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limah
I just want to know how many women have had the discussion of using birth control with your husbands or fiance? I have had the conversation with my husband and he insists thats it the best thing for us. Not only because he isn't here, he insists that for the first year we should use it as well. You know, wait until hes established himself and can take care of us. I work from home now, so I am looking forward to being this "at home mom"/"work from home"kinda chick.

Besides, that's all he wants, is to be able to take care of his wife and family.

Anybody????????????

Im sure this has been brought up before but maybe some points of view have changed..... One who agreed before may no longer agree..... and vice versa.


Limah heart.gif rose.gif
doodlebug
Both of us are against birth control.

My ex husband had me get my tubes tied which I hated doing but it was that or no sexlife since he was "done" and refused to get a vasectomy. As soon as my husband gets here our first trip together will be a long weekend to North Carolina where I'll be having a tubal reversal done. After that it's up to G-d how many kids we will have.
Henia
QUOTE(limah @ Feb 15 2007, 01:30 AM) *
I just want to know how many women have had the discussion of using birth control with your husbands or fiance? I have had the conversation with my husband and he insists thats it the best thing for us. Not only because he isn't here, he insists that for the first year we should use it as well. You know, wait until hes established himself and can take care of us. I work from home now, so I am looking forward to being this "at home mom"/"work from home"kinda chick.

Besides, that's all he wants, is to be able to take care of his wife and family.

Anybody????????????

Im sure this has been brought up before but maybe some points of view have changed..... One who agreed before may no longer agree..... and vice versa.


Limah heart.gif rose.gif



This topic has been tackled here already, but still a good topic.
My husband feels the same way, all he wants to do is take care of his family good.gif And ME/NA ppl in general want children soon after marriage, but I think ppl thinking with common sense would want to wait.
My husband and I both want children, me esp before I am 30. Buuuuut we both knowwe would want him there for the birth and the baby year... we both could not even imagine being apart then.
My husband is kinda c'est la vie about it... and I am actually not. He does not want me taking any birth control, and then thou I would I have had bad experiences medically with birth control...so we donnot. We practice common sense and family planning.
My husband wants to think i could just have the baby there (if I were pregnant) but I would rather not. But if it did happen, for sure I would having it there and apply for a N-600. If I had a baby here, with my current situation I would totally be screwed.
And I agree Limah, I would love and am wanting to be a work from home mom...buuuut it all depends when my husband gets here, if he could find work that has medical benefits unsure.gif
limah
I think I remember you talking about that before Doodle. I hope God blesses u and your husband with as many children as he sees fit and that you and your husband can handle. He never puts too much on our plates.

The decision for us to use it is of course a temporary thing. I learn something new everyday. I have never heard of this form you mention Henia. I'll mention it to my husband. I mean its not written in blood or anything that we absolutely have to use it. Medical benefits, another good point. My daughter is covered by her fathers insurance and I am not a sickly person, but I do have an individual plan that I think I'm paying waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much for.

This is why I posted a topic that I was 100% sure has been mentioned before. I am not one who is going to do a search and look up a topic. I like the freshest of the fresh responses.

Anybody that doesnt want to respond or repeat... how would I know anyway. But thanks ladies!!!!!!!!!!!!

Limah heart.gif rose.gif
wildroze22
im on the pill for reasons other than birth control... but i will be going off of it soon, and def when we are married. we both want kids, whenever hashem sees fit.

its not a religious belief or anything... just the simple fact that we both want kids
limah
QUOTE(wildroze22 @ Feb 15 2007, 01:51 AM) *
im on the pill for reasons other than birth control... but i will be going off of it soon, and def when we are married. we both want kids, whenever hashem sees fit.

its not a religious belief or anything... just the simple fact that we both want kids



I know my husband wants children, too. Very badly. But not to the point to where he would have me doing this on my own. Its not a religious thing either. A few friends of mine were saying to me, "Oh Girl, you know thats all he wants to do is get married and have kids. He is not going to "let" you take any birth control". I simply responded by saying, "And thats a bad thing?"I wouldn't go behind his back and take it. That is not what I am saying. One of the main reasons I love my husband is because he is always willing to talk about things. We have never had one argument, disagreement yes. But that was over my daughter showing her tukus in Morocco! laughing.gif

Limah heart.gif rose.gif

QUOTE(Henia @ Feb 15 2007, 01:37 AM) *
QUOTE(limah @ Feb 15 2007, 01:30 AM) *
I just want to know how many women have had the discussion of using birth control with your husbands or fiance? I have had the conversation with my husband and he insists thats it the best thing for us. Not only because he isn't here, he insists that for the first year we should use it as well. You know, wait until hes established himself and can take care of us. I work from home now, so I am looking forward to being this "at home mom"/"work from home"kinda chick.

