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thesnowman
I have just past my driving test, but they wont give me a driving licence. I have sent off for my EAD and greencard, but only at the beginning of Jan and havent received them yet. They are stating that my I-94 record states that I am K1 status until 10 Jan 07, which has since past. They want to see my greencard, which of course I wont get for a while. Are they allowed to do this or is this a mistake on there part. I performed my test Kansas city, Missouri.

Help anyone
Anna C.
Without an EAD card or green card you won't get a DL. Sorry! Happened to all of us.

States have different laws, but that's common. Check out Google for DMV Missouri and you will find the requirements.
KarenCee
Have to agree with the above poster. It was the same for my husband. EAD or Green Card. Without either of those, no driver's permit.
Karin und Otto
I'm no expert, but as we all know, we have to (apparently) become experts..

I check for MO specifically..and they say you are eligible as a K1 holder...but it has to be valid.. huh.gif

Says you need that (the K1 visa) and a passport

From their list of demands..er, I mean requirements..
All documents must be valid at the time of application. Applicants will receive a license, nondriver license, or instruction permit with an expiration date equal to the expiration date of the immigration document (not to exceed the term of the license, nondriver license or permit). Applicants whose immigration documents indicate an expiration date, as “Duration of Stay” will be issued a one-year license, nondriver license, or permit.

Missouri DMV Drivers License Requirements PDF
brtlmj
QUOTE(thesnowman @ Mar 23 2007, 04:18 PM) *
I have just past my driving test, but they wont give me a driving licence. I have sent off for my EAD and greencard, but only at the beginning of Jan and havent received them yet. They are stating that my I-94 record states that I am K1 status until 10 Jan 07, which has since past. They want to see my greencard, which of course I wont get for a while. Are they allowed to do this or is this a mistake on there part. I performed my test Kansas city, Missouri.

Your current status is "applicant for adjustment of status". Missouri DMV site states that you are eligible for a driver license. They require:
QUOTE
Immigration documentation indicating status, and
One of the following:
• Employment Authorization Document I-688B or I-766
• Passport

You can use your Notice of Action (you have received it, haven't you?) to prove your status, and you have a passport.

Print the document out (http://www.dor.mo.gov/mvdl/drivers/idrequirements.pdf) and try again. Good luck!
Anna C.
The passport won't indicate that you are legal in the country (I-94 expired). No DMV accepts NOAs, not that I ever heard of. SSO and DMV told me that the NOAs are nice and I can frame them on the wall, without valid I-94, EAD or GC no DL!

Missouri requirements:

Lawful Permanent Resident (Resident Aliens)

 One of the following:
• I-551 card (Resident Alien Card)
• Passport stamped “Approved I-551”
• Passport stamped “Processed for I-551”
• Re-entry Permit I-327
• I-94 stamped “Processed for I-551”
Expiration dates do not indicate the expiration of legal permanent resident status.

Applicants for adjustment of status
 Immigration documentation indicating status, and
One of the following:
• Employment Authorization Document I-688B or I-766
• Passport

The tricky part is - NC had the same requirements - that documentation indicating my status is an EAD or GC. You can try your luck though!
athena_ny
My husband got his license with his NOAs. smile.gif It is possible, but not likely. His I-94 is expired as well.


QUOTE(Anna C. @ Mar 24 2007, 07:23 AM) *
The passport won't indicate that you are legal in the country (I-94 expired). No DMV accepts NOAs, not that I ever heard of. SSO and DMV told me that the NOAs are nice and I can frame them on the wall, without valid I-94, EAD or GC no DL!

Missouri requirements:

Lawful Permanent Resident (Resident Aliens)

 One of the following:
• I-551 card (Resident Alien Card)
• Passport stamped “Approved I-551”
• Passport stamped “Processed for I-551”
• Re-entry Permit I-327
• I-94 stamped “Processed for I-551”
Expiration dates do not indicate the expiration of legal permanent resident status.

Applicants for adjustment of status
 Immigration documentation indicating status, and
One of the following:
• Employment Authorization Document I-688B or I-766
• Passport

The tricky part is - NC had the same requirements - that documentation indicating my status is an EAD or GC. You can try your luck though!
KarenCee
The only way to know for sure is to go to the DMV office in person, bring any documentation with you regarding your status in this country, and ASK. That's how we found out that Georgia wouldn't give my husband a DL without his EAD or GC.
Amby
Here I am trying to convince Neil to take the written test so he can get his learner's permit and he might not be able to get it right away. I better look up Indiana's laws too. I'm happy I stumbled across this thread. Thanks everyone!
Karin und Otto
Here is a link to help quickly find your state's DMV.


