Were Yodrak's comments direct... yes... were they on topic and to the point .. yes...
Was it rude... I don't think so.. it just wasn't preaching to the choir that people have been more and more expecting on here of late...
It certainly didn't rise to the level of rudeness in comparision to the comments and behavior that has been directed towards him and others of late...
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QUOTE(zyggy @ Jan 26 2007, 08:45 AM) 
Were Yodrak's comments direct... yes... were they on topic and to the point .. yes...
Was it rude... I don't think so.. it just wasn't preaching to the choir that people have been more and more expecting on here of late...
It certainly didn't rise to the level of rudeness in comparision to the comments and behavior that has been directed towards him and others of late...
Was it rude... I don't think so.. it just wasn't preaching to the choir that people have been more and more expecting on here of late...
It certainly didn't rise to the level of rudeness in comparision to the comments and behavior that has been directed towards him and others of late...
WA WA! My god, this whole post has changed. I make a comment on a rude post, and it was too many of us, and now we have to hear how wonderful you are. I too am entitled to an oppion! But thanks for all the help you provided others.
Avoci, I am so happy to see your news, good for you and best of luck to you. TOO ALL who are providing us VALUABLE information instead of criticisms and to suck it up and get in line, thank you and look foward to continue support, info and help.
UKRAINE: I have been told that all our VISA petitions are being boxed up in Ukraine and being sent to Moscow. No idea how long the background will take. Then afterwards will be sent back to Ukraine for them to schedule a new interview. So it will be a couple months more processing time if we are lucky, to say the least.
QUOTE(jpaula @ Jan 25 2007, 09:53 PM)
Is anyone else getting info from their consulate indicating that a distinction is being made between those I-130s that were approved before July 27th and the rest? I still think the previously approved ones are going ahead, but would like to hear if others are being told the same.
My embassy did reply to me.. please see post on the next page.
Let me know your thoughts.
A.Voci
QUOTE(zyggy @ Jan 26 2007, 06:45 AM)
Were Yodrak's comments direct... yes... were they on topic and to the point .. yes...
Was it rude... I don't think so.. it just wasn't preaching to the choir that people have been more and more expecting on here of late...
It certainly didn't rise to the level of rudeness in comparision to the comments and behavior that has been directed towards him and others of late...
Was it rude... I don't think so.. it just wasn't preaching to the choir that people have been more and more expecting on here of late...
It certainly didn't rise to the level of rudeness in comparision to the comments and behavior that has been directed towards him and others of late...
If it was his comment to me, well... it was just downright mean to blatently tell someone they were 'stupid'. I didnt attack him or say anything derogatory. I pretty much stayed neutral and made a comment that I think we all agree on: this affects us all and it sucks.
If its okay to make comments like
"You have a right to be feeling as stupid as you were acting."
then momma was wrong in telling us "If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all" Again, thanks for the good cry Yodrak.
Nevermind.
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QUOTE(zyggy @ Jan 26 2007, 12:45 PM)
Were Yodrak's comments direct... yes... were they on topic and to the point .. yes...
Was it rude... I don't think so.. it just wasn't preaching to the choir that people have been more and more expecting on here of late...
It certainly didn't rise to the level of rudeness in comparision to the comments and behavior that has been directed towards him and others of late...
Was it rude... I don't think so.. it just wasn't preaching to the choir that people have been more and more expecting on here of late...
It certainly didn't rise to the level of rudeness in comparision to the comments and behavior that has been directed towards him and others of late...
Well, from where I come from there is a big difference between being "direct" and "rude". Yodrak, deliberately put the poster down by stating his particular opinion which was based only in the facts that the poster stated, his last sentence, at least to me, seemed very rude. Although I do agree with Yodrak that her move was risky, and I wouldn't have done it the same way, this new regulation caught the consulates and embassies and us completely off-guard, so whatever the poster did before was her own business and I don't think anyone has the right to judge her.
We'll agree to disagree Ziggy.
If someone is into helping others expecting to receive something then he might get disappointed in the process, I am sure that many here value and appreciate the effort and knowledge that others have spread (I know I do) but that by no means give anyone the right to be rude or egotistical.
Of course people appreciate the efforts poured into this community, and certainly people will miss someone who can help. There are others who won't show appreciation, despite that I think that if anyone likes this community and wants to spread their knowledge he will do so and keep up the good work !
Andre
PS - Yodrak, I read many of your posts and I agree with many things that you say (such as using correct terminology) and I do value your insights and experience. However, your comment was uncalled for.
QUOTE(atp @ Jan 26 2007, 07:25 AM)
QUOTE(David A. @ Jan 25 2007, 11:43 PM)
QUOTE(meauxna @ Jan 25 2007, 07:28 PM)
QUOTE(atp @ Jan 25 2007, 05:20 PM)
As it has happened before in the US, the lawmaker/legislator did not think through the whole ramifications, or maybe he DID but deemed that the Law and its benefits were worth the price. We USCs end up having to bite the bullet and deal with another layer of red tape into what is a slow and disrespectful process.
It shouldn't be this difficult to be able to marry a foreigner and be united with her in your home country.
It shouldn't be this difficult to be able to marry a foreigner and be united with her in your home country.
Be realistic now, how could legislators anticipate this fairly minimal ramification that affects a VERY small minority of USCs?
We are not entitled to this method of filing. No one here is being penalized. Everyone here still has the same option that everyone else on VJ has, namely to get in the same US petitioning line as everyone else. No one here is being put through extraordinary difficulty. I understand that it is confusing, and changes plans, but won't it help to maintain some perspective?
