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Dean/Gra

Apr 16 2007, 09:02 AM

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 08:36 AM)

QUOTE(Birdysboy @ Apr 16 2007, 09:33 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 12:58 AM)

Now, I have to find out how to get a divorce from her and I guess I will never be able to marry another Filipina, as I was married in the Philippines. Can you believe this? Now we see why the Manila embassy is so strict. I am sure this is just one example. Thanks for listening.
Glenn&Rosemarie aka Glenn&Lezbo

If you were de-frauded, that is grounds for annulment. With an annulment, it is as if you were never married. Were you married in a Catholic Church? Even if you were in civil ceremony, you can still file for annulment if you want to meet another Filipina.

We were married in the Catholic church there in the Philippines. Surely with my story, I can get an annulment. Do you agree? I just need to begin the process. Thanks

Glenn, Thanks for the courage to write these posts. It is never easy to admit you have been duped, as all of us know. I just feel like you are a really good guy and you have been taken advantage of by this woman and her whole family. Unfortunately there are whole families like that, not only in the Philippines but in the US also. Just as Birdysboy stated there are lots of scammers on the internet, but there are also some nice ladies on there, it is just difficult to determine which is which sometimes.

I agree with the others, cancel the AOS and check with your attorney about a divorce or annulment. See what the laws are in Florida, can she get any of your assests if you divorce her or get an annulment? It might be wise to check with the attorney about the AOS prior to doing anything. Just protect yourself as much as possible.

I would contact the man in Arizona and let him know what is going on. After all, don't you wish someone had told you what is going on before this whole thing blew up in your face? It is very possible that he will not believe you, but you need to make the call anyway.

I know it will be sometime before you open your heart to another woman because this will take some time to get over, but when you do please look for the red flags that come up and check them out. My sweetie has never asked for money, nor do most of the sincere filipinas. After all they had to have money before you came along. There are exceptions, but for the most part they will not ask for money.

As for myself, there is no doubt in my mind that she is a gift of God to me, and me to her. I have never been so sure about anything in my life as I'm sure of my love for her and my devotion to her. She is indeed the love of my life, the most wonderful person I have ever met and I want to spend the rest of my life with her.

Glenn & Rosemarie

Apr 16 2007, 09:08 AM

QUOTE(PatientlyWaiting @ Apr 16 2007, 09:52 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 09:36 PM)

We were married in the Catholic church there in the Philippines. Surely with my story, I can get an annulment. Do you agree? I just need to begin the process. Thanks

Glenn, if it is a marriage between a US citizen and a Filipino, you may file for divorce in the US and it will be recognized in the Philippines (the civil aspect of the marriage, that is). No need to file for annulment here. However, you cannot have a Catholic wedding anywhere in the world without filing an annulment with the Catholic Church first (separation of church and state). For purposes of visa, a US divorce will suffice to petition another Filipina fiance or wife.

I will find the law that supports the above, I believe that it is in our Family Code. You may initiate divorce proceedings in the US now.

If you are able to get the name of the cousin/lover who is about to be interviewed at Manila Embassy, report her right away so that her visa will be denied. But make sure you include evidence. We don't want Filipina scammers to ruin the reputation of the rest of us here. No wonder Manila Embassy is so tough.

I am glad that you still want a Filipina wife after what she's done to you.

Thank you PW. I must say that you are an absolute Godsend to this posting. Your knowledge, compassion and consideration has helped 100's of people. Doug is a very lucky man and I know God will place a special blessing on your lives together.

Pinay Wife

Apr 16 2007, 09:11 AM

Here it is Glenn.

http://www.chanrobles.com/executiveorderno209.htm

Art. 26. x x x

Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law. (As amended by Executive Order 227)

I'm having server problems. I will update the list when the server is better.

It is 10:20 in Manila. Time to sleep zzzzzzzz

Birdysboy

Apr 16 2007, 09:13 AM

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 09:36 AM)

QUOTE(Birdysboy @ Apr 16 2007, 09:33 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 12:58 AM)

Now, I have to find out how to get a divorce from her and I guess I will never be able to marry another Filipina, as I was married in the Philippines. Can you believe this? Now we see why the Manila embassy is so strict. I am sure this is just one example. Thanks for listening.
Glenn&Rosemarie aka Glenn&Lezbo

If you were de-frauded, that is grounds for annulment. With an annulment, it is as if you were never married. Were you married in a Catholic Church? Even if you were in civil ceremony, you can still file for annulment if you want to meet another Filipina.

We were married in the Catholic church there in the Philippines. Surely with my story, I can get an annulment. Do you agree? I just need to begin the process. Thanks

Remember that an annulment is a legal proceeding, just like a divorce. The Catholic Church has law. There are specific rules that have to be met. If you are active in your local parish the cost would be signifigantly less if the annulment is accomplished through the Diocese, in our Diocese $500 verses $5000. Contact your local parish for more info on that.

And PW is sakto ka also. A Divorce is legally binding also. The annulment if you want to marry another Catholic Filipina.

Glenn & Rosemarie

Apr 16 2007, 09:16 AM

QUOTE(PatientlyWaiting @ Apr 16 2007, 10:11 AM)

Here it is Glenn.

http://www.chanrobles.com/executiveorderno209.htm

Art. 26. x x x

Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law. (As amended by Executive Order 227)

I'm having server problems. I will update the list when the server is better.

It is 10:20 in Manila. Time to sleep zzzzzzzz

I assume that this means I can get a divorce in the USA and be able to marry a Filipina again in the future if it works out that way? As for my wife marrying again, I don't think lesbian marriages are allowed in the Phils?

vsmtghdy

Apr 16 2007, 09:34 AM

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 08:33 AM)

Thanks George, I won't say it took courage to post this and I didn't post it out of any malice. I posted this to make people be more careful when selecting a person to spend their life with. I am a strong willed and tough businessman, but I was taught growing up to follow my heart. It seems as though that has some good and some bad points about it. I just received an email from NVC stating that I can withdraw my petition for her AOS and she will be deported. That is what I will do today. I also was able to speak with her cousin in Manila that verified the facts that she is a lesbian, as well as her "cousin" is not her cousin, but her lover. I will get this marriage annulled or divorce, as I intend to move on with my life. This isn't about love anymore, it's about not letting a "scammer" get away with a conspiracy to commit fraud. In my past, I have made over 10 trips to the Philippines (5 were on business there) and I always thought when my life slowed down I wanted to marry a Filipina. I still do and I will, as didn't marry a wife this time, I married a woman that is an insult to her country and to the human race.
Glenn

You should file to withdraw your petition, so she could be blacklisted. And also try to find the other guy so he could be warned. Although it is really unfortunate that this happen to you, I am glad to hear that you still would want to marry a Filipina. You just have to be careful the next time.

You can file a divorce there in the US. Although you can file also an annulment here (Philippines) which could take months and more money, maybe I would advise you not to get an annulment here. Just a suggestion. If your wife will be deported and you can divorce her there, then you are free to marry again, although not here in the Philippines. If she intends to do another scam, then she cannot and will not be able to get married here in the Philippines since her status with the NSO and in the Church will still be married. Although divorce is accepted, she cannot marry here again, unless she files for an annulment herself. Let her file the annulment and let her spend money for that. You need not spend more for her benefit. Just my opinion. If she would do another scam, she will have to be on a K-1, but will have more problems because her status at NSO will remain married.

But whatever you decide, think of protecting yourself and your assets so she (or her family) will not be able to get anything from you again.

rich_kathy

Apr 16 2007, 09:35 AM

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 08:16 AM)

QUOTE(PatientlyWaiting @ Apr 16 2007, 10:11 AM)

Here it is Glenn.

http://www.chanrobles.com/executiveorderno209.htm

Art. 26. x x x

Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law. (As amended by Executive Order 227)

I'm having server problems. I will update the list when the server is better.

It is 10:20 in Manila. Time to sleep zzzzzzzz

I assume that this means I can get a divorce in the USA and be able to marry a Filipina again in the future if it works out that way? As for my wife marrying again, I don't think lesbian marriages are allowed in the Phils?

Same gender marriage is not allowed here in the Philippines, this maybe the reason why your wife and her partner wanted to get to the US... to live together freely and legally.

