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rhondapayter
QUOTE(jlvr @ May 3 2007, 08:25 PM) *
Isn't there an alien number on the NOA2? I thought so, but maybe I'm wrong.

Yes, I think there is. Good thinking good.gif
rhondapayter
QUOTE(kimlbs @ May 3 2007, 03:05 PM) *
So...he said that he came to America with so many expectations of how "foreign" was.....primarily based on what he heard or saw through television....even though I had gone over things a million times with him before he arrived, he says that once he arrived, he finally realized that everything was so different.....poverty to some degree was actually worse in America....our econony requires them to work three times harder than they ever worked back in Jamaica, everything is "on-hold" waiting for our crazy government to push the approved button......as a man, he felt helpless and unable to provide, eveything in the house was "mine" and he did not feel anything was "his home", he was homesick, missed his kids, missed his family, he was starting his life all over in a place where he knows nobody but me and has very little to offer me. This can make any man feel worthless and depressed...they kill their free time by doing studid stuff on the internet, sleeping, eating and basically being depressed while we go on and live our life as usual.....

Yes yes.gif Very well stated Kim. I've said it over and over again - the FIRST year is the absolute worst. Once they can get a job and start driving and regain some of their independance, it does get better. You really do have to pick your battles.

Just last weekend I woke up and our entire front lawn was all tore up ohmy.gif It looked like someone had chopped up the grass into small clumps and just left them lying there. It turns out, Tony took it upon himself to decide that we needed a new front lawn ohmy.gif So he chopped up all the grass. Now, he never even bothered to ask me about any of this. I started to get mad and then he said, It's my house too right??? I shut right up. We've fought way too many times because I feel the need to make all the decisions around the house. He used to do landscaping so he can lay the new sod by himself. It will only cost us whatever the sod costs. No labor costs. So I just shook my head and left it alone blush.gif
EBONY_SEAN
QUOTE(Sonshyne @ May 1 2007, 09:46 AM) *
QUOTE(rhondapayter @ May 1 2007, 12:28 AM) *
QUOTE(Sonshyne @ Apr 30 2007, 02:19 PM) *
Hey VJ Family!!!

I hope all the mommies to be feeling are begininng to feel a little better today yes.gif

Jax best wishes with your interview tomorrow good.gif

To the rest of the Yardies.... Wha gwaan??

Thanks Sonshyne blush.gif How is your Jamaican adjusting to life in the U.S.? What are his first impressions?


He is doing ok... He likes it here, it think I'm more worried about the adjustment then he is...he cut the lawn on Sunday with no shoes on ohmy.gif when he finshed, his feet were soooo green laughing.gif




that is great news at least he keeping busy.
EBONY_SEAN
QUOTE(nannygirl82 @ May 3 2007, 12:17 PM) *
well ladies i think the end has finally come....mike won't change his ways and when we were fighting this morning he asked me if i was going to call immigration to cancel his AOS and i said i thought about it...he said wow i see it clearly i better start acting right so i can get my green card....and i just let him go at that because that is all i needed to hear to basically confirm what i have been thinking for a month....not sure where to go from here or what i am going to do but it really sucks....

JAX best of luck to you!!






dammit i hate reading this kid of post. all we do and then they got the nerve to just be deceiving. does it really die that fast? hang in there girl we praying..
rhondapayter
Jax
Where are you girl?? Don't leave us hanging!!! no0pb.gif
EBONY_SEAN
QUOTE(luvtravlin @ May 3 2007, 07:25 PM) *
QUOTE(kimlbs @ May 3 2007, 03:05 PM) *
jlvr....You might consider rescheduling your trip next month to the actually date of interview. It is far better to actually attend the interview. In our case, they asked me most of the questions. Plus, the nerves are so crazy that he really need you at the interview to support him. Just my opinion....... whistling.gif

Shauna-Call me girl......I think the adjustment for many of these men is really hard and they begin to act up . Duane and I had a LONGGGGG talk last night...(considering the fact that we are both stressed about me possibly being pregnant) and he gave me a wonderful view into how he is actually feeling....so let me summarize for everyone so that each of us can learn something (especially for those of you that are in the stages of K-1 still:

So...he said that he came to America with so many expectations of how "foreign" was.....primarily based on what he heard or saw through television....even though I had gone over things a million times with him before he arrived, he says that once he arrived, he finally realized that everything was so different.....poverty to some degree was actually worse in America....our econony requires them to work three times harder than they ever worked back in Jamaica, everything is "on-hold" waiting for our crazy government to push the approved button......as a man, he felt helpless and unable to provide, eveything in the house was "mine" and he did not feel anything was "his home", he was homesick, missed his kids, missed his family, he was starting his life all over in a place where he knows nobody but me and has very little to offer me. This can make any man feel worthless and depressed...they kill their free time by doing studid stuff on the internet, sleeping, eating and basically being depressed while we go on and live our life as usual.....

Sooo....now after 10 months of being in this Country, he has finally started to understand my point of view. Our marriage is the main focus, making money to provide for us as a family and trying to save for all the good things like vacations, "new toys" and having good Christian values. He said that it has taken him months to finally get it....He realizes that the adjustment for both of us has been hard and he has acted extremely selfish at times because he only saw the impact that everything was having on him and NOT me........For the most part, we ALL would be kidding ourselves to think that these men did not see any opportunity in coming to America. There is more opportunity here than in Jamaica but for most of them.....this was not their primary goal or reason for coming...They did fall in love with us and most of these men truly do LOVE us and...they really want it to work out. They just do not know how to make it work in the beginning and it takes an incredibly amount of time, patience and energy......Now. some of you may not have had any of these adjustment problems and I admire you....I KNOW for a fact that Duane loves me to death and we have had some really tough times with this adjustment....this is HARD WORK......

