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charles!
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 02:00 PM) *
I see a contradiction in saying "I don't judge others who do what I don't do, then judging people who talk about dildos when you wouldn't.

There is plenty of hypocrisy coming from those who are pointing fingers.

i'm still waiting to find out who this guy is that you discuss your sex life with, sis.
brnidokiegurl
Its got to be u Chuckie your the only one who ventures over here wacko.gif
Virtual wife
i'm still waiting to find out who this guy is that you discuss your sex life with, sis.

I know who he is. I'm married to him.

I want to know who the conservative Muslima with the conservative husband who lives a modest lifestyle is. It HAS to be one of the prudes, that's all I can figure.
melly
Just so we're all clear here, who exactly are the prudes? tongue.gif
brnidokiegurl
Not fair we cant see the ones that raise their hands !!!!
charles!
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 20 2007, 02:13 PM) *
Its got to be u Chuckie your the only one who ventures over here wacko.gif

i'm not aware of anything about her sex life so it must not be me.
Virtual wife
QUOTE(melly @ Jan 20 2007, 01:16 PM) *
Just so we're all clear here, who exactly are the prudes? tongue.gif


They know better than I do. I and others have listed the subjects that have been discussed here that involve sex and tmi, and no one was a prude then, Apparently, one of them, the conservative Muslima, has broken some secret pledge on this thread and it's causing a big commotion. I'm waiting for that shoe to drop.

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Bosco
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 03:00 PM) *
QUOTE(Bosco @ Jan 20 2007, 10:08 AM) *
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 20 2007, 10:52 AM) *
It will never cease to amaze me how people can read into posts what they want. No one here had a problem with the talk of sex toys as much as they had a problem with the contradictory behaviors and thoughts that run rampant in MENA. Anyone who is in MENA on a regular basis and bothers to take the time to understand what they are reading and the dynamics at play here know exactly to what I am referring.

If anyone thinks jokes about sex toys are inappropriate they so not have to post (as I amsure several did) and if you think jokes about sex toys are amusing, then knock youself out. But do not come here one day protraying yourself as a conservative muslima witha conservative MENA husband living a modest lifestyle only to turn aroudn and call other people prudes for questioning the NOT the appropriateness of a sex joke, but guestioning the contradictory nature of your posts.


good.gif Exactly. It is the contradiction that is the issue.


Who is this conservative muslima with a conservative MENA husband living a modest lifestyle? Have we met her? Is she on this thread? Names, please!

QUOTE(Bosco @ Jan 20 2007, 10:24 AM) *
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 20 2007, 12:02 PM) *
Next how many of your men do smoke, drink or do both?

How many of you girls smoke or drink or do both?

Im just curious to hear opinions, i dont want judgements or name calling and i dont want this to be 50 pages of you said, he said, why did you say,


Neither my husband nor I smoke, drink, or eat pork for that matter.

As an aside, we don't go around passing judgements on those who do. However, if I read someone on here calling someone out for drinking or smoking and then go on to talk about what they do that is out of line with their religion (by definitions they themselves have given), I would probably speak up. My speaking up would be about their hypocrisy and not whatever behavior they are engaging in. I probably do several things I feel are not what I should be doing in a single day, so I try not to be critical of how others are are handling their faith; however, when someone calls others out saying it clear, easy, the behavior is indulgent etc, and then goes on to make an exception for themself, it proves it isn't always so clear or easy and nearly everyone indulges in something or other.



I see a contradiction in saying "I don't judge others who do what I don't do, then judging people who talk about dildos when you wouldn't.

There is plenty of hypocrisy coming from those who are pointing fingers.


Can you stop with your lies? That is the second one you are telling about me in this thread.