Glenn & Rosemarie

Apr 16 2007, 09:50 AM

QUOTE(vsmtghdy @ Apr 16 2007, 10:34 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 08:33 AM)

Thanks George, I won't say it took courage to post this and I didn't post it out of any malice. I posted this to make people be more careful when selecting a person to spend their life with. I am a strong willed and tough businessman, but I was taught growing up to follow my heart. It seems as though that has some good and some bad points about it. I just received an email from NVC stating that I can withdraw my petition for her AOS and she will be deported. That is what I will do today. I also was able to speak with her cousin in Manila that verified the facts that she is a lesbian, as well as her "cousin" is not her cousin, but her lover. I will get this marriage annulled or divorce, as I intend to move on with my life. This isn't about love anymore, it's about not letting a "scammer" get away with a conspiracy to commit fraud. In my past, I have made over 10 trips to the Philippines (5 were on business there) and I always thought when my life slowed down I wanted to marry a Filipina. I still do and I will, as didn't marry a wife this time, I married a woman that is an insult to her country and to the human race.
Glenn

You should file to withdraw your petition, so she could be blacklisted. And also try to find the other guy so he could be warned. Although it is really unfortunate that this happen to you, I am glad to hear that you still would want to marry a Filipina. You just have to be careful the next time.

You can file a divorce there in the US. Although you can file also an annulment here (Philippines) which could take months and more money, maybe I would advise you not to get an annulment here. Just a suggestion. If your wife will be deported and you can divorce her there, then you are free to marry again, although not here in the Philippines. If she intends to do another scam, then she cannot and will not be able to get married here in the Philippines since her status with the NSO and in the Church will still be married. Although divorce is accepted, she cannot marry here again, unless she files for an annulment herself. Let her file the annulment and let her spend money for that. You need not spend more for her benefit. Just my opinion. If she would do another scam, she will have to be on a K-1, but will have more problems because her status at NSO will remain married.

But whatever you decide, think of protecting yourself and your assets so she (or her family) will not be able to get anything from you again.

Are you saying that if I get a divorce from her that I will not be able to petition another filipina and marry her in the USA?

vic&el4ever

Apr 16 2007, 10:08 AM

El will be leaving on Friday for her trip to the US, our life is about to start all over again. Prey for us!!! HEHEHE

Ken_Maria

Apr 16 2007, 10:35 AM

Glenn, I have said it before and if you have not already done so, you need to report her and her carpet munching lover to the ICE. The more you can tel the hotline, the better. I lived in the PI for 5 years prior to the internet and cell phone boom and it was not like it is now. I work there about 6 months out of the year and see the same thing as Beam talked about, it is just sad. However, do not let a few bad apples sum up the filipino people. Ken & Maria

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 15 2007, 06:58 PM)

Okay, this is for sure off topic here. but, Made my journey through this room, so I decide I would share what facts my investigative work has brought forth into evidence this week. As most of you know, I was married in the Philippines on December 29, 2005, well my wife arrived here in the USA on February 7, 2007. She had daily problems with homesickness and seemed to never be happy regardless. She left for a bike ride on the moring of April 6 and has never returned since. At first I was worried and heart broken, then I decided to do some investigating last week. Here is a copy of the letter that I sent to someone that I have been talking to by PM on a regular basis. He asked for an update, so here it is:

You won't believe this. I was contacted by a lifelong friend of my wife's that said she felt compelled to tell me what was going on. I seems that my wife is a lesbian. It is a well known fact in the community that she grew up in that she is. The cousin she refers to, is not her cousin, but her lover. Her cousin aka lover is awaiting her interview now, as she is married to a man in Arizona. I whole-heartedly believe this was a 100% scam for the two of them to be together in the USA. I know from what my wife said that her cousin/lover had no intentions of staying with her husband once she received greencard. Little did I know that the same was being done to me. I am almost 100% positive that my wife is in the USA still. Through online research, I found her picture posted on a website looking for other females in my city. The date it was posted was two days after she left, she also said she is single on this site. I found a couple pictures of naked women in her computer as well. This whole thing I believe was pre-meditated by her. I also know for fact that the cousin/lover has been living with her for over 3 years. I also know that my wifes family knows she is lesbian 100%. I never even thought she could be this way, what a con-artist. In fact, the whole family participated in this scam from the Mother to sisters. Now, I am faced with the loss of many thousands of dollars on her, her family, etc. I spent a lot of hard earned money on these people so they could have air-conditioning, new furniture, appliances, electronics, 2 new Honda motorcycles and not to mention home repairs and spending money. It makes me feel like fool, but it also pisses me off. I put my heart on the line and 19 months of my life flying back and forth during the waiting. She even clipped me for a top notch wedding for 500 people. I don't want vengeance, but I don't want her to be allowed to remain in the USA. I had not applied for her AOS and I am glad of that. I sure as hell would like to see her deported! I am even contemplating calling the man in Arizona and telling him these facts. Now, I have to find out how to get a divorce from her and I guess I will never be able to marry another Filipina, as I was married in the Philippines. Can you believe this? Now we see why the Manila embassy is so strict. I am sure this is just one example. Thanks for listening.
Glenn&Rosemarie aka Glenn&Lezbo

I thought a U.S. Divorce was recognized in the PI? PW, Sheriff & Deputy Uling... a littel help... Ken

QUOTE(Birdysboy @ Apr 16 2007, 03:33 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 12:58 AM)

Now, I have to find out how to get a divorce from her and I guess I will never be able to marry another Filipina, as I was married in the Philippines. Can you believe this? Now we see why the Manila embassy is so strict. I am sure this is just one example. Thanks for listening.
Glenn&Rosemarie aka Glenn&Lezbo

If you were de-frauded, that is grounds for annulment. With an annulment, it is as if you were never married. Were you married in a Catholic Church? Even if you were in civil ceremony, you can still file for annulment if you want to meet another Filipina.

Glenn & Rosemarie

Apr 16 2007, 10:40 AM

QUOTE(Ken_Maria @ Apr 16 2007, 11:35 AM)

Glenn, I have said it before and if you have not already done so, you need to report her and her carpet munching lover to the ICE. The more you can tel the hotline, the better. I lived in the PI for 5 years prior to the internet and cell phone boom and it was not like it is now. I work there about 6 months out of the year and see the same thing as Beam talked about, it is just sad. However, do not let a few bad apples sum up the filipino people. Ken & Maria

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 15 2007, 06:58 PM)

Okay, this is for sure off topic here. but, Made my journey through this room, so I decide I would share what facts my investigative work has brought forth into evidence this week. As most of you know, I was married in the Philippines on December 29, 2005, well my wife arrived here in the USA on February 7, 2007. She had daily problems with homesickness and seemed to never be happy regardless. She left for a bike ride on the moring of April 6 and has never returned since. At first I was worried and heart broken, then I decided to do some investigating last week. Here is a copy of the letter that I sent to someone that I have been talking to by PM on a regular basis. He asked for an update, so here it is:

You won't believe this. I was contacted by a lifelong friend of my wife's that said she felt compelled to tell me what was going on. I seems that my wife is a lesbian. It is a well known fact in the community that she grew up in that she is. The cousin she refers to, is not her cousin, but her lover. Her cousin aka lover is awaiting her interview now, as she is married to a man in Arizona. I whole-heartedly believe this was a 100% scam for the two of them to be together in the USA. I know from what my wife said that her cousin/lover had no intentions of staying with her husband once she received greencard. Little did I know that the same was being done to me. I am almost 100% positive that my wife is in the USA still. Through online research, I found her picture posted on a website looking for other females in my city. The date it was posted was two days after she left, she also said she is single on this site. I found a couple pictures of naked women in her computer as well. This whole thing I believe was pre-meditated by her. I also know for fact that the cousin/lover has been living with her for over 3 years. I also know that my wifes family knows she is lesbian 100%. I never even thought she could be this way, what a con-artist. In fact, the whole family participated in this scam from the Mother to sisters. Now, I am faced with the loss of many thousands of dollars on her, her family, etc. I spent a lot of hard earned money on these people so they could have air-conditioning, new furniture, appliances, electronics, 2 new Honda motorcycles and not to mention home repairs and spending money. It makes me feel like fool, but it also pisses me off. I put my heart on the line and 19 months of my life flying back and forth during the waiting. She even clipped me for a top notch wedding for 500 people. I don't want vengeance, but I don't want her to be allowed to remain in the USA. I had not applied for her AOS and I am glad of that. I sure as hell would like to see her deported! I am even contemplating calling the man in Arizona and telling him these facts. Now, I have to find out how to get a divorce from her and I guess I will never be able to marry another Filipina, as I was married in the Philippines. Can you believe this? Now we see why the Manila embassy is so strict. I am sure this is just one example. Thanks for listening.
Glenn&Rosemarie aka Glenn&Lezbo

