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shona
I'm feeling really down at the moment. I have waited 1 year and now 3 months for my I-360(vawa) petition to be adjudicated (including contacting my congress person 3 times). I have been to a removal hearing with another due in April. I sent back my RFE's in December and they said I would here something within 60 days. They have touched my case twice on the 23rd/24th January and tomorrow it will be 60 days. I have heard nothing else. I've been patient to the extreme


I cannot work, cannot get benefits (even though the Prima Facie I got said I could). I am living in sh#t hole of a place with friends helping me out. For the last week I have had no water and today received a letter regarding my sons emergency hospital visits which took place in May/June last year. They will not help financially and I'm expected to pay $1700 within 10 days.

I'm sorry I just needed to vent. crying.gif


Shona
KarenCee
Oh Shona....my heart is breaking for you. I will keep you and your son in my thoughts and hope you hear something positive soon. As for the hospital bill, I can't believe they refuse to help. Do they have an indigent fund? Our local hospital has this kind of funding to help with situations such as this. Have you tried talking to a patient representative? Sometimes this helps. *sigh* I do wish I could do more than offer advice. I can light some candles for you though and will do so tonight. smile.gif
Moonie
As far as with the doctor bill pay what you can, I am not sure how it is in your state but they can't really do anything to you if you can't pay it just send you to collections. Write a letter to the people requesting the money stating that you are not able to work and send them 5 dollars or nothing at all. They should have 30 days to respond to you in writing if not then I don't think they can persue it. I did that with a hosptial bill. I did not have insurance went in for TESTS and was charged $5000 I wrote them a letter saying the charges were incorrect and they never responded and I never paid a dime and it has never shown up on my credit report. ::shrug::

I know it may not seem that way but things do get better...
jane2005
That's so sad. sad.gif
SoL.
I am sorry Shona and hope things get better for you soon rose.gif
marcycat
Wow, that all sounds awful. I don't have any good advice about the hospital bills, but there might be some resources available through the state. I know Wisconsin has programs for uninsured children. You might want to look into CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program.) I have no idea if your son would be eligible, but it's worth a try, and maybe it will direct you towards other resources. Here's a couple of links:

http://www.amsa.org/cph/CHIP.cfm
http://www.amsa.org/cah/chiplinks.cfm

Hang in there!
babybunny
GO to Church! maybe the churchs in your area and also the catholic charities can help you get your water on and also give you food, clothing. they also can help with other things too go see them. you have to humble yourself but, they will help you.
The_dip_sticks
Im sorry that you are in this situation, I hope that you are able to work things out and that God may help you resolve your troubles.
MrsBruce5
Hi Shona,

Just know that it won't last forever. Things WILL get better.

If I can offer one piece of unsolicited advice-be pro-active in your cause. Start making calls to find out what's up with your I-360.
Phone each day if you have to-and keep phoning your congressman until you get results. Make a lot of noise-and tell them you're going to go to your local news channel to have them do a human interest story. Be prepared to go forward with the local news. People WILL listen, and people will act.

As far as the hospital goes-they may or may not put it in for collections-and you will have a chance to respond. Tell them you're unable to work, and that you cannot afford to pay them.
My husband works for a company that bills hospitals. He does all the databases and sees what happens with billing. He tells me that they have the ability to simply write it off as a "bad debt". They may or may not attach it to your credit-however, he tells me that it is likely that it may just be simpler for them to write it off. There is also a good possibility that it will never make it to collections. Right now, don't concern yourself over it. It is just a"bill"-to hell with it.

Keep strong and know things are temporary. My thoughts are with you.

((((HUGS))))


Rose


diadromous mermaid
QUOTE(shona @ Feb 9 2007, 05:39 PM) *
I'm feeling really down at the moment. I have waited 1 year and now 3 months for my I-360(vawa) petition to be adjudicated (including contacting my congress person 3 times). I have been to a removal hearing with another due in April. I sent back my RFE's in December and they said I would here something within 60 days. They have touched my case twice on the 23rd/24th January and tomorrow it will be 60 days. I have heard nothing else. I've been patient to the extreme


I cannot work, cannot get benefits (even though the Prima Facie I got said I could). I am living in sh#t hole of a place with friends helping me out. For the last week I have had no water and today received a letter regarding my sons emergency hospital visits which took place in May/June last year. They will not help financially and I'm expected to pay $1700 within 10 days.

I'm sorry I just needed to vent. crying.gif


Shona


What's the snag with the benefits, Shona? The reason a Prima Facie Determination is made, subject to the initial application appearing to be valid, of course, is with the express purpose that the determination will make certain benefits available to the petitioning alien, while the case is being adjudicated!
dmartmar
QUOTE
I'm feeling really down at the moment. I have waited 1 year and now 3 months for my I-360(vawa) petition to be adjudicated (including contacting my congress person 3 times). I have been to a removal hearing with another due in April. I sent back my RFE's in December and they said I would here something within 60 days. They have touched my case twice on the 23rd/24th January and tomorrow it will be 60 days. I have heard nothing else. I've been patient to the extreme

I cannot work, cannot get benefits (even though the Prima Facie I got said I could). I am living in sh#t hole of a place with friends helping me out. For the last week I have had no water and today received a letter regarding my sons emergency hospital visits which took place in May/June last year. They will not help financially and I'm expected to pay $1700 within 10 days.

I'm sorry I just needed to vent.
Well Shona, I guess you're finally realizing it isn't as simple and quick as you thought it'd be. Maybe if you had stayed married and done everything through your husband, your case would've been approved a long time ago! It is you who put yourself in this position. Dig it?