Besides, that's all he wants, is to be able to take care of his wife and family.

Anybody????????????

Im sure this has been brought up before but maybe some points of view have changed..... One who agreed before may no longer agree..... and vice versa.


Limah heart.gif rose.gif



This topic has been tackled here already, but still a good topic.
My husband feels the same way, all he wants to do is take care of his family good.gif And ME/NA ppl in general want children soon after marriage, but I think ppl thinking with common sense would want to wait.
My husband and I both want children, me esp before I am 30. Buuuuut we both knowwe would want him there for the birth and the baby year... we both could not even imagine being apart then.
My husband is kinda c'est la vie about it... and I am actually not. He does not want me taking any birth control, and then thou I would I have had bad experiences medically with birth control...so we donnot. We practice common sense and family planning.
My husband wants to think i could just have the baby there (if I were pregnant) but I would rather not. But if it did happen, for sure I would having it there and apply for a N-600. If I had a baby here, with my current situation I would totally be screwed.
And I agree Limah, I would love and am wanting to be a work from home mom...buuuut it all depends when my husband gets here, if he could find work that has medical benefits unsure.gif



Where can I find this form?
Henia
QUOTE(limah @ Feb 15 2007, 01:59 AM) *
QUOTE(wildroze22 @ Feb 15 2007, 01:51 AM) *
im on the pill for reasons other than birth control... but i will be going off of it soon, and def when we are married. we both want kids, whenever hashem sees fit.

its not a religious belief or anything... just the simple fact that we both want kids



I know my husband wants children, too. Very badly. But not to the point to where he would have me doing this on my own. Its not a religious thing either. A few friends of mine were saying to me, "Oh Girl, you know thats all he wants to do is get married and have kids. He is not going to "let" you take any birth control". I simply responded by saying, "And thats a bad thing?"I wouldn't go behind his back and take it. That is not what I am saying. One of the main reasons I love my husband is because he is always willing to talk about things. We have never had one argument, disagreement yes. But that was over my daughter showing her tukus in Morocco! laughing.gif

Limah heart.gif rose.gif

QUOTE(Henia @ Feb 15 2007, 01:37 AM) *
QUOTE(limah @ Feb 15 2007, 01:30 AM) *
I just want to know how many women have had the discussion of using birth control with your husbands or fiance? I have had the conversation with my husband and he insists thats it the best thing for us. Not only because he isn't here, he insists that for the first year we should use it as well. You know, wait until hes established himself and can take care of us. I work from home now, so I am looking forward to being this "at home mom"/"work from home"kinda chick.

Besides, that's all he wants, is to be able to take care of his wife and family.

Anybody????????????

Im sure this has been brought up before but maybe some points of view have changed..... One who agreed before may no longer agree..... and vice versa.


Limah heart.gif rose.gif



This topic has been tackled here already, but still a good topic.
My husband feels the same way, all he wants to do is take care of his family good.gif And ME/NA ppl in general want children soon after marriage, but I think ppl thinking with common sense would want to wait.
My husband and I both want children, me esp before I am 30. Buuuuut we both knowwe would want him there for the birth and the baby year... we both could not even imagine being apart then.
My husband is kinda c'est la vie about it... and I am actually not. He does not want me taking any birth control, and then thou I would I have had bad experiences medically with birth control...so we donnot. We practice common sense and family planning.
My husband wants to think i could just have the baby there (if I were pregnant) but I would rather not. But if it did happen, for sure I would having it there and apply for a N-600. If I had a baby here, with my current situation I would totally be screwed.
And I agree Limah, I would love and am wanting to be a work from home mom...buuuut it all depends when my husband gets here, if he could find work that has medical benefits unsure.gif



Where can I find this form?



Are you talking about the N-600?
julianna
We're waiting until we pay off the debt from this immigration and save up some money 9and he is obviously here.) He wants four smile.gif
wised up too late
Leaving in the hands of the powers that be. We say what was meant to be will be and we will be blessed with all the children we will have.
Marry American
We have discussed birth control and have not come up with a solution for the future. We will try and have two children. After that some method of birth control will be used. My fiance wants to take care care of the baby and I, but he will not be able to support us to the level I currently live in the beginning. I will always work. I love my job most aspects of it besides the flying. My job also allows me to be at home some too.