So Miss Shauna.......ONLY YOU know how Mike truly feels about you and maybe you need to step back and really get in touch with those feelings. If you think this can be saved, hang tough......it does get better with time.....Duane has really worked hard to adjust and I would have kicked myself in the butt if I let him leave 4 months ago when I packed his SH.....ITTTT....So...hang in there girl..... good.gif



Kim..............EVERYTHING you had said is RIGHT ON THE MONEY, at least in "my/our" experience !!!!! Craig was bee-atching today about not having a job, not having money, not feeling like a man because HE can't help and WAA-LAA a call came in from a temp agency for him to work tomorrow and then another came in to start working at a hotel on Tuesday!!!! Craig does now (finally) help out around the house with dishes, laundry and making the bed.....it's a start.

I know that Craig loves me as well, we are both very much commited to each other. We "get into it" differently now. Those women days are gone and he FINALLY realizes that STUPID S**T will NOT get him anywhere but BACK to Jamaica. He did it ONLY for "the money"....whatever. His priorities have TOTALLY changed, for the better. Our relationship and the relationship he has with my son is SOOO much better.

Craig has been...this month will be 11 months !

Hey Shemonya, have you guys ever been to the Jerk Pit in College Park ?? We went there today....it was AWESOME!!! It's only about 25 min from our place. We met up with one of my clients out that way today and it was right around the corner. Thank god it's not closer, we'd go broke !!!

Shauna..........girl, I'm here for ya. He just needs a good ole butt -whoopin !!!







hey this is a suggestion....have any of who are having some marriagee problems ever thought about letting one man speak to another like maybe the guy who was felling messed up in the beginning with adjusting can speak to the one who is struggling now.
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(EBONY_SEAN @ May 4 2007, 12:04 PM) *
hey this is a suggestion....have any of who are having some marriagee problems ever thought about letting one man speak to another like maybe the guy who was felling messed up in the beginning with adjusting can speak to the one who is struggling now.

Sound like a good idea, but some men hate their 'business' being discussed outside!!
But might be an idea maybe to say to him 'oh I know this other couple where the guy is from Jamaica, why don't you call him and ask him for tips on living abroad?'
darlene
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 12:26 AM) *
QUOTE(darlene @ May 3 2007, 06:22 PM) *
I am so sorry things are not working out. What the heck is wrong with these men??? How quickly they forget where they come from! I am here for you....

Could you clarify this??


What is it that you do not understand this statement?
Sonshyne
QUOTE(nannygirl82 @ May 3 2007, 09:17 AM) *
well ladies i think the end has finally come....mike won't change his ways and when we were fighting this morning he asked me if i was going to call immigration to cancel his AOS and i said i thought about it...he said wow i see it clearly i better start acting right so i can get my green card....and i just let him go at that because that is all i needed to hear to basically confirm what i have been thinking for a month....not sure where to go from here or what i am going to do but it really sucks....

JAX best of luck to you!!


Sorry to hear this rose.gif rose.gif
sjb1221
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 12:26 AM) *
QUOTE(darlene @ May 3 2007, 06:22 PM) *
I am so sorry things are not working out. What the heck is wrong with these men??? How quickly they forget where they come from! I am here for you....

Could you clarify this??


unsure.gif I was wondering the same thing....

darlene
QUOTE(sjb1221 @ May 4 2007, 08:48 AM) *
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 12:26 AM) *
QUOTE(darlene @ May 3 2007, 06:22 PM) *
I am so sorry things are not working out. What the heck is wrong with these men??? How quickly they forget where they come from! I am here for you....

Could you clarify this??


unsure.gif I was wondering the same thing....



Okay, America is the land of opportunity. You can come here and make a decent wage and not worry about where you next meal is coming from. You do not have to work 6 days a week for $60. You have an opportunity to continue your education if you so choose and get a better job. There is so much more offered here. And the fact of everything that had to be done to get them here. And the cost.....
It is not a derogatory remark.
I do envy Jamaicans for their sense of family and respect. Something that is lacking here.
Just like someone who came from nothing, makes a zillion dollars and forgets where it all began.
Sonshyne
QUOTE(missjones @ May 3 2007, 12:06 PM) *
yes.gif Hey Everyone,

I have decided to delete my VJ account today due to some issues from another thread. I strongly believe that some people on this site are very disrespectful and take pleasure in making others feel stupid. This is supposed to be an informational site and no one should feel stupid or be-littled (sp?) in any way. It really upsets me the way posts are being replied to and even when I first joined VJ, I was a little shocked at the way my posts were being answered. I don't like being disrespected, nor do I like to watch others being disrespected. I clearly indicated this in the thread "Do You Treat People The Same As Online" (Off Topic Form) and apparently someone took my comments as well as others as threatening.



Don't go miss Jones hang around, this website has so much info to offer. Just stick to the yardie thread. We are very supportive of each other here. Not everyone is going to agree ALL the time but we do respect each other.
Sonshyne
Good morning Yardie Family Happy Friday!!!

Jax we're waiting on the good news!!
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(darlene @ May 4 2007, 01:57 PM) *
QUOTE(sjb1221 @ May 4 2007, 08:48 AM) *
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 12:26 AM) *
QUOTE(darlene @ May 3 2007, 06:22 PM) *
I am so sorry things are not working out. What the heck is wrong with these men??? How quickly they forget where they come from! I am here for you....

Could you clarify this??


unsure.gif I was wondering the same thing....



Okay, America is the land of opportunity. You can come here and make a decent wage and not worry about where you next meal is coming from. You do not have to work 6 days a week for $60. You have an opportunity to continue your education if you so choose and get a better job. There is so much more offered here. And the fact of everything that had to be done to get them here. And the cost.....
It is not a derogatory remark.
I do envy Jamaicans for their sense of family and respect. Something that is lacking here.
Just like someone who came from nothing, makes a zillion dollars and forgets where it all began.