QUOTE
Hi Shona,

Phone each day if you have to-and keep phoning your congressman until you get results. Make a lot of noise-and tell them you're going to go to your local news channel to have them do a human interest story. Be prepared to go forward with the local news. People WILL listen, and people will act.

As far as the hospital goes-they may or may not put it in for collections-and you will have a chance to respond. Tell them you're unable to work, and that you cannot afford to pay them.

There is also a good possibility that it will never make it to collections. Right now, don't concern yourself over it. It is just a"bill"-to hell with it.


Yeah Shona! And after you send this one bill to hell, do the same with the next, and the next, and the next, and the next, until eventually you send them all to hell! There's nothing better than having you and your husband's life made public, denigrating the people you hope will adjudicate your waiver on TV and take advantage of that same health system who was kind enough to take care of your son in his time of need. Don't forget to make your husband look as evil as possible so people really buy your story and feel very sorry for you!

QUOTE
What's the snag with the benefits, Shona? The reason a Prima Facie Determination is made, subject to the initial application appearing to be valid, of course, is with the express purpose that the determination will make certain benefits available to the petitioning alien, while the case is being adjudicated!


Even with benefits, I would assume that Shona is going to get a job and work. After all, she does owe the hospital some dough!
broma25
QUOTE(dmartmar @ Feb 12 2007, 04:41 PM) *
QUOTE
I'm feeling really down at the moment. I have waited 1 year and now 3 months for my I-360(vawa) petition to be adjudicated (including contacting my congress person 3 times). I have been to a removal hearing with another due in April. I sent back my RFE's in December and they said I would here something within 60 days. They have touched my case twice on the 23rd/24th January and tomorrow it will be 60 days. I have heard nothing else. I've been patient to the extreme

I cannot work, cannot get benefits (even though the Prima Facie I got said I could). I am living in sh#t hole of a place with friends helping me out. For the last week I have had no water and today received a letter regarding my sons emergency hospital visits which took place in May/June last year. They will not help financially and I'm expected to pay $1700 within 10 days.

I'm sorry I just needed to vent.
Well Shona, I guess you're finally realizing it isn't as simple and quick as you thought it'd be. Maybe if you had stayed married and done everything through your husband, your case would've been approved a long time ago! It is you who put yourself in this position. Dig it?

QUOTE
Hi Shona,

Phone each day if you have to-and keep phoning your congressman until you get results. Make a lot of noise-and tell them you're going to go to your local news channel to have them do a human interest story. Be prepared to go forward with the local news. People WILL listen, and people will act.

As far as the hospital goes-they may or may not put it in for collections-and you will have a chance to respond. Tell them you're unable to work, and that you cannot afford to pay them.

There is also a good possibility that it will never make it to collections. Right now, don't concern yourself over it. It is just a"bill"-to hell with it.
Yeah Shona! And after you send this one bill to hell, do the same with the next, and the next, and the next, and the next, until eventually you send them all to hell! There's nothing better than having you and your husband's life made public, denigrating the people you hope will adjudicate your waiver on TV and take advantage of that same health system who was kind enough to take care of your son in his time of need. Don't forget to make your husband look as evil as possible so people really buy your story and feel very sorry for you!

QUOTE
What's the snag with the benefits, Shona? The reason a Prima Facie Determination is made, subject to the initial application appearing to be valid, of course, is with the express purpose that the determination will make certain benefits available to the petitioning alien, while the case is being adjudicated!


Even with benefits, I would assume that Shona is going to get a job and work. After all, she does owe the hospital some dough!



Wow, kick a girl when she is down why don't ya!!!!
dmartmar
QUOTE
Wow, kick a girl when she is down why don't ya!!!!


It's just that one thing really has nothing to do with the other.

Or do they?
Moonie
Ouch
shona
Thank you so much for those who have sent helpful advice and kinds thoughts. I really appreciate it.

I have water now, after my landlord finally fixed the pump.

I am trying to sort out the bills and had already contacted the hospital a while back, who stated they would try and get me help, but on Friday replied that they couldn't. I have been in contact ,when need be, with my congress person and one of the reasons for a delay is that the immigration Court in Detroit took over 4 months to send my I360 back to Vermont. I will be contacting her again this week.


As for the benefits I applied in January 2005.

D. Mermaid : The 1996 Welfare Reform Act states the immigrants cannot get benefits for the first 5 years. I have been to churches and, have been able to get free school meals for my son thankfully.

As for that one obnoxious person dmartmar "go to to hell and join my bills" Is this a case of deja vu where you were mean and nasty to me previously?. Do enlighten me as to your problems you have with me. Other than that, if you can't be a decent human being, then don't post and put people down when they already are.

For your information I 360's do take their time, but my petition has taken longer than most.

How dare you you to tell me I should have stayed with an abuser. My husband refused to go the AOS interview. Don't you ever read things correctly??????????????. He put me in this situation. DIG IT!!!!!!

I have every intention of working and paying my way. I have two Bachelor hons degrees, which includes one in teaching. I do not want to live on benefits and work on the side as you suggested. I just want to be able to work and pay my way like everyone else.

As my post stated, I just needed to vent.


Many many thanks again to all of you who had kind words to say and helpful advice to give.




Shona
MrsBruce5
QUOTE(shona @ Feb 13 2007, 09:24 AM) *
Thank you so much for those who have sent helpful advice and kinds thoughts. I really appreciate it.

I have water now, after my landlord finally fixed the pump.

I am trying to sort out the bills and had already contacted the hospital a while back, who stated they would try and get me help, but on Friday replied that they couldn't. I have been in contact ,when need be, with my congress person and one of the reasons for a delay is that the immigration Court in Detroit took over 4 months to send my I360 back to Vermont. I will be contacting her again this week.


