Thanks for saying that. I don't know if there is any ONE person that is "poisoning" the thread, but I really don't think its fair to say its the newbies. I'm not sure what classifys a newbie anyway....A person just starting the VJ process, a person with less than 4 or so squares, a person new in their relationship? I don't know where all the latest uproar has come from. I think we all need to just deal with the fact that everyone has their own opinions. This Yardie thread doesn't belong to the vets, or the newbies, it belongs to VJ and we are all just users and posters to it. Its hard to say things that aren't PC on here for fear that we might annoy someone. I can say that since I came on here, I have gotten tons of useful information. Whether from people sharing insight into their personal lives, or on my visa process. I also learn alot from people whose opinions are different than mine. I gotta say thats one of the biggest reasons why I love this thread.....the fact that not everyone has the same robotic thought process. I may not agree with some of the things said, but I dont have to, cause guess what that's life, thats America....freedom of speech.

Now if people are being offended in a personal way by what someone says, they should make it known to the person who offened them. We shouldnt all jump in and attack the original poster. We should try to understand why the OP made the comment in the first place. I truly dont think that anyone on THIS thread is malicious. You all seem to be good friends, your welcoming to us newcomers, and you're all very informative. Sometimes we may not all understand each other, and sometimes we may not always get along, but thats how it is with any genuine relationship.

If some of you feel the need to sign off, I can understand. It may be that the thread is very personal to your heart, and the negative energy can manifest in your daily lives....so to that I say good choice to sign off for awhile and keep yourself stress free and positive.

I think these tiffs come in waves, but we should just handle them with more respect and compassion.

Congratulations Jax! You sound like you're on cloud nine right now. Oh how i wish i was at that stage.

Hi guys,

AOS approved (via email) without interview 5/4/07.

Peace!

that's great!!! when did you file your paperwork??? just trying to see where i am in all this mess...

Beautifully said!


Wonderful news!!!!!!

Thanks for saying that. I don't know if there is any ONE person that is "poisoning" the thread, but I really don't think its fair to say its the newbies. I'm not sure what classifys a newbie anyway....A person just starting the VJ process, a person with less than 4 or so squares, a person new in their relationship? I don't know where all the latest uproar has come from. I think we all need to just deal with the fact that everyone has their own opinions. This Yardie thread doesn't belong to the vets, or the newbies, it belongs to VJ and we are all just users and posters to it. Its hard to say things that aren't PC on here for fear that we might annoy someone. I can say that since I came on here, I have gotten tons of useful information. Whether from people sharing insight into their personal lives, or on my visa process. I also learn alot from people whose opinions are different than mine. I gotta say thats one of the biggest reasons why I love this thread.....the fact that not everyone has the same robotic thought process. I may not agree with some of the things said, but I dont have to, cause guess what that's life, thats America....freedom of speech.

Now if people are being offended in a personal way by what someone says, they should make it known to the person who offened them. We shouldnt all jump in and attack the original poster. We should try to understand why the OP made the comment in the first place. I truly dont think that anyone on THIS thread is malicious. You all seem to be good friends, your welcoming to us newcomers, and you're all very informative. Sometimes we may not all understand each other, and sometimes we may not always get along, but thats how it is with any genuine relationship.

If some of you feel the need to sign off, I can understand. It may be that the thread is very personal to your heart, and the negative energy can manifest in your daily lives....so to that I say good choice to sign off for awhile and keep yourself stress free and positive.

I think these tiffs come in waves, but we should just handle them with more respect and compassion.
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I love how you posted this.

I *think* that "veteran" would be those of us that have been on here from 2005 and earlier.....if that IS the case, than I guess that "I" would be that "veteran" ..........if someone feels that way, whatever. For ALL of those that "feel" they need to leave..........I just don't get that. We NEED your valuable advice and PERSONAL experience, experiences !!!!!

Yes, IF someone has a beef with someone that contact THAT person personally, but if someone can't STEP UP to "confront someone", that's just sad. We are ALL adults with a TON of different opinions, values, experiences, in different parts of the world, oh gosh the list goes .....

"I" think that my honestly about MY relationship HAS helped many!!! Actually "I" know that for a fact that MY open-ness and NO BS has helped others......as I am also PM'd and emailed by many and the advice has helped me in soooo many ways !!!!