America is the land of opportunity for SOME. Opportunity to get a degree, have a good job, continue education is also available for SOME in Jamaica. TO YOU 'so much more is offered here'. TO ME, and to some people from Jamaica, America does NOT offer more!!
'More' is subjective according to what you were used to in Jamaica.
To me, that statement sounds like 'he should be eternally grateful that some woman plucked him out of poverty, not knowing where his next meal was coming from, working six days a week, to live in the Promised Land'.

Now, NOT FOR ONE second do I condone Nannygirl's husband's actions. But your statement was wrong.
You may not have meant it that way, but that's how it sounded to me and others who have pm'd me on this issue.
Now, I am NOT looking for an argument, NOT trying to put you down, I am merely pointing out how your statement comes across. If I were married to someone who presumed I had to 'remember where I was coming from' or even insinuated that, I would be GONE.
luvtravlin
hey this is a suggestion....have any of who are having some marriagee problems ever thought about letting one man speak to another like maybe the guy who was felling messed up in the beginning with adjusting can speak to the one who is struggling now.
[/quote]


Been there, done that WAAAAAY to many times!!! I have a male Jamaican friend (who is 10 yrs older than Craig) that I've known from Negril for 10yrs that lives here in Maryland (12 miles from us) and Craig "knew" of him before he came here ...from the guys on the beach in Negril. Mophead (my friend) has spoken to Craig a TON of times and the "talks" worked for a couple of days and then Craig would go back to his BS because he spoke to his cousin or friends (in Jamaica) !!!

Craig and Mike (Shauna's man) .....TALK..... and yesterday Craig was way ticked and called Mike and had a SERIOUS heart to heart with him....but Mike had to hear from a guy who has been here (6 months longer than him), who has "been there, done that". Now it may just be a "quick fix", but .....it was someone that he could lean on.

For the newbies..........I truly do feel that if there is a Jamaican man (of course a positive influence) here, that has been here for a little bit or better yet, has gone through the process already that your man could "lean on" when he gets here, would help tremendously !!! Just think 'bout it ....

TGIF !!!!!!!!!! The weather is supposed to be gorgeous here this weekend !!! Great soccer weather ;o) !!!



luvtravlin
America is the land of opportunity for SOME. Opportunity to get a degree, have a good job, continue education is also available for SOME in Jamaica. TO YOU 'so much more is offered here'. TO ME, and to some people from Jamaica, America does NOT offer more!!
'More' is subjective according to what you were used to in Jamaica.
To me, that statement sounds like 'he should be eternally grateful that some woman plucked him out of poverty, not knowing where his next meal was coming from, working six days a week, to live in the Promised Land'.

Now, NOT FOR ONE second do I condone Nannygirl's husband's actions. But your statement was wrong.
You may not have meant it that way, but that's how it sounded to me and others who have pm'd me on this issue.
Now, I am NOT looking for an argument, NOT trying to put you down, I am merely pointing out how your statement comes across. If I were married to someone who presumed I had to 'remember where I was coming from' or even insinuated that, I would be GONE.
[/quote]


Now easy girlfriend....

When we went to the Jamaican little restaurant there, I was chatting with the Jamaican girl taking our order. We talked about Jamaica, where she's from (didn't think Craig was Jamaican until she asked where we were both from), we talked about travel and she asked me for a business card, than SHE SAID, it's so nice and I love it when women go to Jamaica on vacation and bring back a man to HELP HIM !!! I said, oh this isn't 'bout helping him, we truly love each other. She said to Craig, you better treat your woman with TOTAL respect, do not get caught up in the AMERICAN ways and it seems like you met a great gal here!!

When we got in the car, I laughed and said, that's just funny how they (the folks that "I" have come in contact with) think that WE bring you guys here JUST to help you !!! Craig's mom thanks me ALL of the time for HELPING HIM to come here. I sometimes get annoyed by that, but ....she doesn't "get it" since she's never been here. From MY own personal experience, they **think** we are helping to bring them here *just* to help them. I told Craig, yeah, in a way I did help him and I'm happy that he gets to live in a place he really likes AND has more opportunities. Craig LOVES it here and would NEVER move back !! He said he wants to go **JUST** to go on vacation.



JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(luvtravlin @ May 4 2007, 03:22 PM) *
Now easy girlfriend....

When we went to the Jamaican little restaurant there, I was chatting with the Jamaican girl taking our order. We talked about Jamaica, where she's from (didn't think Craig was Jamaican until she asked where we were both from), we talked about travel and she asked me for a business card, than SHE SAID, it's so nice and I love it when women go to Jamaica on vacation and bring back a man to HELP HIM !!! I said, oh this isn't 'bout helping him, we truly love each other. She said to Craig, you better treat your woman with TOTAL respect, do not get caught up in the AMERICAN ways and it seems like you met a great gal here!!

When we got in the car, I laughed and said, that's just funny how they (the folks that "I" have come in contact with) think that WE bring you guys here JUST to help you !!! Craig's mom thanks me ALL of the time for HELPING HIM to come here. I sometimes get annoyed by that, but ....she doesn't "get it" since she's never been here. From MY own personal experience, they **think** we are helping to bring them here *just* to help them. I told Craig, yeah, in a way I did help him and I'm happy that he gets to live in a place he really likes AND has more opportunities. Craig LOVES it here and would NEVER move back !! He said he wants to go **JUST** to go on vacation.


Obviously for CRAIG, America is the land of opportunity!!
Jengles


Question??

While the men are waiting for AOS, can't they get into a training program or something. To keep them busy. I've already found three programs for him to do while he gets his AOS. One being his GED, which I found out last night he can get for free. He wanted to try and find a job right a way but I told him no, it's better to get that piece of paper first.

Now I'm not talking about two and three year programs. If every thing goes well, he'll be up here while i'm on maternity leave so we will have some stay at home time together.

