The blue slip requests more evidence of the following:
proof of former spouse current address - petitioner
proof of former spouse current address - applicant
additional correspondence between Linh and I

I got the info I needed from my ex. She is being very helpful. We have lots of correspondence from prior to our Dam Hoi, so that is easy. The one problem may be Linh former spouse in VN. She knows where he is living, but cannot get ahold of him to get a photocopy of his housebook or anything else.

Has anyone else run into this problem? What other options do we have to show proof of address of someone that can't be contacted? She has gone to the home, but no one is there. She doesn't have any phone numbers, yet. Still trying that one.

Go to the local police where Linh's ex lives, talk to them and see what they can be at any help. Ward Police Department (Cong An Phuong) would be where I start looking for help.

The requirement to confirm where Linh's ex-husband living is not suitable for the Vietnamese as the ex-spouse never wants to help in this case according to our tradition. You should ask her to bribe some money to the local police office where he is living and send a letter to require them to confirm, then they can give her the confirmation for his living address.

But it's strange as in so many other cases, they didn't ask for these documentations.

Hien

David and Hien,

They do ask for these information, especially if you previously married. Need to verify the ex's address.

I am never married, but had a girlfriend and a kid. do they need info of my exgirlfriend ? I know where she and my daughter live , but I dont think she will cooperate in this. you know vietnamse people, they become enemies after a bad break up .

Do you pay child support to your daughter? if you do then, you should get all the documents. Better have it when they ask for it.

no, dont pay anything. I did but only cash. no paper trail.

Is your name on the little girl's Birth Certificate? If yes, they you will need sometime of document (i.e. the girl's BC) to show HCMC that you have a child in your life. Paper trail or not, you do pay some types of support for this little girl, cash and gift.

my fiancee had to get ex household book also . her mother told him she needed it for her afair and didnt go into detail about it. he got it and brought it over to her that day .she also went to police in home town and got certified when she left there and she can show when she seperated and move to parents left parents and moved to hcmc sje got statemnets from lpand ladys where all she live but police would help certified it much if land lady lost book or some thing. good luck to you

Thanks for the suggestion about going to the police in his town. I will pass that on.

Has anyone had an ex refuse to give any info? US or VN? And if so, what was the outcome?

Just tell them the TRUTH. "My ex did not cooperate and that would explain even more so why we aren't together!"

Great point Chuck & Kim!

Now my ex is worried about putting anything in writing to the INS. Her immigration was all above board. I met her in the US. Did the AOS legally, she's a permanent resident. But still reluctant.

Anh Map,

I am just curious. Do you and your fiancee have children from previous marriage. The reason I am asking is if you both have children from previous marriage. Then there will be some contacts with the EX-W/EX-H(Child support or visit rights). And maybe why CO was asking about EX-W/H current addresses. Maybe??????

No, we don't have kids from prior marriages. So there is no correspondence between us.

Here's the newest wrinkle, my ex's attorney says to not provide anything confirming her address. So now I have no way to prove her current address. Her address is on our divorce decree. One suggestion I received was to send a registered letter with return receipt. If she accepts, I have proof, if she refuses it I have proof that she refused it at that address. That may be the course of action.

Surprising that her attorney would instruct her to do something that could only bring about suspicion. My ex is not a USC, but all the entry to the US and AOS was legit and above board.

Sorry to hear your strange situation. I am divorced too and I do not know where my ex is and I don't care that is why we divorced.

OK, we are now 0 for 2 regarding cooperating spouses. Linh will go to the police in her ex's town to try and get some ducumentation about his address. I composed a letter with all I know to be true regarding my ex. I would hope that will be enough. What can you do to prove someone's address when that person will not cooperate?

Anh Map,

As for proof of address of your fiance's ex, I can assure you that it can be obtained via Cong An Phuong. The catch is she must be willing to pay. "Bac Ho" or the "Dead Presidents" will get you what you want.

As for your ex whereabouts, all you have to do is having a sworn statement from you telling them where you think she lives now. Have it notarized at your bank. That's it.

Don't sweat it. You will be fine.

That's what's up Kevin... Dead Uncle Ho!!!!

Anh Map,
You can do the certificate for Linh's ex. Uncle Ho will help you. The letter is not enough, you must submit Uncle Ho to the local police officer. Please remember Uncle Ho, he will help you strongly under Vietnam Law.

Hien

Anh Map,

I went to my county assesor and I was able to retrieve and print out my ex's resident address. This listing also has her name and when she bought the house. I will have my fiancee to include it in with her supporting evidence during her interview just incase CO asks for it. I hope your ex has her own house then you can obtain proof for her address this way. I hope this helps.

Nope, she's a renter. I am not sure what I can do. I did send off a notarized letter from me with all the specifics I can muster. Let's see what they say about that. I'm headed over in couple of weeks. So if the letter isn't enough I have some time to get something else and being it with me and MAYBE I can bring Linh back with me.

