generates a post that does not match a forum, the post is moved to the appropriate forum, and a place holder will remain in the so others can view the post that was moved. Where is all the confusion coming from? Who knows? Maybe some members have a hard time dealing with change. Or it's an ego thing... like dahamn-it I put the post there and there it should stay. LOL!

Cheers!!!

Sheriff Uling

Why do you harbour such disdain for " newbies"? Your recent comments [this and other recent threads] read like you consider new members as something of a nuisance.
Excuse me if I am reading your words incorrectly, but your choice of words really do seem to express the feeling of real irritation at newer members; when really because of attrition of established members, a steady influx of new members will actually keep this site's membership numbers growing..which will in time, keep the site alive.


Would you have been OK with not being able to post for a week after joining?
What if you had a question or comment that was not covered by the guides?