Your posts have been very helpful. Just from reading your posts, have helped me talk about certain subjects with him in regards to when he comes here. As to him being/feeling independent. he has an independant income in JA that can help him when he comes as to paying for one of his training programs and bringing money to help out. So I hope it works out because of course he feels no need to rush about anything
jlvr
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 12:34 PM) *
Question??

While the men are waiting for AOS, can't they get into a training program or something. To keep them busy. I've already found three programs for him to do while he gets his AOS. One being his GED, which I found out last night he can get for free. He wanted to try and find a job right a way but I told him no, it's better to get that piece of paper first.

Now I'm not talking about two and three year programs. If every thing goes well, he'll be up here while i'm on maternity leave so we will have some stay at home time together.

Your posts have been very helpful. Just from reading your posts, have helped me talk about certain subjects with him in regards to when he comes here. As to him being/feeling independent. he has an independant income in JA that can help him when he comes as to paying for one of his training programs and bringing money to help out. So I hope it works out because of course he feels no need to rush about anything

That sounds like a great idea. Someone in a thread down below mentioned ESL classes and I thought it wasn't necessary because they are English speakers, but that might actually be good for them.
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 05:34 PM) *
Question??

While the men are waiting for AOS, can't they get into a training program or something. To keep them busy. I've already found three programs for him to do while he gets his AOS. One being his GED, which I found out last night he can get for free. He wanted to try and find a job right a way but I told him no, it's better to get that piece of paper first.

Now I'm not talking about two and three year programs. If every thing goes well, he'll be up here while i'm on maternity leave so we will have some stay at home time together.

Your posts have been very helpful. Just from reading your posts, have helped me talk about certain subjects with him in regards to when he comes here. As to him being/feeling independent. he has an independant income in JA that can help him when he comes as to paying for one of his training programs and bringing money to help out. So I hope it works out because of course he feels no need to rush about anything

I am kind of getting worried now, I went to school in Jamaica, and even though I have 10 years law enforcement experience, I am wondering if they accept CXC (Caribbean Examinations Council) passes as equivalent to GED??
I also finished a year in university but didn't finish my degree.....

Would be interested to hear if anyone's spouse's Jamaican qualification was accepted?
darlene
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 10:05 AM) *
QUOTE(darlene @ May 4 2007, 01:57 PM) *
QUOTE(sjb1221 @ May 4 2007, 08:48 AM) *
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 12:26 AM) *
QUOTE(darlene @ May 3 2007, 06:22 PM) *
I am so sorry things are not working out. What the heck is wrong with these men??? How quickly they forget where they come from! I am here for you....

Could you clarify this??


unsure.gif I was wondering the same thing....



Okay, America is the land of opportunity. You can come here and make a decent wage and not worry about where you next meal is coming from. You do not have to work 6 days a week for $60. You have an opportunity to continue your education if you so choose and get a better job. There is so much more offered here. And the fact of everything that had to be done to get them here. And the cost.....
It is not a derogatory remark.
I do envy Jamaicans for their sense of family and respect. Something that is lacking here.
Just like someone who came from nothing, makes a zillion dollars and forgets where it all began.


America is the land of opportunity for SOME. Opportunity to get a degree, have a good job, continue education is also available for SOME in Jamaica. TO YOU 'so much more is offered here'. TO ME, and to some people from Jamaica, America does NOT offer more!!
'More' is subjective according to what you were used to in Jamaica.
To me, that statement sounds like 'he should be eternally grateful that some woman plucked him out of poverty, not knowing where his next meal was coming from, working six days a week, to live in the Promised Land'.

Now, NOT FOR ONE second do I condone Nannygirl's husband's actions. But your statement was wrong.
You may not have meant it that way, but that's how it sounded to me and others who have pm'd me on this issue.
Now, I am NOT looking for an argument, NOT trying to put you down, I am merely pointing out how your statement comes across. If I were married to someone who presumed I had to 'remember where I was coming from' or even insinuated that, I would be GONE.



If you struggled most of your life and then had the opportunity to better yourself and get things more easily would you forget your struggles? My life was far from perfect but I did not forget about that and I do not forget the people who helped me turn things around.

Yes I know several Jamaicans who want nothing to do with America. I also know several who are here or are trying to get here. Just like there are Americans who who not leave here. And no it was not meant to be read as you in YOUR opinion stated that they should be eternally grateful to be plucked out of poverty. It is just they should not forget how it was and how it now is.
It is nice to have the name brand sneakers and jeans.

Maybe you have a lot of money and these expenses and the ones to come will not affect you life but it has for most of us or excuse me, I will speak for myself.

I have to say I have been extremely lucky. My husband has been on his own since he was 20. He knew there was no way he would be able to get his own home in Jamaica if he stayed there so for the last 14 years he has worked on most Norwegian Cruise Line. 9 to 10 month contracts, working 7 days a week, minimum 10 hours a day for, (when he left last year,) making $900 a month. That is almost 4 times as much as he would make in Jamaica and yes, he was able to purchase his land and pay for it in full. He was able to help his sister with university. He helped his mom and dad. He took advantage of an opportunity but he got burned out.

Now he is here. He is thankful for this opportunity. He is making $1800 a month and working about 80 hours less per week. He will be sending money home and having his house built. He will be able to have it built and furnished and paid in full when we are ready to go home to Jamaica.
Would he have this opportunity in Jamaica? Probably but he would not have a 4 bedroom, 4 bath home with a pool. Could he have done staying on the cruise ship? Probably but would he have been physically able to enjoy it? Probably not.

He realizes all that was done for him and he is eternally grateful.

All I was trying to say is that people forget where they came from and expect more. And they forget the people who helped them get there.

Aren't you the one who totally trashed Jamaican men???? And if you are Jamaican why are you living in the UK? And why are you moving to the US???

Thank you Yardies for all your help with my process. It is over now for a couple of years and so I will sign off this site.

Good luck to everyone.