US DMVs good.gif
sarah and hicham
My husband wasn't even allowed to get a CA ID without having either his greencard, EAD, or I-94 that was good for another 60 days when applying. You just have to wait for EAD or GC. Good luck.
pervez
QUOTE(thesnowman @ Mar 23 2007, 04:18 PM) *
I have just past my driving test, but they wont give me a driving licence. I have sent off for my EAD and greencard, but only at the beginning of Jan and havent received them yet. They are stating that my I-94 record states that I am K1 status until 10 Jan 07, which has since past. They want to see my greencard, which of course I wont get for a while. Are they allowed to do this or is this a mistake on there part. I performed my test Kansas city, Missouri.

Help anyone


Don't you have a UK drivers licence?

Why not use that until they're willing to issue a US one?
JamalNTam
QUOTE(Anna C. @ Mar 24 2007, 01:23 PM) *
The passport won't indicate that you are legal in the country (I-94 expired). No DMV accepts NOAs, not that I ever heard of. SSO and DMV told me that the NOAs are nice and I can frame them on the wall, without valid I-94, EAD or GC no DL!

Missouri requirements:

Lawful Permanent Resident (Resident Aliens)

 One of the following:
• I-551 card (Resident Alien Card)
• Passport stamped “Approved I-551”
• Passport stamped “Processed for I-551”
• Re-entry Permit I-327
• I-94 stamped “Processed for I-551”
Expiration dates do not indicate the expiration of legal permanent resident status.

Applicants for adjustment of status
 Immigration documentation indicating status, and
One of the following:
• Employment Authorization Document I-688B or I-766
• Passport

The tricky part is - NC had the same requirements - that documentation indicating my status is an EAD or GC. You can try your luck though!



I contacted Arizona DMV and explained my situation and they confirmed that I can apply with my visa and once that has expired I can extend my licence with a NOA for proof that I've applied for AOS. I have written correspondance from them confirming this. But as said before, every state is different.
KarenCee
QUOTE(pervez @ Mar 25 2007, 04:25 PM) *
QUOTE(thesnowman @ Mar 23 2007, 04:18 PM) *
I have just past my driving test, but they wont give me a driving licence. I have sent off for my EAD and greencard, but only at the beginning of Jan and havent received them yet. They are stating that my I-94 record states that I am K1 status until 10 Jan 07, which has since past. They want to see my greencard, which of course I wont get for a while. Are they allowed to do this or is this a mistake on there part. I performed my test Kansas city, Missouri.

Help anyone


Don't you have a UK drivers licence?

Why not use that until they're willing to issue a US one?

Because, if it's like Georgia, it's only as good as the validity of the I-94. My husband, being Canadian, had a perfectly good and valid driver's permit...but was not permitted to drive on it past the I-94 expiry.
pervez
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 25 2007, 06:48 PM) *
QUOTE(pervez @ Mar 25 2007, 04:25 PM) *
QUOTE(thesnowman @ Mar 23 2007, 04:18 PM) *
I have just past my driving test, but they wont give me a driving licence. I have sent off for my EAD and greencard, but only at the beginning of Jan and havent received them yet. They are stating that my I-94 record states that I am K1 status until 10 Jan 07, which has since past. They want to see my greencard, which of course I wont get for a while. Are they allowed to do this or is this a mistake on there part. I performed my test Kansas city, Missouri.

Help anyone


Don't you have a UK drivers licence?

Why not use that until they're willing to issue a US one?

Because, if it's like Georgia, it's only as good as the validity of the I-94. My husband, being Canadian, had a perfectly good and valid driver's permit...but was not permitted to drive on it past the I-94 expiry.


Oh great, GA that's where I'm heading. Another joyful surprise.
Good to know enough time in advance, thanks for that good.gif

Better try scheduling the DV in between getting the SS card and sending out the AOS application, and seeking AP and.....

The whole process K-1 through AOS is just a ride of joy, sometimes I wonder why on earth somebody would want to go through this process.(well if it wasn't for her then I'd never want to move over but that's another story smile.gif )
KarenCee
QUOTE(pervez @ Mar 25 2007, 08:25 PM) *
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 25 2007, 06:48 PM) *
QUOTE(pervez @ Mar 25 2007, 04:25 PM) *
QUOTE(thesnowman @ Mar 23 2007, 04:18 PM) *
I have just past my driving test, but they wont give me a driving licence. I have sent off for my EAD and greencard, but only at the beginning of Jan and havent received them yet. They are stating that my I-94 record states that I am K1 status until 10 Jan 07, which has since past. They want to see my greencard, which of course I wont get for a while. Are they allowed to do this or is this a mistake on there part. I performed my test Kansas city, Missouri.

