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Dan&Tiffany
I don't know if there would be any way to change this. I just find it annoying when you go to a specific board, and almost the entire page is full of moved threads. I know they stop getting bumped to the top after they're moved (I think that's right, anyway), but AH - just craziness. If only people would put things where they go, I guess.

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Karin und Otto
Over Zealous 'Organizers.'

(Watch how they respond to your post.)
Magenta
QUOTE(Dan&Tiffany @ Apr 13 2007, 09:35 PM) *
I don't know if there would be any way to change this. I just find it annoying when you go to a specific board, and almost the entire page is full of moved threads. I know they stop getting bumped to the top after they're moved (I think that's right, anyway), but AH - just craziness. If only people would put things where they go, I guess.

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I presume you are talking about the K-1 Forum. I've just been in there to have a look and can see your point of view. It does look a little disjointed.

QUOTE(Karin und Otto @ Apr 13 2007, 09:40 PM) *
Over Zealous 'Organizers.'

(Watch how they respond to your post.)


Nice.
Jenn!
QUOTE(mags @ Apr 13 2007, 10:24 PM) *
QUOTE(Karin und Otto @ Apr 13 2007, 09:40 PM) *
Over Zealous 'Organizers.'

(Watch how they respond to your post.)


Nice.


Oh damn, I missed quoting you before your edit. I'm slacking.

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Magenta
QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Apr 13 2007, 10:27 PM) *
QUOTE(mags @ Apr 13 2007, 10:24 PM) *
QUOTE(Karin und Otto @ Apr 13 2007, 09:40 PM) *
Over Zealous 'Organizers.'

(Watch how they respond to your post.)


Nice.


Oh damn, I missed quoting you before your edit. I'm slacking.

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Yeah, thought twice about it! But you know what I mean...!
Captain Ewok
I have been pretty busy with some server issues and adding some members to help on things, but you are right, I need to write the moving guide to give some more universal standards on when things need moving smile.gif.
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Test. Ironic.
MichelleandCraig
I have one suggestion...why don't we stop leaving a link to the "celebration" threads when they get moved...It *should* be easy enough to get the word out on just that one topic that they are in the subforum if you can't find them. Anyone should be able to follow that....since those are the majority of the threads that are moved, it might help to clear a lot of clutter. Thoughts? M.
Yodrak
It would be nice if more people would put some thought into where they post their questions. And, after seeing posts moved, would think about the post topic, where the post was, and where it was moved to.

Many people, seem to post in the K1 forum perhaps because it is the 1st forum they come to. Or perhaps because they will be, are, or were on a K1 visa even though the question they are asking is not particularly relevant to the visa but instead the question is about adjusting status, what will happen at the POE, or how to get a DL after they arrive. Questions about paying taxes have nothing to do with visa type.

Other questions are relevant to more than 1 visa type and often deal with consular issues (K1 and K3 in particular have many things in common, especially at the consular stage) and so are more appropriately dealt with in the consular forum.

One can learn a lot by observing the moved posts if one thinks about it.

Yodrak

QUOTE(Karin und Otto @ Apr 13 2007, 09:40 PM) *
Over Zealous 'Organizers.'

(Watch how they respond to your post.)
QUOTE(Dan&Tiffany @ Apr 13 2007, 09:35 PM) *

..... If only people would put things where they go, I guess.
LaL
on an unrelated note... i think i need to step away from the AOS forum laughing.gif . Now we have a

MARCH FILERS WITH RFE's thread. good lord. hey you know what? I am all for cheerleading and support. i just feel like the *emotional crutches* threads are out numbering the ACTUAL *i have a legitimate question thread*.

ah well... maybe this is the new face of VJ.

Jenn!
QUOTE(Yodrak @ Apr 14 2007, 11:03 AM) *
It would be nice if more people would put some thought into where they post their questions. And, after seeing posts moved, would think about the post topic, where the post was, and where it was moved to.

Many people, seem to post in the K1 forum perhaps because it is the 1st forum they come to. Or perhaps because they will be, are, or were on a K1 visa even though the question they are asking is not particularly relevant to the visa but instead the question is about adjusting status, what will happen at the POE, or how to get a DL after they arrive. Questions about paying taxes have nothing to do with visa type.

Other questions are relevant to more than 1 visa type and often deal with consular issues (K1 and K3 in particular have many things in common, especially at the consular stage) and so are more appropriately dealt with in the consular forum.

