I see all the NOA2s on here and I cant help but wonder how many of these had IMBRA waivers included in the petitions. I'd like to see just how much this slows down the process. TIA

I did not have an IMBRA waiver in my petition but I know someone who did (2nd petition within 2 years), and he filed about 20 days before I did and was approved 3 days before I was....

You're just the guy I wanted on this thread being that you are the monthly stat master! I've seen a couple timelines with IMBRA waivers...one that took 8 months...but I also have a 601 to file at the end of all this so my journey will probably be near completion when Im 93 years old. (Im 34)

Well, mine doesn't seem to be going very well. I sent the K-1 on the 14th of December to Vermont. My NOA-2 was January 22nd. Most take about 2 weeks. I was notified that my name had been added to a Database of Multiple filers. From then, absolutely nothing. I have not received any notices from NVC. One other guy using Vermont with a fiencee from Russia and with a NOA-2 date the same as mine has his interview on March 25th. I just have to assume the IMBRA waver is slowing it down but I really thought if it did slow it down it would be in Vermont.

I had decided to wait until the end of this week (tomorrow) before I start trying to find out what is happening. Anyway, that is my story.

HI there, I posted in IMBRA once my petition was filed. This is my second K1 in 2 years; I sent in Paperwork 1/25/07 and our interview is 5/10/07. Less than four months - praying that we get approved. I don't know if it necessarily slows you down. The good news is that people are getting approved!

good luck to you.

I filed my petition with a request for an IMBRA waiver (2nd K1 in two years, but for the same beneficiary.) As my timeline shows, we got the NOA2 in the same time as most CSC filers, and it has passed through the NVC quickly and smoothly.

IMBRA is predominantly a USCIS issue and once it is approved and moved on to NVC should have no affect on your petition whatsoever. However, that does not mean that other issues won't arise at NVC when they process the name check (or whatever it is they do at NVC)

My petition hit NVC on the same day as another VJ'er... My petition passed NVC in two days and his is still there pending additional review....

Have you called or e-mailed NVC for an update?

I had a previously approved petition ( not all the way approved) and a former marriage case where I stopped the guy's greencard ( 2 cases in the last 6 years) so watch my case because I submitted a request for a waiver with my 129F petition. I got a very weird message that my old cancelled case had been received at the service center and at first I was confused.

Is any one else dealing with an approved case in the last 2 years that had to have an IMBRA waiver? How long are they taking ( IMBRA waivers)?

Hey don't feel bad. I have a former marriage case where my beneficiary beat the crap out of me and I cancelled the petition.
Then 2 years ago I petitioned for another boyfriend and he got approved but then decided not to come here ( approved March 7) day after imbra started

I finally fell in love again and right when I did, they stopped taking consular filings and then imbra kicked in so I am sitting in the middle of a pile of papers and no idea where to turn next. I want to cancel this petition and then file a K3 cause I just want to be with him so bad ( its been 5 months) I am so scared I will lose our relationship if I have to file a new case and then cancel this one but I am hearing so many nightmares about interviews and people that are legitamate couples being turned down for stupid stuff and then I am looking at the wait times. I have talked to several attorneys and they are telling me to wait out the fiancee visa and the waiver process because the marriage visa is taking forever too and then I could end up cancelling one case , starting another and ending up underneath a pile of papers. We don't set out to make a mess of our lives.. but oops. Has any one had any luck with imbra and the less than 2 year appeal? Did any one else see a notice for an old case being sent back to the service center for review? I got the receipt and I freaked cause I thought it was my new case and here I am getting a receipt for a 2005 case that has been closed a year. Do they always do that.. send old cases back to go with the new ones? Or am I the only weirdo on here with a mess on their hands?

so he's not as in love as you are? He won't stay with you if the petition takes too long? Huh. Interesting. And trollish, among other things.

along with dcf was stopped after imbra, not prior to, as the above stated.

[No... I just have seen so many relationships fall apart because its years and years to get approved. I am just really depressed.. I just dont want to go through too much more heartache. I am supposed to see him again in a few weeks

This is my second petition for the same beneficiary within the two year period, as the first petition was denied at CSC level. I did not want to take a chance in case some incompetent boob reviewing this petition does not know how to interpret the IMBRA law, so I requested a waiver along with petition #2.

so maybe it adds 3 weeks on to the case?