First saying I am a public supporter and defender of whatever the heck you call sex and now this? Saying I have judged people talking about dildos. Re-read my posts in this thread. I have not placed any judgements on anyone - I did ask you how masturbation and extramarital sex were different from your hedonism perspective. I joked with Sarah about abnormal and gross which is an ongoing joke, and I said that the Prophet and God did not joke about masturbation, which as far as I know is a fact.

charles!
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 02:21 PM) *
QUOTE(melly @ Jan 20 2007, 01:16 PM) *
Just so we're all clear here, who exactly are the prudes? tongue.gif


They know better than I do. I and others have listed the subjects that have been discussed here that involve sex and tmi, and no one was a prude then, Apparently, one of them, the conservative Muslima, has broken some secret pledge on this thread and it's causing a big commotion. I'm waiting for that shoe to drop.

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tell em what they've won for being such a prude!

a free trip to.........
LaL
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Jan 20 2007, 03:24 PM) *
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 02:21 PM) *
QUOTE(melly @ Jan 20 2007, 01:16 PM) *
Just so we're all clear here, who exactly are the prudes? tongue.gif


They know better than I do. I and others have listed the subjects that have been discussed here that involve sex and tmi, and no one was a prude then, Apparently, one of them, the conservative Muslima, has broken some secret pledge on this thread and it's causing a big commotion. I'm waiting for that shoe to drop.

eb0dfafc.gif

tell em what they've won for being such a prude!

a free trip to.........




that is a FAKE prude ranch picture! if it was the REAL one they would all be riding sidesaddle. there is MY moan & groan! innocent.gif
Virtual wife
QUOTE(Bosco @ Jan 20 2007, 01:24 PM) *
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 03:00 PM) *
QUOTE(Bosco @ Jan 20 2007, 10:08 AM) *
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 20 2007, 10:52 AM) *
It will never cease to amaze me how people can read into posts what they want. No one here had a problem with the talk of sex toys as much as they had a problem with the contradictory behaviors and thoughts that run rampant in MENA. Anyone who is in MENA on a regular basis and bothers to take the time to understand what they are reading and the dynamics at play here know exactly to what I am referring.

If anyone thinks jokes about sex toys are inappropriate they so not have to post (as I amsure several did) and if you think jokes about sex toys are amusing, then knock youself out. But do not come here one day protraying yourself as a conservative muslima witha conservative MENA husband living a modest lifestyle only to turn aroudn and call other people prudes for questioning the NOT the appropriateness of a sex joke, but guestioning the contradictory nature of your posts.


good.gif Exactly. It is the contradiction that is the issue.


Who is this conservative muslima with a conservative MENA husband living a modest lifestyle? Have we met her? Is she on this thread? Names, please!

QUOTE(Bosco @ Jan 20 2007, 10:24 AM) *
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 20 2007, 12:02 PM) *
Next how many of your men do smoke, drink or do both?

How many of you girls smoke or drink or do both?

Im just curious to hear opinions, i dont want judgements or name calling and i dont want this to be 50 pages of you said, he said, why did you say,


Neither my husband nor I smoke, drink, or eat pork for that matter.

As an aside, we don't go around passing judgements on those who do. However, if I read someone on here calling someone out for drinking or smoking and then go on to talk about what they do that is out of line with their religion (by definitions they themselves have given), I would probably speak up. My speaking up would be about their hypocrisy and not whatever behavior they are engaging in. I probably do several things I feel are not what I should be doing in a single day, so I try not to be critical of how others are are handling their faith; however, when someone calls others out saying it clear, easy, the behavior is indulgent etc, and then goes on to make an exception for themself, it proves it isn't always so clear or easy and nearly everyone indulges in something or other.



I see a contradiction in saying "I don't judge others who do what I don't do, then judging people who talk about dildos when you wouldn't.

There is plenty of hypocrisy coming from those who are pointing fingers.


Can you stop with your lies? That is the second one you are telling about me in this thread.

First saying I am a public supporter and defender of whatever the heck you call sex and now this? Saying I have judged people talking about dildos. Re-read my posts in this thread. I have not placed any judgements on anyone - I did ask you how masturbation and extramarital sex were different from your hedonism perspective. I joked with Sarah about abnormal and gross which is an ongoing joke, and I said that the Prophet and God did not joke about masturbation, which as far as I know is a fact.