I have personally found this site to be VERY VERY valuable, both "negative" AND positive !!! and this does not affect my relationship, well wait, to be honest it actually HAS affected it .....but it's been positive for us !!!! I share what everyone says with Craig. He not once says we chat to much, but he takes it all in and it makes him understand that HE is not the only one that does, says, feels, experiences stuff by himself !!

The only thing that bothers me is the fact when someone makes a comment or opinion with an experience THEY have never actually experienced 1st hand !!!!!!

So pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease don't feel you have to leave !!!!!!!!!! I won't be leaving and if I don't like what is being said, etc etc I just move past that.

CONGRATS

Good points. My hope is that this thread continues on with it's purpose. Like I said before, it was bad enough when we (yardies) were being attacked when this thread was first created by other boardies (and the reason they were doing so I still don't understand) but now everyone here is starting in on each other. It's not about all of us being best friends here but dammit can we all try to do better? I'm sure there are so many people that either lurk or have joined VJ but won't step foot in here because they don't want part of the arguments, and who can blame them? Let's not rob others of what we've gained from this thread. Take care everyone.

oh jax i'm so thrilled for you! can't wait to hear all about it.

i'm sensing noa2 is coming for futuremrs and me soon. we've waited long enough!

Happy Saturday everyone! I hope you all do something pleasant today!
The sun is shining here and I'm hoping to finish writing these papers for class and for this nausea to pass so I can join in the Cinco de Mayo festivities

Yes Congrats!!!! ...all the approvals get to me, knowing I have been waiting almost a year

Congrats to Jax and JayandMars!
Lots of love to EVERYONE!
I am just wating for my NOA2, got touched twice. Graduation day looms near!
I found out that I don't need a sponsor, I was adding up the smaller numbers on my W2s, not the gross income. I still need the bank letter and something from Blockbuster, they are being such a PAIN! lol

And please don't leave ANYONE! This thread has been very helpful for me and keeps me SANE!



Denden: Hang in there!

So i finally got what i have been wanting for a long time....a PUPPY!!!!!!! it is the cutest likkle thing ever... it is a Jack Russel and Cocker Spaniel Mix...it is so cute....i wasn't sure how mike would react to it...he new for a long time i wanted one....and the price was right so i just got it....i know i ten to be a impulse shopper....but mike fell in love with it....it is soo cute to watch this little dog follow mike where ever he goes....pics soon come..

How cute...I want a shih tzu...one day

That's great, congratulations! It feels like it will be forever before we get to that stage. But then, it felt like it would be forever before we got to the interview stage and we're almost there. (Still feels like the interview is forever away, though. )

I don't think ANYONE should leave the board. I don't care whether I agree with you or not. But it doesn't make sense to let other people and other people's opinions run you from someplace. I don't think anyone would say that this thread has not been helpful. I think it continues to be helpful, no matter what stage you're in, even if you're completely finished with paperwork.

Oh well. Like I said, it's just words on a screen.

Ok I am bored here Dwain is at work and my company just left. At least my friend who came to visit said he would give me a ride to the airport. Yippee no taxi we will see if he can get his grandmas Car.

JLVR what are you up to tonight?

Nothing much, just playing some games. Should be doing some cleaning, but I'm not.

I understand not wanting to clean.

Oh you may want to think twice about this breed. They are veeerrry needy and the breed has a tendancy to eat is own poo! Hence the name Shih tzu...lol!

Oh you may want to think twice about this breed. They are veeerrry needy and the breed has a tendancy to eat is own poo! Hence the name Shih tzu...lol!

Really..I never heard of that. That would not be cool at all.

What?? Come again I can't wait to see pics Shauna

I know quite gross isn't it. The things you learn AFTER the fact. Whichever dog you do get, you should by a book that talks about the breed before hand. I personally have a mixed terrier that I got from the animal shelter. I do a lot of volunteer work with dogs. Sometimes the mixed "mutt" dogs in shelters are way better than the expensive pure breds. The problem with pure breds is that they are also in-bred. LOL! Think about sisters, brothers, cousins aunts and uncles all having children with each other for generations......there's gonna be a little bit of cookoo in the bunch.

Good morning. I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.

Marlita, that was my point..we can't blame everything on the newbies....No one has noticed that some newbies for gone for the the same reasons. We need their information and support. Most of the vets who are no longer on the thread left for various reasons a long time ago...not because this mess. Hopefully the vets and the newbies will return one day.