Jengles
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 12:47 PM) *
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 05:34 PM) *
Question??

While the men are waiting for AOS, can't they get into a training program or something. To keep them busy. I've already found three programs for him to do while he gets his AOS. One being his GED, which I found out last night he can get for free. He wanted to try and find a job right a way but I told him no, it's better to get that piece of paper first.

Now I'm not talking about two and three year programs. If every thing goes well, he'll be up here while i'm on maternity leave so we will have some stay at home time together.

Your posts have been very helpful. Just from reading your posts, have helped me talk about certain subjects with him in regards to when he comes here. As to him being/feeling independent. he has an independant income in JA that can help him when he comes as to paying for one of his training programs and bringing money to help out. So I hope it works out because of course he feels no need to rush about anything

I am kind of getting worried now, I went to school in Jamaica, and even though I have 10 years law enforcement experience, I am wondering if they accept CXC (Caribbean Examinations Council) passes as equivalent to GED??
I also finished a year in university but didn't finish my degree.....

Would be interested to hear if anyone's spouse's Jamaican qualification was accepted?


My cousin works for ny transit and she suggested he get his ged because they dont't accept other qualifications. and I actually spoke to someone last night who took the ged class and she said it was a big help, because she had applied to college before and she finished high school in barbados and she didn't get thru she said she applied again after she got her ged and she had no problem. I'm assuming a ged combined with a high school degree from the west indies got her in.

Jengles

Darlene,

Not for nothing, but I think life anywhere is what u make it. My husband stayed in JA and has his two family house and taxi. $1800.00 a month isn't that great when u look at salaries in the USA. yes compared to JA it is very good but maybe the cost of living is lower where u live.


just my two cents
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(darlene @ May 4 2007, 06:13 PM) *
All I was trying to say is that people forget where they came from and expect more. And they forget the people who helped them get there.

Aren't you the one who totally trashed Jamaican men???? And if you are Jamaican why are you living in the UK? And why are you moving to the US???

Thank you Yardies for all your help with my process. It is over now for a couple of years and so I will sign off this site.

Good luck to everyone.

I see.

I suggest you get your facts straight before you accuse me of 'trashing' Jamaican men.
Actually, I am English.
Suprisingly enough I am moving to the US for LOVE wink.gif


QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 06:19 PM) *
My cousin works for ny transit and she suggested he get his ged because they dont't accept other qualifications. and I actually spoke to someone last night who took the ged class and she said it was a big help, because she had applied to college before and she finished high school in barbados and she didn't get thru she said she applied again after she got her ged and she had no problem. I'm assuming a ged combined with a high school degree from the west indies got her in.

Wow, yet ANOTHER thing I'll have to get!!!
Thanks for the info!!
Jengles
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 01:34 PM) *
QUOTE(darlene @ May 4 2007, 06:13 PM) *
All I was trying to say is that people forget where they came from and expect more. And they forget the people who helped them get there.

Aren't you the one who totally trashed Jamaican men???? And if you are Jamaican why are you living in the UK? And why are you moving to the US???

Thank you Yardies for all your help with my process. It is over now for a couple of years and so I will sign off this site.

Good luck to everyone.

I see.

I suggest you get your facts straight before you accuse me of 'trashing' Jamaican men.
Actually, I am English.
Suprisingly enough I am moving to the US for LOVE wink.gif


QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 06:19 PM) *
My cousin works for ny transit and she suggested he get his ged because they dont't accept other qualifications. and I actually spoke to someone last night who took the ged class and she said it was a big help, because she had applied to college before and she finished high school in barbados and she didn't get thru she said she applied again after she got her ged and she had no problem. I'm assuming a ged combined with a high school degree from the west indies got her in.

Wow, yet ANOTHER thing I'll have to get!!!
Thanks for the info!!


I'm not sure if you will need it coming from england. I'm from england and I don't recall any of my relatives having problems when applying to jobs.
luvtravlin
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 12:47 PM) *
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 05:34 PM) *
Question??

While the men are waiting for AOS, can't they get into a training program or something. To keep them busy. I've already found three programs for him to do while he gets his AOS. One being his GED, which I found out last night he can get for free. He wanted to try and find a job right a way but I told him no, it's better to get that piece of paper first.

Now I'm not talking about two and three year programs. If every thing goes well, he'll be up here while i'm on maternity leave so we will have some stay at home time together.

Your posts have been very helpful. Just from reading your posts, have helped me talk about certain subjects with him in regards to when he comes here. As to him being/feeling independent. he has an independant income in JA that can help him when he comes as to paying for one of his training programs and bringing money to help out. So I hope it works out because of course he feels no need to rush about anything

I am kind of getting worried now, I went to school in Jamaica, and even though I have 10 years law enforcement experience, I am wondering if they accept CXC (Caribbean Examinations Council) passes as equivalent to GED??
I also finished a year in university but didn't finish my degree.....

Would be interested to hear if anyone's spouse's Jamaican qualification was accepted?



My friend told me his Jamaican schooling didn't mean squat when it came to getting a job here in the US and he had to get a GED. I would HIGHLY recommend, if you can swing it (meaning him getting to and from) getting him into any type of programs. Craig really wants to get into Air conditioning stuff .....but needs a GED for the place that he's interested in. It's just about finding the time..... Also with **some** they aren't the best at reading and writing. Craig can do both, although slow, but when he came here I made a bunch of blank copies of employment applications and helped him so that he knows how to fill them out correctly. This may sound childish, but I have some 1st and 2nd grade learning books that I've kept over the years and a phonics typing thing and Craig said that helps him ALOT.

So any "extra" positive programs/educational stuff like that.............definitely !!!!








JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 06:43 PM) *
I'm not sure if you will need it coming from england. I'm from england and I don't recall any of my relatives having problems when applying to jobs.