My fiance really wants children very badly. All I hear, the baby, the baby, the baby. he he I am self sufficient. A second income is wonderful but if we do not have excellent child care then someone will stay home and care for the baby. I'm an anal parent and believe in being there-mommie or daddy. We will only use a babysitter when necessary.
Sheherazade
my fiance wants us to have children right away. i want them right away too but common sense tells me to wait.
i want spend more time together alone. enjoy ourselves for a while because this will be all so new to both of us! i don't know if it would be wise to add on another huge thing after him moving here, changing language, culture, trying to find a job and earn decent money, my parents, etc. i think we need to settle in more before we think about that. he also wants to take care of me and if i want to stay home. i can. so i don't see us trying to for a baby until he is settled into a career that would allow for that.
i also want to have a big wedding months after our civil marriage so i certainly want to wait until after that! i don't want to be pregnant in my gown. hehe
Aymerlu
My husband loves my kids and wants to get to know them better before we even begin to think about having another child. Plus we want to get to know each other better. There are so many adjustments and we would rather wait till another child comes into the home.
moody
good.gif

Exactly what we're planning as well. We had discussed getting pregnant right away but decided waiting at least a year would be best.

QUOTE(Aymerlu @ Feb 15 2007, 09:11 AM) *
My husband loves my kids and wants to get to know them better before we even begin to think about having another child. Plus we want to get to know each other better. There are so many adjustments and we would rather wait till another child comes into the home.

CarolineM
I agree with amy.

Stewart and I have definitely discussed...but we did so WAY before we got married. That's one of those conversations I think is an important PRE MARITAL talk.
Together4ever
I would be in big trouble if I even considered discussing the subject here. whistling.gif tongue.gif
Donna A
my husband wanted me on the pill. the agreement was for a year so he could make sure our marriege was stable. since he has issues because his ex wife got pregnant and they were not getting along...she left when his daughter was 6 weeks old and he feels guilty cuz his daughter never had a father so he dont want that happening again.

well after a year he still didnt have a job so that was the next excuse he used.

now he has a job and guess what he is still not ready. ive finally just accepted im not having a baby. im too old now and he will never be ready.
amal
Before we can think about having kids, I have to have a tubal reversal done and make sure my kidney is functioning properly. BUT... We both agree that we have to wait until we are more financially stable before even starting anything. I'm already 27 and I'd like to have more before I turn 30. I would really like to adopt a child about 3 years younger than my son, so he could have someone to play with (too close to his age and they would be in too much competition) and then have 2 or 3 more naturally...
doodlebug
QUOTE(amal @ Feb 15 2007, 11:13 AM) *
Before we can think about having kids, I have to have a tubal reversal done and make sure my kidney is functioning properly. BUT... We both agree that we have to wait until we are more financially stable before even starting anything. I'm already 27 and I'd like to have more before I turn 30. I would really like to adopt a child about 3 years younger than my son, so he could have someone to play with (too close to his age and they would be in too much competition) and then have 2 or 3 more naturally...



hey maybe we can do the reversal together!!!! that would rock!!!! we could be tubal buddies. smile.gif
charles!
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Feb 15 2007, 10:56 AM) *
hey maybe we can do the reversal together!!!! that would rock!!!! we could be tubal buddies. smile.gif

laughing.gif now that's a term i've never heard before good.gif
amal
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Feb 15 2007, 10:56 AM) *
QUOTE(amal @ Feb 15 2007, 11:13 AM) *
Before we can think about having kids, I have to have a tubal reversal done and make sure my kidney is functioning properly. BUT... We both agree that we have to wait until we are more financially stable before even starting anything. I'm already 27 and I'd like to have more before I turn 30. I would really like to adopt a child about 3 years younger than my son, so he could have someone to play with (too close to his age and they would be in too much competition) and then have 2 or 3 more naturally...



hey maybe we can do the reversal together!!!! that would rock!!!! we could be tubal buddies. smile.gif

headline:
d-to-da-oodle and amal go to the hospital as "tubal buddies" to get their ladies back in proper working order.
that would be too cool...how much does it cost anyway? here 'round me it is somewhere in the vicinity of 5000 dollars....

