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sarah and hicham
QUOTE(Private @ Jan 19 2007, 06:52 PM) *
Whatever, some one said earlier, about glow in the dark; I say something then it is the end of the world. I will remove my post.



No, the people who said that said the entire discussion is disgusting including your input. It's not the end of the world don't worry- you're not a victim.
jordanianprincess
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mybackpages
I wonder what the MENA mother-in-laws would have to say about this thread. blink.gif
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 19 2007, 06:55 PM) *
I wonder what the MENA mother-in-laws would have to say about this thread. blink.gif


LOL or the husbands..... laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif
Jenn!
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 19 2007, 09:56 PM) *
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 19 2007, 06:55 PM) *
I wonder what the MENA mother-in-laws would have to say about this thread. blink.gif


LOL or the husbands..... laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif


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sarah and hicham
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 19 2007, 06:56 PM) *
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 19 2007, 06:55 PM) *
I wonder what the MENA mother-in-laws would have to say about this thread. blink.gif


LOL or the husbands..... laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif



I'm sure that the MILs AND the husbands/fiances would be very proud and pleased to see this type of trash coming from their fiancee/wife. In your dreams.
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Jan 19 2007, 06:57 PM) *
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 19 2007, 06:56 PM) *
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 19 2007, 06:55 PM) *
I wonder what the MENA mother-in-laws would have to say about this thread. blink.gif


LOL or the husbands..... laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif



I'm sure that the MILs AND the husbands/fiances would be very proud and pleased to see this type of trash coming from their fiancee/wife. In your dreams.



This is just too much excitment for one day! laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif
girl 37
If only we did everything to please our mothers-in-law and husbands. tongue_ss.gif
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(girl 37 @ Jan 19 2007, 07:00 PM) *
If only we did everything to please our mothers-in-law and husbands. tongue_ss.gif


true- because talking about vibrators and sex toys just cannot be avoided at any cost.
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(girl 37 @ Jan 19 2007, 07:00 PM) *
If only we did everything to please our mothers-in-law and husbands. tongue_ss.gif



So true....but then again I wouldn't do anything to disgrace them either. no0pb.gif
peezey
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 19 2007, 09:56 PM) *
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 19 2007, 06:55 PM) *
I wonder what the MENA mother-in-laws would have to say about this thread. blink.gif


LOL or the husbands..... laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif


JP, you started a thread about what husbands might do if there were certain unacceptable sexual behaviors by women in their families. I have a feeling discussing dildos and masturbation in an open forum might fall into the unacceptable category.
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 19 2007, 07:05 PM) *
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 19 2007, 09:56 PM) *
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 19 2007, 06:55 PM) *
I wonder what the MENA mother-in-laws would have to say about this thread. blink.gif


LOL or the husbands..... laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif


JP, you started a thread about what husbands might do if there were certain unacceptable sexual behaviors by women in their families. I have a feeling discussing dildos and masturbation in an open forum might fall into the unacceptable category.



Ya think???!!!??? What is more suprising is some of the posts, not all , but some, came from people who have always portrayed themselves as very religious people. Do you think they can bring those to Hajj for their honeymoon? laughing.gif
peezey
QUOTE(girl 37 @ Jan 19 2007, 10:00 PM) *
If only we did everything to please our mothers-in-law and husbands. tongue_ss.gif


You aren't marrying into MENA, I take it.
Bosco
hush hush or you will soon be accused of being in the cabal, being part of the popular girls that tear others to shreds whistling.gif
peezey
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 19 2007, 10:07 PM) *
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 19 2007, 07:05 PM) *
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 19 2007, 09:56 PM) *
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 19 2007, 06:55 PM) *
I wonder what the MENA mother-in-laws would have to say about this thread. blink.gif


LOL or the husbands..... laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif


JP, you started a thread about what husbands might do if there were certain unacceptable sexual behaviors by women in their families. I have a feeling discussing dildos and masturbation in an open forum might fall into the unacceptable category.



Ya think???!!!??? What is more suprising is some of the posts, not all , but some, came from people who have always portrayed themselves as very religious people. Do you think they can bring those to Hajj for their honeymoon? laughing.gif


Or they can go to Jamaica for Hedonism 2007.
girl 37
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 19 2007, 09:07 PM) *
QUOTE(girl 37 @ Jan 19 2007, 10:00 PM) *
If only we did everything to please our mothers-in-law and husbands. tongue_ss.gif


You aren't marrying into MENA, I take it.

no0pb.gif innocent.gif
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 19 2007, 07:09 PM) *
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 19 2007, 10:07 PM) *
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 19 2007, 07:05 PM) *
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 19 2007, 09:56 PM) *
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jan 19 2007, 06:55 PM) *
I wonder what the MENA mother-in-laws would have to say about this thread. blink.gif


LOL or the husbands..... laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif


JP, you started a thread about what husbands might do if there were certain unacceptable sexual behaviors by women in their families. I have a feeling discussing dildos and masturbation in an open forum might fall into the unacceptable category.