I went to school in Jamaica....no school at all here in the UK.....so guess they`ll apply the same principle to me as someone from Jamaica
luvtravlin
I suggest you get your facts straight before you accuse me of 'trashing' Jamaican men.
Actually, I am English.
Suprisingly enough I am moving to the US for LOVE wink.gif



Come on.................lighten up !!!! This is exactly WHY we've lost ladies (and maybe some men) from this thread !!! That's awesome that you ARE coming here for love...............but................please remember we are **mostly** talking about the "JA" MEN !!!!!!!!!!!

Just an FYI, here in our area (of Maryland) Craig not having a GED, has not prevented him from getting a job. He's applied (and has received) jobs from 4 different temp agencies ...not once have any asked about schooling. Just the technolgy school he wants to go to.

darlene
[Actually, I am English.


You are in the wrong forum. You should be in the United Kingdom forum!
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(luvtravlin @ May 4 2007, 07:00 PM) *
Come on.................lighten up !!!! This is exactly WHY we've lost ladies (and maybe some men) from this thread !!! That's awesome that you ARE coming here for love...............but................please remember we are **mostly** talking about the "JA" MEN !!!!!!!!!!!

As for lightening up, I tried to highlight the fact I was not trying to cause an argument etc, but trying insinuate I trash Jamaican men isn't something I feel I should ignore...

This is how I see things.
You meet, you fall in love.
You 'happen' to live in America, so because the both of you decide it is better for him to come there, SO YOU CAN BE TOGETHER, the plan is for him to come to America.
It is not, in my opinion, you meet, you love him so decide 'I live in America but England would be fantastic for him, I'll buy him a ticket there so he has a better life'.
No, you filed for him because you wanted to be TOGETHER!
So he should be thankful for your LOVE, for the HASSLE you went through, NOT because you filed for him!
It's like him living in NY and you living in California and one of you moving, not you PRIMARILY giving him a chance at a better life, but BECAUSE you love him, being together!




QUOTE(darlene @ May 4 2007, 07:07 PM) *
[Actually, I am English.


You are in the wrong forum. You should be in the United Kingdom forum!

Oh damn....didn't realise I wasn't allowed here...ah well!!

QUOTE(luvtravlin @ May 4 2007, 07:00 PM) *
Just an FYI, here in our area (of Maryland) Craig not having a GED, has not prevented him from getting a job. He's applied (and has received) jobs from 4 different temp agencies ...not once have any asked about schooling. Just the technolgy school he wants to go to.

That's nice to know, since I'll be moving to DC/MD!!!
kimlbs
ENOUGH.......What has this thread become????........ It sure was not created three years ago to have people be nasty and rude to each other for spreading "their" experiences!!! We all come to this thread in different stages, different experiences, different lifestyles and we SHARE!!!

We certainly do not pick over peoples posts and make them personal......IF you are here for that than GO AWAY!!! This site has been a wonderful thing for many people.....me included. I NEVER dreamed that I would be experiecing some of the things that I have gone through and the words of wisdom from others have helped emensely.

Alien.....you have a different experience than all of us because we are mostly dealing with JA men...like Kelly said...your experiences are helpful to anyone who has a similar situation......PLEASE Stop the the attacks....we have lost too many veterans who started this post because new people come on here and ruin it...I left for many months because I was sick of some of the same stuff......

ALSO......we have no right to judge anyone. Telling Nanny that YOU would toss him on the street if it was YOU...HELLO??? And telling Kelly that Craig is here for opportunities.....Is all this necessary??? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Stop this NOW or LEAVE the yardies thread.....

Darlene......Stay around lady...we will clean up this thread and make it back to what it use dto be and what it was originally intende to be when Ms. Squito created it.....

JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(kimlbs @ May 4 2007, 07:17 PM) *
ALSO......we have no right to judge anyone. Telling Nanny that YOU would toss him on the street if it was YOU...HELLO???

So to tell Nannygirl I respected her for her patience and that I would have tossed him on the street was JUDGING her?????????????????????
kimlbs
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 11:19 AM) *
QUOTE(kimlbs @ May 4 2007, 07:17 PM) *
ALSO......we have no right to judge anyone. Telling Nanny that YOU would toss him on the street if it was YOU...HELLO???

So to tell Nannygirl I respected her for her patience and that I would have tossed him on the street was JUDGING her?????????????????????

STOP IT already.....Please grow up!
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(kimlbs @ May 4 2007, 07:17 PM) *
And telling Kelly that Craig is here for opportunities.....

Please DO show me WHERE I told Kelly that Craig is here for opportunity??????????????????????

I suggest YOU refrain from attacking ME and READ what I've written.



QUOTE(kimlbs @ May 4 2007, 07:20 PM) *
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 11:19 AM) *
QUOTE(kimlbs @ May 4 2007, 07:17 PM) *
ALSO......we have no right to judge anyone. Telling Nanny that YOU would toss him on the street if it was YOU...HELLO???

So to tell Nannygirl I respected her for her patience and that I would have tossed him on the street was JUDGING her?????????????????????

STOP IT already.....Please grow up!


Another mature, educated response.... whistling.gif
Jengles


I have a question about the medical. so far we have gotten approval and a case number from NVC but nothing from kingston. I'm going down in JA in two weeks and would like him to do the medical while i'm there. Is the medical just blood testing and testing for immunizations?? Can he get the shots from his doctor and take them to the Medical. I'm asking because i belive i read that if he needs shots that he has to pay extra. and most important question if we don't get an interview date and I bring the letter from the NVC is that enough for them to see him or should he just wait until he gets the notice from the embassy?

Thanks!
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 07:35 PM) *
I have a question about the medical. so far we have gotten approval and a case number from NVC but nothing from kingston. I'm going down in JA in two weeks and would like him to do the medical while i'm there. Is the medical just blood testing and testing for immunizations?? Can he get the shots from his doctor and take them to the Medical. I'm asking because i belive i read that if he needs shots that he has to pay extra. and most important question if we don't get an interview date and I bring the letter from the NVC is that enough for them to see him or should he just wait until he gets the notice from the embassy?