As for the benefits I applied in January 2005.

D. Mermaid : The 1996 Welfare Reform Act states the immigrants cannot get benefits for the first 5 years. I have been to churches and, have been able to get free school meals for my son thankfully.

As for that one obnoxious person dmartmar "go to to hell and join my bills" Is this a case of deja vu where you were mean and nasty to me previously?. Do enlighten me as to your problems you have with me. Other than that, if you can't be a decent human being, then don't post and put people down when they already are.

For your information I 360's do take their time, but my petition has taken longer than most.

How dare you you to tell me I should have stayed with an abuser. My husband refused to go the AOS interview. Don't you ever read things correctly??????????????. He put me in this situation. DIG IT!!!!!!

I have every intention of working and paying my way. I have two Bachelor hons degrees, which includes one in teaching. I do not want to live on benefits and work on the side as you suggested. I just want to be able to work and pay my way like everyone else.

As my post stated, I just needed to vent.


Many many thanks again to all of you who had kind words to say and helpful advice to give.




Shona




Hi Shona-

Good to hear things are looking better. They will continue to improve with time.
Ignore the negativity and posts coming from dmartmar. This person is just bitter over God knows what...You don't need to explain yourself to ANYONE-especially him.
Keep strong. good.gif


Caladan
Ignore dmartmar; he's just bitter because his mail-order bride didn't come with a moneyback guarantee.

I second the recommendation for Catholic Charities; they don't care if you're Catholic, and they often have free or sliding-scale legal and financial help. They may be able to get the hospital off your back for the short term, or arrange a deal or payment plan that you can swing.

Hang in there.
Boiler
Not sure what the situation is in your State, but in mine you should not pay anything towards the Hospital Bill, all it does is just allow them longer to take any action.

You might want to consider Bankruptcy, may not be worth it for the current amount but once all the paperwork is sorted out something to consider, it will allow you a clean start.

It will take much much longer to repar your credit if you do not go Bankrupt, just the way the system is.
isleta521
Hey Shona,

Sorry that things didnt work out right. But give it some time. We all have hit rock bottom before and soon youll be on your feet again.

Good luck rose.gif
dmartmar
QUOTE
As for that one obnoxious person dmartmar "go to to hell and join my bills" Is this a case of deja vu where you were mean and nasty to me previously? Do enlighten me as to your problems you have with me. Other than that, if you can't be a decent human being, then don't post and put people down when they already are.

For your information I-360's do take their time, but my petition has taken longer than most.

As for the benefits, I applied in January 2005.

How dare you you to tell me I should have stayed with an abuser. My husband refused to go the AOS interview. Don't you ever read things correctly??????????????. He put me in this situation. DIG IT!!!!!!

I have every intention of working and paying my way. I have two Bachelor hons degrees, which includes one in teaching. I do not want to live on benefits and work on the side as you suggested. I just want to be able to work and pay my way like everyone else.


1st of all, re-read my post. Where does it read "go to hell and join my bills?" I was being sarcastic towards the person who's advice for you was to "send the bills to hell." Now what kind of advice is that?

2nd of all, it seems as if your husband's only abuse was refusing to attend your AOS interview, which in turn gave you no other option but to pursue a VAWA waiver. I guess that refusing to attend the interview can be construed as "power" and "control" and as such, mental abuse.

3rd of all, you had the option of going back to your home country after the marriage broke down, yet chose to adjust status by yourself instead.

4th of all, in the year and a half you've been waiting for your I-360 to be adjudicated, you've done nothing to try and better you and your son's situation, all the while living off other people, getting things for free and blaming it all on the USCIS.

5th of all, you don't want to live off benefits, yet applied for them in Jan. of '05.




dmartmar
QUOTE
I have been to churches and have been able to get free school meals for my son thankfully.

I have two Bachelor hons degrees, which includes one in teaching.


Is your son in school? How? Are you teaching?
Boiler
I have been umming and arring about mentioning this.

But anyway.

There is good case law that suggests that assuming an I-864 was submitted with the Adjustment of Status it can be enforced to provide Shona with benefit outside of any divorce settlement.

USCIS seem to consider that the Affadavit goes into force when PR status is granted, Courts have taken the view that it is not dependent on PR status.
munchkins
QUOTE(shona @ Feb 13 2007, 02:24 PM) *
Thank you so much for those who have sent helpful advice and kinds thoughts. I really appreciate it.

I have water now, after my landlord finally fixed the pump.

I am trying to sort out the bills and had already contacted the hospital a while back, who stated they would try and get me help, but on Friday replied that they couldn't. I have been in contact ,when need be, with my congress person and one of the reasons for a delay is that the immigration Court in Detroit took over 4 months to send my I360 back to Vermont. I will be contacting her again this week.


As for the benefits I applied in January 2005.

D. Mermaid : The 1996 Welfare Reform Act states the immigrants cannot get benefits for the first 5 years. I have been to churches and, have been able to get free school meals for my son thankfully.

As for that one obnoxious person dmartmar "go to to hell and join my bills" Is this a case of deja vu where you were mean and nasty to me previously?. Do enlighten me as to your problems you have with me. Other than that, if you can't be a decent human being, then don't post and put people down when they already are.

For your information I 360's do take their time, but my petition has taken longer than most.

How dare you you to tell me I should have stayed with an abuser. My husband refused to go the AOS interview. Don't you ever read things correctly??????????????. He put me in this situation. DIG IT!!!!!!

I have every intention of working and paying my way. I have two Bachelor hons degrees, which includes one in teaching. I do not want to live on benefits and work on the side as you suggested. I just want to be able to work and pay my way like everyone else.

As my post stated, I just needed to vent.