Bear in mind that your VJ comrades are waiting in the line that you think is unacceptable.
PS: not disagreeing with you about how it 'should' be.
I agree with Mo. In my own selfish ways I wished things worked out for me because DCF was the quickest route and I was only 4-5 days away from the visa. The advantage has been taken away, but not the fact that you can STILL petition for your spouse or relative. It's not totally over for us.
Meauxna, first let me tell you that I respect very much what you do here in the VJ forums as well as the others who devote their time to help strangers in the difficult processes involving immigration/visas. I read many of your posts and they helped, including your DCF guide.
However, I do not agree with you when you say that we were not entitled to file the I-130 through a consulate in the first place, that they did it as a "favor". If the service is available and permitted by the Dept. of State and USCIS, it is a sanctioned process and an option to the USC that meet its requirements.I agree with you when you say that the present situation is confusing and that it changes plans, and it certainly helps to not only maintain perspective but also to be pragmatic about the whole situation, which is what I am doing. Now I will decide between the other routes available and there is nothing that I can do now about it, wether I like them or not. However I never said that these other venues are unacceptable, what I did say is that they are a disrespectful process that in my humble opinion shouldn't take so long in keeping families apart. The processes are way better than some years ago, but are far and away from being good.
This whole situation is a setback in the plans of all the people in the middle of this and they are right to be upset. Of course a USC still has other options, but to those who met the requirements filing the I-130 through a consulate was the process that kept a family apart for the least amount of time. Now I'll join the ranks of my many fellow USCs who are going through K1/K3/CR1/IR1... No problem in that ! But there was no basis for your comparison between who was doing DCF and who wasn't. Anyone who could do a better, faster option would do so.David A., this is not about being selfish, the people who opted for the DCF and hadn't filed their petitions yet, now are unable to do so, and the ones who did file their I-130's are now waiting for an answer and having to deal with the frustration and anxiety of being in the middle of the process such as you are. There is nothing selfish in this, people had an option available that isn't more and this is affecting them. There is no selfishness in this.
Also, Legislators should take into the consideration the ramifications and impact that their laws will have. Period. Independently of the number of USCs abroad, they were impacted by this law, USCs abroad should've been taken into consideration. Again, maybe the lawmaker did think about all ramifications but decided that the law was worth it, we'll never know. I got the short end of the stick in regard to laws that were rushed before and let me tell you that it sucks big time.
Like John said, good Law, bad implementation.
Meauxna, keep up your good work helping people out.
PS - Unbelievably rude comment, Yodrak, shame on you.
Unbelievably rude? Calling somebody foolish?
I had contrary to all the advise given booked a ticket in anticipation of an interview date, delayed, so I had to re-book it.
I took a chance, cost me the re-booking fee, would do the same again.
It is foolish to do so if you are not prepared to live with the consequences, not rude, just the truth.
I think you have to have a thickish skin to post on these boards, I do make mistakes, if people do not like what is said which is correct then that's their problem, not mine or anybody elses.
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 26 2007, 09:57 AM)
QUOTE(zyggy @ Jan 26 2007, 08:45 AM)
Were Yodrak's comments direct... yes... were they on topic and to the point .. yes...
Was it rude... I don't think so.. it just wasn't preaching to the choir that people have been more and more expecting on here of late...
It certainly didn't rise to the level of rudeness in comparision to the comments and behavior that has been directed towards him and others of late...
Was it rude... I don't think so.. it just wasn't preaching to the choir that people have been more and more expecting on here of late...
It certainly didn't rise to the level of rudeness in comparision to the comments and behavior that has been directed towards him and others of late...
WA WA! My god, this whole post has changed. I make a comment on a rude post, and it was too many of us, and now we have to hear how wonderful you are. I too am entitled to an oppion! But thanks for all the help you provided others.
Avoci, I am so happy to see your news, good for you and best of luck to you. TOO ALL who are providing us VALUABLE information instead of criticisms and to suck it up and get in line, thank you and look foward to continue support, info and help.
UKRAINE: I have been told that all our VISA petitions are being boxed up in Ukraine and being sent to Moscow. No idea how long the background will take. Then afterwards will be sent back to Ukraine for them to schedule a new interview. So it will be a couple months more processing time if we are lucky, to say the least.
I don't know if I should be happy yet. Vienna is still telling me that this info from Albania is wrong! I am so confused!
QUOTE(avoci @ Jan 26 2007, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE(jpaula @ Jan 25 2007, 09:53 PM)
Is anyone else getting info from their consulate indicating that a distinction is being made between those I-130s that were approved before July 27th and the rest? I still think the previously approved ones are going ahead, but would like to hear if others are being told the same.
My embassy did reply to me.. please see post on the next page.
Let me know your thoughts.
A.Voci
Algiers is telling me the same thing. My husband will go talk to the consulate in person tomorrow and I will let you know what they say.
QUOTE
Unbelievably rude? Calling somebody foolish?
I had contrary to all the advise given booked a ticket in anticipation of an interview date, delayed, so I had to re-book it.
I took a chance, cost me the re-booking fee, would do the same again.
It is foolish to do so if you are not prepared to live with the consequences, not rude, just the truth.
I think you have to have a thickish skin to post on these boards, I do make mistakes, if people do not like what is said which is correct then that's their problem, not mine or anybody elses.
I had contrary to all the advise given booked a ticket in anticipation of an interview date, delayed, so I had to re-book it.
I took a chance, cost me the re-booking fee, would do the same again.
