When applying for citizenship N-400, do you have to do a written test. About american history and stuff? Or do you just fill in form and go to interview etc.

The test you at the interview. About 10 questions.

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The verbal test is given at the interview. So probably a good time to start studying...

What I did is I memorized all the civic questions and they only asked me about 4 or 5 of them. Then they ask you to write a very simple phrase like "I live at home with my dog" on a piece of paper and that's it.

Here's the catch though, 2007 will be the last year these simple tests can be taken. As of 2008 the test will be more complicated than what it is because right now it's a complete joke. I believe 3 or 4 cities are test pilots of the new testing, Denver being one of them, where applicants can choose which test they want to take, old or new.

I've seen a preview of the new test. It doesn't appear any harder or easier than the old one, but the questions are a bit different. They're supposed to be more meaningful and relevant, and I guess that's arguably true. You can see it for yourself at www.uscis.gov/natzpilot. Just as in the old test, there's a long list of potential questions, and each applicant will only be asked to answer a handful of the questions.

When I was about to to do my interview in Denver, I thought that maybe I'd have the choice or something. Guess the volunteer choice wasn't inplemented yet and they only had the basic old version. Heard in the spring is when they'll do the sample new tests. Then next year, determine which questions to keep and which ones to get rid of.

I thought the new test was worded differently and definatly had more 136 I think questions. More explanation type answers rather then the yes, no, single answers seen in the old test. I still haven't heard anyone who has taken the new test yet...

I can pretty say many Americans couldn't even answer those questions.

When I went through my process last year, I applied then gave my test oraly on the day of the interveiw and I prepared for it by using the USCIS test guide on their website

136 questions????!!!

To give up loyalty to other countries (I give up loyalty to my [old][first][other] country.)

Not really:

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

Um...this one can.

All my friends and my wife all except one person knew most of the answers. My friends laugh at the test and said they'd fail it misserably and that I will know more about their country then they do. Of course for me all that studying, I should probably forget it all within a few months anyways...

We all had to learn that in school; I'd be pretty shocked if any of my American friends didn't know most of the answers to those questions.

I learned Canadian history in school myself, I couldn't tell you the first thing about it and if given as test on Canadian history I'd fail misserably. Why? Because lots of stuff we learn in school we never apply or use, so we tend to forget. Same thing here. Sure all my friends tell me they probably learned it, but have forgotten. Same with me and my homeland. I couldn't even tell you who their leader is...

I suppose some people just have better memories. The stuff on the US citizenship test is what I would consider common knowledge and I can't think of a single American that I know who would fail it.

I was pretty much raised in the US but didn't become a citizen until a few years ago. I remember that I took the sample civics questions to work and very few people knew, not all, not most, but few of the answers. It could be negligence, it could be forgetfulness, it could be lack of interest, who knows.

Christ, if someone can't pass that test they ought to take away their right to vote.

You would *not* believe how many teachers in my school system FAILED this test. One of our HS students did a project on this particular area...it was unbelievable! Psst....not me though...I passed 'cos my adorable husband and I go over this stuff a lot from time to time...studying up for when he's eligible.

That's pretty pathetic. I think there has been a general 'dumbing down' in western countries in the last couple of decades. My mom kept some of her books from high school and her math books blew me away. I couldn't believe how complex some of the problems were, and I made straight As in math in high school so it's not like I'm a math idiot! I thought high school was too easy and it has probably gotten worse since I was there. We're only cheating ourselves if we make things too easy for our kids.

I will be applying for citizenship this September, and I'm already scared sh - - less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I HATE TESTS!!!!!!!!!!!! Always have, always will.

I will be VERY glad when this whole process is over and done with and I can say "The End" too!!!!!!!!!