Does anyone here like (or know) who Gyptian is? I am listening to his song "Beautiful Lady." I know this song has been out for a while, but everytime I hear it, it makes me feel like I am at home (JA, that is.)

"She said oooohhh, and aaaahhhh, she never felt so right. I said yeeesss , oh baby, breathe on me tonight...." Just lovely.

And there you go AGAIN with generalizations, have ALL the American women here told you that no matter what ypu say about 'your' American men they won't be offended in ANY way???

I believe its on his CD Rebellion, but double check to make sure. And Damian, that is another story. I am usually not too "celebrity crazy" but that is one artist that I love with a passion. He did a few concerts in JA while I was there and I was sooo tempted to go, but then I remembered that I was married, and my husband wouldn't like me trying to kiss all over Damian and stuff. (He is a bit jealous of my obsession.) His lyrics are so real, he just keep it real, and I appreciate him as an artist. And when him and Steven get together they can really do some damage.

My hubby claims he has "connections ", and one day he will take me to meet Damian. Im like, whatever...

Hello Everyone,

Of course I cannot sit and read this thread (and part 3) and be quiet. As you all know I am new here, and I must stress that you all have been very helpful regarding the immigration process for my husband. This whole thing about generalizations and tearing down our Jamaican men- I must say that everyone's experiences is there own experiences. (I am sure someone said this already, however it must be emphasized.) And whoever discuss their experiences about a JA should state the fact that they are talking about their JA, not everyone's JA. Everyone is different; no two people are the same, regardless of where they come from. And I am sure a lot of us were aware of the sterotypes about our men before we met them.

Also, everyone has the right to take someone's opinon and apply it to their situation. People try to tell me about their bad experience's with a JA all the time. I stop them mid-sentence , and I just get real "hood" with them and be like " nope, naw girl, you aint tellin me bout my man. i know my husband, and if you think i made a bad decision, then good for you. IF (and i must stress the I-F) things don't work out wit me and him, then at least i experienced it myself. let me deal with the heartbreak or whateva. i don't need no warning signs, no watch out signals, or whateva you talkin. i appreciate yo comments and concerns, but i am a grown a** woman, and i don't wanna hear yo negativity about yo JA man, becauze i know what im dealin with." And then I just keep on pushing.

I know there are majority women on this thread, but if there are some men on here, please speak up, we need you. So I hope everyone can try to keep the peace, because you all have been helpful. Even if I don't reply to specific comments, I do read them all and prepare myself. I am very thankful for all of you, because me and my hubby would be lost...literally. We would be so frustrated right now, we probably wouldn't think about bringing him here. But reading everyone's timelines/experiences has helped me realize that me and my husband can do this... we will survive this excruciating process.

(reading this thread + early pregnancy emotions = (excuse me, i must get some tissue now).

EXCELLENT post!!!!


Girl I feel you about the emotions, I've just changed BACK from the B****H from helll lol!
Been sick from maybe 3 weeks pregnant though and STILL throwing up

Jeez!

I sign off and go to bed and wake to find that not only has the thread been moved but something akin to Armageddon has taken place. Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

Now to the topic at hand.

I for one don't care if a woman says 'My Jamaican husband is a dog'.
However, I take EXTREME issue with her saying 'Any Jamaican man you bring up is going to be a dog'
Because that is no longer PERSONAL experience, but a BLANKET statement!!
So while I will bite my lip when I hear some generalizations being made in what I believe is ignorance, I will not sit idly by and watch my Jamaican kings being lumped together because of someone's bad experiences.....
Of course I expect women to tell both the good and the bad, hopefully sharing will help someone else in a similar situation. I think it is of paramount importance that the 'seedy' side is shown, the horror stories.
But what needs to be remembered is that the bad in your relationship is not a trend, not a given, but a PERSONAL experience.
I derieve no pleasure from 'jumping' on people or proving they are stereotypical. All I demand is that you treat every situation as a personal experience, not a blueprint on 'What Happens When You Marry A Jamaican'....
Many of the women here are living with their families buying into the stereotype of a 'black Jamaican man' and are vocal in their outrage. Yet many here are creating their very own pet stereotype while critizing the actions of others....

I will always try to support, to educate, to help, to provide any insight I can to help people here.
But I will not sit and watch ANYONE tear Jamaicans to shreds.

Question for you......Are you marrying an American man???? If so, dag I'm QUITE SURE we could bash the h*** out of OUR american men and NOT ONE AMERICAN WOMAN ON HERE WILL FEEL OFFENDED IN ANY WAY !!!!!!!

Oh my gosh. & to think that soon I wont be just a visitor or vacationer, I will be FAMILY!!!! IM SO EXCITED.

WAIT, are you speaking about Damien (your hubby)?? Oh, I though you meant Damian Marley. Girl, now you know I love me some Damian M. because I am just ranting on and on and on. I am laughing so hard right now, I think I am going to cry. (Inhale/Exhale). Ok, I am sorry. But yea, Gyptian is a good artist. I have never seen him perform in person though. And as you know Damian is another fav of mine. I think I need to take a nap now.

Girl I feel you about the emotions, I've just changed BACK from the B****H from helll lol!
Been sick from maybe 3 weeks pregnant though and STILL throwing up

I know what you mean. I feel like I'm part Jamaican myself Everyone is jealous when I tell them I'm going to visit my in-laws!