It is foolish to do so if you are not prepared to live with the consequences, not rude, just the truth.
I think you have to have a thickish skin to post on these boards, I do make mistakes, if people do not like what is said which is correct then that's their problem, not mine or anybody elses.
While I didnt post all our mitigating circumstances as to why we took this chance, I will conceed to say that we did shoot ourselves in the foot. However, with a lease that was winding down and a flat mate who was going to leave my beloved in the lurch anyway and working for a company that is sinking fast with all the rats jumping board, this was our route to take. He was going back home to Oz anyway and for all intents and purposes, DCF (from what we read on this forum) seemed a very feasable way to go. Could he have stayed in London another year? Maybe, but he would be still looking for another place to live and possibly another work transfer. THESE reasons are why he and I chose to do this option. Not a spur of the moment decision. This was carfully considered, researched and told (by not only those here but immigration lawyers and Nolo books) that this was a viable option, especially for us as my husband is Australian and planning on moving back anyway.
I dont feel foolish or stupid, I just feel very dissappointed in the system. I feel more foolish and stupid for posting my feelings and dissappointment here. Thick skin developing...
Elle.
Did these immigration attorneys and NOLO books tell you that DCF is not something that a Embassy/Consulate is reuquired to do but simply being done as a courtesy? If not shame on them because in an era of immigration reform and budget tightening guess what is the easiest thing to stop doing?
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jan 26 2007, 08:32 AM)
Did these immigration attorneys and NOLO books tell you that DCF is not something that a Embassy/Consulate is reuquired to do but simply being done as a courtesy? If not shame on them because in an era of immigration reform and budget tightening guess what is the easiest thing to stop doing?
Yup NoLo did, the attys did not. So yes, Mea Culpa. But! we didnt EXPECT this favour, we merely kept it in hope. All is not lost though, we can still proceed somehow.
I think my biggest beef is that someway notification and warning could have been put into place.
So its onto our original plan... K3. Best to all who are truely in limbo.
QUOTE(jpaula @ Jan 26 2007, 11:05 AM)
QUOTE(avoci @ Jan 26 2007, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE(jpaula @ Jan 25 2007, 09:53 PM)
Is anyone else getting info from their consulate indicating that a distinction is being made between those I-130s that were approved before July 27th and the rest? I still think the previously approved ones are going ahead, but would like to hear if others are being told the same.
My embassy did reply to me.. please see post on the next page.
Let me know your thoughts.
A.Voci
Algiers is telling me the same thing. My husband will go talk to the consulate in person tomorrow and I will let you know what they say.
They let your husband into the US embassy? I wish my husband could go talk to a conular officer! Did you get an email telling you this? If so, can I see a copy?
Thanks!
Amy
QUOTE(avoci @ Jan 26 2007, 06:23 PM)
QUOTE(jpaula @ Jan 26 2007, 11:05 AM)
QUOTE(avoci @ Jan 26 2007, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE(jpaula @ Jan 25 2007, 09:53 PM)
Is anyone else getting info from their consulate indicating that a distinction is being made between those I-130s that were approved before July 27th and the rest? I still think the previously approved ones are going ahead, but would like to hear if others are being told the same.
My embassy did reply to me.. please see post on the next page.
Let me know your thoughts.
A.Voci
Algiers is telling me the same thing. My husband will go talk to the consulate in person tomorrow and I will let you know what they say.
They let your husband into the US embassy? I wish my husband could go talk to a conular officer! Did you get an email telling you this? If so, can I see a copy?
Thanks!
Amy
No e-mail. They called him and told him to come in Saturday at 2. He had been in for his final visa interview on the 23rd just moments after they had received the infamous memo. They did not know what they were supposed to do and so told him they would call him in the next few days. Hence the call. We have been dealing with Algiers for 1.5 years as we have a comlicated case. They know us well by now and are genuinely trying to help. Despite all the confusion, I have to say the consulate is really doing their best to sort it all out.
The Portfolios,
You should not be affected by this. Your I-130 petition was approved by USCIS, not a consulate.
Yodrak
You should not be affected by this. Your I-130 petition was approved by USCIS, not a consulate.
Yodrak
QUOTE(The Portfolios @ Jan 26 2007, 05:43 AM)
Wow, the posts are piling up here, it's impossible to read them all. I'm catching some info about July 27th 2006 being the magic cutoff date, and so I want to ask:
Our I-130 was filed in Shanghai May 9, 2006, approved in Beijing July 11, 2006. We just had the interview in Guangzhou last week, where we were temporarily denied due to my not having "domicile" in the States. They asked us to come back with evidence of a job/house in America, and said once they saw that they would grant the visa to my wife.
Does it sound like we should still be on track then? I'm going to call anyway of course, but I appreciate the support here.
To everyone who got royally screwed by this, I'm really so sorry, I hope it works out in the end for all of you. Be strong and remember that love conquers bureaucracy every time.
Our I-130 was filed in Shanghai May 9, 2006, approved in Beijing July 11, 2006. We just had the interview in Guangzhou last week, where we were temporarily denied due to my not having "domicile" in the States. They asked us to come back with evidence of a job/house in America, and said once they saw that they would grant the visa to my wife.
Does it sound like we should still be on track then? I'm going to call anyway of course, but I appreciate the support here.
To everyone who got royally screwed by this, I'm really so sorry, I hope it works out in the end for all of you. Be strong and remember that love conquers bureaucracy every time.