Many many thanks again to all of you who had kind words to say and helpful advice to give.




Shona


good.gif Good for you Shona, shows that you might be down but you are not out. sorry to hear of all these problems, I cannot give you any advice but I really hope that things get sorted quickly
MichelleandCraig
I rarely say things like this, but dmarter, you are such a fukcing aszhole....BITTER AS HELL or what??? wow. I disgrace myself by speaking that way to you but you know what? This one time, it was worth it. M.


ETA so sorry for what you're going through, Shona...hope you get it all sorted soon. You've been through WAY too much. rose.gif
shona
QUOTE(dmartmar @ Feb 13 2007, 06:59 PM) *
QUOTE
As for that one obnoxious person dmartmar "go to to hell and join my bills" Is this a case of deja vu where you were mean and nasty to me previously? Do enlighten me as to your problems you have with me. Other than that, if you can't be a decent human being, then don't post and put people down when they already are.

For your information I-360's do take their time, but my petition has taken longer than most.

As for the benefits, I applied in January 2005.

How dare you you to tell me I should have stayed with an abuser. My husband refused to go the AOS interview. Don't you ever read things correctly??????????????. He put me in this situation. DIG IT!!!!!!

I have every intention of working and paying my way. I have two Bachelor hons degrees, which includes one in teaching. I do not want to live on benefits and work on the side as you suggested. I just want to be able to work and pay my way like everyone else.


1st of all, re-read my post. Where does it read "go to hell and join my bills?" I was being sarcastic towards the person who's advice for you was to "send the bills to hell." Now what kind of advice is that?

2nd of all, it seems as if your husband's only abuse was refusing to attend your AOS interview, which in turn gave you no other option but to pursue a VAWA waiver. I guess that refusing to attend the interview can be construed as "power" and "control" and as such, mental abuse.

3rd of all, you had the option of going back to your home country after the marriage broke down, yet chose to adjust status by yourself instead.

4th of all, in the year and a half you've been waiting for your I-360 to be adjudicated, you've done nothing to try and better you and your son's situation, all the while living off other people, getting things for free and blaming it all on the USCIS.

5th of all, you don't want to live off benefits, yet applied for them in Jan. of '05.



1.You never said "go to hell and join my bills. I told you to go there with my bills !! due to your nastiness

2.You have no idea what went on in my marriage and the abuse ,that both myself and my children endured. My attorney has 7 pages of it. My reasons for applying went way beyond "my husband not attending the AOS interview" . If you have any idea of VAWA then you would know that this is insufficient.

3. Yes I chose to adjust . That was my choice - for many reasons.

4. Before anyone started to help me I sold all the assets ie house, jeep that I had after the divorce and used that money to live on until it ran out. Do you actually think I like relying on people? Are you an abused immigrant , if not then do tell me how I could have bettered myself-I'm intrigued

5. If one has no income, cannot work and has a child do you really think one has a choice in the matter whether they like it or not?. It's called survival. Do tell me what you would have done in this case since you criticise me so readily. I am not blaming IT ALL on USCIS. Taking 4 months to forward a file is excessive and telling you, you have some benefits when you actually can't justifies some blame. The person whom I actually blame is my ex for the abuse and the situation he has put me in.


6. I am NOT teaching or working. I am qualified to teach. Yes my son is in school.


OK I'm done with you. It's obvious you cannot even start to comprehend what I'm going through. I really don't know what your problem is but go get it sorted before you really hurt someone emotionally. You don't want to end up becoming an abuser yourself.
Happy Bunny
Shona, keeping you in my prayers and I hope things start to get easier for you.
shona
QUOTE(LisaD @ Feb 14 2007, 11:33 AM) *
Shona, keeping you in my prayers and I hope things start to get easier for you.



Thank you Lisa


SC & TF
Hey Shona, ignore that "dmartar" person. He's been on a different site www.ilw.com, posting insults too instead of giving advice. I can't believe he is also on this site. dmartar whoever you are, I've seen your comments on the other immigration site. You can't come here and do the same to VJ members. In case you don't realize it, we VJers are compassionate, and respectful of others and their situations. If you're not ready to give advice, then you shouldn't be allowed to post anything.
Good luck, Shona. I hope things get better. smile.gif
jane2005
I'm sure she has her reasons for staying. Luckily she is a great person (and educated) and once her application is approved, she will be finacially able to get all the that she and her children deserve.
LaL
i hope everything works out for you Shona. It's been a long, rough journey.
Sid and Nancy
Wow, Shona, your I-360 is taking such a long time... sad.gif You would think USCIS should help abused immigrants better... sad.gif

Please, be strong - things will work out for you in the near future!

I will pray for you and hope all goes well! rose.gif rose.gif rose.gif rose.gif rose.gif rose.gif rose.gif rose.gif
shona
Once again thanks to all of you.

I have spoken to hospital re my sons bills, and they have taken note that, I am awaiting a decision on my EAD ( which was filed a year ago now). I told her I couldn't pay anything and said I could send proof about not be able to work. ( She didn't need it )She made a note on my file and said that she can't guarantee it won't go to collections but at least I called and explained. ( I have done so many times before.) They won't do anything for the moment anyway- phew!!



Shona
arwensun1965
Hey Shona

Hopefully things will start to look up for you in the near future, you have done everything possible as a single parent and a Decent parent would. Best of luck and lots of wishes to you.

