apgk
Feb 16 2007, 07:43 PM
In last few months, few times I have sent money using Western Union to my fiancee (for helping out with various general things and expenses).
Can I use such documents like western union receipts and CC charges for this an evidence towards ongoing relationship?
waitingforher30
Feb 16 2007, 07:50 PM
I would like to know the answer to this question also because I have several Western Union receipts dated over several months since my I-129F was received.
girlfrmoz
Feb 16 2007, 07:51 PM
Hi apgk,
I transferred money too and kept the receipts and used them for evidence. It can't hurt to add them into your pack to send off.
Good luck!
joeyjoey
Feb 16 2007, 07:52 PM
QUOTE(apgk @ Feb 16 2007, 06:43 PM)

In last few months, few times I have sent money using Western Union to my fiancee (for helping out with various general things and expenses).
Can I use such documents like western union receipts and CC charges for this an evidence towards ongoing relationship?
Credit card charges don't show who benefitted from the charge. Western Union doesn't show evidence of a relationship. Just shows that you sent money at a point in time. What about letters, cards, phone bills, hotel receipts with both names, photos together. You do have those, right? If you are limited in what evidence you have, then you have to use what you have. But I would think credit card receipts and western unions would be a last resort.
brnidokiegurl
Feb 16 2007, 07:53 PM
I was told to not show money changing hands as evidence.
azcactus
Feb 16 2007, 07:59 PM
Why wouldn't financial support show evodewnce? To me this would indicate that you at least love this person enough to insure that she has some financial support. I plan on using mine. I am importing from a 3rd world country tho.
K
Nagishkaw
Feb 16 2007, 08:00 PM
I would be a bit skeptical to submit them, because it may raise a few eyebrows . I tend to agree with joeyjoey , use them as a last resort if you are a bit slack in the evidence department.
brnidokiegurl
Feb 16 2007, 08:04 PM
The credit card receipts we used because we were both there in Morocco together on my trip and both names are on the cards.
apgk
Feb 16 2007, 08:10 PM
QUOTE(Nagishkaw @ Feb 16 2007, 05:00 PM)

I would be a bit skeptical to submit them, because it may raise a few eyebrows . I tend to agree with joeyjoey , use them as a last resort if you are a bit slack in the evidence department.
I have all other evidences - phone bills, letters, emails, photos together, travel documents - boarding passes, passport stamps, Visa, hotel receipts (in russian, getting them translated), travelers check conversion to cash receipts, engagement ring receipts and even photos, gifts like florist receipts, paid-for-her-airline-ticket-once-receipt.
In addition to all of the above, I was thinking of including the western union receipts also.
I thinking just like azcatus above, that if you have a relationship, then the fact that you are willing to support her financially makes that stand even more valid since there is real money involved.
However, some people (like brnidokiegurl, Nagishkaw) seem to be against it - what exactly is the reason not to show this? I can't seem to understand.
~Chad~
Feb 16 2007, 08:23 PM
The logic behind not submitting money-wires is the consul might think that he/she is just using you for money and, therefore, using you to come to the U.S.
If you have alot of other proof, I wouldn't risk that suspicion. Remeber, most consuls are not going to think "he loves her so much he sends her money". Instead, they will be looking for a reason to delay/deny the visa.
We will use receipts (engagement ring, gifts, plane tickets) to show as proof, but not money transfers.
MissStacey
Feb 16 2007, 08:26 PM
From your last post, it seems like you have lots of evidence.
I don't think you have much to worry about when it comes to that.
msu17
Feb 16 2007, 08:50 PM
Thinking ahead to the interview, what will they say about Western Union as evidence? Seeing how they like to assume the worst (SO using you for money) rather than you love them and want to make sure they are provided for, they might raise questions about financial support at the interview. Especially since your SO is from Russia, it seems like they get grilled a bit harder than other countries. Just my gut level reaction though.
Nikita2Charles
Feb 16 2007, 08:53 PM
If you have futher evidence I would keep the western union out. phone records, letters, stuff she send you and also stuff you send her, you can take those envelopes and make copies of them if you can blow them up to actually show her Country Stamp and also the Dates, that will link the communication between both of you, yahoo chat messenger transcrip of your chats, (hmmm keep the juciest stuff out) lol, just kidding, but mostly anything that link both of you together. For places with High fraud showing western union payment may or may not raise eyebrow as the the nature of your relationship, so I would play it safe but of course this is just my 2 cents(disclaimer : based on my personal experience only)
Yodrak
Feb 16 2007, 09:07 PM
apgk,
Yes, but consider for a moment what kind of relationship you might be providing evidence of.
Yodrak
QUOTE(apgk @ Feb 16 2007, 07:43 PM)