If a statistical sample of one is a trend then you could draw that conclusion... but then again TracyTN filed one day after me and was approved 30 days after mine and she did not have any IMBRA issues...

do statistics really prove right?Is there some kind of rythm to it?Like flow in which thing get done?

any news turbo guy?

He just posted today (if you look under his profile and search for recent posts). He cleared NVC in mid-March but now appears to have re-entered the black hole in Moscow......

have you seen any imbra denials with a waiver request for multiple petitions/

None that I am aware of...

Nope, still sitting in the dark with my thumb stuck in my ear. I am going to try calling again tonight to see if anything has happened but so far nothing at all.

Getting back on topic. If someone loses their S/O over the delays in the visa process, even if it goes on for years, then they did not have anything that was worth saving anyway. My fiancee and I are facing challenges we had not expected with our visa application and it has made our relationship even stronger because we are facing the adversity together, sharing the worry and fear and working to find the best possible solutions.

It is a little like the expression about the problems we face will either kill us or make us stronger. It is making us stronger. If it kills you it was never really alive anyway.

I agree....

I have a question. Have you seen SO's leave petitioners in the middle cause of delays ? It happened to me and what is so horrible is that he took till I found someone else to come back around and now its too late. I started the process in October 2005 and the fees went up so they sent the whole package back to me and then kept delaying the submission. By the time I got the approval he had left and found someone else. I wonder if relationships have broken up over lengthy delays...

How come we are not getting any correspondance with them? If I made a mistake on filling something out will they tell me? I didnt know if I needed a waiver or not so I did one.. and then I sent them copies of my hotel bill and my plane tickets and pics and I did not get an RFE... I havent gotten anything. The poor file was at texas first and then at cali and then 12 april my old case was shipped back to cali for review because of the IMBRA thing... yet to this moment I HAVE HEARD NOTHING>> NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING.. and its making me sad. I dont know if things are good or bad or what... At least an interview you can prepare for .... like gather stuff.. pics... phone bills affadavits... etc... but this black hole of USCIS is like this horrible abyss you put things in and nothing comes out

then if most are being granted waivers.. why did they make the rule up to begin with if a whole waiver system is in place..

AND DCF is the same way... some people are skirthing the system anyway

It is the government. Doesn't that explain everything.

I have not seen anyone with wavers being denied. It does seem to create more of a problem if the beneficiary was here before on a K-1 visa (even if they returned in less than the 90 days) than if the petitioner has multiple K-1's and does a waver. That seems to trigger an A/R which really is the pitts.

I just called NVC last night and there is no change in our status. I am sure as some have mentioned lenghty delays can kill a relationship, especially when a feeling of hopelessness sets in. I e-mailed my fiancee and updated her last night. I just got one back from her and I have to agree with what she said. The delay for us has made our relationship stronger. It is a problem we are facing together, side by side and helping to create a common bond. It has helped us know we really want to be togther no matter what we have to go through or do for that to be reality.

I did check to see if we had been assigned a case number at NVC and we were. Those who believe in lucky numbers would have expected ours to be lucky. We were the 7th one processed that day which gives us an ending number of 007. Perhaps that is what really triggered our Administrative Review. They looked at the ending number and thought I might be the famous Brittish secret agent.

Turboguy,

Seven is the number of completeness.

I put the imbra appeal in my petition and they still sent me an intent to deny due to imbra and asked me to send a waiver. They ignored the one I put in there so now I just had to write another letter. How long are these appeals taking once they receive the letter?

I think they are starting to deny with waivers. Thats what my attorney friend just told me. I dont think they are granting the waivers easy now. I also am very upset because I enclosed the waiver in my petition and they ignored it and sent me the intent to deny due to IMBRA and I had explained that he had never come here and never interviewed ( my former fiancee) They did not seem to care. They sent me the letter of intent to deny and only gave me 8 days to respond. I will be gone on vacation for 2 weeks. They could have denied me on vacataion and I wouldnt have even known what to do or where to call.

I have received an imbra denial due to last years petition and they barely gave me time to respond. I sent the letter in as fast as I could.

What can I do now? Can I marry him with the k3? WHat are my options. This battered wife law is ruining my life...