Not a lie when I take what you've said to me as a means of trying to make a point that infers that I've done something wrong here. Why ask me about if masturbation and premarital sex were different from hedonism if, in that context, you weren't trying to point out some contradiciton on my part? To me, that puts you in the judgment category. If you're not, my bad, but it sure comes across that way.
charles!
QUOTE(lal_brandow @ Jan 20 2007, 02:27 PM) *
that is a FAKE prude ranch picture! if it was the REAL one they would all be riding sidesaddle. there is MY moan & groan! innocent.gif

lol, too many days in the saddle makes one ride sidesaddle laughing.gif
deeshla
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 20 2007, 02:06 AM) *
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 12:45 AM) *
Religious people like sex too. God talks about sex in the Quran, and the Sunnah of the Prophet has never been shy about it. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

Prude patrol, please continue haranging. Your need for drama is never ending.


Riiiigggghtt. It couldn't possibly be that the hypocrisy of some is being pointedly revealed? The Prophet might have something to say about married muslimas who blast their bedroom business on a public forum. Or maybe he was more of a Totally Rad Open Guy About Sex than I thought. If its Prudes vs. Proud Vibrator Owners Who are Married but Will Joke About Vibrators on an Open Forum with Men Who Aren't Their Husbands, I'll be on the Prude Team.


I love to read anything you write. I can't find a smiley that nods its head strongly enough.
Virtual wife
I love to read anything you write. I can't find a smiley that nods its head strongly enough.

Now, if only any of it were true!
just_Jackie
on that note....it is sunny and chilly in Chicago. Snow expected later. Go Bear's on Sunday.

Jackie
(nothing controversial here, except the bears will pounce on the saints wink.gif )

mybackpages
QUOTE(jmagayreh @ Jan 20 2007, 02:45 PM) *
on that note....it is sunny and chilly in Chicago. Snow expected later. Go Bear's on Sunday.

Jackie
(nothing controversial here, except the bears will pounce on the saints wink.gif )



sunny? what is that? crying.gif
oh and is it football season? whistling.gif
charles!
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 02:44 PM) *
I love to read anything you write. I can't find a smiley that nods its head strongly enough.

Now, if only any of it were true!

apparently, it's ok for someone to blast their vibrator news around the forum as long as no men read it tongue.gif
charles!
maybe a few of the posters here need this when they are in mena........

link
Virtual wife
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Jan 20 2007, 01:48 PM) *
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 02:44 PM) *
I love to read anything you write. I can't find a smiley that nods its head strongly enough.

Now, if only any of it were true!

apparently, it's ok for someone to blast their vibrator news around the forum as long as no men read it tongue.gif


What some of the judgers don't seem to realize is that by being so self-righteous about this, they've given lots of power to others to criticize the content of their posts and pronounce them lowlifes. What until there's another panty post laughing.gif

So goes the MENA drama factory.
melly
I hope I can offend someone with this. I'm wearing blue and white striped panties today. tongue.gif laughing.gif
charles!
QUOTE(melly @ Jan 20 2007, 03:55 PM) *
I hope I can offend someone with this. I'm wearing blue and white striped panties today. tongue.gif laughing.gif

Aymerlu
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 19 2007, 01:12 PM) *
QUOTE(moody @ Jan 19 2007, 11:49 AM) *
Hehehehe!!!!!! laughing.gif Mine is silver, btw wink.gif


Mine looks almost real and glows in the dark. Wouldn't it be cool if the real ones glowed in the dark? laughing.gif

LOL! OMG....I had to explain this to the hubby laughing.gif
charles!
QUOTE(Aymerlu @ Jan 20 2007, 04:14 PM) *
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 19 2007, 01:12 PM) *
QUOTE(moody @ Jan 19 2007, 11:49 AM) *
Hehehehe!!!!!! laughing.gif Mine is silver, btw wink.gif


Mine looks almost real and glows in the dark. Wouldn't it be cool if the real ones glowed in the dark? laughing.gif

LOL! OMG....I had to explain this to the hubby laughing.gif

well........there is a way, for those adventurous enough to try it. innocent.gif

cut one of these chemlights open. apply (they are non-toxic). turn off the lights. link



waits for results......... whistling.gif
Virtual wife
I'm not touchin that with a 10 foot pole (no pun intended).
charles!
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 04:29 PM) *
I'm not touchin that with a 10 foot pole (no pun intended).

doodlebug
omg!!!!!!