Oh yeah, I'll be sure to send her to the police with some nice portraits of Uncle Ho.

Does your ex have relatives or friends?

They can write statement with notary telling about your ex current address . here example good luck

09-Jan-2007

Vicky Nguyen
1461 Washington Street.
Apple Valley, MN 55124
(952) xxx-xxxx Home phone
(952) xxx-xxxx Cell phone


To whom it may concern:

Case #: HCM 2006-xxx-xxx

I am Phuong Nguyen (formerly Phuong Huynh). I am the aunt to ex-wife.
Chicagoman and ex-wife had a son, and have been divorced since 2003. Ex-wife was born on November xx, xxx at I-To Chi Minh City, Vietnam. Ex-wife has since remarried with another man named “Tony Tran” and had two additional children. Ex-wife and Tony are living at the following address:

xxxx Harrison Street
Bloomington , IN 46830

Ex-wife s other relatives have signed below in agreement that all of this information is true.


With notary

i dont know if it will help but is your spouse listed in the telephone book?? make a copy of their listing, wouldn't that be proof?

Good suggestions, however neither apply. She's the only member of her family here in the States, and she's like a lot of folks with only a cell, so no listing in the phone book.

We'll see how the notarized letter from me goes. I'm heading to HCMC in a week. So if that isn't enough at the Consulate this week I'll bring everything I can with me to VN.

Big picture = PINK!!!!!

Think Big Picture!

What they are really doing is to make sure you and your ex, she and hers aren't living together and trying to pull a fast on the Consulate Address is NOT the only piece of evidence where you can show you two aren't together. TAX record can be used as well. You mentioned she doesn't own a home, she rents? Ask the landlord for a copy of her rent contract, give him a sweet green Benjamin, that would do it in most case! Don't say crap about your real reasons to obtain one, just say: for insurance purpose. I hope she didn't tell her landlord already to look out for Anh Map comes knocking and asking for her rental contract

You can also, if you want to go this far, pick up her trash the morning of trash pick up day. Almost 80% of the poeple don't shred their mails or junk mails. Since these are trash and in plainsight, you can pick them up buddy! Dumpster Diver! Ok, this sounds shady about it is the extreme scenario which I hope you don't have to go there. Take her junk mails and other free credit card offers from BankOne You get the idea!

OH, check with her neighbors. Can they attest to her where about with their own address written on the letter? Show it is next to hers.

The possibility is endless Anh Map. You've gotta try them all and then in the end, if you still don't have it, you can always ask the USCIS to contact the DHS to verify her SSN and find out on their own. Remember, you can not show them what you don't have! Neither does your honey in VN!

Anh map,

It is will be fine when you are here with your fiancee in vn and together deal with this problem, i believe that uncle Ho will help you guys. Just find some "service there and deal with the bribe". I wish you the best luck and will get visa soon. YOU WILL BE FINE!!!!

Trang

Chuck & Kim, thanks for the advice. Remind me to never get on your bad side. Linh is now on her way to the ex's town to see what Uncle Ho can do for her. hahahaha My notarized letter has already arrived in Viet Nam so she will go to the Consulate on Wednesday with all the evidence that we can produce.

If there is more needed, I will bring it with me next week.

My ex's landlord is a friend of hers, who lives across the country. I can't easily go and find out anything from her neighbors as I am in New England and she's in FL. I have to think that my letter plus whatever Uncle Ho gets us with Linh's ex, along about 200 additional e-mails and chat logs will take us across the finish line.

Keep the faith for us. I see something PINK in the future.

Know anyone in Florida? in her town? close to it? Ask them to just seating outside her place, take a few roll of films or even video taping her enter and leaving her apartment with visually clear House address and location. Mail the photos and tapes from Florida. You can even hire a PI to do a quick run on her Credit History for you as well, you'll be surprised how much of your suposed private information is publically available to anyone who willing to pay for the dirt.

Good luck

have an awesome strip brother!

Chuck and Kim

Anh Map - Here is my suggestion to you for finding proof of your former spouses address. This is going to require some finess on your part.

If you know a persons name, birthday, and SSN you can pretty much find any information about them on the internet. You may have to pay a nominal fee to do so. There is always an address associated with a person if they have a credit card, own a car, have a license etc.

Complete a background check; past and current addresses will show up. I am sure she is recieving mail where she lives so you are bound to get a hit.

Good Luck

We are hoping that Linh will have success returning to the Consulate on Thursday with the requested info. She got the housebook from one of her ex's relatives. Just a little inducement was needed. My ex refused so I put together a letter with as much as I know and got it notarized. Add in 30 more photos, 75 printed e-mails and another 200 chat logs on a thumb drive should get us over the line.

So be thinking good thought sfor us on Thursday and I'll be back with a report on Friday.

Big Picture = Pink !!

GOOD LUCK AHN MAP!!!

Anh i will keep a special good thought for your P*I*N*K