One can learn a lot by observing the moved posts if one thinks about it.

Yodrak


Do you think it would help if when moving a thread, the mover posted "This topic has been moved to the _____ forum" as an explicit reminder of where the question should have been posted?
Magenta
QUOTE(lal_brandow @ Apr 14 2007, 11:37 AM) *
on an unrelated note... i think i need to step away from the AOS forum laughing.gif . Now we have a

MARCH FILERS WITH RFE's thread. good lord. hey you know what? I am all for cheerleading and support. i just feel like the *emotional crutches* threads are out numbering the ACTUAL *i have a legitimate question thread*.

ah well... maybe this is the new face of VJ.


I'm going to start a "I ran out of toilet paper in March!" thread soon....
meauxna
QUOTE(Karin und Otto @ Apr 13 2007, 06:40 PM) *
Over Zealous 'Organizers.'

(Watch how they respond to your post.)


It's funny.. I've actually been looking for your positive contributions.
Turned up short so far.
rebeccajo
I still think one 'Yippee' forum for all celebrations would be good.

As for these monthly filer threads, I dunno WHAT to do about those. It's good that the folks in these threads want to stay together and support each other. But, seems to me like they are missing out on a lot. I've noticed a lot of good, valuable discussion goes on in those threads. Too bad those posts aren't going to the main forum rather than isolation to a 'timetracker' thread.

Of course I'd be guilty of that kind of posting myself within the AOS namecheck tracker thread, which is now huge. Nobody has the time to sort through that thing anymore to look for trends or the experience of others.

Maybe post pruning? The ability to pull out valuable posts and pin them somewhere? I dunno. Even if we did that, who would be 'omnipotent enough' to be the gleaner?

It's a touch problem I think. Lots of good info is getting lost in huge threads.
Dan&Tiffany
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Do you think it would help if when moving a thread, the mover posted "This topic has been moved to the _____ forum" as an explicit reminder of where the question should have been posted?



Oooh. I like that idea. good.gif
Happy Bunny
I honestly don't know why all of a sudden everyone has a problem with the 'merit' of the threads. There are plenty of threads here which would make me roll my eyes, but for the most part, I just ignore them. Taking the mickey because some participate in March/April/June threads just seems pointless....if it's being enjoyed by people here...even just a small amount of people, what's is the actual problem?

People will connect with each other in different ways. Obviously it works for some, so as long as no T&Cs are being broken, what's the big dealio?
A.J.
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 14 2007, 01:55 PM) *
I honestly don't know why all of a sudden everyone has a problem with the 'merit' of the threads.

Mommy says you're grounded.
tmma
What's the difference between a "Scout" and an "Organizer"?

Thanks smile.gif
rebeccajo
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 14 2007, 01:55 PM) *
I honestly don't know why all of a sudden everyone has a problem with the 'merit' of the threads. There are plenty of threads here which would make me roll my eyes, but for the most part, I just ignore them. Taking the mickey because some participate in March/April/June threads just seems pointless....if it's being enjoyed by people here...even just a small amount of people, what's is the actual problem?

People will connect with each other in different ways. Obviously it works for some, so as long as no T&Cs are being broken, what's the big dealio?


No discussion of 'merit' - as I see it. Nor is it a 'big deal'.

In my opinion, it would just be good for as many people as possible to be able to find a topic as easily as possible.
Magenta
QUOTE(mags @ Apr 14 2007, 11:44 AM) *
I'm going to start a "I ran out of toilet paper in March!" thread soon....

QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 14 2007, 01:55 PM) *
Taking the mickey because some participate in March/April/June threads just seems pointless....


This was not taking the piss out of anyone. I was just trying to add a light hearted joke. unsure.gif


A.J.
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Apr 14 2007, 02:32 PM) *
In my opinion, it would just be good for as many people as possible to be able to find a topic as easily as possible.

The best - by far - way to do that is through the use of a good search engine.

Prereqs?
1. People have to spell properly.
2. They have to know how to use google (not just keyword based search but the advanced features as well).
3. The archives (where some of the best info is) needs to come back online so google/yahoo spiders can index it and make it searchable as well.

Yes, I know - never gonna happen.
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(meauxna @ Apr 14 2007, 09:09 AM) *
QUOTE(Karin und Otto @ Apr 13 2007, 06:40 PM) *
Over Zealous 'Organizers.'