Like I said I will leave my other comments to myself because it won't be pretty. I will take that energy for something useful like helping a newie or supporting a vet.

Congrats Jayandmars...that was fast

Dee - I feel so bad that you're waiting so long.
The State Department does the same security checks as the FBI. I work in HR for the State Dept and I have to initiate new employees security clearances. The employment offer is tenative until they pass their security clearance which can take forever. My clearance took 16 months Luckily I was able to work in non-secure area while waiting...we can't offer that anymore. I have no idea why our clearance took so long during the AOS process because I had to add Damien's name to my clearance right after we got married because he is a foreign national. You never know with the good 'old gov'ment.
Good luck and hopefully something will come through soon...we're cheering for you

he is the cutest darn thing ever!!!! but i have a problem i can't think of a name for him....anyone has ideas??? i am adding the pics to my vj account...

ok well look at the pics in yahoo.....it is too early to figure out how to do it ahain on vj

Ditto!!! I think, at least for me, I come here because we all have something in common. I agree with what Shamonya, whats posted here dosen't/ shouldn't make or break your relationship, but because we have that one very important thing in common, it's easy( at least it should be) to put yourself in the other persons shoes, and at least for me try to experience what that person maybe feeling before I/we just post what ever comes to my mind without really thinking about it. Although I have never met any of you, after almost three years of posting, you get to know certian things-ways about the posters character and of course you respect the opinion of those who have been supportive of you through the years. I just tend to look over the rest. In defense to Shaymonia and In respose to the "vet" who is posining the thread. I'm trying not to call anyone out here, but I'll go head and say it. I feel that Kelly used the thread to get her point(s)n across to her husband.( you can call me and curse me out if you want ) It kinda started the whole thing. Although her inital post was by accident...There were newbies coming in at the same time who didn't really know all the Kelly had been through and for whatever reason felt that she was being whiney and generalizing toward JA men and there has been bickering every since. It's hard to put your dirty laundry out here in public eye, I commend her..I've done it also for it, sometimes things seem so bad....you feel at the time you don't have anyone to turn to...you/we think we can come here for support because we all have something in common but really almost you can't. People are too judemental ESP those who know nothing about you. I have made some really good friends. Some know more about me than family who see me on a daily basis. So just know that if I make a post or a response to something that's posted, it not meant to be judgemental, no relationship is without problems. We should all try to positive by supporting and encouraging one another and not forget the purpose of this site, I think it's great that it has become something more, but some are not here for that, they are here for information and that's it, for the friends I've made so far, I'm glad to have you, I am greatful for the support and Kelly I hope you haven't taken offense to my post. I'm glad things are changing for the better for you and Craig.

Mindy Bring your a$$ back here

Congrats Jayandmars

Ditto!!!

Getting Hungry been waiting to eat since this morning. Ackee Salt Fish soon come

Good thing my flight is delayed or I would of not gotten my breakfast... My mother inlaw bought all the stuff for us and my hubbys cousins mom is making it. Like tick tock.

Last JA food until Dec 08

congrats, on the approval!!!!! I can't belive that people would go to the embassy and not even know their wedding date. I have to start putting my binder together. I wouldn't have even known about a binder if it wasn't for VJ. tHANKS VJ

I am putting together all my forms and collecting the info needed to file my CR1 visa. I started filling out some of the forms, just to give myself practice and I came across some questions:

1. On the I-130 where it asks for your spouses address, what did you put? Evan has only given me a PO Box address in Negril, I'm not sure if he has a physical street address on his house. Did anyone else have this problem? It seems they ask for the "street" address a couple of times on this form and the G325a.

2. Did you fill out your forms by hand in ink, or did you fill them out on the computer?

3. Also on I130 # 15 do they want to know Evans current place of work information in Jamaica? Or is this question only if your spouse is currently working in the US?