I thought a U.S. Divorce was recognized in the PI? PW, Sheriff & Deputy Uling... a littel help... Ken

QUOTE(Birdysboy @ Apr 16 2007, 03:33 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 12:58 AM)

Now, I have to find out how to get a divorce from her and I guess I will never be able to marry another Filipina, as I was married in the Philippines. Can you believe this? Now we see why the Manila embassy is so strict. I am sure this is just one example. Thanks for listening.
Glenn&Rosemarie aka Glenn&Lezbo

If you were de-frauded, that is grounds for annulment. With an annulment, it is as if you were never married. Were you married in a Catholic Church? Even if you were in civil ceremony, you can still file for annulment if you want to meet another Filipina.

Ken, I reported her to ICE last week under your advisment.

beameup

Apr 16 2007, 11:06 AM

QUOTE(Ken_Maria @ Apr 16 2007, 11:35 PM)

Glenn, I have said it before and if you have not already done so, you need to report her and her carpet munching lover to the ICE. The more you can tel the hotline, the better. I lived in the PI for 5 years prior to the internet and cell phone boom and it was not like it is now. I work there about 6 months out of the year and see the same thing as Beam talked about, it is just sad. However, do not let a few bad apples sum up the filipino people.
Ken & Maria

Yes, cell phone texting and the internet surely have changed the world!
There are certainly a lot of things (scams) to beware of when living in the highly populated areas of the Philippines - "survival of the fittest".

JelloShotGirl

Apr 16 2007, 11:42 AM

Glen good luck with situation, I feel for you. I will be praying for you. I do not wish bad on anyone but you know about Karma. This will come back to haunt her , what she did to you, one day.

joemaria

Apr 16 2007, 12:14 PM

Glen, we sympathized for you. You are a victim and feel sorry for that. All we can say, you've got our prayers. You can file divorce there for another marriage but for this time be more careful and cautious. We learned from our past experiences and it makes us stronger. Just other said here, sheman (dont know if i will use a she or a he,so better this way got what i mean?!) it will be hard for her to marry unless she filed annulment here to consider your marriage null and void. And if she plans to get there again using K1 visa, again its difficult for sheman needs CENOMAR, it will appear sheman is married to you. The last laugh still yours...and your right no "same sex" marriage here.

Sheriff Uling

Apr 16 2007, 02:01 PM

Glenn:

Thanks for sharing!

Your situation is a very alarming and frightening on many levels and by far an extreme case. Our fellow Phil-Am members have given you some valuable advise on how to proceed. Fate has unfortunately lead you down this path for a specific purpose. Like many of us having had our own struggles in life can attest that you will find yourself in a better place once the dust settles. For now, do what has to be done, continue to be that positive spirit, and better things shall come your way.

You know that I can NOT close without making light of your situation. That would just not be civilized of me. Next time I advise that you do NOT purchase any more bicycles and develop an uten test. LOL!!!

Cheers!!!

Sheriff Uling

island_princess

Apr 16 2007, 08:05 PM

QUOTE

You can file a divorce there in the US. Although you can file also an annulment here (Philippines) which could take months and more money, maybe I would advise you not to get an annulment here. Just a suggestion. If your wife will be deported and you can divorce her there, then you are free to marry again, although not here in the Philippines. If she intends to do another scam, then she cannot and will not be able to get married here in the Philippines since her status with the NSO and in the Church will still be married. Although divorce is accepted, she cannot marry here again, unless she files for an annulment herself.

Hi Glen. SOrry to hear about your story. Anyway, I made a little research for you. 'hope this helps.

A divorce obtained by the alien spouse.

A divorce obtained abroad by an alien may be recognized in our jurisdiction, provided such decree is valid according to the national law of the foreigner. However, the divorce decree and the governing personal law of the alien spouse who obtained the divorce must be proven. Our courts do not take judicial notice of foreign laws and judgment; hence, like any other facts, both the divorce decree and the national law of the alien must be alleged and proven according to our law on evidence.

Philippine law does not provide for absolute divorce; hence, our courts cannot grant it.A marriage between two Filipinos cannot be dissolved even by a divorce obtained abroad, because of Articles 15 and 17 of the Civil Code.

In mixed marriages involving a Filipino and a foreigner, Article 26 of the Family Code allows the former to contract a subsequent marriage in case the divorce is “validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry.” A divorce obtained abroad by a couple, who are both aliens, may be recognized in the Philippines, provided it is consistent with their respective national laws.

However such divorce decree obtained by the alien spouse should be presented as a fact. It is well-settled in our jurisdiction that our courts cannot take judicial notice of foreign laws. Like any other facts, they must be alleged and proved.

A comparison between marriage and divorce, as far as pleading and proof are concerned, can be made. Van Dorn v. Romillo Jr. decrees that “aliens may obtain divorces abroad, which may be recognized in the Philippines, provided they are valid according to their national law.”

Therefore, before a foreign divorce decree can be recognized by our courts, the party pleading it must prove the divorce as a fact and demonstrate its conformity to the foreign law allowing it. Presentation solely of the divorce decree is insufficient.

Taken from this site.

genlramos

Apr 16 2007, 10:28 PM

Visa in hand...!!! April 11 interview, Visa delivered -- Pasay City/April 17
Perfect timing...
Good Luck everyone!!!!!! And thanks to all of the past and present contributors here.
This would have been a very bleak and lonely experience without VisaJourney...

KimTung

Apr 16 2007, 11:50 PM

It looks like everyone's getting their visa and I'm only the one left here. I feel so depress.

:crying:WAH!!WAH!!

vsmtghdy

Apr 16 2007, 11:59 PM

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 09:50 AM)

Are you saying that if I get a divorce from her that I will not be able to petition another filipina and marry her in the USA?

Glenn,

I'm sorry, I didn't made myself clear on that. If you get divorce there (US), you are free and can petition again and get married. If ever you find the "RIGHT PERSON", it would be advisable to marry her in the US and only file for a K-1, or if you would like to get married here in the Philippines, it would not be a church wedding.

The problem will be for your wife (ex-wife to be)-> Since she will not be able to get married again. If she wants to get married, in case she scam another man to petition and marry her -> her status will remain MARRIED in the Philippines. That will show on her CENOMAR, and unless she files for an Annulment here in the Philippines, she cannot marry again. So, don't help her by filing annulment in the Philippines, let her suffer. If she want to get married again, let her file and spend for that. So the last laugh will still be yours! That will be her karma!

A friend of mine was married here (Philippines) but got divorced by his wife (Norway) due to infedelity. The wife is happily married now in Norway. My friend cannot marry again (he's here-PHilippines), unless he files for an annulment and we know that takes months and money and he can't afford it for now. So, that's his karma, he can't get married and can't have a "real" relationship with anyone here, because most girls of course would want to get married and would not want to get involved with a married man.

QUOTE(genlramos @ Apr 16 2007, 10:28 PM)

Visa in hand...!!! April 11 interview, Visa delivered -- Pasay City/April 17
Perfect timing...
Good Luck everyone!!!!!! And thanks to all of the past and present contributors here.
This would have been a very bleak and lonely experience without VisaJourney...

genlramos--->

dims1

Apr 17 2007, 01:40 AM

Kim,
I also am wthout my wife due to AR during her interview March 19.

I didn't see why you are on AR....

For us, it was my lack of income even though I had plenty in property assets.
The CO told my wife "there is no way your husband can support you on what he earns." (Not true!) And that she needed a joint sponsor.