In last few months, few times I have sent money using Western Union to my fiancee (for helping out with various general things and expenses).
Can I use such documents like western union receipts and CC charges for this an evidence towards ongoing relationship?
dougyceci
Feb 16 2007, 09:46 PM
Interesting pile of posts here. I noticed you all have filed for K-1 visas. I am married, send money twice a month to my wife who argues each time I send it. I will have these receipts as part of our relationship. I guess to each their own opinion but I am not concerned that they will read to much into anything. If you have other evidence to me it would not hurt. Of course this is only one man's opinion, later on........................you will hear the rest of the story...........
Doug
brnidokiegurl
Feb 16 2007, 09:53 PM
Thinking the word MARRIED might make a big difference, i would assume they would know you help her,after marriage. (just me)
Yodrak
Feb 16 2007, 10:06 PM
brnidokiegurl,
After marriage, before marriage (the OP who first asked the question is not married yet) - if she (or he) was doing fine before you came into their life, why do they need your money now? Could it be that perhaps it's your money that makes you attractive to them.
One piece of a large jigsaw puzzle. What does the big picture look like?
Yodrak
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Feb 16 2007, 09:53 PM)

Thinking the word MARRIED might make a big difference, i would assume they would know you help her,after marriage. (just me)
dougyceci
Feb 17 2007, 07:31 AM
I agree with both of you, is only one part of the big picture and MARRIED is a big difference. I posted this, clarified my status for that reason. Many people here cannot discern the difference in the information posted. So for those married, they now have something to think about. What is obvious to some is not to others.
archie07
Feb 17 2007, 07:45 AM
QUOTE(apgk @ Feb 16 2007, 07:43 PM)

In last few months, few times I have sent money using Western Union to my fiancee (for helping out with various general things and expenses).
Can I use such documents like western union receipts and CC charges for this an evidence towards ongoing relationship?
Yes, they are perfect for reciepts, my wife did her interview feb 16 and the interviewer asked for reciepts. She had thousands of dollars worth of western union reciepts .. They are excellent evidence of an ongoing relationship, plus hundreds of emails and messenger chats. The chats are good to prove why we didnt make many phone calls. She said we chat for free on the yahoo site and both have mics and speakers. Interviewer was happy with that.
archie07
Feb 17 2007, 07:50 AM
QUOTE(archie07 @ Feb 17 2007, 07:45 AM)

QUOTE(apgk @ Feb 16 2007, 07:43 PM)

In last few months, few times I have sent money using Western Union to my fiancee (for helping out with various general things and expenses).
Can I use such documents like western union receipts and CC charges for this an evidence towards ongoing relationship?
Yes, they are perfect for reciepts, my wife did her interview feb 16 and the interviewer asked for reciepts. She had thousands of dollars worth of western union reciepts .. They are excellent evidence of an ongoing relationship, plus hundreds of emails and messenger chats. The chats are good to prove why we didnt make many phone calls. She said we chat for free on the yahoo site and both have mics and speakers. Interviewer was happy with that.
archie07
Feb 17 2007, 07:56 AM
QUOTE(archie07 @ Feb 17 2007, 07:50 AM)

QUOTE(archie07 @ Feb 17 2007, 07:45 AM)

QUOTE(apgk @ Feb 16 2007, 07:43 PM)

In last few months, few times I have sent money using Western Union to my fiancee (for helping out with various general things and expenses).
Can I use such documents like western union receipts and CC charges for this an evidence towards ongoing relationship?
Yes, they are perfect for reciepts, my wife did her interview feb 16 and the interviewer asked for reciepts. She had thousands of dollars worth of western union reciepts .. They are excellent evidence of an ongoing relationship, plus hundreds of emails and messenger chats. The chats are good to prove why we didnt make many phone calls. She said we chat for free on the yahoo site and both have mics and speakers. Interviewer was happy with that.
I just noticed she is your fiancee and your not married to her, but im sure helping out a little wouldnt hurt either. She must need some extra money for the internet cafes or for travel expenses to the cafes so I still think some western union reciepts are good evidence. Even if you pay her phone bill so she can call you or you can call her. The more evidence the better. We had over 100 emails and chats. The more the better.
Chris-n-Veronica
Feb 17 2007, 08:47 AM
I included... Western Union Receipts and then I got her a Ikobo Debit Card..that gives you a deposit history..and I included that even up to the large deposit I made on the card for her Interview in Romania....
Also not that you asked... but I included receipts for flowers I sent.. which corresponds with the pictures they took of her with the Roses.."Dates" ..
I think when it come to poof of relationship...I think the more the better and think outside of the box for things you didn't think of..
Looking4Wife
Feb 17 2007, 02:33 PM
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Feb 16 2007, 09:53 PM)

Thinking the word MARRIED might make a big difference, i would assume they would know you help her,after marriage. (just me)
They aren't married, yet... they're applying for a K-1... Yodrak's reaction was the same as mine...
brnidokiegurl
Feb 17 2007, 02:51 PM
Taking of MARRIED was in answer to another that said they were married.
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