Janice
kamcia62
wacko.gif sorry for hear it... Yest..this is America... difficult place to life... I understand you very much... New place to lfe is absolutely different than your previous home life... Only strong people are survive. unsure.gif
I wasn't enought strong... so ...now I'm in Poland ..I back and waiting for my husband here in my own country. I have idea ...to do TOIFL... after that when I come back USA I will more ready to improve my life there. Go to shool... study ... and start in higher level then before.
I wish you many godd wishes to resolve all yours problems in USA. Maybe you should be more determinated with your life tasks there (more than I was)..
Best regards
Kamcia good.gif
coco's daddy
Shona, were u married, widowed, remarried then divorced and then applied for I-360? Isn't a 360 for widow(er)s who were married to USC for 2+ yrs & did not remarry?
shona
QUOTE(coco @ Feb 18 2007, 09:02 PM) *
Shona, were u married, widowed, remarried then divorced and then applied for I-360? Isn't a 360 for widow(er)s who were married to USC for 2+ yrs & did not remarry?



Hi there,

The I360 can be for widowers but is also for people who have been abused. I married on a K1, filed an I360 in November 2005 because of abuse and divorced in January 2006. I have never re-married. As yet I am not allowed to do so, otherwise the petition is denied. I have read conflicting information that one can remarry after the petition has been approved and also that you can't remarry until you AOS.

Either way I'm not ready to remarry.


Shona
Boiler
QUOTE(kamcia62 @ Feb 18 2007, 03:43 AM) *
wacko.gif sorry for hear it... Yest..this is America... difficult place to life... I understand you very much... New place to lfe is absolutely different than your previous home life... Only strong people are survive. unsure.gif
I wasn't enought strong... so ...now I'm in Poland ..I back and waiting for my husband here in my own country. I have idea ...to do TOIFL... after that when I come back USA I will more ready to improve my life there. Go to shool... study ... and start in higher level then before.
I wish you many godd wishes to resolve all yours problems in USA. Maybe you should be more determinated with your life tasks there (more than I was)..
Best regards
Kamcia good.gif


TOIFL?

Do you mean TOEFL?

Sorry just amused me.
diadromous mermaid
QUOTE(shona @ Feb 13 2007, 09:24 AM) *
D. Mermaid : The 1996 Welfare Reform Act states the immigrants cannot get benefits for the first 5 years. I have been to churches and, have been able to get free school meals for my son thankfully.

Shona,
I think it is time for you to get aggressive with the agencies that are denying you benefits, or approach the Department of Health and Human Services, armed with the following information. You might even consider emailing this person to enquire of how to proceed

Deeana Jang
Office for Civil Rights
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
200 Independence Avenue, SW
Room 506-F
Washington, DC 20201
Phone: (202) 619-0403
FAX: (202) 619-3818
e-mail: djang@os.dhhs.gov

Can battered immigrants get TANF, Medicaid or State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) benefits?

It depends upon whether the state has elected to provide these benefits to "qualified aliens," whether the applicant meets the definition of "qualified alien" and whether the battered immigrant entered the country prior to 8/22/96(3) or has been in "qualified alien" status for five years. 8 U.S.C. 1613 and 1612(cool.gif. If a state provides TANF, Medicaid or SCHIP benefits to "qualified aliens," then otherwise eligible battered immigrants who meet the definition of "qualified alien" and who entered before 8/22/96 or who have been in a "qualified alien" status for five years should be eligible. It should be noted that while certain immigrants are not eligible for federally funded benefits such as TANF, Food Stamps, Medicaid or SCHIP because of their immigration status, or because they have entered the country on or after 8/22/96 and have not been in a "qualified alien" status for five years, states may elect to provide state-funded benefits including income maintenance, nutrition assistance, or health care.

How do battered immigrants qualify for programs such as TANF, Medicaid or SCHIP?

As noted above, battered immigrants who are determined to be "qualified aliens" may be eligible for certain types of public assistance such as TANF, Medicaid or SCHIP. "Qualified aliens" include lawful permanent residents, refugees and asylees, persons granted withholding of removal (deportation), persons paroled for at least a year, those granted conditional entry prior to 4/1/80, Cuban and Haitian entrants, and certain battered immigrants.

In order for battered immigrants to be considered "qualified aliens," the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) or the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR or "immigration court") must make certain determinations regarding immigration status, and the benefits granting agency must make additional findings. To be considered a "qualified alien," a battered immigrant must show he or she has an approved OR pending petition which makes a prima facie case for immigration status under one of the following categories:


1. A Form I-130 petition filed by their spouse, or in the case of a child, by the parent or in the case of an unmarried adult son or daughter of a lawful permanent resident (LPR), by the parent.

2. A Form I-360 petition as a widow(er) of a United States citizen (USC) under 8 U.S.C. 1154(a)(1)(A)(ii).

3. An approved self-petition filed with the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) under the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) on Form I-360 OR an I-360 pending with the INS, and INS has issued a Notice of Prima Facie Determination. In addition, a child of a self-petitioner may also derive immigration status from the self-petition. INS should include the names of any qualifying children on the Notice of Approval or Notice of Prima Facie Determination. Review of these VAWA applications includes a determination that the applicant has been subject to battery or extreme cruelty.

4. An application for VAWA cancellation of removal or suspension of deportation has been granted OR is pending and the immigration court finds that the applicant has a prima facie case for this relief. Review of VAWA applications for cancellation/suspension includes a determination that the applicant has been subject to battery or extreme cruelty.

The Notice of Approval or the Notice of Prima Facie Determination may be presented to benefits granting agencies as evidence of status as a "qualified alien." Benefits granting agencies may verify this using procedures outlined in the"Interim Guidance on Verification of Citizenship, Qualified Alien Status and Eligibility Under Title VI of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996," AG Order No. 2129-97, 62 Fed. Reg. 61366 (November 17, 1997).