This has been killer for us as I had no one to be the joint-sponsor. We were going crazy with all hope fading.

But Glory to God a good friend's wife stepped up and signed the papers!
Finally I will send in the required papers tomorrow. Hopefully get our visa within a month. We are overjoyed and thankful.

Anyway Kim this just shows you and us that it's God's speed....not ours... and He has a devine plan for us.... in His time frame.

Good luck and God bless!!
Mike

QUOTE(KimTung @ Apr 16 2007, 09:50 PM)

It looks like everyone's getting their visa and I'm only the one left here. I feel so depress.

:crying:WAH!!WAH!!

KimTung

Apr 17 2007, 01:55 AM

Hello Mike,

It's great news that you found a joint sponsor for your wife.

Well on my case we really don't know what's going on. My husband called the embassy last week and was told that they are still verifying the papers we sent to NVC and they won't tell what doc they are checking on.

Very well said, we just wait for God's time and may He bless us with more patience and strenght in handling this.

louiejane2903

Apr 17 2007, 02:41 AM

hi everyone!

count me in! i'm on AR jail too because of their routine check at NSO. We did call USEM twice and the recent update was..they already file a request at NSO on very same day i was placed on AR.

Goodluck to everyone and God Bless...

\m/

DaveandFleur

Apr 17 2007, 04:46 AM

hello my VJ pals. I was present at my baby's interview as you know we passed, but we had a delay with st lukes in delivering medical results, it is been only 4 working days since the interview and we should have VISA in had this week. i will update you all on when we receive the visa, we are in Quezon City near SM fairview mall at smile city homes.

More later

rea

Apr 17 2007, 07:44 AM

hello everyone! can i join in?

though we are still in the early stage of our journey... this thread seems so fun and sympathizing to the members...

i've read the posts of glen, and i feel so sorry for what had happened and i also feel so bad of the person who did this to him...why? because she(or should i call her "he") really damaged in some way or another the PHILIPPINES as a whole..as i read along this thread i stumble a post by someone(sorry i cant remember for now as i am still new here

) on not generalizing FILIPINAs (thank you for doing that) and glad that glen is not closing his doors..thank you glen for sharing this post to VJ..i want to share a quote to you when i encounter bad people or someone treats me bad or unfairly, i just think of this quote and little by little the bad feelings inside me will just go away, here it is "no good deeds goes unrewarded and no bad deeds goes unpunished"..i hope this helps..

congratulations to all who got their visa already

i have a question by the way, i already got my cenomar and bc last january2007, does it expires because if you will notice in our timeline, we have not received our NOA2 yet (hoping it will come real soon)...

louiejane2903

Apr 17 2007, 07:58 AM

hi rea! BC and Cenomar doesn't have expiration...but still CENOMAR needs to be recent prior to ur interview.

anyways, welcome to VJ and to Manila Embassy interview thread.

QUOTE(rea @ Apr 17 2007, 08:44 PM)

i have a question by the way, i already got my cenomar and bc last january2007, does it expires because if you will notice in our timeline, we have not received our NOA2 yet (hoping it will come real soon)...

Pinay Wife

Apr 17 2007, 08:09 AM

Finally, the updated list. If I missed anything, please let me know. I've been having problems with my VJ access, my mouse, the server, the computer hanging, etc. so if you notice that I'm not posting much, blame the computer

Good luck San Francisco! Kayz, we're waiting for your good news!

Legend:
OK - Visa approved
AR - Admin Review/Add'l Docs Required
ME - Military Expedite
AO - Age-Out (Derivative approaching age 21)

Name..................NOA2....MNL REC'D..PACKET...INTERVIEW..MNL CASE#..STATUS..DELIVERED/#OF DAYS/PLACE DLVRD
K1 LIST
01..gobdogman.......09-07-06..10-20-06..xx-xx-xx..02-26-07..2006-789xxx..AR..Apr 15/48 days/Dumaguete

02..patrick808......10-18-06..10-30-06..01-24-07..03-08-07..2006-800xxx..OK..Date and place delivered please?
03..Joone745........10-20-06..11-01-06..xx-xx-xx..03-09-07..2006-800xxx..OK..Mar 16/07 days/Bacolod
04..Wes.............11-02-06..11-17-06..12-29-06..03-20-07..2006-818xxx..AR..Pending result of add'l tests
05..49bstreet.......09-29-06..11-21-06..01-23-07..03-21-07..2006-820xxx..OK..Apr 12/22 days/Tuguegarao
06..maylet29........10-27-06..11-21-06..xx-xx-xx..03-22-07..2006-820xxx..OK..Mar 27/05 days/Quezon City
07..kismet..........11-02-06..11-20-06..01-26-07..03-22-07..2006-820xxx..OK..Mar 28/06 days/Cainta
08..iya.............11-02-06..11-20-06..02-02-07..03-23-07..2006-820xxx..OK..Mar 29/06 days/Quezon City
09..boch............11-08-06..11-29-06..01-05-07..03-23-07..2006-820xxx..OK..??
10..B&N.............11-03-06..11-29-06..01-24-07..03-26-07..2006-824xxx..OK..Apr 02/07 days/Makati
11..Alanlvsjudy.....11-06-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..03-27-07..2006-824xxx..OK..Apr 02/06 days/Pasay
12..EllaJosh........11-14-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..03-23-07..2006-834xxx..OK..??
13..jackieadam......11-20-06..12-28-06..xx-xx-xx..03-23-07..2006-xxxxxx..OK..Mar 28/05 days/Makati

14..DeaniWait.......11-28-06..12-19-06..02-27-07..04-04-07..2006-842xxx..OK..Apr 11/07 days/Picked up
15..wthornton.......11-28-06..12-19-06..02-26-07..04-04-07..2006-842xxx..??
16..DocMay..........11-15-06..12-12-06..02-26-07..04-10-07..2006-845xxx..AR
17..George&Jenny....11-27-06..12-12-06..xx-xx-xx..04-10-07..2006-845xxx..OK..Apr 13/03 days/??
18..genlramos.......11-17-06..12-19-06..xx-xx-xx..04-11-07..2006-845xxx..OK..Apr 17/06 days/Pasay City
19..DaveandFleur....10-17-06..12-19-06..02-28-07..04-11-07..2006-845xxx..OK
20..PatientlyWait...12-04-06..12-27-06..02-26-07..04-13-07..2006-852xxx..OK
21..Kayz............12-14-06..12-27-06..02-26-07..04-16-07..2006-854xxx
22..sanfrancisco....xx-xx-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..04-17-07..2006-8xxxxx
23..supra...........12-07-06..01-08-07..03-03-07..04-18-07..2006-860xxx
24..elmasguapo......12-15-06..01-08-07..xx-xx-xx..04-24-07..2006-xxxxxx
25..Dean/Gra........12-26-06..01-04-07..02-27-06..04-23-07..2007-503xxx
26..Mike Marivic....01-04-07..01-20-07..02-26-07..04-24-07..2007-508xxx
27..CocoPuff........12-29-06..01-16.07..03-03-07..04-25-07..2007-5xxxxx
28..MarieandBryan...01-10-07..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..04-27-07..2007-52xxxx

29..Skeeter211......01-17-07..02-27-07..04-02-07..05-03-07..2007-52xxxx
30..chadandlira.....01-25-07..xx-xx-xx..04-02-07..05-09-07..2007-536xxx
31..Honeysweet......02-01-07..02-20-07..xx-xx-xx..05-10-07..2007-540xxx
32..imaskin.........02-07-07..xx-xx-xx..03-30-07..05-24-07..2007-xxxxxx
33..gracy_byron.....02-08-07..02-28-07..xx-xx-xx..05-18-07..2007-xxxxxx
34..chadmides.......02-12-07..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..05-10-07..2007-547xxx
35..joemaria........02-12-07..02-28-07..xx-xx-xx..05-22-07..2007-55xxx

36..orion44.........02-22-07..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2007-xxxxxx
37..David-MaeForev..02-27-07..03-14-07..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2007-564xxx
38..JeffK...........03-08-07..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2007-573xxx
39..trakon2002......04-05-07..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2007-xxxxxx