(Watch how they respond to your post.)


It's funny.. I've actually been looking for your positive contributions.
Turned up short so far.



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ChasUK
QUOTE(mags @ Apr 14 2007, 07:51 PM) *
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 14 2007, 01:55 PM) *
Taking the mickey because some participate in March/April/June threads just seems pointless....


This was not taking the piss out of anyone. I was just trying to add a light hearted joke. unsure.gif



JOKE?!?! A JOKE?!?!?

How dare you do such a callous thing! wink.gif

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heheh. At least you didn't take the piss out of May filers threads. wink.gif
Magenta
QUOTE(Gone @ Apr 14 2007, 03:38 PM) *
QUOTE(mags @ Apr 14 2007, 07:51 PM) *
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 14 2007, 01:55 PM) *
Taking the mickey because some participate in March/April/June threads just seems pointless....


This was not taking the piss out of anyone. I was just trying to add a light hearted joke. unsure.gif



JOKE?!?! A JOKE?!?!?

How dare you do such a callous thing! wink.gif

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heheh. At least you didn't take the piss out of May filers threads. wink.gif


Get back to that cleaning, you! laughing.gif

QUOTE(tmma @ Apr 14 2007, 02:28 PM) *
What's the difference between a "Scout" and an "Organizer"?

Thanks smile.gif


One gets to wear a cute little uniform and get badges for various tasks. tongue.gif
Happy Bunny
Mags that wasn't solely directed at you....but the talk over these month threads has been going on for some time now, and whether or not everyone understands why ppl participate, conclusions shouldn't be drawn about the people who do. And tbh, the only b!tching about them I've seen is from organizers....other than that, they don't seem to be hurtin anyone

The overall sentiment is 'making things easier' for ppl to 'find stuff' but if we're so concerned over people's comfort levels on VJ and ease of use, I don't see why everything is all of a sudden such a big deal. I see it as shootin a mosquito with a 44 while blowing a hole thru the door. Sure, the pesky moquito's gone, but now ya got a hole in the door which is a much bigger nuisance.

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Captain Ewok
As was discussed in a thread a few weeks ago I have taken a few members (I only needed 2-3) that have contributed to the site a great deal in the past and added a few extra features to help keep the site running well. The new title is just a way to recognise them. The only difference for the Scout vs. Organizer account is just that they can lock a thread if it gets too far out of control. When a thread is locked I am able to review at a later time as well. This is just a stop gap measure since I am not on the site all the time (need my sleep!) and I just needed a few members to catch any rare explosions during those times.

In the previous thread that discussed this everyone agreed that having a couple people to watch out for the rare occations where something like a "spammer" might hit the site, something else crazy happens, was good because it would prevent hours upon hours of stuff happening until I saw it and could deal with it. As I said, this way certain things can be cought earlier and I can review them later if needed. In any case I really appreciate everyones help and I think that once we can nail down a solid moving guide things will be in much better shape moving forward!
Yodrak
jenn3539,

Can you be more specific as to where you'd like to see this sentence posted?

The title of the moved thread remains in the forum where the thread was originally located, and clicking on that title takes the reader to the thread in its' new location where the Mover felt that the thread fit better. Is that not explicit enough?

Yodrak

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Apr 14 2007, 11:41 AM) *
Do you think it would help if when moving a thread, the mover posted "This topic has been moved to the _____ forum" as an explicit reminder of where the question should have been posted?
Jenn!
QUOTE(Yodrak @ Apr 14 2007, 06:34 PM) *
jenn3539,

Can you be more specific as to where you'd like to see this sentence posted?

The title of the moved thread remains in the forum where the thread was originally located, and clicking on that title takes the reader to the thread in its' new location where the Mover felt that the thread fit better. Is that not explicit enough?

Yodrak

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Apr 14 2007, 11:41 AM) *
Do you think it would help if when moving a thread, the mover posted "This topic has been moved to the _____ forum" as an explicit reminder of where the question should have been posted?



I was thinking as a post within the thread, so that the OP when reading the responses will see where the thread was moved to. Sure, to me the way that it's currently done seems obvious enough, but maybe some aren't noting for future reference where their threads were moved to. Maybe by putting it right as a post within the thread will force them to take note?
A.J.
QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Apr 14 2007, 06:38 PM) *
Maybe by putting it right as a post within the thread will force them to take note?