My new father-in-law is an opinionated sweetheart that refuses to retire, drives a school bus and collects cowbells and pennies dated since before my own mother was born. My mother-in-law doesn't say much but bakes some great pies and always has something to wrap up for us to take back home.

Guess I am one of the luckier ones with no real issues with acceptance here.

I used to love that show

I watched it this morning

I just had to pop in and say hello!!! I saw Jomo's Girl on here FINALLY!!!! hey chica! It's me Jilly from ETJ!! Tell Jomo I say hey.

Hey Nyseness, SJB, Jonesie, Rhonda, Mindy and the rest of the crew!

And just need to add....after all I've been through with my Jamaican man (and I don't mean just the denial)....I don't hate him OR any of them for that matter.

I just had to pop in and say hello!!! I saw Jomo's Girl on here FINALLY!!!! hey chica! It's me Jilly from ETJ!! Tell Jomo I say hey.

Hey Nyseness, SJB, Jonesie, Rhonda, Mindy and the rest of the crew!

And just need to add....after all I've been through with my Jamaican man (and I don't mean just the denial)....I don't hate him OR any of them for that matter.

i got my welcome letter yesterday and got my social about last week friday no sign of the green card.

I love you Trini Your opinions are ALWAYS welcome It's nice to have different perspectives and opinions on matters.

I went and read that thread. I hope that isn't real If it is, that is some SERIOUS DRAMA!!!

[color=#9932CC]Go ahead -- hate me -- I don't care!!!

you are funny. I love Damian Marley too. He's coming to town with Stephen sometime in May.

Every relationship is different and goes through different processes. And every MAN is different, Jamaican or not. I do agree with what someone said above, that sometimes it seems they tend to go through the exact same things. Maybe it is a cultural thing....I don't know. I don't think comparing what has happened to someone personally should be considered stereotyping.

What I do want to say is tha I don't think anyone should jump on anyone else when they make a statement you don't like. If someone is going through a particularly difficult situation, I try to listen to them and support them, even if I don't completely agree with how they are handling the situation. While my own marriage is wonderful and I can't complain, I have been through a few rough relationships to this point. I see similarities in what some others have said on here. Had I read their stories sooner, perhaps I could've saved myself some heartache. It would be far more beneficial to take from this site what you need, whether it be congratulations, support, advice, whatever and leave behind constructive comments. Tearing apart each other is not beneficial to anyone. I've been on one other web site, in particular, where you pertty much palpate the hate. What's the point?

That being said, I don't think you have to censor yourself. Like the one person said, we are not a cheering squad. We do not have to agree with everyone and everything. But, a little tact goes a long way. Say your comments in a less hateful manner and you will still get your points across.

My husband said it's him or the dog

My husband said it's him or the dog

Why do these men have to make life so difficult? Can he find an apartment nearby?

you are funny. I love Damian Marley too. He's coming to town with Stephen sometime in May.

I am SOOOOOOOO scared of getting pregnant

My new father-in-law is an opinionated sweetheart that refuses to retire, drives a school bus and collects cowbells and pennies dated since before my own mother was born. My mother-in-law doesn't say much but bakes some great pies and always has something to wrap up for us to take back home.

Guess I am one of the luckier ones with no real issues with acceptance here.

Hey Trinilad!
You mentioned a $250.00 wedding!!!! How did you guys get such a good deal and can you please offer some tips? Thanks!


Wow, what happened?

Congrats to Texasbound!

And also congrats to the others who have been approved and/or received their visas!

I am sitting here totally bewildered.
So he comes to the US and he and your daughter do not get along intially. What happens after 3 months? Do you extend the lease and see how things go. I am going to put aside the whole fiance situation for a min and just deal with this from the perspective that I am not sure your jamaican fiance is trying you on for size so why are YOU trying him on for size?This is a life changing, give everything up and move scenario. We Americans have to understand that just because some Jamaicas are so keen to move here does not necessarily give us the right to encourage them to move from thier comfort zone while we try to work out these domestic situations. I am reading on here about people being afraid to face parents about thier decsions, or face family , or face children. There is a certain sequence of events that should take place before we get our foreign fiance's to make this major sacrifice and move to the United States. Getting the family, children , parents and the like on board is something that needs to be resolved BEFORE if they are that important. Cause if I am an Jamaican fiance and I move to the US and then have an American fiance tell me that either the kids, parents , friends, or the likes do not like me so I have to go back, I may not necessarily take it so nicely. Leave him in Jamaica until you are certain you are going to stick it out no matter what. When he moves here, it should be straight to your home, to your bed and whereever you are from the day he arrives.Besides the obvious problems with immigration, what kind of security are you providing him in this situation. If I was the Jamaican fiance and you came to me with a proposal like this............you will get a rather rude crash course in Jamaican patois and it would not sound good.

Yay, recieved TWO copies of packet 3 today!!!
Just scheduled my medical for next Tuesday!!

Don't go thinkin henry and i aren't around anymore!

We've been crazy with our recent move to the Tar Heel State (NC) and life just gets hectic! We've both got new jobs and we've bought a house. We close in June and I will get high speed. Then I'll be back on.

Good to see you shuttin down more threads!

Peace and Love

Darah