This one does have some relevance at our home (as Pras happens to like shrimp/prawns which I disallow as "forbidden by Levitical Law").

Wookie/Ewok, please delete -- the poll didn't work.

Man, someone needs to whup your a$$. Where do you get off 'disallowing' anything? Geez.

yeah!

I wanna hear more about this 'disallow' business.

I could see it if you were an Old Testament Jew, but those dietary restrictions do not apply to New Testament Christians. Check out Acts 10 and 15 and Colossians 2 for examples.

My Messianic Jewish friend, who follows both sides of that coin, also does not eat shrimp. The difference, though, is that if a Messianic Jew has them on their plate as a guest at someone's house, they will eat them. However, they would never eat them at home or serve them to others.

(The story that her Rabbi told her---and which she told me as I ate my shrimp cocktail---was that after a dead body sinks to the bottom of the sea and sits there a while . . . and someone finds it and picks it up . . . the things clinging to it will be shrimp. This is what makes shrimp dirty food.)

Not trying to rile anyone up---just sharing something I learned.

yummy cockroaches of the sea!!!

Some things I learned about shrimp:[list][*]among seafood items, it's the one that most-oft causes allergies[*]of all foods, it has the highest cholesterol, especially LDL and VLDL[

But that still doesn't explain why you disallow YOUR wife from eating them. Can't she choose for herself? You still haven't explained your earlier comments. I, for one, am intrigued.

DISALLOW strange word in a marriage - there are plenty of things Ahmed wont want to eat but he has said if i choose i can continue only he wont, not that he will disallow me, sorry your not in Kansas anymore.(figuratively speaking Charles)

Perhaps so, but it's still a matter of personal choice; anything in excess can be harmful, and most things in moderation are ok. But the health issue is very different from an appeal to Levitical Law, the prohibitions of which are not binding for Christians, nor were they actually binding for Gentiles, as the Law of Moses was given only to Israel.

Heh. If anyone disallowed anything in my house I'd be disallowing their azz to come through the front door ever again.

So far, my compromise was to allow her to have shrimp in restaurants or someone else's home (still disallowed at home).

This post of yours makes a lot more sense to me now. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...st&p=724325

Honestly, the first time, I didn't really understand what you were trying to say. But now it makes sense. Shrimp is not "legal" in your home.

I can kind of understand where you're coming from I guess. My husband does not eat pork. And though he hasn't "disallowed" it in our home, I just find no reason to bring it into the house. I will eat it out at restaurants and such.

I think the word "disallow" has shocked some people. But I don't really see it as being a big deal, unless Pras were dying to cook shrimp at home and you've firmly forbid her from doing so.

I think it was always understood this was your belief, etc but i think your digging the hole a little deeper now in saying Your compromise was to (ALLOW), here each person is just that, a person of themselves. Everyone makes choices, what to eat, what to wear. Of course my Ahmed will eat no pork either and it doesnt both me not to bring into the house, its not something i have to have, but one day if i chose to he definately would not tell me i was not allowed, but this is your house. If both are comfortable with this decision, fine, but apparently not or you wouldnt be asking on here.

Get outta my head!!!

Tho I woulda ended it with 'he should disallow my foot in his ###'





The difference tho Jenn, is that your husband observes summat, and you respect that belief by not having it in the house.

That's a lot different than 'disallow'

sanita and i...do not eat shrimp or seafood except fish.....per our beliefs

Oh I meant to say....your poor wife!



But Deano, isn't that a bit different since you both share the same beliefs? Would you 'allow/disallow' food for a grown woman??????

So thats great something (the issue doesnt have to be food) you both have decided between yourselves and your both comfortable, not something the other is not allowing. Its all give and take and agreement, not one controlling, (only my thought)

i plan to not have pork in our home just to respect my husbands beliefs...but i don't think he would particularly disallow me from having it there. like jenn said, i'll just eat it when i'm not with him (mmmmmm bbq pork ribs.mmmmm bacon...mmm ham. mmm)

Hmmm....methinks Cherry opened up a HUGE can of worms.