Thanks guys

Ditto!!! I think, at least for me, I come here because we all have something in common. I agree with what Shamonya, whats posted here dosen't/ shouldn't make or break your relationship, but because we have that one very important thing in common, it's easy( at least it should be) to put yourself in the other persons shoes, and at least for me try to experience what that person maybe feeling before I/we just post what ever comes to my mind without really thinking about it. Although I have never met any of you, after almost three years of posting, you get to know certian things-ways about the posters character and of course you respect the opinion of those who have been supportive of you through the years. I just tend to look over the rest. In defense to Shaymonia and In respose to the "vet" who is posining the thread. I'm trying not to call anyone out here, but I'll go head and say it. I feel that Kelly used the thread to get her point(s)n across to her husband.( you can call me and curse me out if you want ) It kinda started the whole thing. Although her inital post was by accident...There were newbies coming in at the same time who didn't really know all the Kelly had been through and for whatever reason felt that she was being whiney and generalizing toward JA men and there has been bickering every since. It's hard to put your dirty laundry out here in public eye, I commend her..I've done it also for it, sometimes things seem so bad....you feel at the time you don't have anyone to turn to...you/we think we can come here for support because we all have something in common but really almost you can't. People are too judemental ESP those who know nothing about you. I have made some really good friends. Some know more about me than family who see me on a daily basis. So just know that if I make a post or a response to something that's posted, it not meant to be judgemental, no relationship is without problems. We should all try to positive by supporting and encouraging one another and not forget the purpose of this site, I think it's great that it has become something more, but some are not here for that, they are here for information and that's it, for the friends I've made so far, I'm glad to have you, I am greatful for the support and Kelly I hope you haven't taken offense to my post. I'm glad things are changing for the better for you and Craig.

Mindy Bring your a$$ back here
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Absolutely NO offense taken !!! Yes, what I posted was by accident, way back, but "I" know that I have helped more than the "newbies" really realize and yep, they were kindof right in the middle of all the mahem. Yep, I think some of it was kindof of "shocking", but I touched more relationships than I actually realized and it was nice to know that my relationship wasn't the ONLY one that had it's problems and similarities to others !!! I thank those that have been supportive and you know who you are !!

Great...i hope mine goes just as smoothly as yours is going im addicted too i cant stop reading

Dee - there's no need to defend me...I can speak for myself. I was referring to a few vets. It bothers me that some vets and newbies left because of the drama. I know some newbies left they felt like they were being attacked by vets. Hopefully they will all return soon.

I would hope our "job" as vets is to share our experiences....good or bad. Most people on here know that I have no problem sharing our experience...so far a positive one. I've made lots of good friends on here....met 4 VJers in person and plan to meet at least 3 more before the summer end. I talk to some weekly on the phone...we support each other. I wouldn't come here everyday if I felt like I wasn't contributing or needing support.

A lot of the Yardies men took ESL classes. Tony did He speaks excellent English, BUT his reading and writing skills needed a lot of improvement

Good point. I do think a lot of it depends on the cost of living. That's what really shocked Tony when he came here. Everyone makes more money BUT everything costs more too For instance Tony's rent for his 1 bedroom apt. in Jamaica was only $100 a month compared to our $1000 month mortgage here!!! The other thing that really gets to him is the high cost of all our insurances here - auto insurance, home-owners insurance, health insurance, etc.... He never had to worry about any of those things in JA.

Exactly. We NEVER had a problem with members leaving the Yardie thread before!!! NEVER.

Yes, yes, and yes I agree with you Kim completely!!! This thread has been around for a long time now. Recently we've lost alot of our Veterans due to mean, rude, and un-called for comments. If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all!!!

Good point. Unfortunately my neighborhood is 95% white Tony was/is the ONLY black person on the block! I am so thankful that he adjusted well and everyone is really nice and friendly to him. I think it helped that he worked in the tourism industry in Jamaica so he was surrounded by (mostly) white people every day!! Whenever we go out, we try to go to places that are more mixed though.

Congrats

Kim, please don't go Maybe we should start voting people off the island!!!!


I'm starting to see a common equation here and I don't like it at all. Jax, please don't go

Me and Tony can NOT agree on names We're going to wait until we find out the sex so at least that will cut our options in half!! Jax, do you mean hubby wants you to have a C-section if you get pregnant???

Yes, I agree It also helps the time go by when you're at work at 3am in the morning

Eeeeewwww Are you serious? That's gross!!!

1.) I think a LOT of us had that problem Many JA houses/apt. do NOT have street numbers. When Tony tried to tell me his address I kept telling him he was missing parts of it!!! I think I just put down whatever he gave me.

2.) I did all mine on the computer. It just looks neater and you can fit more in.

3.) They want to know your fiance/spouse current work info. in Jamaica.