In order to be considered a "qualified alien," the person must demonstrate that he or she has been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty in the United States by a spouse or a parent, or by a member of the spouse or parent's family residing in the same household as the alien and the spouse or parent consented to, or acquiesced in, such battery or cruelty. The child of a battered immigrant or the parent of a battered child (as long as the parent did not actively participate in the battery or cruelty) can also be eligible for benefits. INS or the immigration court has already made the requisite determination of abuse as part of the self-petition or VAWA cancellation in the last two categories, described above. However, abuse is not part of the adjudication in the first two categories. Therefore, the benefits granting agency must make this determination. Applicants must provide evidence of battery or extreme cruelty to themselves or their children. Benefits providers are to consider any credible evidence of abuse that the applicant provides including, but not limited to, reports or affidavits from police, judges and other court officials, medical personnel, school officials, clergy, social workers, counseling or mental health personnel, and other social service agency personnel, protection orders, evidence that the applicant sought help from a battered women's shelter, photographs of injuries, affidavits from family members or others who have personal knowledge of the battery or extreme cruelty and the applicant's own credible affidavit.

In all of the above categories, benefits granting agencies must determine that there is a substantial connection between the need for benefits and the abuse and that they are no longer residing with the abuser. See "Guidance on Standards and Methods for Determining Whether a Substantial Connection Exists Between Battering or Extreme Cruelty and Need for Specific Public Benefits," 62 Fed. Reg. 65285 (December 11, 1997), and Exhibit B to Attachment 5 of the "Interim Guidance on Verification of Citizenship, Qualified Alien Status and Eligibility Under Title VI of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996," AG Order No. 2129-97, 62 Fed. Reg. 61366 (November 17, 1997).




shona
QUOTE(diadromous mermaid @ Feb 20 2007, 06:53 PM) *
QUOTE(shona @ Feb 13 2007, 09:24 AM) *
D. Mermaid : The 1996 Welfare Reform Act states the immigrants cannot get benefits for the first 5 years. I have been to churches and, have been able to get free school meals for my son thankfully.

Shona,
I think it is time for you to get aggressive with the agencies that are denying you benefits, or approach the Department of Health and Human Services, armed with the following information. You might even consider emailing this person to enquire of how to proceed

Deeana Jang
Office for Civil Rights
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
200 Independence Avenue, SW
Room 506-F
Washington, DC 20201
Phone: (202) 619-0403
FAX: (202) 619-3818
e-mail: djang@os.dhhs.gov

Can battered immigrants get TANF, Medicaid or State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) benefits?

It depends upon whether the state has elected to provide these benefits to "qualified aliens," whether the applicant meets the definition of "qualified alien" and whether the battered immigrant entered the country prior to 8/22/96(3) or has been in "qualified alien" status for five years. 8 U.S.C. 1613 and 1612(cool.gif. If a state provides TANF, Medicaid or SCHIP benefits to "qualified aliens," then otherwise eligible battered immigrants who meet the definition of "qualified alien" and who entered before 8/22/96 or who have been in a "qualified alien" status for five years should be eligible. It should be noted that while certain immigrants are not eligible for federally funded benefits such as TANF, Food Stamps, Medicaid or SCHIP because of their immigration status, or because they have entered the country on or after 8/22/96 and have not been in a "qualified alien" status for five years, states may elect to provide state-funded benefits including income maintenance, nutrition assistance, or health care.

How do battered immigrants qualify for programs such as TANF, Medicaid or SCHIP?

As noted above, battered immigrants who are determined to be "qualified aliens" may be eligible for certain types of public assistance such as TANF, Medicaid or SCHIP. "Qualified aliens" include lawful permanent residents, refugees and asylees, persons granted withholding of removal (deportation), persons paroled for at least a year, those granted conditional entry prior to 4/1/80, Cuban and Haitian entrants, and certain battered immigrants.

In order for battered immigrants to be considered "qualified aliens," the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) or the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR or "immigration court") must make certain determinations regarding immigration status, and the benefits granting agency must make additional findings. To be considered a "qualified alien," a battered immigrant must show he or she has an approved OR pending petition which makes a prima facie case for immigration status under one of the following categories:


1. A Form I-130 petition filed by their spouse, or in the case of a child, by the parent or in the case of an unmarried adult son or daughter of a lawful permanent resident (LPR), by the parent.

2. A Form I-360 petition as a widow(er) of a United States citizen (USC) under 8 U.S.C. 1154(a)(1)(A)(ii).

3. An approved self-petition filed with the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) under the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) on Form I-360 OR an I-360 pending with the INS, and INS has issued a Notice of Prima Facie Determination. In addition, a child of a self-petitioner may also derive immigration status from the self-petition. INS should include the names of any qualifying children on the Notice of Approval or Notice of Prima Facie Determination. Review of these VAWA applications includes a determination that the applicant has been subject to battery or extreme cruelty.

4. An application for VAWA cancellation of removal or suspension of deportation has been granted OR is pending and the immigration court finds that the applicant has a prima facie case for this relief. Review of VAWA applications for cancellation/suspension includes a determination that the applicant has been subject to battery or extreme cruelty.

The Notice of Approval or the Notice of Prima Facie Determination may be presented to benefits granting agencies as evidence of status as a "qualified alien." Benefits granting agencies may verify this using procedures outlined in the"Interim Guidance on Verification of Citizenship, Qualified Alien Status and Eligibility Under Title VI of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996," AG Order No. 2129-97, 62 Fed. Reg. 61366 (November 17, 1997).