Don't act all surprised when a man disallows his wife certain things -- why do you think so many
people here import subservient wives from foreign countries? (CherryXS - not you.)

that's an interesting point.

I just think it's so terribly sad to feel such power over another adult that you tell them what they can and cannot have in a home that's supposedly hers as well.

A real man wouldn't need to exert such authority. There, I said it. And I fcukin mean it too!

I still don't understand why someone would not allow their wife to eat shrimp at home. I'd like a clarification on that one.

See Leviticus 11:9-12

you are right sister lisa, i never disallowed nothing ..i beleive marriage is understanding, patience, love, caring and each person is an individual first and a spouse second...so, i never disallow anything or feel like i have or want control over someone else....

i saw that!


are they allowed under "Levitical Law" ????

In other words, they are non-kosher

First of all, I feel you're FOS cos the second reply of yours in here was all about 'oh it's bad for cholesterol'

Secondly, if you were truly that religious, you wouldn't 'compromise by allowing her to eat it out of the home' if you feel it's SUCH an abomination.

Third of all, I pity your wife for having such an authoritative husband. Do you make her call you Daddy, too?

We are going to need more popcorn that that!

It is noticeable that foods that are forbidden by Levitical law turn out, almost as a rule, to be unhealthy--so no contradiction.


On this one, you show a strong-to-complete lack of understanding. It is quite common that food items are forbidden in Indian homes (even Pras' paternal grandmother forbade non-veg in her home--when she knew her husband liked chicken and fish)

Cherry, do you follow the other Levitical Laws, in addition to the food restrictions? In light of the New Testament texts I referrenced, as well as many others, I really don't understand Christians adhering to Old Covenant dietary restrictions.

And to think this thread may have just gotten deleted per Srini's request had I not opened my big mouth right at the beginning.

Sorry, a grown man has no right to 'forbid' his wife anything. Imo, it just shows a small man with a need to exert authority & taking it out on a woman who's used to it.

Prolly best that you found love outside this country...no American woman would put up with that shiznit. Oh, and guess what? D has things he feels are important...I respect him so I respect them....he didn't have to force me.

it's all your fault, as usual

This is the EXACT point you seem to have difficulty understanding.

You appear to be assuming that I SPECIFICALLY SEARCHED for "outside of home" spouse--which is completely wrong (as North America IS NOT home culturally, despite of my having lived in this continent for 35+ years).

Very interesting thread here. I told my SO that I can't stand liver and I won't cook it for him. But I didn't tell him he couldn't have it ever. Just that I won't make it for him.

Now, the following is just my opinion. If you don't like it, pretend you didn't read it

If the SO of CherryXS doesn't have a problem not having shrimp in the home, or if they have worked something out between the two of them, then why it's not a problem. If she isn't upset about it, then we don't need to be either - unless we are invited to dinner at CherryXS home and want to bring a shrimp platter

I never said you SPECIFICALLY SEARCHED for 'outside the home'. I said it's prolly best it worked out that way, as most American women would prolly tell you to get on your bike if you forbade certain foods in the home.

I have no problem with you not eating shrimp for whatever reasons, but I do find the whole 'forbid' angle to be quite embarrassing and small of you. You don't have to agree, I'm sure you won't...but 'forbid'? Shame on you

Imagine the joy you'd have to feel the respect that Pras has for you that she would want to choose to not have shrimp in the home. Choose! Meaning of her own volition. Imagine the freedom you could show Pras that hey...you're an adult, you can choose for yourself and no one's going to to impose 'laws' on you! But instead, you've taken that away from her & laid the law down cos it's not so different from what she's used to.

and I think exerting such control over your spouse is unneccessary.

I wonder if the muslim target cashier in off topic's husband disallowed her to handle pork *ducks and runs*


seriously, though, I know a lot of devout christians and none of them observe levitical laws. I'd be curious on an answer to scott's questions

This topic has been closed per the request of the original poster. Thank you for your understanding.