Help anyone


Don't you have a UK drivers licence?

Why not use that until they're willing to issue a US one?

Because, if it's like Georgia, it's only as good as the validity of the I-94. My husband, being Canadian, had a perfectly good and valid driver's permit...but was not permitted to drive on it past the I-94 expiry.


Oh great, GA that's where I'm heading. Another joyful surprise.
Good to know enough time in advance, thanks for that good.gif

Better try scheduling the DV in between getting the SS card and sending out the AOS application, and seeking AP and.....

The whole process K-1 through AOS is just a ride of joy, sometimes I wonder why on earth somebody would want to go through this process.(well if it wasn't for her then I'd never want to move over but that's another story smile.gif )

Welcome to Georgia...in advance. smile.gif It was 91 degrees here today. March...and it was 91 degrees. My husband turned on the AC today.
phila
Oh my,

I clicked the Pennsylvania DMV link, and it says "proof of US Citizenship" is required for a DL. Is this possible?

Omer grew up in Istanbul, and doesn't drive, perhaps he should learn and get a Turkish license before coming, and then it will be valid?

I hope so....
brtlmj
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Mar 25 2007, 12:47 PM) *
My husband wasn't even allowed to get a CA ID without having either his greencard, EAD, or I-94 that was good for another 60 days when applying. You just have to wait for EAD or GC. Good luck.

True... California has an official list of documents they will accept, and NOA is not on the list. On the other hand, out of state/country license is valid as long as you are not a resident...

By the way, there is an article about the Real ID act in last issue of "The Economist". Here is one paragraph of it:
QUOTE
On January 25th Maine became the first state to revolt. Its legislature passed a resolution refusing to implement the Real ID Act with near unanimous support. On March 8th, Idaho approved a similar bill. Two dozen other states have measured pending that question the act or oppose it outright.

It's nice to know that sanity sometimes prevails.
phila
I just can't believe the only thing they will accept- is:
1. A USA birth certificate with raised seal
2. Certificate of naturalization
3. US passport.

This is incredible- it could be years before he gets any of the above. He will definitely learn to drive now in Turkey!

(Althought the thought scares me- it's like the #1 or 2 cause of death there!)

I think I'll ask to go to the countryside to learn smile.gif
brtlmj
QUOTE(phila @ Mar 25 2007, 08:17 PM) *
I just can't believe the only thing they will accept- is:
1. A USA birth certificate with raised seal
2. Certificate of naturalization
3. US passport.

This can't be true, but you are right - this is what the website says. Note that a non-citizen CAN get a state ID! I think that whoever prepared the webpage made a mistake, that's all. They can't deny licenses to LPRs, after all!
pervez
QUOTE(phila @ Mar 25 2007, 08:17 PM) *
I just can't believe the only thing they will accept- is:
1. A USA birth certificate with raised seal
2. Certificate of naturalization
3. US passport.

This is incredible- it could be years before he gets any of the above. He will definitely learn to drive now in Turkey!

(Althought the thought scares me- it's like the #1 or 2 cause of death there!)

I think I'll ask to go to the countryside to learn smile.gif

Ok, so this topic got me interested(why I do not know!!! blink.gif )

But here is a link for you to the PA DMV:
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/licensing_master/identity.shtml
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/new_residents/d...r_license.shtml

Check these out
athena_ny
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 25 2007, 07:56 PM) *
QUOTE(pervez @ Mar 25 2007, 08:25 PM) *
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 25 2007, 06:48 PM) *
QUOTE(pervez @ Mar 25 2007, 04:25 PM) *
QUOTE(thesnowman @ Mar 23 2007, 04:18 PM) *
I have just past my driving test, but they wont give me a driving licence. I have sent off for my EAD and greencard, but only at the beginning of Jan and havent received them yet. They are stating that my I-94 record states that I am K1 status until 10 Jan 07, which has since past. They want to see my greencard, which of course I wont get for a while. Are they allowed to do this or is this a mistake on there part. I performed my test Kansas city, Missouri.

Help anyone


Don't you have a UK drivers licence?

Why not use that until they're willing to issue a US one?

Because, if it's like Georgia, it's only as good as the validity of the I-94. My husband, being Canadian, had a perfectly good and valid driver's permit...but was not permitted to drive on it past the I-94 expiry.