In order to be considered a "qualified alien," the person must demonstrate that he or she has been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty in the United States by a spouse or a parent, or by a member of the spouse or parent's family residing in the same household as the alien and the spouse or parent consented to, or acquiesced in, such battery or cruelty. The child of a battered immigrant or the parent of a battered child (as long as the parent did not actively participate in the battery or cruelty) can also be eligible for benefits. INS or the immigration court has already made the requisite determination of abuse as part of the self-petition or VAWA cancellation in the last two categories, described above. However, abuse is not part of the adjudication in the first two categories. Therefore, the benefits granting agency must make this determination. Applicants must provide evidence of battery or extreme cruelty to themselves or their children. Benefits providers are to consider any credible evidence of abuse that the applicant provides including, but not limited to, reports or affidavits from police, judges and other court officials, medical personnel, school officials, clergy, social workers, counseling or mental health personnel, and other social service agency personnel, protection orders, evidence that the applicant sought help from a battered women's shelter, photographs of injuries, affidavits from family members or others who have personal knowledge of the battery or extreme cruelty and the applicant's own credible affidavit.

In all of the above categories, benefits granting agencies must determine that there is a substantial connection between the need for benefits and the abuse and that they are no longer residing with the abuser. See "Guidance on Standards and Methods for Determining Whether a Substantial Connection Exists Between Battering or Extreme Cruelty and Need for Specific Public Benefits," 62 Fed. Reg. 65285 (December 11, 1997), and Exhibit B to Attachment 5 of the "Interim Guidance on Verification of Citizenship, Qualified Alien Status and Eligibility Under Title VI of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996," AG Order No. 2129-97, 62 Fed. Reg. 61366 (November 17, 1997).



Thank you so much. I shall be getting in touch with the above person today!!

Shona
eau_xplain
Good luck Shona! Keep us updated how it goes.
dmartmar
QUOTE
I rarely say things like this, but dmartmar, you are such a fukcing aszhole....BITTER AS HELL or what??? wow. I disgrace myself by speaking that way to you, but you know what? This one time, it was worth it. M.


Only those that are truly bitter resort to insults and verbal attacks.
dmartmar
QUOTE
1. You never said "go to hell and join my bills." I told you to go there with my bills, due to your nastiness.
Ok, sorry for my misunderstanding.

QUOTE
2. You have no idea what went on in my marriage and the abuse that both myself and my children endured. My attorney has 7 pages of it. My reasons for applying went way beyond "my husband not attending the AOS interview." If you have any idea of the VAWA, then you would know that this is insufficient.


Your attorney has 7 pages of the abuse you and your children endured, the USCIS recognized it (according to your timeline) and sent you a prima face determination, yet they still haven't adjudicated your waiver, nor are you eligible for benefits.

QUOTE
3. Yes I chose to adjust . That was my choice - for many reasons.
Right! Which is why I wrote that it wasn't your husband who put you in the position you're in now.

QUOTE
4. Do you actually think I like relying on people? Are you an abused immigrant? If not, tell me how I could have bettered myself. I'm intrigued.


I have no idea, but it sure seems that way to me. I am not an abused immigrant, but an abused USC by one.


QUOTE
5. If one has no income, cannot work and has a child; do you really think one has a choice in the matter whether they like it or not? It's called survival. Do tell me what you would have done in this case, since you criticise me so readily. I am not blaming it ALL on the USCIS. Taking 4 months to forward a file is excessive and saying you have some benefits when you actually can't justifies some blame. The person whom I actually blame is my ex for the abuse and the situation he has put me in.
I would've returned back home a long time ago and again you cannot blame your ex for your current situation. It was you who decided to stay, not him.

QUOTE
6. I am NOT teaching or working, but I am qualified to teach and yes, my son is in school.


How can your son be in school when you are not entitled to anything at all as of yet?

QUOTE
Ok, I'm done with you. It's obvious you cannot even start to comprehend what I'm going through. I really don't know what your problem is, but go get it sorted out before you really hurt someone emotionally. You don't want to end up becoming an abuser yourself.


Oh, believe you me, I totally DO and CAN comprehend exactly what it is that you're going through in its entirety, having lived it in the flesh and from both sides of the fence.
Jonesie
((Shona))
MrsBruce5
QUOTE(dmartmar @ Feb 25 2007, 03:32 PM) *
QUOTE
1. You never said "go to hell and join my bills." I told you to go there with my bills, due to your nastiness.
Ok, sorry for my misunderstanding.

QUOTE
2. You have no idea what went on in my marriage and the abuse that both myself and my children endured. My attorney has 7 pages of it. My reasons for applying went way beyond "my husband not attending the AOS interview." If you have any idea of the VAWA, then you would know that this is insufficient.
Your attorney has 7 pages of the abuse you and your children endured, the USCIS recognized it (according to your timeline) and sent you a prima face determination, yet they still haven't adjudicated your waiver, nor are you eligible for benefits.

QUOTE
3. Yes I chose to adjust . That was my choice - for many reasons.
Right! Which is why I wrote that it wasn't your husband who put you in the position you're in now.

QUOTE
4. Do you actually think I like relying on people? Are you an abused immigrant? If not, tell me how I could have bettered myself. I'm intrigued.
I have no idea, but it sure seems that way to me. I am not an abused immigrant, but an abused USC by one.


QUOTE
5. If one has no income, cannot work and has a child; do you really think one has a choice in the matter whether they like it or not? It's called survival. Do tell me what you would have done in this case, since you criticise me so readily. I am not blaming it ALL on the USCIS. Taking 4 months to forward a file is excessive and saying you have some benefits when you actually can't justifies some blame. The person whom I actually blame is my ex for the abuse and the situation he has put me in.
I would've returned back home a long time ago and again you cannot blame your ex for your current situation. It was you who decided to stay, not him.

QUOTE
6. I am NOT teaching or working, but I am qualified to teach and yes, my son is in school.
How can your son be in school when you are not entitled to anything at all as of yet?

