so i'm reading and reading about people being put on more security checks/ap (i think thats what its called) likely because their spouse/fiance has a very common name. does anyone know if abdelilah is an extremely common name in morocco? i have absolutely no idea. of course there's the last name to consider but i won't post it here. lol

what other names are extremely common? for future purposes of others who might read this topic...

I think Mohammed is the most common. Those checks seem to take a while.

Ahmed as well

I don't know how common Abdelilah is itself, but I wonder if all of the names that start with Abdel would be checked, causing it to take longer, not sure.

The question is not if the name is common in Morocco, but globally. Any name that is a common Arabic classical name will get many matches. Your fiance's name is a common name found in the Muslim world for sure but its not the name that will get long security checks. Its the total name and all transliterations of the whole name.

If youe fiance has a purely moroccan last name - berber origin rather than Arabic, it should not cause to many problems unless it is similar to the Moroccns that have been identified byt the US as terrorists/criminals or possible terrorists/criminals. The list of names do include many people who are only suspects.

the same could happen if his name was Juan Martinez or some other common name globally. As far as Moroccan AP goes, it rarely extends beyond 6 months for most.



Yes Jenn, the name checks would include Abdel as a form of Abdeliah but the lat name is also part of this check too.

Do you know if they check first names and last names separately or together? If they only run them together, then having a common first name could be mitigated by an uncommon last name. But if they run them separately, then a Mohammed is going to take a long time regardless of how common the last name is.

his last name is not a moroccan sounding name. it could be anything when you hear it...... but whether its a popular last name or not, i do not know. i've never met anyone with that name. how can i find out?! i checked a name statistic website but it only comes up with results for the US (and it says 2500 people in the us have his last name) lol

I don't know how accurate a method this is, but I just did a google search on Wadi's last name when we were going through the process to see how common it was and to get an idea on whether the checks might take longer. The only things that came up were some rosters of his brother's soccer league, so apparently not that common!

Ali, Hamid are common first names maybe last name too. I do feel that the reason my fiance got his AP completed in only two days was because his last name is not common at all. Also, he had prior visas.

well i did a google of his full name...and his first name came up in a lot (including one terrorist thing in marrakech. grrrrrrrrreat) but his last name never came up attached to a person.

i hope this is a good sign!

A first name match only search is not likely to occur. Think of all the Davids, Johns, Michaels tat would be slowed down in the other consulates. The whole name and various versions of the that are triggered by the search.

Abdeliah is alsoa last name. Infact any Muslim Quranic name could be used anywhere where there are large numbers of muslims. We know there ar large numbers of muslims on the government lists.

Maybe common is not the best term here, but names that are likely to occur amoung many groups likely to be on that DOS list. I am sure there are many many John Blacks for example going through London, but how many John Blacks have comitted a crime or have been suspected of some crime? For those of us with Muslim SOs the commonality is those names that are found often among this group. The most common names are those with roots in the Quran or classical arabic.

ETA: Jen - your fiance should be able to tell you if his name meets this.

what are common possible last names that get people stuk in this secuirty name check hell?

yiKES My husband has the Twice in his name...

The list would be way too long to start listing here. and it would be speculation at best. My son has a name hit everytime he tries to fly. Upon check in the airline has to pull him aside and call DOS. There are thousands of names from all over the world- many of these names are of people who are only suspected of something.

great. i just found out from a moroccan friend of mine that my fiance's last name IS common.... greattttttttttttttt

check this out...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_Most_Wanted_Terrorists

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/fugitives.htm

Don't add anxiety to your plate just yet. Common in Morocco or common in the Muslim world? Could make a huge difference.

well i've never heard of anyone with his last name before... and checking those FBI lists he seems in the clear

remember at worst. you wil be waiting for the security checks to clear after the interview. It is a formality and unless your fiance turns out to be a wanted man then the visa wil be issued. It just means more waiting. And besides doesnt he have to stay to finish school

yah he does...but just knowing he has the visa in hand would take a huge weight off our shoulders. now i keep getting the question from everyone, "what if he gets denied!? what would you do?" argh! then i can relax AND shut them all up once we know. lol

Relax, kiddo. There's nothing you can do about this one even if he's named Osama bin Laden; ain't gonna change 'is name this late in the game.

ah ...perspective. Something we loose sight of with all this Vjing. Excellent reminder!

God only knows I've been a crazy person through most of this, and the only way our case could have been easier would have been if, well, he were American. Perspective --- that was the thingy they asked us to submit with the I-129F, eh?

Jen-like you i am concerned about about those security checks and how long they will take and if there will be a hit. I checked those sites also, and luckily, nothing even close. I have faith that we will both be getting the call on that Wednesday saying, "Approved."

Where are thoese FBI hit list posted? Can any one share a link. I never even knew they had this information available LOL

They were posted a few responses up in this thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_Most_Wanted_Terrorists

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/fugitives.htm

It's not just terrorits on these security DOS lists. Criminal activity applies as well. And remember the majority of names on these lists are merely suspects not known terrorists/crinimals. And just because your SO's name matches some on on the list, it doesnt mean it is going to take time. It is a matter of how many hits there is and where or not a manual check is triggered to sort though the possible matches.

Moh's name consists of 4 very common names and we had a 9 month AP. Whether this had anything to do with it or not, its very hard to say. Their database is immense. I remember when I began obsessing over all this before his interview and it really did nothing to satisfy or calm me. It made the journey even more difficult and ended up costing me a job. When we were originally expecting issuance, he received a request for fingerprints, 2 more months for clearance and 2 more months for issurance. All I can say is whatever will come of this process will come, its not by anyone's hands once a case hits AP. It does seem 99.9% of the time to eventually come to a positive conclusion. Just takes a huge amount of patience to keep from going insane.

I was just thinking about this last night. This is my husbands name as well. Does it matter if they "say" the last name first and the first name last? Or if and when it comes to the name check, (not for me, for anyone) do they run the name with a variation of combinations or just whats on the application?

I know a guy in Morocco, who is on AP. He says hes gotten calls to see if he had been out of the country recently. His name in Muhammad.

Is that normal? Has anyones husband/fiance ever experienced that b4?


Limah

Here's an article about issues in visa processing. It's rather lengthy, but does mention name checks and issues surrounding them that give the consulates trouble.

http://www.wolfsdorf.com/articles/Consular...sing%202005.pdf

my husbands name is getting HITs because of his FIRST and LAst name. plus the fact he is pakistani that makes it even worse. but it took 2 years for the security checks to finallyclear.