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Melly I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO offended!!!!!

STRIPED??????

Good gawd woman what are you thinking???

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On a side note, I really still don't know how this thread got into the whole sexual thing. Oh well.

Carry on.

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sarah and hicham
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 20 2007, 02:41 PM) *
omg!!!!!!


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Melly I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO offended!!!!!

STRIPED??????

Good gawd woman what are you thinking???

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On a side note, I really still don't know how this thread got into the whole sexual thing. Oh well.

Carry on.

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It started on page 1.
noura
QUOTE(jmagayreh @ Jan 20 2007, 02:45 PM) *
on that note....it is sunny and chilly in Chicago. Snow expected later. Go Bear's on Sunday.

Jackie
(nothing controversial here, except the bears will pounce on the saints wink.gif )

NOT! laughing.gif GO SAINTS!!!!! innocent.gif Jac, this is where you & I will disagaree and you will be moaning tomorrow tongue.gif
Virtual wife
Noura, you were laughing too. tongue.gif
noura
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 04:53 PM) *
Noura, you were laughing too. tongue.gif

I'm laughing that Jackie thinks the Bears will win over the Saints! laughing.gif tongue.gif

eta: oh yeah, and I'm so not a football fan!

but if you mean I was laughing abt the dildo comments... it was me saying TMI! (and giggling)...
doodlebug
Go Pats!!!! kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif
Virtual wife
Go Shopping! dancin5hr.gif Cya later, sises! There is cash burning a hole in my pockets! laughing.gif
charles!
QUOTE(noura @ Jan 20 2007, 04:55 PM) *
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 04:53 PM) *
Noura, you were laughing too. tongue.gif

I'm laughing that Jackie thinks the Bears will win over the Saints! laughing.gif tongue.gif

eta: oh yeah, and I'm so not a football fan!

but if you mean I was laughing abt the dildo comments... it was me saying TMI! (and giggling)...

the bears what? whistling.gif
brnidokiegurl
Charles you need to be shot why did you bring this one out of the dungeon????????? unsure.gif
doodlebug
Hey Charles....


charles!
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 22 2007, 01:55 PM) *
Charles you need to be shot why did you bring this one out of the dungeon????????? unsure.gif

i was looking for something and ran across that post by noura biggrin.gif
and i see you and raise you doodlebug

just_Jackie
DA BEARS good.gif

Jackie rose.gif
noura
QUOTE(jmagayreh @ Jan 22 2007, 02:08 PM) *
DA BEARS good.gif

Jackie rose.gif

crying.gif alright.... but the Saints had the best year they've ever had! innocent.gif
charles!
QUOTE(jmagayreh @ Jan 22 2007, 02:08 PM) *
DA BEARS good.gif

Jackie rose.gif

now where is that bank transfer you promised me for this? tongue.gif
just_Jackie
I'm sorry Noura whistling.gif Ya gotta admit tho da Bear's gave their all to win that game. Did you see the backflip into the endzone for a touchdown? Awesome play.

Ok, I'm done bragging on da Bear's. Til Feb 4th laughing.gif

Jackie rose.gif
PEGGY
Interesting Thred...............


noura
QUOTE(jmagayreh @ Jan 22 2007, 02:37 PM) *
I'm sorry Noura whistling.gif Ya gotta admit tho da Bear's gave their all to win that game. Did you see the backflip into the endzone for a touchdown? Awesome play.