QUOTE
Ok, I'm done with you. It's obvious you cannot even start to comprehend what I'm going through. I really don't know what your problem is, but go get it sorted out before you really hurt someone emotionally. You don't want to end up becoming an abuser yourself.


Oh, believe you me, I totally DO and CAN comprehend exactly what it is that you're going through in its entirety, having lived it in the flesh and from both sides of the fence.







whistling.gif

Seems like you've gone off those meds again, haven't ya cupcake?
shona
QUOTE(dmartmar @ Feb 25 2007, 03:32 PM) *
QUOTE
1. You never said "go to hell and join my bills." I told you to go there with my bills, due to your nastiness.
Ok, sorry for my misunderstanding.

QUOTE
2. You have no idea what went on in my marriage and the abuse that both myself and my children endured. My attorney has 7 pages of it. My reasons for applying went way beyond "my husband not attending the AOS interview." If you have any idea of the VAWA, then you would know that this is insufficient.
Your attorney has 7 pages of the abuse you and your children endured, the USCIS recognized it (according to your timeline) and sent you a prima face determination, yet they still haven't adjudicated your waiver, nor are you eligible for benefits.

QUOTE
3. Yes I chose to adjust . That was my choice - for many reasons.
Right! Which is why I wrote that it wasn't your husband who put you in the position you're in now.

QUOTE
4. Do you actually think I like relying on people? Are you an abused immigrant? If not, tell me how I could have bettered myself. I'm intrigued.
I have no idea, but it sure seems that way to me. I am not an abused immigrant, but an abused USC by one.


QUOTE
5. If one has no income, cannot work and has a child; do you really think one has a choice in the matter whether they like it or not? It's called survival. Do tell me what you would have done in this case, since you criticise me so readily. I am not blaming it ALL on the USCIS. Taking 4 months to forward a file is excessive and saying you have some benefits when you actually can't justifies some blame. The person whom I actually blame is my ex for the abuse and the situation he has put me in.
I would've returned back home a long time ago and again you cannot blame your ex for your current situation. It was you who decided to stay, not him.

QUOTE
6. I am NOT teaching or working, but I am qualified to teach and yes, my son is in school.
How can your son be in school when you are not entitled to anything at all as of yet?

QUOTE
Ok, I'm done with you. It's obvious you cannot even start to comprehend what I'm going through. I really don't know what your problem is, but go get it sorted out before you really hurt someone emotionally. You don't want to end up becoming an abuser yourself.


Oh, believe you me, I totally DO and CAN comprehend exactly what it is that you're going through in its entirety, having lived it in the flesh and from both sides of the fence.



What part of "I'm done with you" do you not understand. YOU need to be ignored.
charles!
QUOTE(shona @ Feb 28 2007, 07:20 PM) *
What part of "I'm done with you" do you not understand. YOU need to be ignored.

hang in there shona. and disregard the troll, maybe his depends need to be changed.
MichelleandCraig
QUOTE(dmartmar @ Feb 25 2007, 01:10 PM) *
QUOTE
I rarely say things like this, but dmartmar, you are such a fukcing aszhole....BITTER AS HELL or what??? wow. I disgrace myself by speaking that way to you, but you know what? This one time, it was worth it. M.


Only those that are truly bitter resort to insults and verbal attacks.


yes...I felt a bit of bitterness *toward YOU* in that particular moment..nothing like kicking someone when they're down..and you do it OFTEN. It gets annoying. As often as you DO 'result to insults and verbal attacks' yourself, you must be one bitter person, just as I first guessed. Ah well...I don't have to live with ya! smile.gif M.
Rob and Melinda
Hey Shona praying for you here in Arizona. Don't give up, it won't be much longer and you will be outa there and in a great new life.

Rob and Melinda
Good Russian Girl
QUOTE(dmartmar @ Feb 13 2007, 06:59 PM) *
QUOTE
As for that one obnoxious person dmartmar "go to to hell and join my bills" Is this a case of deja vu where you were mean and nasty to me previously? Do enlighten me as to your problems you have with me. Other than that, if you can't be a decent human being, then don't post and put people down when they already are.

For your information I-360's do take their time, but my petition has taken longer than most.

As for the benefits, I applied in January 2005.

How dare you you to tell me I should have stayed with an abuser. My husband refused to go the AOS interview. Don't you ever read things correctly??????????????. He put me in this situation. DIG IT!!!!!!

I have every intention of working and paying my way. I have two Bachelor hons degrees, which includes one in teaching. I do not want to live on benefits and work on the side as you suggested. I just want to be able to work and pay my way like everyone else.


1st of all, re-read my post. Where does it read "go to hell and join my bills?" I was being sarcastic towards the person who's advice for you was to "send the bills to hell." Now what kind of advice is that?

2nd of all, it seems as if your husband's only abuse was refusing to attend your AOS interview, which in turn gave you no other option but to pursue a VAWA waiver. I guess that refusing to attend the interview can be construed as "power" and "control" and as such, mental abuse.

3rd of all, you had the option of going back to your home country after the marriage broke down, yet chose to adjust status by yourself instead.

4th of all, in the year and a half you've been waiting for your I-360 to be adjudicated, you've done nothing to try and better you and your son's situation, all the while living off other people, getting things for free and blaming it all on the USCIS.

5th of all, you don't want to live off benefits, yet applied for them in Jan. of '05.


Well-Well-Well. You judge only the side your know. Put on somebody's skin....and feel it. I guess you spend all your time beeing mean. Got to work hard to be mean, right?
HannahP
Shona --

You might try circumventing the hospital's billing office and talking to social services, if they have any support like that available. Sometimes the billing office won't listen to you, but they might listen to a social worker.
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