I realized I didn't post on what we thought of b/c.. we will practice safe methods but I can't tolerate b/c pills, they mess me up mentally. I tried them for quite some time before and during my first marriage and all the types I tried made me hate everybody and everything! No B/C for ME!!
doodlebug
QUOTE(amal @ Feb 15 2007, 12:11 PM) *
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Feb 15 2007, 10:56 AM) *
QUOTE(amal @ Feb 15 2007, 11:13 AM) *
Before we can think about having kids, I have to have a tubal reversal done and make sure my kidney is functioning properly. BUT... We both agree that we have to wait until we are more financially stable before even starting anything. I'm already 27 and I'd like to have more before I turn 30. I would really like to adopt a child about 3 years younger than my son, so he could have someone to play with (too close to his age and they would be in too much competition) and then have 2 or 3 more naturally...



hey maybe we can do the reversal together!!!! that would rock!!!! we could be tubal buddies. smile.gif

headline:
d-to-da-oodle and amal go to the hospital as "tubal buddies" to get their ladies back in proper working order.
that would be too cool...how much does it cost anyway? here 'round me it is somewhere in the vicinity of 5000 dollars....

I realized I didn't post on what we thought of b/c.. we will practice safe methods but I can't tolerate b/c pills, they mess me up mentally. I tried them for quite some time before and during my first marriage and all the types I tried made me hate everybody and everything! No B/C for ME!!



I believe the guy in North Carolina is charging $5000 if you pay up front. It might be $6000 though...I'm not sure but he has a really good reputation.
amal
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Feb 15 2007, 11:26 AM) *
QUOTE(amal @ Feb 15 2007, 12:11 PM) *
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Feb 15 2007, 10:56 AM) *
QUOTE(amal @ Feb 15 2007, 11:13 AM) *
Before we can think about having kids, I have to have a tubal reversal done and make sure my kidney is functioning properly. BUT... We both agree that we have to wait until we are more financially stable before even starting anything. I'm already 27 and I'd like to have more before I turn 30. I would really like to adopt a child about 3 years younger than my son, so he could have someone to play with (too close to his age and they would be in too much competition) and then have 2 or 3 more naturally...



hey maybe we can do the reversal together!!!! that would rock!!!! we could be tubal buddies. smile.gif

headline:
d-to-da-oodle and amal go to the hospital as "tubal buddies" to get their ladies back in proper working order.
that would be too cool...how much does it cost anyway? here 'round me it is somewhere in the vicinity of 5000 dollars....

I realized I didn't post on what we thought of b/c.. we will practice safe methods but I can't tolerate b/c pills, they mess me up mentally. I tried them for quite some time before and during my first marriage and all the types I tried made me hate everybody and everything! No B/C for ME!!


I believe the guy in North Carolina is charging $5000 if you pay up front. It might be $6000 though...I'm not sure but he has a really good reputation.


ok..so we can find a place between you and i since 5k seems to be the going rate lol...
doodlebug
QUOTE(amal @ Feb 15 2007, 12:37 PM) *
ok..so we can find a place between you and i since 5k seems to be the going rate lol...



The three places I know of are in North Carolina, Georgia and Florida. I forget where you're from but I remember saying to you "where the heck is that". lol
amal
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Feb 15 2007, 01:04 PM) *
QUOTE(amal @ Feb 15 2007, 12:37 PM) *
ok..so we can find a place between you and i since 5k seems to be the going rate lol...



The three places I know of are in North Carolina, Georgia and Florida. I forget where you're from but I remember saying to you "where the heck is that". lol

i was thinking that there was a place here in missouri that did those...like in st louis or something....hmmmm i'll have to check that out
Jenn!
QUOTE(donnaal @ Feb 15 2007, 10:04 AM) *
my husband wanted me on the pill. the agreement was for a year so he could make sure our marriege was stable. since he has issues because his ex wife got pregnant and they were not getting along...she left when his daughter was 6 weeks old and he feels guilty cuz his daughter never had a father so he dont want that happening again.

well after a year he still didnt have a job so that was the next excuse he used.

now he has a job and guess what he is still not ready. ive finally just accepted im not having a baby. im too old now and he will never be ready.


I'm really sorry to hear that. I think if it were me, I think I'd be bringing up that initial agreement again. This is really not fair to you. rose.gif
berean532000
Hi Limah. First, many women who take oral contraceptive fail to fully realize that it is a hormonal suppressing drug. This means that you can expect to have less of a desire for sex, less sexual thoughts about your husband, a drastic fluctuation in your moods, and ultimately less intercourse for you and your husband. Plus, long term use of the pill will permanently damage your libido and your desire for sex. Permanently! It won't come back. These side effects you can count on. I am studying to be a nurse and I do not understand why more doctors do not properly inform their patients of these unavoidable side effects.