Wow, that really sucks. You are the first that I have heard of to have a problem with the IMBRA law. I had a feeling it was going to be enforced more before long but I hate to see that. I think they were cutting some slack for the early guys as they got thier ducks in a row. The USCIS example of who could be granted an IMBRA waver always seemed to me to be extreame. I hope it does not become the standard.

Your best option if the K-1 is denied is a K-3. At this time IMBRA does not apply to K-3 applications. Good luck and keep us posted.

IMBRA multiple filing provisions do not apply to K-3. All others are suppose to.

I quickly sent the waiver letter request back last night but my gut feeling is that even though all these other people have been granted multiple petition waivers, I think they are now enforcing it and not granting the waivers anymore. I asked an attorney yesterday what to do. I asked him if I should just let them deny or it or write back and he told me I better respond because if I go to get the K3 or the I 130 the denial looks really bad. He said to answer it and then withdraw the k1 if we get married in the mean time. Everything on here said that imbra was no big deal

heres the crazy thng. I was a battered wife by an American for over 11 years. Here I go to try to build my life and this stupid law is hurting me.. This makes no sense. My other fiancee NEVER GOT HIS VISA or ever went to the interview. And here are people getting waivers from crimes and other people with multiple petitions.. some who even came here and here I am getting my waiver ignored and now I dont know which way to turn. I just sent the letter off last night. They did not give me any time to respond. Only 10 days. What if I would have been out of town? And then they didnt email me the notice. Its just came in the mail I feel like just getting married to him on this next trip which is in a couple of weeks. I dont know what to do exactly at this point.. I dont know if I should wait out the imbra appeal process and then appeal again or just get married and start a new case. I leave for Algeria in 10 days and its going to be hard for me to get back over there fast. My gut feeling is telling me to get married in Tunisia and start a K3 and withdraw this case when I get back.. This is a mess. everyne told me the waiver was no big deal... it is and they are nt giving them easy anymore

They are starting to strictly enforce imbra. I will let you know becacuse they sent me an intent to deny because of my petition a year and half ago and ignored the waiver request that I sent in with the petition and asked for another waiver. This makes no sense. I see all kind of people on here getting waivers for petitions in the last 2 years and multiple petitions. Time will tell what they do with my imbra waiver request. I think they will deny it.. Thats what my gut says. They have to start denying because they let so many people slip by so far this year. They have to start enforcing it.

I do not think they will give me the waiver and I think I will be forced to go the K3 route. I have wasted so much time on this.. Its HORRIBLE

I enclosed an IMBRA waiver in my fiancee petition. They ignored it and sent me an intent to deny due to IMBRA and requested I send another waiver. This was sent out on April 23rd, 2007 and arrived April 28th, 2007. I promptly requested a waiver and sent it right back. Several very weird things. Usually with an intent to deny they give you 30 days. This notice only gave me till May 8th to submit a waiver and on the second page ( not the blue sheet) it gave me 30. But the blue sheet onlygave me 15 days to have my waiver there. I talked to an attorney today that is a friend of mine. He told me it could be one of 2 things. Either they saw the waiver and no matter what they arent going to give it to me and just sent this out basically to expedite denial due to imbra. Or they are just missing the waiver and if they didint have it, they would have approved it. It seems strange to me that the information is being requested so quickly.. not giving me anytime to get all kinds of things together. April send out intent to deny only giving me till May 8th to request a waiver.

What do you think?
Do I have a chance with this or did they basically already turn me down since I had the waiver request in my original petition/

Have you ever seen them give such a short time for an RFE? Could this be a good thing? By the way the envelope was addressed to the RFE department and they sent an envelope with the paper that was adressed RFE. I found it odd that they enclosed an envelope. I also found it odd they gave me sucha short time to answer

Was it a good thing that nothing else was pointed out as a problem except the multiple petitions? Is there any light at the end of the tunnel? If i cannot get married can I file again March 7th of next year ( 2 exact years after the approval.? Should I just try to get m arried and get the I 130? Why did they RFE me with such a quick response time? Is there any chance I will get the waiver?


so if i dont have any kinds of criminal stuff against me, I shoud be fine with a ki3....?

Theoretically......

is there a chance with a short response time that I could be granted the waiver? I do not understand why they asked for the waiver if I enclosed it already