Ok, I'm done bragging on da Bear's. Til Feb 4th laughing.gif

Jackie rose.gif

yep Jac... that was a good play! Did you see the 88 yard run for a touchdown by Reggie Bush? I loved his funky jig afterwards in the end zone star_smile.gif
doodlebug
actually this is the perfect thread to whine about the Pats not winning. crying.gif
boardashell_2000
I am doing Weight Watcher as well...slowly walk to the kitchen and throw that cake away...LOL

QUOTE(Cassie @ Jan 19 2007, 01:55 PM) *
I am doing Weight Watchers, and there's an Italian Cream Cake sitting in our kitchen at work.... I swear I can smell it from my desk. ph34r.gif

Maggie724
QUOTE(pink_roses @ Jan 22 2007, 12:39 PM) *
Interesting Thred...............


Indeed! blink.gif How many topics are allowed within one thread?? unsure.gif

Well since it's apparently unlimited, my new groan is I have been using and looking those yellow guys so long, now I tihnk them!! For example if I have a puzzling thought, I see this guy unsure.gif or this guy blink.gif in my head...Ok Doodle, I'm in serious need of that therapy now!! laughing.gif Is there a 12step program for this? unsure.gif
doodlebug
QUOTE(Maggie724 @ Jan 22 2007, 05:39 PM) *
QUOTE(pink_roses @ Jan 22 2007, 12:39 PM) *
Interesting Thred...............


Indeed! blink.gif How many topics are allowed within one thread?? unsure.gif

Well since it's apparently unlimited, my new groan is I have been using and looking those yellow guys so long, now I tihnk them!! For example if I have a puzzling thought, I see this guy unsure.gif or this guy blink.gif in my head...Ok Doodle, I'm in serious need of that therapy now!! laughing.gif Is there a 12step program for this? unsure.gif


As long as you don't start saying "lol" outloud I think you'll be fine if you just take a night off.

Now step away from the computer.......................slooooowly back away........ good.gif
cbd2cai
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 22 2007, 04:48 PM) *
As long as you don't start saying "lol" outloud I think you'll be fine if you just take a night off.



helpsmilie.gif . . . I am trying so hard NOT to do this . . . because I have started to think it and I realized I have finally tripped over the line laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif
brnidokiegurl
Wonder if theres a little home somewhere far away with little wacko.gif all on the walls so we each can remember the good days innocent.gif and the bad devil.gif were we can remember our friends from vj wink.gif and all our adventures kicking.gif At least we will all know what were talking about helpsmilie.gif
deemabrouk
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 20 2007, 11:13 AM) *
QUOTE(deemabrouk @ Jan 20 2007, 09:14 AM) *
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QUOTE(deemabrouk @ Jan 19 2007, 04:32 PM) *
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 01:32 PM) *
my cell phone bill for the time i was in egypt is $550 and i have no freakin idea how i'm gonna pay it other than from my tax return.

that's exactly why my cell phone got shut off after I came home from Egypt... my bill was $800 dollars sad.gif and a egyptian mans salary cant pay it ... GRrrrrrrrrrr!



Oh wow I just looked at your timeline!!! blink.gif I sure thought that VSC was going along a LOT quicker than THAT!!!!!!! Have they mentioned what the hold up is?

you really think things are THAT behind?? From what I noticed I thought it was Right on schedule sad.gif I talked to the immigration people and they the I 130 is average 6 months.. and my I 129f seems to be moving along. From most of my friends.. and then people here at VJ .. Immigration can go as slow OR quick as they( the gov) want. My girlfriend (egyptian) married a man from America - from her marriage date it took her 5 MONTHS!! to come into the country.. And then I know another guy(egyptian) who married a american.. it took him almost 2 years from when they were married to come to the states.