Second, if you take the oral contraceptives long-term then you will have a high probability of having frequent migraines and feeling depressed, you will increase your chance of developing breast and cervical cancer, eventually you will probably have acne and an oily face, weight gain, breast tenderness, facial hair growth, and an increased risk for frequent and severe yeast infections.

Here is my suggestion. It is not for everyone but it can be fun if both you and your husband are committed to adhering to the method consistently. good.gif Try the rhythm method. It is 95% effective and nearly 100% effective if you wear a condom on the days in between your non-fertile cycle and your fertile cycle. In your fertile cycle then you just don't have intercourse. It's that simple. Not to say you can't have fun together. smile.gif I will keep this G rated. smile.gif If both of you are imaginative and committed to the method then it can be very very fun.
moody
An atty who used to work in my office used the rhythm method for the first 3 yrs of marriage and it worked! They stopped when they were trying to get pg.
amal
I was only on the pill for a couple years but I have absolutely no libido whatsoever! I could care less if it ever crossed my path again to be quite honest. My poor husband. They need to put some libido enhansing flakes in the B/C pills or something lol
Henia
QUOTE(i adore you @ Feb 15 2007, 08:51 AM) *
I'm an anal parent and believe in being there-mommie or daddy. We will only use a babysitter when necessary.

Here Here
Pigu
QUOTE(berean532000 @ Feb 15 2007, 08:51 PM) *
I am studying to be a nurse and I do not understand why more doctors do not properly inform their patients of these unavoidable side effects.


It's because they're nonsense. 60% of women use this pill with no side effects, and the vast majority of the remaining 40% have only minor effects.

http://www.unm.edu/~shc1/pill-side-effects.html

QUOTE(berean532000 @ Feb 15 2007, 08:51 PM) *
Try the rhythm method.


Yeah, my parents tried the rhythm method. That's how I got born, in fact.
heishe
QUOTE(Pigu @ Feb 15 2007, 04:40 PM) *
Yeah, my parents tried the rhythm method. That's how I got born, in fact.


Yay for rhythm! heart.gif heart.gif heart.gif
berean532000
Hi Pigu. I think if you feel that oral contraceptives is the best choice for you then I say go for it!!

With that being said, I don't think it's fair for you to quote statistics and then totally disregard major side effects, whether seen or unseen, which are real life side effects experienced by many woman who use oral contraceptives. It is irresponsible for you to claim that shutting down, and sometimes off, a woman's normal hormonal igniter and regulator in the brain has no adverse side effects or consequences. I think it is very important for a woman to understand that the depressed feelings, emotional imbalances, sexual apathy, and physical reactions she may experience while taking oral contraceptives may not be her fault. I think as a medical community we need to teach women and make them more aware of these potential real life adverse reactions.

As far as your criticism of the Rhythm Method goes, as I stated before, this method is not for everyone.

With than being said, for those who's menstrual cycle is between 26-32 days and if they do not mind committing themselves to a strict adherence to a natural birth control method, then the Rhythm Method can be used as a very very accurate, healthy, and effective way to prevent pregnancy. Just like any other method of birth control, some work for some women and some do not depending on adherence to the method, (consistency to the fertile cycle--rhythm method) or (taking an oral contraceptive at the same time everyday--the pill). For example, the Pill is 92-99.7% effective as birth control based on adherence and consistency. The Rhythm Method is 95% effective based on adherence and consistency. (nearly 100% when used in conjunction with a condom on days in between the fertile cycle and the non fertile cycle.

There's the facts Pigu. I ask you, is a 3%-4% chance of becoming pregnant by using the natural Rhythm Method really worth the risks of taking a hormonal suppressing oral contraceptives? no0pb.gif Take care Pigu and Limha I hope this thread helped you. Berean.






QUOTE(Pigu @ Feb 15 2007, 03:40 PM) *
QUOTE(berean532000 @ Feb 15 2007, 08:51 PM) *
I am studying to be a nurse and I do not understand why more doctors do not properly inform their patients of these unavoidable side effects.


It's because they're nonsense. 60% of women use this pill with no side effects, and the vast majority of the remaining 40% have only minor effects.

http://www.unm.edu/~shc1/pill-side-effects.html

QUOTE(berean532000 @ Feb 15 2007, 08:51 PM) *
Try the rhythm method.