All,
The 2nd paragraph of my post was more than rude and was uncalled for. I regret having made the comment, my apologies to all and especially to blaaTgirl.
Yodrak
The 2nd paragraph of my post was more than rude and was uncalled for. I regret having made the comment, my apologies to all and especially to blaaTgirl.
Yodrak
QUOTE(Yodrak @ Jan 25 2007, 09:50 PM)
I think you were foolish to say the very least. No one should make plans having such severe ramifications in advance of having a visa in hand, no matter which visa, no matter what variant of the process used to apply for it.
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Yodrak
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Yodrak
QUOTE(zyggy @ Jan 26 2007, 02:12 PM)
QUOTE(aussiewench @ Jan 26 2007, 01:25 AM)
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 25 2007, 09:51 PM)
We will rename the VisaJourney website, the meauxna website. And we will allow you to judge what we should discuss or not discuss. Read the numbers on this post. So your last post gets no credit points for many as any type of contribution. And great that you can spend 2 years on this site helping others, must have alot of free time. But thanks for your contributions that were constructive.
Condescension never wins brownie points John. If not for those that do have knowledge and an understanding that do stick around to HELP others, then many may very well be in stiff.
Someone has got to have a clear head when things like this happen. Yes this totally sucks for you and all those that have had interviews cancelled etc and now have to wait longer, but saying about someone like Marxian is beyond comprehension in my book. Lets hope VJ doesn't lose another GURU as they did mdyoung for the same type of condescending, rude attitude.
I wish all dealing with this situation the very best. Hang in there.
Lorelle
The thing is Lorelle... and I think I can speak for some of the others is that those of us who have contributed for a long period of time disseminating our knowledge of this process, is that we are getting tired of getting beat up every single time we don't pander to someone else's self-serving attitude with the rest of the people piling it on...
I and others continued to post because we care about this community, because we know how imposing it can be and how confusing it can be... but frankly, if the community doesn't appreciate us and the viewpoint and perspective we have, even if it may be a differing viewpoint and perspective that yours, it isn't really rewarding to keep doing it anymore...
More and more, I keep seeing people like Yodrak, meauxna, and myself pilloried by countless numbers of people when we do not parrot to the mob by letting someone know what is really going on and giving a more realistic view for what may be going on... I am getting sick of it...
Did we really lose mdyoung ? can we get him back ?
At my darkest hour in this process 18 months ago he flipped open his regulations and saved me from social security number despair - within a week i got my ss number then car /drivers license/insurance and bank account - all because of him !
send out search parties - I have all my stuff now but what about those who follow on ? who is going to fish them out of the mire ?
He did more for me than my government has ever done in 59 years... FIND HIM !!!
alan
Yodrak,
All are human.
Few have the courage to admit it.
Becca
All are human.
Few have the courage to admit it.
Becca
QUOTE(Yodrak @ Jan 26 2007, 12:44 PM)
All,
The 2nd paragraph of my post was more than rude and was uncalled for. I regret having made the comment, my apologies to all and especially to blaaTgirl.
Yodrak
The 2nd paragraph of my post was more than rude and was uncalled for. I regret having made the comment, my apologies to all and especially to blaaTgirl.
Yodrak
QUOTE(Yodrak @ Jan 25 2007, 09:50 PM)
I think you were foolish to say the very least. No one should make plans having such severe ramifications in advance of having a visa in hand, no matter which visa, no matter what variant of the process used to apply for it.
< inappropriate comment deleted >
Yodrak
< inappropriate comment deleted >
Yodrak
QUOTE(saywhat @ Jan 26 2007, 11:07 AM)
QUOTE(zyggy @ Jan 26 2007, 02:12 PM)
QUOTE(aussiewench @ Jan 26 2007, 01:25 AM)
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 25 2007, 09:51 PM)
We will rename the VisaJourney website, the meauxna website. And we will allow you to judge what we should discuss or not discuss. Read the numbers on this post. So your last post gets no credit points for many as any type of contribution. And great that you can spend 2 years on this site helping others, must have alot of free time. But thanks for your contributions that were constructive.
Condescension never wins brownie points John. If not for those that do have knowledge and an understanding that do stick around to HELP others, then many may very well be in stiff.
Someone has got to have a clear head when things like this happen. Yes this totally sucks for you and all those that have had interviews cancelled etc and now have to wait longer, but saying about someone like Marxian is beyond comprehension in my book. Lets hope VJ doesn't lose another GURU as they did mdyoung for the same type of condescending, rude attitude.
I wish all dealing with this situation the very best. Hang in there.
Lorelle
I do not know the circumstances, I did have one disagreement with him on one interpretation, but it was coin toss as to what was right. And it did not matter what we thought anyway.
He post now and then on britishexpats.
The thing is Lorelle... and I think I can speak for some of the others is that those of us who have contributed for a long period of time disseminating our knowledge of this process, is that we are getting tired of getting beat up every single time we don't pander to someone else's self-serving attitude with the rest of the people piling it on...
I and others continued to post because we care about this community, because we know how imposing it can be and how confusing it can be... but frankly, if the community doesn't appreciate us and the viewpoint and perspective we have, even if it may be a differing viewpoint and perspective that yours, it isn't really rewarding to keep doing it anymore...
More and more, I keep seeing people like Yodrak, meauxna, and myself pilloried by countless numbers of people when we do not parrot to the mob by letting someone know what is really going on and giving a more realistic view for what may be going on... I am getting sick of it...
Did we really lose mdyoung ? can we get him back ?