K3 LIST
01..AnneiyandJacky..11-28-06….xx-xx-xx..02-27-07..04-17-07..2006-685xxx
02..dj2004..........11-16-06..12-12-06..02-27-07..04-03-07..2006-839xxx..OK
03..luvbugs4ever.....12-14-06..12-21-06..03-02-07..04-16-07..2006-8xxxx..Interview postponed
04..M&M.............11-20-06..xx-xx-xx..03-02-07..04-16-07..2007-503xxx
05..Jeff&Boo........12-26-06..01-12-07..02-26-07..04-26-07..2007-5xxxxx

07..CherylandMike...02-05-07..02-26-07..xx-xx-xx..05-16-07..2007-546xxx
08..Robor007........02-06-07..02-26-07..03-30-07..05-15-07..2007-546xxx

IR-1/CR-1
Name.................NOA2.....CASE CMPLT..PACKET..INTERVIEW...MNL CASE#..STATUS
01..w1n78...........09-05-06..11-16-06..02-05-07..03-02-07..2006-764xxx..AR..Mar 23/21 days/Makati
02..soulm8z0928.....09-06-06..11-16-06..02-05-07..03-14-07..2006-76xxxx..OK..Mar 20/06 days/Metro Manila
03..M&M.............09-07-06..11-15-06..02-05-07..03-15-07..2006-765xxx..OK..Mar 19/4days/Taguig
04..dims1...........09-20-06..12-01-06..02-06-07..03-19-07..2006-775xxx..AR..hang in there!
05..KimTung.........09-26-06..12-21-06..xx-xx-xx..03-22-07..2006-779xxx..AR

06..randynrose......09-29-06..02-06-07..03-06-07..04-20-07..2006-xxxxxx
07..StarProg........12-28-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2007-508xxx
08..Robor007........02-06-07..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2007-xxxxxx

rea

Apr 17 2007, 08:11 AM

[quote name='louiejane2903' date='Apr 17 2007, 12:58 AM' post='843085']
hi rea! BC and Cenomar doesn't have expiration...but still CENOMAR needs to be recent prior to ur interview.

anyways, welcome to VJ and to Manila Embassy interview thread.

thanks louiejane2903! but how recent should the cenomar be? i just thought the USE requires bc and cenomar to be secured a certain number of months from the date of interview..say bc and cenomar should be secured from nso 1 month before the interview date..because we spent so much with my bc and cenomar coz we got it via online and have it delivered in my office..first request we spent P1,700(2 copies of cenomar @ 400 each and 3 copies of bc @ 300 each) ang guess what? when i got my cenomar i incorrectly input my mother's maiden name so we have to request another one and then again we spent P400 (i requested only 1 copy)...

and wasted my P800

rea

Apr 17 2007, 08:14 AM

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Pinay Wife

Apr 17 2007, 08:30 AM

QUOTE(KimTung @ Apr 17 2007, 12:50 PM)

It looks like everyone's getting their visa and I'm only the one left here. I feel so depress.

:crying:WAH!!WAH!!

Hang in there, Kim Tung! Visas are usually released from AR prison in 4-6 weeks. We will be waiting for your happy post.

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 16 2007, 10:50 PM)

Are you saying that if I get a divorce from her that I will not be able to petition another filipina and marry her in the USA?

Glenn, if your divorce is granted, you will be able to petition another Filipina and marry her either here in Manila or in the USA.

QUOTE(vic&el4ever @ Apr 16 2007, 11:08 PM)

El will be leaving on Friday for her trip to the US, our life is about to start all over again. Prey for us!!! HEHEHE

Please bless Vic as he cleans the house, the toilet, the garage, the cupboards, the oven, the dishwasher, the basement, and the yard before El arrives.

Have a happy reunion, Vic, and may God bless your union.

gracy_byron

Apr 17 2007, 08:45 AM

Any good hotels that you can recomend guys near the embassy? When we had our medical we had our reservation in City Garden but we missed the check in time and they cancelled our reservation =( I was so upset cuz the medical was so long and we end up looking for a place to spend the night after a long exhaustin day, wanna make sure it wont happen again to us.

Thanks in advance.

beameup

Apr 17 2007, 08:58 AM

There are a lot of nice hotels in that area so it shouldn't be a problem finding a room.
If you are ever running late you should just give them a phone call.

QUOTE(gracy_byron @ Apr 17 2007, 09:45 PM)

Any good hotels that you can recomend guys near the embassy? When we had our medical we had our reservation in City Garden but we missed the check in time and they cancelled our reservation =( I was so upset cuz the medical was so long and we end up looking for a place to spend the night after a long exhaustin day, wanna make sure it wont happen again to us.

Thanks in advance.

Oliver and Lisa

Apr 17 2007, 09:01 AM

QUOTE(gracy_byron @ Apr 17 2007, 08:45 AM)

Any good hotels that you can recomend guys near the embassy? When we had our medical we had our reservation in City Garden but we missed the check in time and they cancelled our reservation =( I was so upset cuz the medical was so long and we end up looking for a place to spend the night after a long exhaustin day, wanna make sure it wont happen again to us.

Thanks in advance.

After our medical last week (last week right?) i made reservation from Miramar hotel right infront of US Embassy next to Baywalk Hotel, looks nice naman inside and they don't ask deposit for reservation, i heard that you have to make reservation one moth before.

George and Jenny

Apr 17 2007, 09:11 AM

QUOTE(genlramos @ Apr 16 2007, 11:28 PM)

Visa in hand...!!! April 11 interview, Visa delivered -- Pasay City/April 17
Perfect timing...
Good Luck everyone!!!!!! And thanks to all of the past and present contributors here.
This would have been a very bleak and lonely experience without VisaJourney...

CONGRATZ!!

Pinay Wife

Apr 17 2007, 09:26 AM

QUOTE(Ken_Maria @ Apr 16 2007, 11:35 PM)

I thought a U.S. Divorce was recognized in the PI? PW, Sheriff & Deputy Uling... a littel help... Ken

Yes, divorce obtained abroad is recognized in the Philippines but under certain circumstances as explained below.

QUOTE(vsmtghdy @ Apr 17 2007, 12:59 PM)

(1) The problem will be for your wife (ex-wife to be)-> Since she will not be able to get married again.

(2) If she wants to get married, in case she scam another man to petition and marry her -> her status will remain MARRIED in the Philippines.

(3) x x xand unless she files for an Annulment here in the Philippines, she cannot marry again.

(4) A friend of mine was married here (Philippines) but got divorced by his wife (Norway) due to infedelity. The wife is happily married now in Norway. My friend cannot marry again (he's here-PHilippines), unless he files for an annulment and we know that takes months and money and he can't afford it for now. So, that's his karma, he can't get married and can't have a "real" relationship with anyone here, because most girls of course would want to get married and would not want to get involved with a married man.

(1) A US divorce is recognized in the Philippines. Art. 26 of the Family Code of the Philippines is very clear:

"Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law. (As amended by Executive Order 227)"

(2) A divorce obtained by the US citizen spouse will give the Filipino spouse the legal capacity to marry.

(3) A Filipino spouse does not need to file an annulment in order to marry again if the foreign spouse divorced her. The Filipino spouse, I believe, need only to show the divorce decree and the law (or Civil Code) of the alien spouse's country that supports the divorce according to initial research (Philippine Supreme Court ruling) I've made.

(4) The law is more complicated if it involves two Filipino spouses, one of which naturalized. For brevity, this is the law using Tarzan and Jane (both Filipinos) as examples:

Case 1: Jane is naturalized before her divorce is granted
Result : Divorce is recognized by PI because Jane is an American at time of divorce. Tarzan can marry in the Philippines

Case 2: Jane is naturalized after her divorce is granted
Result: Divorce is not recognized by PI. Jane is still Filipino at time of divorce. Tarzan cannot marry in the Philippines

Case 3: Jane did not naturalize but files for divorce and is granted
Result: Divorce is not recognized by PI but Jane can marry in the US while her poor husband Tarzan cannot. But Tarzan can sue Jane for bigamy once she sets foot in Tarzan's jungle.