Yeah, my parents tried the rhythm method. That's how I got born, in fact.
doodlebug
The rythm method wasn't that reliable. Ask the 6 kids of my aunt or us four kids of my mom. I don't know anyone who uses that anymore. When I was Catholic the big method that my friends were using was NFP. It involves taking your temperature each day with a basal thermometer, charting your cycle, examining discharge, etc. It's very involved but it actually brought a lot of couples I know much closer together and actually enhanced their marriage in many ways.
amal
if u want'em, do it.... every day ... if you don't want'em, don't do it ...or at least use condoms
limah
QUOTE(Henia @ Feb 15 2007, 03:03 AM) *
QUOTE(limah @ Feb 15 2007, 01:59 AM) *
QUOTE(wildroze22 @ Feb 15 2007, 01:51 AM) *
im on the pill for reasons other than birth control... but i will be going off of it soon, and def when we are married. we both want kids, whenever hashem sees fit.

its not a religious belief or anything... just the simple fact that we both want kids



I know my husband wants children, too. Very badly. But not to the point to where he would have me doing this on my own. Its not a religious thing either. A few friends of mine were saying to me, "Oh Girl, you know thats all he wants to do is get married and have kids. He is not going to "let" you take any birth control". I simply responded by saying, "And thats a bad thing?"I wouldn't go behind his back and take it. That is not what I am saying. One of the main reasons I love my husband is because he is always willing to talk about things. We have never had one argument, disagreement yes. But that was over my daughter showing her tukus in Morocco! laughing.gif

Limah heart.gif rose.gif

QUOTE(Henia @ Feb 15 2007, 01:37 AM) *
QUOTE(limah @ Feb 15 2007, 01:30 AM) *
I just want to know how many women have had the discussion of using birth control with your husbands or fiance? I have had the conversation with my husband and he insists thats it the best thing for us. Not only because he isn't here, he insists that for the first year we should use it as well. You know, wait until hes established himself and can take care of us. I work from home now, so I am looking forward to being this "at home mom"/"work from home"kinda chick.

Besides, that's all he wants, is to be able to take care of his wife and family.

Anybody????????????

Im sure this has been brought up before but maybe some points of view have changed..... One who agreed before may no longer agree..... and vice versa.


Limah heart.gif rose.gif



This topic has been tackled here already, but still a good topic.
My husband feels the same way, all he wants to do is take care of his family good.gif And ME/NA ppl in general want children soon after marriage, but I think ppl thinking with common sense would want to wait.
My husband and I both want children, me esp before I am 30. Buuuuut we both knowwe would want him there for the birth and the baby year... we both could not even imagine being apart then.
My husband is kinda c'est la vie about it... and I am actually not. He does not want me taking any birth control, and then thou I would I have had bad experiences medically with birth control...so we donnot. We practice common sense and family planning.
My husband wants to think i could just have the baby there (if I were pregnant) but I would rather not. But if it did happen, for sure I would having it there and apply for a N-600. If I had a baby here, with my current situation I would totally be screwed.
And I agree Limah, I would love and am wanting to be a work from home mom...buuuut it all depends when my husband gets here, if he could find work that has medical benefits unsure.gif



Where can I find this form?



Are you talking about the N-600?



Yes, Henia. Thats the form I'm talking about. I would have replied sooner but I got bored and put in a few hours at the hospital to day.

Limah heart.gif rose.gif
Virtual wife
I thought we couldn't talk about sex here. unsure.gif
limah
QUOTE(Together4ever @ Feb 15 2007, 10:40 AM) *
I would be in big trouble if I even considered discussing the subject here. whistling.gif tongue.gif



Trouble??? Now why would that be? whistling.gif innocent.gif tongue.gif

Limah heart.gif rose.gif
limah
QUOTE(berean532000 @ Feb 15 2007, 07:38 PM) *
Hi Pigu. I think if you feel that oral contraceptives is the best choice for you then I say go for it!!

With that being said, I don't think it's fair for you to quote statistics and then totally disregard major side effects, whether seen or unseen, which are real life side effects experienced by many woman who use oral contraceptives. It is irresponsible for you to claim that shutting down, and sometimes off, a woman's normal hormonal igniter and regulator in the brain has no adverse side effects or consequences. I think it is very important for a woman to understand that the depressed feelings, emotional imbalances, sexual apathy, and physical reactions she may experience while taking oral contraceptives may not be her fault. I think as a medical community we need to teach women and make them more aware of these potential real life adverse reactions.

As far as your criticism of the Rhythm Method goes, as I stated before, this method is not for everyone.