At my darkest hour in this process 18 months ago he flipped open his regulations and saved me from social security number despair - within a week i got my ss number then car /drivers license/insurance and bank account - all because of him !
send out search parties - I have all my stuff now but what about those who follow on ? who is going to fish them out of the mire ?
He did more for me than my government has ever done in 59 years... FIND HIM !!!
alan
My two cents.
Having filed DCF it IS a "favor" that they do for us...especially when the USC doesn't live abroad...as was my situation filing in Australia.
I compare it to this:
At the supermarket- they have an express check out lane...for people with ten items or less. They don't HAVE to - but they do it...as a courtesy...as a favor...to help you out. If they took that lane away - would you feel you lost something to which you were ENTITLED??
Does this whole thing suck? Yes! was it mishandled? Probably. But now, all the DCF'ers have to wait like the other 1000's going through the process.
Having filed DCF it IS a "favor" that they do for us...especially when the USC doesn't live abroad...as was my situation filing in Australia.
I compare it to this:
At the supermarket- they have an express check out lane...for people with ten items or less. They don't HAVE to - but they do it...as a courtesy...as a favor...to help you out. If they took that lane away - would you feel you lost something to which you were ENTITLED??
Does this whole thing suck? Yes! was it mishandled? Probably. But now, all the DCF'ers have to wait like the other 1000's going through the process.
Watch this space ! we win some and we lose some--
I reckon they will bring out electronic filing of lots of forms in the process and take credit cards too online instead of sending out bills and receiving cheques etc
also they will bring out fast premium processing for all applications so we can bung them a thousand dollars and get it through so fast we don't have time to pack ! This is America and you can have anything as long as you can pay
You scoff now but it's a fast changing situation and the next moves may well be in our favour
In 5 years from now they will get it much, much slicker - I will be a USC and vote Hillary out if it doesn't happen
No I am not spelling anything American style until they gimme the green card ok
by the way - only one thing really riles me about VJ and that is the majority of people spell 'receive' wrongly as 'recieve'
It's 'I' before 'E' except after 'C' ok ! and I have always been a pedant - even when I was younger than you are now haha !
alan
I reckon they will bring out electronic filing of lots of forms in the process and take credit cards too online instead of sending out bills and receiving cheques etc
also they will bring out fast premium processing for all applications so we can bung them a thousand dollars and get it through so fast we don't have time to pack ! This is America and you can have anything as long as you can pay
You scoff now but it's a fast changing situation and the next moves may well be in our favour
In 5 years from now they will get it much, much slicker - I will be a USC and vote Hillary out if it doesn't happen
No I am not spelling anything American style until they gimme the green card ok
by the way - only one thing really riles me about VJ and that is the majority of people spell 'receive' wrongly as 'recieve'
It's 'I' before 'E' except after 'C' ok ! and I have always been a pedant - even when I was younger than you are now haha !
alan
QUOTE(CarolineM @ Jan 26 2007, 11:17 AM)
My two cents.
Having filed DCF it IS a "favor" that they do for us...especially when the USC doesn't live abroad...as was my situation filing in Australia.
I compare it to this:
At the supermarket- they have an express check out lane...for people with ten items or less. They don't HAVE to - but they do it...as a courtesy...as a favor...to help you out. If they took that lane away - would you feel you lost something to which you were ENTITLED??
Does this whole thing suck? Yes! was it mishandled? Probably. But now, all the DCF'ers have to wait like the other 1000's going through the process.
Having filed DCF it IS a "favor" that they do for us...especially when the USC doesn't live abroad...as was my situation filing in Australia.
I compare it to this:
At the supermarket- they have an express check out lane...for people with ten items or less. They don't HAVE to - but they do it...as a courtesy...as a favor...to help you out. If they took that lane away - would you feel you lost something to which you were ENTITLED??
Does this whole thing suck? Yes! was it mishandled? Probably. But now, all the DCF'ers have to wait like the other 1000's going through the process.
Favour.
According to Bush English is the language of the US so that is what I am going to use, GC irrelevant. As is its colour.
QUOTE(CarolineM @ Jan 26 2007, 01:17 PM)
My two cents.
Having filed DCF it IS a "favor" that they do for us...especially when the USC doesn't live abroad...as was my situation filing in Australia.
I compare it to this:
At the supermarket- they have an express check out lane...for people with ten items or less. They don't HAVE to - but they do it...as a courtesy...as a favor...to help you out. If they took that lane away - would you feel you lost something to which you were ENTITLED??
Does this whole thing suck? Yes! was it mishandled? Probably. But now, all the DCF'ers have to wait like the other 1000's going through the process.
Having filed DCF it IS a "favor" that they do for us...especially when the USC doesn't live abroad...as was my situation filing in Australia.
I compare it to this:
At the supermarket- they have an express check out lane...for people with ten items or less. They don't HAVE to - but they do it...as a courtesy...as a favor...to help you out. If they took that lane away - would you feel you lost something to which you were ENTITLED??
Does this whole thing suck? Yes! was it mishandled? Probably. But now, all the DCF'ers have to wait like the other 1000's going through the process.
I was definitely frustrated with the whole situation but all is not lost. You definitely made an excellent point about it being more like a "favor". The fact that the Sydney Consulate was allowing non-Australian resident USCs to petition their spouse in person was a wonderful option. However, as frustrated as I got after the sudden change, I always kept the warning the Consulate gave with respect to filing a DCF in the back of my mind:
Warning: Don’t buy your ticket yet!