For mixed marriages, the citizenship of the Filipino spouse at the time of divorce is the determining factor whether the spouse he/she left behind in the PI can marry or not.

Okay, I'm sleepy now. Not sure if I explained myself clearly as law (and divorce!) is a very complicated thing. Good night everyone. I'm off to Dreamland.

zzzzzzz
PW

Glenn & Rosemarie

Apr 17 2007, 09:36 AM

Hi Everyone, as you know my life has been upside down lately. I guess also it will be that way for awhile. I need some advice, feedback or viewpoints. Then again, maybe I just need to vent? I can never get my mother-in-law on the phone. She sends me text messages almost daily. She sometimes begs me to take Rosemarie back, then sometimes she sends text with things like "don't hurt her or kill her!" Hell, I don't even know where she is! I was told yesterday that she is in a shelter somewhere? her mother is sending me text messages based on information she receieved from an undisclosed friend of Rosemarie's. She states that I ordered my wife to leave in middle of the night and that I was angry with my wife everyday. Yes, some days I was angry at her. Yes, it makes me angry that she has $1000 cell phone bill. Yes it makes me angry that she lays on couch all day watching the filipino channel and never helping me clean our house, cook our meals, do basically anything to help me. Yes, I was angry that when I come home she has cooked, only for herself and cleaned nothing up.

Does this sound unreasonable to anyone? When getting angry, yes I raise my voice. Yes, when someone lies to me over and over and I know it's a lie. It makes me angry when my wife acts as though she could care less for me, when I am treating her like a princess. I just don't know what will happen here. She is still in the USA somewhere. I need closure to this 19 month long scam. Thanks for letting me vent.
Glenn

Skeeter211

Apr 17 2007, 10:05 AM

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 17 2007, 07:36 AM)

Hi Everyone, as you know my life has been upside down lately. I guess also it will be that way for awhile. I need some advice, feedback or viewpoints. Then again, maybe I just need to vent? I can never get my mother-in-law on the phone. She sends me text messages almost daily. She sometimes begs me to take Rosemarie back, then sometimes she sends text with things like "don't hurt her or kill her!" Hell, I don't even know where she is! I was told yesterday that she is in a shelter somewhere? her mother is sending me text messages based on information she receieved from an undisclosed friend of Rosemarie's. She states that I ordered my wife to leave in middle of the night and that I was angry with my wife everyday. Yes, some days I was angry at her. Yes, it makes me angry that she has $1000 cell phone bill. Yes it makes me angry that she lays on couch all day watching the filipino channel and never helping me clean our house, cook our meals, do basically anything to help me. Yes, I was angry that when I come home she has cooked, only for herself and cleaned nothing up.

Does this sound unreasonable to anyone? When getting angry, yes I raise my voice. Yes, when someone lies to me over and over and I know it's a lie. It makes me angry when my wife acts as though she could care less for me, when I am treating her like a princess. I just don't know what will happen here. She is still in the USA somewhere. I need closure to this 19 month long scam. Thanks for letting me vent.
Glenn

Glenn....first let me say sorry for what happened to you. Second, let me say I am puzzled by this post. Do you really care what her family thinks at this point? I thought her family was part of the scam?

Third, I would be a little concerned about the fact you think she is in a shelter. Homeless shelter or a battered woman's shelter? I don't mean to imply you battered her. I mean that maybe she will try and claim that she was battered as a means of gaining her right to stay in the USA without you. As shameful as she sounds, I would not put it past her. Protect yourself by saving every piece of evidence you have gathered so far that points to other reasons for her departure. Print out the webpage of her inquiry for another lesbian lover, save emails from those disclosing this information to you...and anything else you can think of to protect yourself.

Lastly....closure? Filing for divorce and changing your cell phone number to get the family out of your life comes to mind. You don't need any part of her or her family anymore.

Just one man''s opinion...subject to criticism....and by all means imperfect.

Scott

Ken_Maria

Apr 17 2007, 10:15 AM

Gary, too many nice hotel in Malate and Ermita the areas near the Embassy. Try Precisionreservations for the best prices. Once you put in the search criteria, then select the Manila Map tab and look for hotel in Malate/Ermita both walking distance from the Embassy. We stayed at the Exec Plaza for $38 a night. You can let them know online about late check in and additional guest. Ken & Maria

QUOTE(gracy_byron @ Apr 17 2007, 03:45 AM)

Any good hotels that you can recomend guys near the embassy? When we had our medical we had our reservation in City Garden but we missed the check in time and they cancelled our reservation =( I was so upset cuz the medical was so long and we end up looking for a place to spend the night after a long exhaustin day, wanna make sure it wont happen again to us.

Thanks in advance.

Ken_Maria

Apr 17 2007, 10:21 AM

QUOTE(Skeeter211 @ Apr 17 2007, 05:05 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 17 2007, 07:36 AM)

Hi Everyone, as you know my life has been upside down lately. I guess also it will be that way for awhile. I need some advice, feedback or viewpoints. Then again, maybe I just need to vent? I can never get my mother-in-law on the phone. She sends me text messages almost daily. She sometimes begs me to take Rosemarie back, then sometimes she sends text with things like "don't hurt her or kill her!" Hell, I don't even know where she is! I was told yesterday that she is in a shelter somewhere? her mother is sending me text messages based on information she receieved from an undisclosed friend of Rosemarie's. She states that I ordered my wife to leave in middle of the night and that I was angry with my wife everyday. Yes, some days I was angry at her. Yes, it makes me angry that she has $1000 cell phone bill. Yes it makes me angry that she lays on couch all day watching the filipino channel and never helping me clean our house, cook our meals, do basically anything to help me. Yes, I was angry that when I come home she has cooked, only for herself and cleaned nothing up.

Does this sound unreasonable to anyone? When getting angry, yes I raise my voice. Yes, when someone lies to me over and over and I know it's a lie. It makes me angry when my wife acts as though she could care less for me, when I am treating her like a princess. I just don't know what will happen here. She is still in the USA somewhere. I need closure to this 19 month long scam. Thanks for letting me vent.
Glenn

Glenn....first let me say sorry for what happened to you. Second, let me say I am puzzled by this post. Do you really care what her family thinks at this point? I thought her family was part of the scam?

Third, I would be a little concerned about the fact you think she is in a shelter. Homeless shelter or a battered woman's shelter? I don't mean to imply you battered her. I mean that maybe she will try and claim that she was battered as a means of gaining her right to stay in the USA without you. As shameful as she sounds, I would not put it past her. Protect yourself by saving every piece of evidence you have gathered so far that points to other reasons for her departure. Print out the webpage of her inquiry for another lesbian lover, save emails from those disclosing this information to you...and anything else you can think of to protect yourself.

Lastly....closure? Filing for divorce and changing your cell phone number to get the family out of your life comes to mind. You don't need any part of her or her family anymore.

Just one man''s opinion...subject to criticism....and by all means imperfect.

Scott

Glenn & Rosemarie

Apr 17 2007, 10:24 AM

QUOTE(Skeeter211 @ Apr 17 2007, 11:05 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 17 2007, 07:36 AM)

Hi Everyone, as you know my life has been upside down lately. I guess also it will be that way for awhile. I need some advice, feedback or viewpoints. Then again, maybe I just need to vent? I can never get my mother-in-law on the phone. She sends me text messages almost daily. She sometimes begs me to take Rosemarie back, then sometimes she sends text with things like "don't hurt her or kill her!" Hell, I don't even know where she is! I was told yesterday that she is in a shelter somewhere? her mother is sending me text messages based on information she receieved from an undisclosed friend of Rosemarie's. She states that I ordered my wife to leave in middle of the night and that I was angry with my wife everyday. Yes, some days I was angry at her. Yes, it makes me angry that she has $1000 cell phone bill. Yes it makes me angry that she lays on couch all day watching the filipino channel and never helping me clean our house, cook our meals, do basically anything to help me. Yes, I was angry that when I come home she has cooked, only for herself and cleaned nothing up.