Oh great, GA that's where I'm heading. Another joyful surprise.
Good to know enough time in advance, thanks for that good.gif

Better try scheduling the DV in between getting the SS card and sending out the AOS application, and seeking AP and.....

The whole process K-1 through AOS is just a ride of joy, sometimes I wonder why on earth somebody would want to go through this process.(well if it wasn't for her then I'd never want to move over but that's another story smile.gif )

Welcome to Georgia...in advance. smile.gif It was 91 degrees here today. March...and it was 91 degrees. My husband turned on the AC today.


Georgia is vicious...on my way to Tampa once I had a layover at Hartfield Jackson and we were in a hard stand - had to walk from the plane to the terminal in the hot sun and they had tents for the personnel and the heat was TERRIBLE. I mean, FL was hot for me at the time, I could NOT believe how awful Atlanta was.
phila
Thank you those links were SO helpful. It appears he can apply with a SS card, and proof of residency.

I am relieved good.gif
Darkchild80
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 23 2007, 09:49 PM) *
Have to agree with the above poster. It was the same for my husband. EAD or Green Card. Without either of those, no driver's permit.



Georgia did not transfer your Canadian license? Did your husband have to take a written exam and driving test? My husband is still driving on his Canadian license but it is sad because I am still driving on my New York license. I moved to Georgia in August. We will get it together this week!
KarenCee
QUOTE(Darkchild80 @ Mar 27 2007, 02:11 PM) *
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 23 2007, 09:49 PM) *
Have to agree with the above poster. It was the same for my husband. EAD or Green Card. Without either of those, no driver's permit.



Georgia did not transfer your Canadian license? Did your husband have to take a written exam and driving test? My husband is still driving on his Canadian license but it is sad because I am still driving on my New York license. I moved to Georgia in August. We will get it together this week!

No, they wouldn't transfer his Cdn license. We were advised by the DMV personnel to get an International Drivers Permit from the AAA...which is NOT correct information 'cos the AAA website says their permits are for driving in other countries other than the US. Oh well, he's got it now, after the EAD. He had to take the written and driving test, btw.
Darkchild80
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 27 2007, 08:00 PM) *
QUOTE(Darkchild80 @ Mar 27 2007, 02:11 PM) *
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 23 2007, 09:49 PM) *
Have to agree with the above poster. It was the same for my husband. EAD or Green Card. Without either of those, no driver's permit.



Georgia did not transfer your Canadian license? Did your husband have to take a written exam and driving test? My husband is still driving on his Canadian license but it is sad because I am still driving on my New York license. I moved to Georgia in August. We will get it together this week!

No, they wouldn't transfer his Cdn license. We were advised by the DMV personnel to get an International Drivers Permit from the AAA...which is NOT correct information 'cos the AAA website says their permits are for driving in other countries other than the US. Oh well, he's got it now, after the EAD. He had to take the written and driving test, btw.



Thank you! That really sucks because I just moved from New York. New York would have simply transferred his Canadian license. I think it is stupid that he has to take the written test and driving test again!
KarenCee
QUOTE(Darkchild80 @ Mar 29 2007, 08:02 AM) *
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 27 2007, 08:00 PM) *
QUOTE(Darkchild80 @ Mar 27 2007, 02:11 PM) *
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 23 2007, 09:49 PM) *
Have to agree with the above poster. It was the same for my husband. EAD or Green Card. Without either of those, no driver's permit.



Georgia did not transfer your Canadian license? Did your husband have to take a written exam and driving test? My husband is still driving on his Canadian license but it is sad because I am still driving on my New York license. I moved to Georgia in August. We will get it together this week!

No, they wouldn't transfer his Cdn license. We were advised by the DMV personnel to get an International Drivers Permit from the AAA...which is NOT correct information 'cos the AAA website says their permits are for driving in other countries other than the US. Oh well, he's got it now, after the EAD. He had to take the written and driving test, btw.



Thank you! That really sucks because I just moved from New York. New York would have simply transferred his Canadian license. I think it is stupid that he has to take the written test and driving test again!

I agree. Not only that, it took us 6 hours for the whole frickin process - from start to finish. Thank the gods they are open on Saturdays. Depends on who you get to help you as to the attitude you'll get - we went to the DDS in Gainesville GA. The guy who talked to us copped an attitude immediately when he found out Joel is a recent K1. *still simmers thinking about it* It wasn't just us...he obviously had a problem with *anyone* who is an immigrant. The German girl behind us got his attitude as well. We had to wait *six* hours for the tests and to get his license. Sheesh. Unbelievable.
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