�� There may be delays in processing a visa, and unexpected ineligibilities that become apparent only at the time of interview at the U.S. Consulate in 5
Sydney. For this reason, DO NOT make definite travel arrangements, purchase non-refundable tickets, sell your home, or quit your job until after the consular officer approves and issues an immigrant visa to you.
I do feel for the folks that had to make aggressive moves and were burned financially and emotionally.
Fortunately, I can still go with Plan B and hopefully avoid further delays. The only frustrating part is that should my wife want to visit me (under the VWP) while we start the process, I am scared that she might be turned away even though she will only stay within the limit.
George ? - the French don't have a word for 'entrepreneur'
I cant wait to be part of the honing of a new language...No, American spellings are fine and I prefer simplicity - can't wait for 'thoroughbred' to be thurerbred' - but
'recieve' and 'carrot's' does my nut in - I know I need to get out more - doing that right now !
sorry to disturb the flow of the topic..
alan
I cant wait to be part of the honing of a new language...No, American spellings are fine and I prefer simplicity - can't wait for 'thoroughbred' to be thurerbred' - but
'recieve' and 'carrot's' does my nut in - I know I need to get out more - doing that right now !
sorry to disturb the flow of the topic..
alan
Has anyone seen the infamous memo that consulates reveived (NOTE the "e" "i" arrangement) on Jan 23rd or are we assuming it is the same Rice memo that was posted on AILA on the 25th?
I am trying to determine what info the consulate had when it informed me of the status of our case on Jan 24, telling us we can go ahead and they can process the visa.
I am trying to determine what info the consulate had when it informed me of the status of our case on Jan 24, telling us we can go ahead and they can process the visa.
QUOTE(saywhat @ Jan 26 2007, 12:24 PM)
George ? - the French don't have a word for 'entrepreneur'
I cant wait to be part of the honing of a new language...No, American spellings are fine and I prefer simplicity - can't wait for 'thoroughbred' to be thurerbred' - but
'recieve' and 'carrot's' does my nut in - I know I need to get out more - doing that right now !
sorry to disturb the flow of the topic..
alan
I cant wait to be part of the honing of a new language...No, American spellings are fine and I prefer simplicity - can't wait for 'thoroughbred' to be thurerbred' - but
'recieve' and 'carrot's' does my nut in - I know I need to get out more - doing that right now !
sorry to disturb the flow of the topic..
alan
Actually usually the US version is not in itelf more correct, most of the oddities I have come across can in the US be spely both ways, the odd one is just more common.
The ones that do your head in are where they use a completely different term, took me 3 years to find out that full stop was period in American. I was assisting with 1st Grade homework when it finally dawned.
Must be a few more where we have been talking cross purpose. At least Mo on GUTS speaks English.
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QUOTE(Boiler @ Jan 26 2007, 02:47 PM)
Actually usually the US version is not in itelf more correct, most of the oddities I have come across can in the US be spely both ways, the odd one is just more common.
The ones that do your head in are where they use a completely different term, took me 3 years to find out that full stop was period in American. I was assisting with 1st Grade homework when it finally dawned.
Must be a few more where we have been talking cross purpose. At least Mo on GUTS speaks English.
The ones that do your head in are where they use a completely different term, took me 3 years to find out that full stop was period in American. I was assisting with 1st Grade homework when it finally dawned.
Must be a few more where we have been talking cross purpose. At least Mo on GUTS speaks English.
Ok this is a little off the DCF topic. But since the IMBRA mess I worry about all this crap. Are we to assume that after 7/27/06 that USCIS complied with the new law? So petitions adjudicated after that date at USCIS will not be affected in any way? As in DOS saying "sorry we are sending your petion back to USCIS to be readjudicated since they never did the IBIS check".
QUOTE(avoci @ Jan 26 2007, 12:23 PM)
QUOTE(jpaula @ Jan 26 2007, 11:05 AM)
QUOTE(avoci @ Jan 26 2007, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE(jpaula @ Jan 25 2007, 09:53 PM)
Is anyone else getting info from their consulate indicating that a distinction is being made between those I-130s that were approved before July 27th and the rest? I still think the previously approved ones are going ahead, but would like to hear if others are being told the same.
My embassy did reply to me.. please see post on the next page.
Let me know your thoughts.
A.Voci
Algiers is telling me the same thing. My husband will go talk to the consulate in person tomorrow and I will let you know what they say.
They let your husband into the US embassy? I wish my husband could go talk to a conular officer! Did you get an email telling you this? If so, can I see a copy?
Thanks!
Amy
And yet another response different from what Albania is telling me!
Dear Amy,
You do not need to re-file but as mentioned, your case DOES need to be sent
to
Vienna. The consulate in Tirana has been instructed to send ALL pending
cases
(regardless of when the I-130 was approved!) to Vienna. There is no cut off
date
or grace period as I mentioned in my last email. Our Officer in Charge just
sent
an email to clarify this matter with the Consul General in Tirana after I
told
her you have again received other information from Tirana. I am sorry you
have
received conflicting information and that your case will end up held up
because
of the additional step, but this is certainly how the law is being applied
to
I-130 petitions.
Kind regards,
Meredith Petrnousek, Immigration Assistant
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Citizenship & Immigration Services
Parkring 12A
A-1010 Vienna
Austria
Tel.: 431 31339-ext. 7580
The way I read the law, the petitioner could have been convicted of assault of either an adult or child, murder, and rape of an adult.... and the petition would not be deniable under the new law and the sponsored spouse and their children would be unaware of the petitioner's crimes.