Does this sound unreasonable to anyone? When getting angry, yes I raise my voice. Yes, when someone lies to me over and over and I know it's a lie. It makes me angry when my wife acts as though she could care less for me, when I am treating her like a princess. I just don't know what will happen here. She is still in the USA somewhere. I need closure to this 19 month long scam. Thanks for letting me vent.
Glenn

Glenn....first let me say sorry for what happened to you. Second, let me say I am puzzled by this post. Do you really care what her family thinks at this point? I thought her family was part of the scam?

Third, I would be a little concerned about the fact you think she is in a shelter. Homeless shelter or a battered woman's shelter? I don't mean to imply you battered her. I mean that maybe she will try and claim that she was battered as a means of gaining her right to stay in the USA without you. As shameful as she sounds, I would not put it past her. Protect yourself by saving every piece of evidence you have gathered so far that points to other reasons for her departure. Print out the webpage of her inquiry for another lesbian lover, save emails from those disclosing this information to you...and anything else you can think of to protect yourself.

Lastly....closure? Filing for divorce and changing your cell phone number to get the family out of your life comes to mind. You don't need any part of her or her family anymore.

Just one man''s opinion...subject to criticism....and by all means imperfect.

Scott

I see that you see the same unsettling part of this as I do. A Shelter? What for is my question? When she first left, I assumed she was pawning her jewelery and headed for the Philippines. No, I didn't batter her. I would never become that angry at anyone. Now raising my voice, yes, but very matter of fact and diplomatic. I have saved evidence on my computer and text messages, etc. I have her ad copied at the Lezbo site as well. I see these people trying one last ditch effort to extort something from me. As for her lover that thinks she is headed here on a CR1 sponsored by the old man in Arizona, I gave him heads up yesterday via phone call. Thanks

Dean iWait

Apr 17 2007, 10:47 AM

Congrats to PW, George and Jenny and anyone else I might of missed. Sheryl and I are now in the U.S. and have been getting settled in for the past few days. Now we need to plan a wedding as the POE officer reminded us.

Only one trick question from him. He said "Oh so you two got married in the Philippines". I said "Oh no we will get married here in the U.S."

My sympathies to anyone who has to use LAX on a regular basis at least for international flights with domestic connections. Ugggh.

George and Jenny

Apr 17 2007, 10:49 AM

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 17 2007, 11:24 AM)

QUOTE(Skeeter211 @ Apr 17 2007, 11:05 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 17 2007, 07:36 AM)

Hi Everyone, as you know my life has been upside down lately. I guess also it will be that way for awhile. I need some advice, feedback or viewpoints. Then again, maybe I just need to vent? I can never get my mother-in-law on the phone. She sends me text messages almost daily. She sometimes begs me to take Rosemarie back, then sometimes she sends text with things like "don't hurt her or kill her!" Hell, I don't even know where she is! I was told yesterday that she is in a shelter somewhere? her mother is sending me text messages based on information she receieved from an undisclosed friend of Rosemarie's. She states that I ordered my wife to leave in middle of the night and that I was angry with my wife everyday. Yes, some days I was angry at her. Yes, it makes me angry that she has $1000 cell phone bill. Yes it makes me angry that she lays on couch all day watching the filipino channel and never helping me clean our house, cook our meals, do basically anything to help me. Yes, I was angry that when I come home she has cooked, only for herself and cleaned nothing up.

Does this sound unreasonable to anyone? When getting angry, yes I raise my voice. Yes, when someone lies to me over and over and I know it's a lie. It makes me angry when my wife acts as though she could care less for me, when I am treating her like a princess. I just don't know what will happen here. She is still in the USA somewhere. I need closure to this 19 month long scam. Thanks for letting me vent.
Glenn

Glenn....first let me say sorry for what happened to you. Second, let me say I am puzzled by this post. Do you really care what her family thinks at this point? I thought her family was part of the scam?

Third, I would be a little concerned about the fact you think she is in a shelter. Homeless shelter or a battered woman's shelter? I don't mean to imply you battered her. I mean that maybe she will try and claim that she was battered as a means of gaining her right to stay in the USA without you. As shameful as she sounds, I would not put it past her. Protect yourself by saving every piece of evidence you have gathered so far that points to other reasons for her departure. Print out the webpage of her inquiry for another lesbian lover, save emails from those disclosing this information to you...and anything else you can think of to protect yourself.

Lastly....closure? Filing for divorce and changing your cell phone number to get the family out of your life comes to mind. You don't need any part of her or her family anymore.

Just one man''s opinion...subject to criticism....and by all means imperfect.

Scott

I see that you see the same unsettling part of this as I do. A Shelter? What for is my question? When she first left, I assumed she was pawning her jewelery and headed for the Philippines. No, I didn't batter her. I would never become that angry at anyone. Now raising my voice, yes, but very matter of fact and diplomatic. I have saved evidence on my computer and text messages, etc. I have her ad copied at the Lezbo site as well. I see these people trying one last ditch effort to extort something from me. As for her lover that thinks she is headed here on a CR1 sponsored by the old man in Arizona, I gave him heads up yesterday via phone call. Thanks

So Glenn, forgive me for asking but, give us an idea of what this man said. Was he aware of the scam or did he defend his fiancee?

buggygirl

Apr 17 2007, 11:21 AM

Hi everyone, im new here got into this site while browsing and needs some advise.

Please read http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=64334

Thank you.

louiejane2903

Apr 17 2007, 11:23 AM

maybe recent as 1 or 2 months...yeah i agree with u...getting a copy via online is very much expensive but we can have it at our convenience. We don't have to suffer too much crowd at NSO office and less stressful. and like you, i all got my copy thru online.

QUOTE(rea @ Apr 17 2007, 09:11 PM)

QUOTE(louiejane2903 @ Apr 17 2007, 12:58 AM)

hi rea! BC and Cenomar doesn't have expiration...but still CENOMAR needs to be recent prior to ur interview.

anyways, welcome to VJ and to Manila Embassy interview thread.

thanks louiejane2903! but how recent should the cenomar be? i just thought the USE requires bc and cenomar to be secured a certain number of months from the date of interview..say bc and cenomar should be secured from nso 1 month before the interview date..because we spent so much with my bc and cenomar coz we got it via online and have it delivered in my office..first request we spent P1,700(2 copies of cenomar @ 400 each and 3 copies of bc @ 300 each) ang guess what? when i got my cenomar i incorrectly input my mother's maiden name so we have to request another one and then again we spent P400 (i requested only 1 copy)...

and wasted my P800

Glenn & Rosemarie

Apr 17 2007, 11:49 AM

QUOTE(George and Jenny @ Apr 17 2007, 11:49 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 17 2007, 11:24 AM)

QUOTE(Skeeter211 @ Apr 17 2007, 11:05 AM)

QUOTE(Glenn & Rosemarie @ Apr 17 2007, 07:36 AM)

Hi Everyone, as you know my life has been upside down lately. I guess also it will be that way for awhile. I need some advice, feedback or viewpoints. Then again, maybe I just need to vent? I can never get my mother-in-law on the phone. She sends me text messages almost daily. She sometimes begs me to take Rosemarie back, then sometimes she sends text with things like "don't hurt her or kill her!" Hell, I don't even know where she is! I was told yesterday that she is in a shelter somewhere? her mother is sending me text messages based on information she receieved from an undisclosed friend of Rosemarie's. She states that I ordered my wife to leave in middle of the night and that I was angry with my wife everyday. Yes, some days I was angry at her. Yes, it makes me angry that she has $1000 cell phone bill. Yes it makes me angry that she lays on couch all day watching the filipino channel and never helping me clean our house, cook our meals, do basically anything to help me. Yes, I was angry that when I come home she has cooked, only for herself and cleaned nothing up.

Does this sound unreasonable to anyone? When getting angry, yes I raise my voice. Yes, when someone lies to me over and over and I know it's a lie. It makes me angry when my wife acts as though she could care less for me, when I am treating her like a princess. I just don't know what will happen here. She is still in the USA somewhere. I need closure to this 19 month long scam. Thanks for letting me vent.
Glenn

Glenn....first let me say sorry for what happened to you. Second, let me say I am puzzled by this post. Do you really care what her family thinks at this point? I thought her family was part of the scam?