With than being said, for those who's menstrual cycle is between 26-32 days and if they do not mind committing themselves to a strict adherence to a natural birth control method, then the Rhythm Method can be used as a very very accurate, healthy, and effective way to prevent pregnancy. Just like any other method of birth control, some work for some women and some do not depending on adherence to the method, (consistency to the fertile cycle--rhythm method) or (taking an oral contraceptive at the same time everyday--the pill). For example, the Pill is 92-99.7% effective as birth control based on adherence and consistency. The Rhythm Method is 95% effective based on adherence and consistency. (nearly 100% when used in conjunction with a condom on days in between the fertile cycle and the non fertile cycle.

There's the facts Pigu. I ask you, is a 3%-4% chance of becoming pregnant by using the natural Rhythm Method really worth the risks of taking a hormonal suppressing oral contraceptives? no0pb.gif Take care Pigu and Limha I hope this thread helped you. Berean.






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QUOTE(berean532000 @ Feb 15 2007, 08:51 PM) *
I am studying to be a nurse and I do not understand why more doctors do not properly inform their patients of these unavoidable side effects.


It's because they're nonsense. 60% of women use this pill with no side effects, and the vast majority of the remaining 40% have only minor effects.

http://www.unm.edu/~shc1/pill-side-effects.html

QUOTE(berean532000 @ Feb 15 2007, 08:51 PM) *
Try the rhythm method.


Yeah, my parents tried the rhythm method. That's how I got born, in fact.



Thanx for everyone for yer input, experiences, and advice. I am also in healthcare Berean for the last 8 tears. Not nursing, but I have some very helpful and informative physicians I work with from time to time. They informed of the very same things you mentioned here. I have taken birth control, and have had no side effects. It was short term tho and my reasons were completely different from the reasons my husband and I speak of now.

The rythym method..... that would probably throw off my "rhythm". It's work to keep it consistent, more than setting the reminder on the cell phone for reminder to take "the pill". (Thats how I remembered everyday).

I may just say bump the madness and get this form Henia mentioned and have a baby now!!!!!!! (Not on purpose, but not NOT on purpose!!!!!!!!)

Limah heart.gif rose.gif
Henia
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QUOTE(wildroze22 @ Feb 15 2007, 01:51 AM) *
im on the pill for reasons other than birth control... but i will be going off of it soon, and def when we are married. we both want kids, whenever hashem sees fit.

its not a religious belief or anything... just the simple fact that we both want kids



I know my husband wants children, too. Very badly. But not to the point to where he would have me doing this on my own. Its not a religious thing either. A few friends of mine were saying to me, "Oh Girl, you know thats all he wants to do is get married and have kids. He is not going to "let" you take any birth control". I simply responded by saying, "And thats a bad thing?"I wouldn't go behind his back and take it. That is not what I am saying. One of the main reasons I love my husband is because he is always willing to talk about things. We have never had one argument, disagreement yes. But that was over my daughter showing her tukus in Morocco! laughing.gif

Limah heart.gif rose.gif

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QUOTE(limah @ Feb 15 2007, 01:30 AM) *
I just want to know how many women have had the discussion of using birth control with your husbands or fiance? I have had the conversation with my husband and he insists thats it the best thing for us. Not only because he isn't here, he insists that for the first year we should use it as well. You know, wait until hes established himself and can take care of us. I work from home now, so I am looking forward to being this "at home mom"/"work from home"kinda chick.

Besides, that's all he wants, is to be able to take care of his wife and family.

Anybody????????????

Im sure this has been brought up before but maybe some points of view have changed..... One who agreed before may no longer agree..... and vice versa.


Limah heart.gif rose.gif



This topic has been tackled here already, but still a good topic.
My husband feels the same way, all he wants to do is take care of his family good.gif And ME/NA ppl in general want children soon after marriage, but I think ppl thinking with common sense would want to wait.
My husband and I both want children, me esp before I am 30. Buuuuut we both knowwe would want him there for the birth and the baby year... we both could not even imagine being apart then.
My husband is kinda c'est la vie about it... and I am actually not. He does not want me taking any birth control, and then thou I would I have had bad experiences medically with birth control...so we donnot. We practice common sense and family planning.
My husband wants to think i could just have the baby there (if I were pregnant) but I would rather not. But if it did happen, for sure I would having it there and apply for a N-600. If I had a baby here, with my current situation I would totally be screwed.
And I agree Limah, I would love and am wanting to be a work from home mom...buuuut it all depends when my husband gets here, if he could find work that has medical benefits unsure.gif



Where can I find this form?



Are you talking about the N-600?



Yes, Henia. Thats the form I'm talking about. I would have replied sooner but I got bored and put in a few hours at the hospital to day.