This law offers only a tiny amount of protection while putting an increased burden on the already strained immigration system. And typically, it was implemented in a horrific manner.
I do not wish to scare anyone, but since the law came into effect in July, unless you had all your processing done by that date, you may be subject to having your case re-opened. If you DCFd after July and have already received your IR/CR visa -- you might have to have the IBIS check done. This includes those who have already landed in America. If your spouse is found to have committed a sexual offense against a minor, the visa might be rescinded on the grounds that DOS/USCIS did not do an adequate background check.
I feel terribly for those of you caught up in this.
This law offers only a tiny amount of protection while putting an increased burden on the already strained immigration system. And typically, it was implemented in a horrific manner.
I do not wish to scare anyone, but since the law came into effect in July, unless you had all your processing done by that date, you may be subject to having your case re-opened. If you DCFd after July and have already received your IR/CR visa -- you might have to have the IBIS check done. This includes those who have already landed in America. If your spouse is found to have committed a sexual offense against a minor, the visa might be rescinded on the grounds that DOS/USCIS did not do an adequate background check.
I feel terribly for those of you caught up in this.
QUOTE(Yodrak @ Jan 26 2007, 09:44 AM)
All,
The 2nd paragraph of my post was more than rude and was uncalled for. I regret having made the comment, my apologies to all and especially to blaaTgirl.
Yodrak
The 2nd paragraph of my post was more than rude and was uncalled for. I regret having made the comment, my apologies to all and especially to blaaTgirl.
Yodrak
QUOTE(Yodrak @ Jan 25 2007, 09:50 PM)
I think you were foolish to say the very least. No one should make plans having such severe ramifications in advance of having a visa in hand, no matter which visa, no matter what variant of the process used to apply for it.
< inappropriate comment deleted >
Yodrak
< inappropriate comment deleted >
Yodrak
Apology accepted.
Moving onwards and upwards...
QUOTE(Yodrak @ Jan 26 2007, 02:16 PM)
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QUOTE(Boiler @ Jan 26 2007, 02:47 PM)
Actually usually the US version is not in itelf more correct, most of the oddities I have come across can in the US be spely both ways, the odd one is just more common.
The ones that do your head in are where they use a completely different term, took me 3 years to find out that full stop was period in American. I was assisting with 1st Grade homework when it finally dawned.
Must be a few more where we have been talking cross purpose. At least Mo on GUTS speaks English.
The ones that do your head in are where they use a completely different term, took me 3 years to find out that full stop was period in American. I was assisting with 1st Grade homework when it finally dawned.
Must be a few more where we have been talking cross purpose. At least Mo on GUTS speaks English.
Well there is no such language as British.
And Britain as far as languages includes at least, English, Welsh, Cornish and Gaelic. Aologies to those not mentioned.
My Grandmother learnt English when she went to school, she was born in Wales. At that time it was forbidden to speak Welsh at school. Now it is a common second language.
http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/fun/welsh/Welsh.html
Well I sure hope during the past couple days, everyone has had their fill of opinions, gripes, vents, arguments, complaints, name-calling, etc... I think we all should just calm down and wait for the updates to come out which should be within the next week or two *crossing fingers*.
There has been plenty of information on this thread alone to give any new person an idea of wtf just happened.
My wife still kept her final appointment with Sydney for this coming Tuesday since they gave her that option. They said that my I-130 is the only thing pending (it was supposedly approved/accepted back in November). They couldn't give us any info at the time that they called, which was when all this occured. I'm hoping that they will have more knowledge of what will happen to all the I-130s(filed by DCF) in Sydney when my wife attends her interview.
So any new NEWS from the rest of the world, please post immediately.
Anything other than news, maybe we should just start another thread of useful information?
There has been plenty of information on this thread alone to give any new person an idea of wtf just happened.
My wife still kept her final appointment with Sydney for this coming Tuesday since they gave her that option. They said that my I-130 is the only thing pending (it was supposedly approved/accepted back in November). They couldn't give us any info at the time that they called, which was when all this occured. I'm hoping that they will have more knowledge of what will happen to all the I-130s(filed by DCF) in Sydney when my wife attends her interview.
So any new NEWS from the rest of the world, please post immediately.
Anything other than news, maybe we should just start another thread of useful information?
I have added the following notice to all DCF related Guides on the board:
Attention: On 1/23/07 a new law was passed that limits the ability of US Consulates to process I-130 petitions (or otherwise DCF cases). Please see this article for more information.
...
I have added some references in the above article that may or may not be new information as I have not read this entire thread.
Attention: On 1/23/07 a new law was passed that limits the ability of US Consulates to process I-130 petitions (or otherwise DCF cases). Please see this article for more information.
...
I have added some references in the above article that may or may not be new information as I have not read this entire thread.
Hi
Every time I come to this site I get confused, and worried. Because I simply do not understand certain things- and I get all muddled up.
My husband is in the UK. I am here in the USA. He has his visa interview in Londond next month. Are we OK? What is happening here, I truly do not understand. Im worried sick.
Angie
Every time I come to this site I get confused, and worried. Because I simply do not understand certain things- and I get all muddled up.
My husband is in the UK. I am here in the USA. He has his visa interview in Londond next month. Are we OK? What is happening here, I truly do not understand. Im worried sick.
Angie
QUOTE(Aphidfreak @ Jan 26 2007, 08:28 PM)
Hi
Every time I come to this site I get confused, and worried. Because I simply do not understand certain things- and I get all muddled up.
My husband is in the UK. I am here in the USA. He has his visa interview in Londond next month. Are we OK? What is happening here, I truly do not understand. Im worried sick.