Thanks!

He can definitely get his shots and take proof to the medical. To book the medical, you`ll need the embassy reference number. If you keep calling the State Department on 1 202 663 1225, as soon as the Embassy input his case, they will give you the reference number and you can book the medical. There`s a medical questionnaire that is online that you can print that he`ll need to take with him.
finesse
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 01:35 PM) *
I have a question about the medical. so far we have gotten approval and a case number from NVC but nothing from kingston. I'm going down in JA in two weeks and would like him to do the medical while i'm there. Is the medical just blood testing and testing for immunizations?? Can he get the shots from his doctor and take them to the Medical. I'm asking because i belive i read that if he needs shots that he has to pay extra. and most important question if we don't get an interview date and I bring the letter from the NVC is that enough for them to see him or should he just wait until he gets the notice from the embassy?

Thanks!


He will need the interview letter in order to make the appointment for the medical.
Jengles

thanks for the responses, I'll tell him to go to his doctor and see about the shots before I get there
finesse
QUOTE(finesse @ May 4 2007, 01:47 PM) *
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 01:35 PM) *
I have a question about the medical. so far we have gotten approval and a case number from NVC but nothing from kingston. I'm going down in JA in two weeks and would like him to do the medical while i'm there. Is the medical just blood testing and testing for immunizations?? Can he get the shots from his doctor and take them to the Medical. I'm asking because i belive i read that if he needs shots that he has to pay extra. and most important question if we don't get an interview date and I bring the letter from the NVC is that enough for them to see him or should he just wait until he gets the notice from the embassy?

Thanks!


He will need the interview letter in order to make the appointment for the medical.


We tried to book the medical with just our reference number and the woman on the phone said no appointment without the letter........so i guess it just depends on who answers the phone and what kind of mood they are in. We are just going to wait for the letter so we have no problems when we get there...
finesse
since we are discussing shots.........my fiance has no shot records..so should he go to his local doctor to get all the shots (i'm thinking it might be cheaper this way)...or wait til the medical and get them then? will the local doc know which ones he needs? any thoughts?
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(finesse @ May 4 2007, 08:03 PM) *
since we are discussing shots.........my fiance has no shot records..so should he go to his local doctor to get all the shots (i'm thinking it might be cheaper this way)...or wait til the medical and get them then? will the local doc know which ones he needs? any thoughts?

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_1331.html
Jengles
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 03:11 PM) *
QUOTE(finesse @ May 4 2007, 08:03 PM) *
since we are discussing shots.........my fiance has no shot records..so should he go to his local doctor to get all the shots (i'm thinking it might be cheaper this way)...or wait til the medical and get them then? will the local doc know which ones he needs? any thoughts?

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_1331.html


AliienUKGirl

thanks for the link - that's a lot of shots he's going to need

Finesse

I'm thinking the same thing that it would be cheaper for him to go to his regular doctor
jlvr
I feel like I have to comment. I don't think that AlienUKGirl has been attacking at all.

I think that some of the comments seem to come from the perspective that life in Jamaica is hard and horrible and that people there will do anything to come to the US. Interestingly, though, people seem to get upset when people in their real lives assume that their mate is marrying them for opportunity. You can't have it both ways.

Yes, life in Jamaica is difficult for people that are poor. But not everyone there is poor. Not everyone there is suffering from a lack of education and opportunity.

Life in the US is difficult for people that are poor and many people do not have education or opportunity.

There are many generalized statements that are made that are hurtful. If you refuse to see it or acknowledge it, fine. There are some people in this thread that are Jamaican and will be offended. And will comment on it.

I would advise that anyone that feels they are giving their mate an opportunity that they should be grateful for, examine your relationship, because it is most certainly not starting out on an equal footing. And then come the questions about why they feel like less of a man.

Just my two cents, if it's a problem, oh well.
nyseness
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 11:47 AM) *
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 05:34 PM) *
Question??

While the men are waiting for AOS, can't they get into a training program or something. To keep them busy. I've already found three programs for him to do while he gets his AOS. One being his GED, which I found out last night he can get for free. He wanted to try and find a job right a way but I told him no, it's better to get that piece of paper first.

Now I'm not talking about two and three year programs. If every thing goes well, he'll be up here while i'm on maternity leave so we will have some stay at home time together.

Your posts have been very helpful. Just from reading your posts, have helped me talk about certain subjects with him in regards to when he comes here. As to him being/feeling independent. he has an independant income in JA that can help him when he comes as to paying for one of his training programs and bringing money to help out. So I hope it works out because of course he feels no need to rush about anything

I am kind of getting worried now, I went to school in Jamaica, and even though I have 10 years law enforcement experience, I am wondering if they accept CXC (Caribbean Examinations Council) passes as equivalent to GED??
I also finished a year in university but didn't finish my degree.....

Would be interested to hear if anyone's spouse's Jamaican qualification was accepted?



My brother-in-law in JA was a dectective at the Ocho Rios Police Dept. When he came here he took classes and obtained his Pharmacy Technican certificate w/o going for add'l GED classes. He was accepted w/his CSC cert. He nows works at Caremark Rx (PBM) as a Benefit Administrator and makes good money. He is also an Assistant Manager at Kinko's (he worked himself up). I think it just depends on the individual.
sjb1221
QUOTE(jlvr @ May 4 2007, 03:24 PM) *
I feel like I have to comment. I don't think that AlienUKGirl has been attacking at all.

I think that some of the comments seem to come from the perspective that life in Jamaica is hard and horrible and that people there will do anything to come to the US. Interestingly, though, people seem to get upset when people in their real lives assume that their mate is marrying them for opportunity. You can't have it both ways.