Limah heart.gif rose.gif


http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/N-600.pdf


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The USCIS has reengineered its processing in order to streamline the production of Certificates of Citizenship for certain children adopted abroad. Streamlined processes have been developed for newly entering IR-3 children who are automatically U.S. Citizens when they arrive. These newly entering IR-3 children will receive Certificates of Citizenship within 45 days of their arrival instead of receiving a Permanent Resident Card and then filing the
N-600 for a Certificate. (Please see our Fact Sheet for additional information)


Background
The Child Citizenship Act, which became effective on February 27, 2001,amended the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) to provide U.S. citizenship to certain foreign-born children-including adopted children-of U.S. citizens. Specifically, these children include:
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This legislation represents a significant and important change in the nationality laws of the United States. The changes made by the CCA authorize the automatic acquisition of citizenship and permanently protect the adopted children of U.S. citizens from deportation.

In general, children who are younger than 18 years of age and have at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen whether by birth or naturalization will benefit from this new law. Under the CCA, qualifying children who immigrate to the United States with a U.S. citizen parent automatically acquire U.S. citizenship upon entry; children who live abroad acquire citizenship on approval of an application and the taking of the oath of allegiance.


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Under CCA, your child will automatically acquire U.S. citizenship on the date that all of the following requirements are satisfied:
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3) What documentation can I get of my child's citizenship?

If your child permanently resides in the U.S, you can obtain evidence of your child’s citizenship by applying for a Certificate of Citizenship. You will need to file form N-600 (Application for Certificate of Citizenship) and submit it to the local USCIS District Office or Sub-Office that holds jurisdiction over your permanent residence. You can also apply for a U.S. passport from the Department of State.

If your child permanently resides abroad, your child does not qualify for automatic citizenship under the CCA. However, you can apply for citizenship for your child by filing form N-600K (Application for Citizenship and Issuance of Certificate Under Section 322). You can submit this form to any USCIS District Office or Sub-Office in the United States.

4) Will USCIS automatically provide me with documentation of my child's citizenship?

At the present time, USCIS is not able to automatically provide most parents with documentation of their foreign-born child’s citizenship. However, USCIS has implemented a streamlined process for newly entering IR-3 children and their families that will ensure they receive a Certificate of Citizenship within 45 days of entering the United States. Additionally, USCIS has implemented procedures to expedite processing of pending N-643 cases. If you previously filed an N-643 application and have not received your child’s Certificate of Citizenship please contact the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283. Please have the following information when you call: your child’s A-number and the location and date you filed the application.

5) What forms do I file and what are the fees?

If your child permanently resides in the U.S., you can apply for evidence of citizenship by filing form N-600 (Application for Certificate of Citizenship). If you are filing on behalf of an adopted minor child, the fee is $215 (all other applicants must pay $255).

If your child permanently resides abroad, you can apply for citizenship by filing form N-600K (Application for Citizenship and Issuance of Certificate Under Section 322). If you are filing on behalf of an adopted minor child, the fee is $215 (all other applicants must pay $255).

6) Where should I file the forms?

If your child permanently resides in the U.S., you can file form N-600 (Application for Certificate of Citizenship) at the USCIS District Office or Sub-Office that that holds jurisdiction over your permanent residence.

If your child permanently resides abroad, you can apply for citizenship by filing form N-600K (Application for Citizenship and Issuance of Certificate Under Section 322) at any USCIS District Office or Sub-Office in the United States. You and your child will need to travel to the United States to complete the application process

7) Is automatic citizenship provided for those who are 18 years of age or older?

No. Individuals who are 18 years of age or older on February 27, 2001, do not qualify for citizenship under the CCA, even if they meet all other criteria. If they wish to become U.S. citizens, they must apply for naturalization and meet eligibility requirements that currently exist for adult lawful permanent residents.

8) Will USCIS publish regulations on the CCA procedures?

The USCIS published interim regulations specific to the CCA in the Federal Register on June 13, 2001. The USCIS is reviewing comments received from individuals and organizations and is in the process of drafting the final regulation.

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kerewin21
Let's just say I'm a big fan of birth control... too many teen mommies in my clinic! But it's not right for everyone.

A great link for all the birth control options:

http://www.reproductiveaccess.org/consumers/contra_info.htm (but doesn't include the rhythm method which is actually fairly effective when used properly)
meauxna
QUOTE(limah @ Feb 15 2007, 06:19 PM) *
I may just say bump the madness and get this form Henia mentioned and have a baby now!!!!!!! (Not on purpose, but not NOT on purpose!!!!!!!!)

I'm so curious!
What will this form do to change the equation?
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