Angie
Every time I come to this site I get confused, and worried. Because I simply do not understand certain things- and I get all muddled up.
My husband is in the UK. I am here in the USA. He has his visa interview in Londond next month. Are we OK? What is happening here, I truly do not understand. Im worried sick.
Angie
Since London has a USCIS sub-office in the Embassy, you maybe OK... I a sure more news will follow.
Im so confused...
My husband-to-be is half way over the pacific right now. Were getting married in a week and had an interview appointment in Auckland for the 7th of February.
My appointment has been cancelled.
A week before we get married and leave to live together? They cant do this to people....
Does anyone have any suggestions for what I should do now?
Im totally blown away.
Help.
My husband-to-be is half way over the pacific right now. Were getting married in a week and had an interview appointment in Auckland for the 7th of February.
My appointment has been cancelled.
A week before we get married and leave to live together? They cant do this to people....
Does anyone have any suggestions for what I should do now?
Im totally blown away.
Help.
What happened with your original K1? I went back and read some of your posts. Was it cancelled, still pending or approved?
we cancelled it, as we made plans to marry here and use the DCF option...
I guess your only options now since you did not interview and file a I-130 would be to go back to square 1 and file a K1 or get married and file for K3 or CR-1 but at the service centres in the U.S. since your husband (from what I can tell) doesn't live abroad.
My husband-to-be is the American citizen. I am the New Zealander.
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
QUOTE(Hannah07 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:18 PM)
My husband-to-be is the American citizen. I am the New Zealander.
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
Well you have nothing currently in process, right? Or should I ask when did you canceled the K-1?
I just cannot take this any more. I am so confused. I feel like I am breaking. I just want my husband here with me.
Angie
Angie
we had an appointment for an interview to file the I-130, etc in Auckland. all of that was what was in process. if you mean to say thats now -not- in process, then we have nothing.
the other one was cancelled months ago.
the other one was cancelled months ago.
QUOTE(Hannah07 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:25 PM)
we had an appointment for an interview to file the I-130, etc in Auckland. all of that was what was in process. if you mean to say thats now -not- in process, then we have nothing.
the other one was cancelled months ago.
the other one was cancelled months ago.
Sounds like you are back to square one.....
QUOTE(Hannah07 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:18 PM)
My husband-to-be is the American citizen. I am the New Zealander.
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
If the I-130 was never filed, the ONLY thing your husband can do is file the I-130 at the USCIS that has jurisdiction over his home state in the USA. If the I-130 was already filed in Auckland, then the only thing you can do is wait to see what they will do to it and who they will forward it to for final approval.
But like I said, if he has never filed for the I-130, then he must now file it in America.
I'm sorry.
Just to back up a moment...
The Rice memo posted here that was on the AILA website dated 1/25/2007 is posted on the DoS site and dated Jan 7. So, it may not be new info to the consulates. Not sure why it was not implemented until 1/23???
The Rice memo posted here that was on the AILA website dated 1/25/2007 is posted on the DoS site and dated Jan 7. So, it may not be new info to the consulates. Not sure why it was not implemented until 1/23???
QUOTE(David A. @ Jan 26 2007, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE(Hannah07 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:18 PM)
My husband-to-be is the American citizen. I am the New Zealander.
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
If the I-130 was never filed, the ONLY thing your husband can do is file the I-130 at the USCIS that has jurisdiction over his home state in the USA. If the I-130 was already filed in Auckland, then the only thing you can do is wait to see what they will do to it and who they will forward it to for final approval.
But like I said, if he has never filed for the I-130, then he must now file it in America.
I'm sorry.
Not married yet ... Therefore no petition.
wow...thanks.
i wont bother asking again what some of my options might be, as no one appears to be paying attention to that paticular part of my query.
thanks for solidifying the fact that any plans we had are pretty much screwed now.
i wont bother asking again what some of my options might be, as no one appears to be paying attention to that paticular part of my query.
thanks for solidifying the fact that any plans we had are pretty much screwed now.
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jan 26 2007, 09:30 PM)
QUOTE(David A. @ Jan 26 2007, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE(Hannah07 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:18 PM)
My husband-to-be is the American citizen. I am the New Zealander.
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
He is on his way here now and we were moving back to the U.S in a couple of weeks (after our wedding).
Can i just go to the U.S on a visitors visa while the I-130 is processed in the U.S?
Do we need to start all over again?
If the I-130 was never filed, the ONLY thing your husband can do is file the I-130 at the USCIS that has jurisdiction over his home state in the USA. If the I-130 was already filed in Auckland, then the only thing you can do is wait to see what they will do to it and who they will forward it to for final approval.
But like I said, if he has never filed for the I-130, then he must now file it in America.
I'm sorry.
Not married yet ... Therefore no petition.
Oh ya, yup, since you aren't even married yet, then that means he hasn't filed for the petition. Well there you go...
Your only option now is to file in the US. Which may take 6-8 months
QUOTE(Hannah07 @ Jan 26 2007, 10:34 PM)
i wont bother asking again what some of my options might be, as no one appears to be paying attention to that paticular part of my query.
Which part? The entering and staying on a visitor's visa? If you were able to get through the POE without showing ties back to New Zealand (job, house, apartment, etc.) you would probably end up overstaying the visitor's visa while waiting out the I-130 processing and you would still have to return to New Zealand for the CR-1 interview.
Sorry, but you are back to square 1. Refile a K1 or get married and file for a K3 or CR-1.
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