I am trying to stay positive.. atleast for my husbands sake.. even thought it is easy to sink into the deepest depression over all of this. The first year of your marriage is suppposed to be your "honeymoon" period.. filled with romance, love, excitment and all the gushy things of newly weds.. And with the Visa process.. It is pushing me to my Edge of Patience, depression, sadness, overeating, being stressed out-of-my-mind. We fight with eachother out of frustration.. and in the end make up.. telling eachother that we are sorry and that we are completely overwhelmed with our situation sad.gif We tell ourselves that this is just a Test for us to get through.. What doesnt kill you will make you stronger right??? whistling.gif blink.gif crying.gif unsure.gif


Actually I was looking at your I130timeline and assumed that you filed the I129F at the same time without paying attention. It seems as though they are holding the I130's up until the I129F's get processed and even then the new trend is to retain the I130. The I129 seems to be going well. I've seen many from Vermont have their NOA2 within anywhere from 30 to 60 days, though there are the exceptions so keep your hopes up!!!

And I can totally relate to the fact that this should be the honeymoon lovey dovey time. Hang in there kiddo...this too shall pass. Surah 94 was suggested to me last night and I have vowed to read it everyday until this whole nightmare is over. rose.gif

I think I Jinxed myself with my I130.. I looked at my timeline.. and it jumped back a month sad.gif to the end of Febuary crying.gif
doodlebug
QUOTE(deemabrouk @ Jan 22 2007, 09:33 PM) *
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 20 2007, 11:13 AM) *
QUOTE(deemabrouk @ Jan 20 2007, 09:14 AM) *
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 05:19 PM) *
QUOTE(deemabrouk @ Jan 19 2007, 04:32 PM) *
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 01:32 PM) *
my cell phone bill for the time i was in egypt is $550 and i have no freakin idea how i'm gonna pay it other than from my tax return.

that's exactly why my cell phone got shut off after I came home from Egypt... my bill was $800 dollars sad.gif and a egyptian mans salary cant pay it ... GRrrrrrrrrrr!



Oh wow I just looked at your timeline!!! blink.gif I sure thought that VSC was going along a LOT quicker than THAT!!!!!!! Have they mentioned what the hold up is?

you really think things are THAT behind?? From what I noticed I thought it was Right on schedule sad.gif I talked to the immigration people and they the I 130 is average 6 months.. and my I 129f seems to be moving along. From most of my friends.. and then people here at VJ .. Immigration can go as slow OR quick as they( the gov) want. My girlfriend (egyptian) married a man from America - from her marriage date it took her 5 MONTHS!! to come into the country.. And then I know another guy(egyptian) who married a american.. it took him almost 2 years from when they were married to come to the states.

I am trying to stay positive.. atleast for my husbands sake.. even thought it is easy to sink into the deepest depression over all of this. The first year of your marriage is suppposed to be your "honeymoon" period.. filled with romance, love, excitment and all the gushy things of newly weds.. And with the Visa process.. It is pushing me to my Edge of Patience, depression, sadness, overeating, being stressed out-of-my-mind. We fight with eachother out of frustration.. and in the end make up.. telling eachother that we are sorry and that we are completely overwhelmed with our situation sad.gif We tell ourselves that this is just a Test for us to get through.. What doesnt kill you will make you stronger right??? whistling.gif blink.gif crying.gif unsure.gif


Actually I was looking at your I130timeline and assumed that you filed the I129F at the same time without paying attention. It seems as though they are holding the I130's up until the I129F's get processed and even then the new trend is to retain the I130. The I129 seems to be going well. I've seen many from Vermont have their NOA2 within anywhere from 30 to 60 days, though there are the exceptions so keep your hopes up!!!

And I can totally relate to the fact that this should be the honeymoon lovey dovey time. Hang in there kiddo...this too shall pass. Surah 94 was suggested to me last night and I have vowed to read it everyday until this whole nightmare is over. rose.gif

I think I Jinxed myself with my I130.. I looked at my timeline.. and it jumped back a month sad.gif to the end of Febuary crying.gif



well that's not too bad. That would be only a little over 60 days for a noa2 from the time you sent it in right? Then another month or so to get an interview date which should bring that to about April or May....then a few months of AP and inshallah you'd have him home by July or August in time for a big ole cookout! good.gif good.gif
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