Yes, life in Jamaica is difficult for people that are poor. But not everyone there is poor. Not everyone there is suffering from a lack of education and opportunity.

Life in the US is difficult for people that are poor and many people do not have education or opportunity.

There are many generalized statements that are made that are hurtful. If you refuse to see it or acknowledge it, fine. There are some people in this thread that are Jamaican and will be offended. And will comment on it.

I would advise that anyone that feels they are giving their mate an opportunity that they should be grateful for, examine your relationship, because it is most certainly not starting out on an equal footing. And then come the questions about why they feel like less of a man.

Just my two cents, if it's a problem, oh well.


good.gif I agree. Well said.
Jengles
QUOTE(nyseness @ May 4 2007, 03:29 PM) *
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 11:47 AM) *
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 05:34 PM) *
Question??

While the men are waiting for AOS, can't they get into a training program or something. To keep them busy. I've already found three programs for him to do while he gets his AOS. One being his GED, which I found out last night he can get for free. He wanted to try and find a job right a way but I told him no, it's better to get that piece of paper first.

Now I'm not talking about two and three year programs. If every thing goes well, he'll be up here while i'm on maternity leave so we will have some stay at home time together.

Your posts have been very helpful. Just from reading your posts, have helped me talk about certain subjects with him in regards to when he comes here. As to him being/feeling independent. he has an independant income in JA that can help him when he comes as to paying for one of his training programs and bringing money to help out. So I hope it works out because of course he feels no need to rush about anything

I am kind of getting worried now, I went to school in Jamaica, and even though I have 10 years law enforcement experience, I am wondering if they accept CXC (Caribbean Examinations Council) passes as equivalent to GED??
I also finished a year in university but didn't finish my degree.....

Would be interested to hear if anyone's spouse's Jamaican qualification was accepted?



My brother-in-law in JA was a dectective at the Ocho Rios Police Dept. When he came here he took classes and obtained his Pharmacy Technican certificate w/o going for add'l GED classes. He was accepted w/his CSC cert. He nows works at Caremark Rx (PBM) as a Benefit Administrator and makes good money. He is also an Assistant Manager at Kinko's (he worked himself up). I think it just depends on the individual.


It might depend on the job requirements my cousin and I spoke about his with reqards to my husband getting a job with transit and she said the ged is now a requirement, where before it didn't used to be, she said transit wouldn't take his diploma from JA. She didn't need a GED when she started there, transit took her overseas diploma but that was 10 years ago

JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(jlvr @ May 4 2007, 08:24 PM) *
Just my two cents, if it's a problem, oh well.
good.gif good.gif
I could not have said it better

QUOTE(nyseness @ May 4 2007, 08:29 PM) *
My brother-in-law in JA was a dectective at the Ocho Rios Police Dept. When he came here he took classes and obtained his Pharmacy Technican certificate w/o going for add'l GED classes. He was accepted w/his CSC cert. He nows works at Caremark Rx (PBM) as a Benefit Administrator and makes good money. He is also an Assistant Manager at Kinko's (he worked himself up). I think it just depends on the individual.

I hope I'm one of the lucky ones, cannot imagine having to take the time out to go back to school right now!

QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 08:37 PM) *
It might depend on the job requirements my cousin and I spoke about his with reqards to my husband getting a job with transit and she said the ged is now a requirement, where before it didn't used to be, she said transit wouldn't take his diploma from JA. She didn't need a GED when she started there, transit took her overseas diploma but that was 10 years ago

Damn, just hope jobs I want don't require a GED sad.gif
Do you know how long it takes to get one??
Ie, are there a minimum number of classes??
Yaads
Has anyone heard from Jax? I am beginning to worry that things didn't go so well...although there is no reason for that at all unsure.gif

Where are you Jax?!?
Jengles
QUOTE(AlienUKGirl @ May 4 2007, 03:57 PM) *
QUOTE(jlvr @ May 4 2007, 08:24 PM) *
Just my two cents, if it's a problem, oh well.
good.gif good.gif
I could not have said it better

QUOTE(nyseness @ May 4 2007, 08:29 PM) *
My brother-in-law in JA was a dectective at the Ocho Rios Police Dept. When he came here he took classes and obtained his Pharmacy Technican certificate w/o going for add'l GED classes. He was accepted w/his CSC cert. He nows works at Caremark Rx (PBM) as a Benefit Administrator and makes good money. He is also an Assistant Manager at Kinko's (he worked himself up). I think it just depends on the individual.

I hope I'm one of the lucky ones, cannot imagine having to take the time out to go back to school right now!

QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 08:37 PM) *
It might depend on the job requirements my cousin and I spoke about his with reqards to my husband getting a job with transit and she said the ged is now a requirement, where before it didn't used to be, she said transit wouldn't take his diploma from JA. She didn't need a GED when she started there, transit took her overseas diploma but that was 10 years ago

Damn, just hope jobs I want don't require a GED sad.gif
Do you know how long it takes to get one??
Ie, are there a minimum number of classes??




The person I spoke to said she was given a test to assess how much she knows and from there she took a month of class that was 3hrs a day.
nyseness
QUOTE(finesse @ May 4 2007, 01:47 PM) *
QUOTE(Jengles @ May 4 2007, 01:35 PM) *
I have a question about the medical. so far we have gotten approval and a case number from NVC but nothing from kingston. I'm going down in JA in two weeks and would like him to do the medical while i'm there. Is the medical just blood testing and testing for immunizations?? Can he get the shots from his doctor and take them to the Medical. I'm asking because i belive i read that if he needs shots that he has to pay extra. and most important question if we don't get an interview date and I bring the letter from the NVC is that enough for them to see him or should he just wait until he gets the notice from the embassy?

Thanks!


He will need the interview letter in order to make the appointment for the medical.



Actually he will need the interview date to make the medial appointment BUT will need the actual interview letter to attend the medical.
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