Dan&Tiffany
I was thinking perhaps as a note beside the title of the thread *Moved to Off Topic Forum*

Of course it's explicit for the person that wrote the post, but it would at least give those of us wading through them some idea what they were about without clicking on each of them and going to half the forums on the site. Many times the title of "PLZ HLP" isn't descriptive enough to know where it's going to be moved to.

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The Molinas
QUOTE(Dan&Tiffany @ Apr 14 2007, 06:48 PM) *
I was thinking perhaps as a note beside the title of the thread *Moved to Off Topic Forum*

Of course it's explicit for the person that wrote the post, but it would at least give those of us wading through them some idea what they were about without clicking on each of them and going to half the forums on the site. Many times the title of "PLZ HLP" isn't descriptive enough to know where it's going to be moved to.

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I agree. Would be nice to know where the "moved threads" are being moved to....
MPGGPM
I have no idea what is involved with moving a thread, and if the moderators actually have to write the word "moved", every time they do so with a thread.

But it would seem to me, that unless there was an easy way to "insert" the title of the forum that a thread is being moved to, every time they do so, then to have to write something like............

moved to the K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures General Discussion


EVERY time they move a thread.....................would be a real pain in the %#$. wink.gif

I have to agree that it seems pretty easy enough as it is, because #1) The thread does not get deleted from the original forum, and is still there. #2) All the person has to do is.......'click"......and then look UP....even when it is moved....and the title is plastered right there for them to see.

Just seems to me as though it's more than easy enough as it is, and would be extremely aggravating on the moderators part to have to write the "name" of the forum it was moved to, every time.

I also think, it would just take for it to happen one time , or hopefully by two (when a thread is moved)......for the member who has had such a thing happen to them to "catch on", and from then on they'd understand the process of what happens to a thread once it's moved, and so to have to continually do all the other stuff to make it even easier.................would be unecessary .
ChasUK
Exactly what I thought. What's the problem. If the topic says moved, click on the topic title and viola, as if by magic you're in the thread where it was moved to.
Amazing stuff this internet. wink.gif

Yodrak
Dan&Tiffany,

Such titles are my cue to move on to other posts where the posters have at least put a little thought into their post.

Yodrak

QUOTE(Dan&Tiffany @ Apr 14 2007, 06:48 PM) *
.... Many times the title of "PLZ HLP" isn't descriptive enough to know where it's going to be moved to.
Yodrak
Dan&Tiffany,

Can't modify anything about a post, can only move it with a choice to mark it as moved or move it without leaving a trace behind.

Yodrak

QUOTE(Dan&Tiffany @ Apr 14 2007, 06:48 PM) *
I was thinking perhaps as a note beside the title of the thread *Moved to Off Topic Forum*

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Captain Ewok
WHen a topic is moved it is best to always leave the break crumb behind (use that feature).
Dan&Tiffany
QUOTE(Captain Ewok @ Apr 16 2007, 12:53 PM) *
WHen a topic is moved it is best to always leave the break crumb behind (use that feature).


??? Sorry lost me there. You mean where it shows that it WAS there, but it's not there anymore? (note-to-self: Really probably need to start getting more sleep. Reading comprehension declining)
*Marilyn*
when you move a thread, there is an option to keep the thread title in the forum it was moved from.. the thread title will still show in the forum it originated from with a little arrow by it showing that it was moved to another forum....
Jenn!
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Apr 17 2007, 09:31 AM) *
when you move a thread, there is an option to keep the thread title in the forum it was moved from.. the thread title will still show in the forum it originated from with a little arrow by it showing that it was moved to another forum....



I think all the movers are doing this properly.

I thought the issue was that people *still* can't find their way to their thread even with the link left behind. Honestly, I don't understand what the the issue is anymore.
illumine
QUOTE(Gupt @ Apr 14 2007, 11:52 AM) *
1. People have to spell properly.
2. They have to know how to use google (not just keyword based search but the advanced features as well).
3. The archives (where some of the best info is) needs to come back online so google/yahoo spiders can index it and make it searchable as well.

Yes, I know - never gonna happen.



no0pb.gif Google/search are foreign terms, dontcha know?


Nice to see I've been gone 2 weeks & the same issue is still being discussed (& STILL not answered) to death!
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