Third, I would be a little concerned about the fact you think she is in a shelter. Homeless shelter or a battered woman's shelter? I don't mean to imply you battered her. I mean that maybe she will try and claim that she was battered as a means of gaining her right to stay in the USA without you. As shameful as she sounds, I would not put it past her. Protect yourself by saving every piece of evidence you have gathered so far that points to other reasons for her departure. Print out the webpage of her inquiry for another lesbian lover, save emails from those disclosing this information to you...and anything else you can think of to protect yourself.

Lastly....closure? Filing for divorce and changing your cell phone number to get the family out of your life comes to mind. You don't need any part of her or her family anymore.

Just one man''s opinion...subject to criticism....and by all means imperfect.

Scott

I see that you see the same unsettling part of this as I do. A Shelter? What for is my question? When she first left, I assumed she was pawning her jewelery and headed for the Philippines. No, I didn't batter her. I would never become that angry at anyone. Now raising my voice, yes, but very matter of fact and diplomatic. I have saved evidence on my computer and text messages, etc. I have her ad copied at the Lezbo site as well. I see these people trying one last ditch effort to extort something from me. As for her lover that thinks she is headed here on a CR1 sponsored by the old man in Arizona, I gave him heads up yesterday via phone call. Thanks

So Glenn, forgive me for asking but, give us an idea of what this man said. Was he aware of the scam or did he defend his fiancee?

The man is a desperate man that wants companionship. He doesn't trust that girl at all, but he is foolish enough to think he can control her. Things and methods he talked of regarding controling, scare me. He believes she is a lesbian, just like my wife. In fact told me that while he was in the Philippines with his wife, they lived with my wife. According to him my wife was living with her lover (his wife) daily when I wasn't there. He is foolish enough in my opinion that he will believe her. The man is 67 and the girl is 20! Gimme a break! The motives for her to come to the USA are clear. BTW, this man just seperated from his last Filipina wife about 9 months ago. She lived with him eight years and left him for another man. She was 38 years younger than him.

Sheriff Uling

Apr 17 2007, 01:43 PM

For the Medical Exam at SLEC:

1. Appointment Letter
2. Passport
3. Passport Photos (3 copies and they must be 2x2 inches: see page 8 of Packet 4)
4. Payment of $95 USD (paid in pesos / $95 USD equivalent)
5. Ballpoint Pen
6. Tissue
7. Sweater or Jacket (SLEC is air conditioned and cold)

NOTE: The passport will be taken and delivered to the USE along with your medical exam results. They do not allow food or drinks inside of SLEC.

FAQ (Sample listing):

1. Any Major operations?
2. Do you have Asthma?
3. Allergy to any medicine or food?
4. Do you smoke marijuana?
5. Do you smoke cigarettes?
6. Do you drink alcohol?
7. Have you ever had Chicken pox? (if yes) Where are the marks?
8. Have you ever had an abortion?
9. Ever attempted to commit suicide?

Cheers!!!

Sheriff Uling

Wes and Shiela

Apr 17 2007, 01:54 PM

QUOTE(KimTung @ Apr 16 2007, 11:55 PM)

Hello Mike,

It's great news that you found a joint sponsor for your wife.

Well on my case we really don't know what's going on. My husband called the embassy last week and was told that they are still verifying the papers we sent to NVC and they won't tell what doc they are checking on.

Very well said, we just wait for God's time and may He bless us with more patience and strenght in handling this.

QUOTE(louiejane2903 @ Apr 17 2007, 12:41 AM)

Hi everyone!

count me in! i'm on AR jail too because of their routine check at NSO. We did call USEM twice and the recent update was..they already file a request at NSO on very same day i was placed on AR.

Goodluck to everyone and God Bless...

I am still waiting in AR hell also....

We turned in all the required SLEC paperwork on 03/28. I called the embassy last week, and they said they had requested additional documents, which they received the day I called. No idea what documents they requested, or where the documents came from. The girl I spoke to at the embassy said I just need to be patient. Which of course, is very easy to say, but so hard to do!

So, you guys are not alone... Hopefully, we'll all hear the good news one day soon...

'my_destiny'

Apr 17 2007, 02:33 PM

QUOTE(buggygirl @ Apr 18 2007, 12:21 AM)

Hi everyone, im new here got into this site while browsing and needs some advise.

Please read http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=64334

Thank you.

Hello buggygirl! Welcome to the Forum,
You friend for sure will not listen to any advice because she is enjoying the money she is getting from those guyz. Money is the root of all evil and for sure, she will enjoy now but she will face her verdict soon. FOr sure, she will have her Karma in other days.

Try to advice those guy if you know them and give them proof or evidence that this girl is just using them

Good luck!

vic&el4ever

Apr 17 2007, 02:35 PM

Hey Guys quick question about the airport fees and the Philippine traveler tax. I am correct that this tax was 1650? Airports fees are the same? She has a flight from CDO to Manila, then Manila to Tokyo. Does Tokyo ask for any airport fees or taxes?

Thanks Victor

QUOTE(Wes @ Apr 17 2007, 01:54 PM)

QUOTE(KimTung @ Apr 16 2007, 11:55 PM)

Hello Mike,

It's great news that you found a joint sponsor for your wife.

Well on my case we really don't know what's going on. My husband called the embassy last week and was told that they are still verifying the papers we sent to NVC and they won't tell what doc they are checking on.

Very well said, we just wait for God's time and may He bless us with more patience and strenght in handling this.

QUOTE(louiejane2903 @ Apr 17 2007, 12:41 AM)

Hi everyone!

count me in! i'm on AR jail too because of their routine check at NSO. We did call USEM twice and the recent update was..they already file a request at NSO on very same day i was placed on AR.

Goodluck to everyone and God Bless...

I am still waiting in AR hell also....

We turned in all the required SLEC paperwork on 03/28. I called the embassy last week, and they said they had requested additional documents, which they received the day I called. No idea what documents they requested, or where the documents came from. The girl I spoke to at the embassy said I just need to be patient. Which of course, is very easy to say, but so hard to do!

So, you guys are not alone... Hopefully, we'll all hear the good news one day soon...

Been there for sure, good luck guys!!!

Sheriff Uling

Apr 17 2007, 02:37 PM

For the Medical Exam at SLEC:

What to bring:

1. Appointment Letter
2. Passport
3. Passport Photos (3 copies and they must be 2x2 inches: see page 8 of Packet 4)
4. Payment of $95 USD (paid in pesos / $95 USD equivalent)
5. Ballpoint Pen
6. Tissue
7. Sweater or Jacket (SLEC is air conditioned and cold)

NOTE: Beneficiaries please bring or know your sponsor's personal infomation (address, phone number, and ssn #) for the SLEC forms. Don't be alarmed because the beneficiary's passport will be taken at SLEC and delivered to the USE along with your medical exam results prior to the visa interview. Beneficiaries please eat beforehand because SLEC prohibits food or drinks inside of the facility. Guest(s) and family member(s), except the beneficiaries child(ren), will NOT be permitted inside of SLEC.

FAQ (Sample listing):

1. Any Major operations?
2. Do you have Asthma?
3. Allergy to any medicine or food?
4. Do you smoke marijuana?
5. Do you smoke cigarettes?
6. Do you drink alcohol?
7. Have you ever had Chicken pox? (if yes) Where are the marks?
8. Have you ever had an abortion?
9. Have you ever attempted to commit suicide?
10. When was your last menstrual cycle?

Cheers!!!

Sheriff Uling

vic&el4ever

Apr 17 2007, 03:17 PM

QUOTE

name='vic&el4ever' post='841241' date='Apr 16 2007, 11:08 PM']El will be leaving on Friday for her trip to the US, our life is about to start all over again. Prey for us!!! HEHEHE

QUOTE

Please bless Vic as he cleans the house, the toilet, the garage, the cupboards, the oven, the dishwasher, the basement, and the yard before El arrives.

Have a happy reunion, Vic, and may God bless your union.

Hey Cora how come your name is not on your own list? I saw you was arroved, CONGRATS!!!

Wow you know Filipino women and former single white men

Sure you know I am busy cleaning, but I did say i will leave some for her so she will not be bored while I am out working

Well I know her saying you don't need to clean everthing dear is just a setup to see if I will be a lazy husband or not HAHAHA!!!