Ya think???!!!??? What is more suprising is some of the posts, not all , but some, came from people who have always portrayed themselves as very religious people. Do you think they can bring those to Hajj for their honeymoon? laughing.gif


Or they can go to Jamaica for Hedonism 2007.


LMAOOOOOO laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif
Bosco
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 19 2007, 10:09 PM) *
Or they can go to Jamaica for Hedonism 2007.


is masturbation hedonistic?
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(Bosco @ Jan 19 2007, 07:10 PM) *
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 19 2007, 10:09 PM) *
Or they can go to Jamaica for Hedonism 2007.


is masturbation hedonistic?


Is it haram?
jordanianprincess
Tsk tsk....

Source
Masturbation in Islam
Masturbation (for both men and women) is haraam (forbidden) in Islam based on the following evidence:

First from the Qur'aan:

Imam Shafi'i stated that masturbation is forbidden based on the following verses from the Qur'aan (interpretation of the meaning):

"And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts). Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, - for them, they are free from blame. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors." 23.5-7 Here the verses are clear in forbidding all illegal sexual acts (including masturbation) except for the wives or that their right hand possess. And whoever seeks beyond that is the transgressor.

"And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His bounty." 24.33. This verse also clearly orders whoever does not have the financial means to marry to keep himself chaste and be patient in facing temptations (including masturbation) until Allah enriches them of His bounty.

Secondly, from the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him):

Abdullaah ibn Mas'ood said, "We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatsoever. So Allah's Messenger said, "O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power." Bukhari:5066. The hadeeth orders men who are not able to marry to fast despite the hardship encountered in doing so, and not to masturbate despite the ease with which it can be done.

There are additional evidences that can be cited to support this ruling on masturbation, but due to the limited space we will not go through them here. Allah knows what is best and most correct.

As for curing the habit of masturbation, we recommend the following suggestions:

1) The motive to seek a cure for this problem should be solely following Allah's orders and fearing His punishment.

2) A permanent and quick cure from this problem lies in marriage as soon as the person is able, as shown in the Prophet's hadeeth.

3) Keeping oneself busy with what is good for this world and the hereafter is essential in breaking this habit before it becomes second nature after which it is very difficult to rid oneself of it.

4) Lowering the gaze (from looking at forbidden things such as pictures, movies etc.) will help suppress the desire before it leads one to commit the haraam (forbidden). Allah orders men and women to lower their gaze as shown in the following two verses and in the Prophet's hadeeth (interpretations of the meanings):

"Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is all-aware of what they do. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.)... " 24.30-31

Allah's messenger said: "Do not follow a casual (unintentional) look (at forbidden things) with another look." Al-Tirmidhi 2777. This is a general instruction by the Prophet to abstain from all that may sexually excite a person because it might lead him/her to commit the haraam (forbidden).

5) Using one's available leisure time in worshipping Allah and increasing religious knowledge.

6) Being cautious not to develop any of the medical symptoms that may result from masturbation such as weak eyesight, weak nervous system, and/or back pain. More importantly, feeling of guilt and anxiety that can be complicated by missing obligatory prayers because of the need to shower (ghusl) after every incidence of masturbation.

7) Avoiding the illusion that some youth have that masturbation is permissible because it prevents them from committing illegal sexual acts such as fornication or even homosexuality.

8) Strengthening one's willpower and avoiding spending time alone as recommended by the Prophet when he said "Do not spend the night alone" Ahmad 6919.

9) Following the Prophet's aforementioned hadeeth and fast when possible because fasting will temper one's sexual desire and keep it under control. However, one should not overreact and swear by Allah not to return to the act because if one does not honor one's promise, one would be facing the consequences of not living up to one's oath to Allah. Also, note that medication to diminish one's sexual desire is strictly prohibited because it might permanently affect one's sexual ability.

10) Trying to follow the Prophet's recommendation concerning the etiquette of getting ready for bed, such as reading well-known supplications, sleeping on the right side, and avoiding sleeping on the belly (the Prophet forbade sleeping on the belly).

11) Striving hard to be patient and chaste, because persistence will eventually, Allah willing, lead to attaining those qualities as second nature, as the Prophet explains in the following hadeeth: "Whoever seeks chastity Allah will make him chaste, and whoever seeks help from none but Allah, He will help him, and whoever is patient He will make it easy for him, and no one has ever been given anything better than patience." Bukhari:1469.

12) Repenting, asking forgiveness from Allah, doing good deeds, and not losing hope and feeling despair are all prerequisites to curing this problem. Note that losing hope is one of the major sins punishable by Allah.

13) Finally, Allah is the Most Merciful and He always responds to whoever calls on Him. So, asking for Allah's forgiveness will be accepted, by His will.

And Allah knows what is best and most correct
doodlebug
ok no idea how my thread got to this point ...................... blink.gif
sarah and hicham
I read masturbation is only done as a last resort to prevent sin, so are you all on the verge of sinning and rectifying it with your vibrators?
doodlebug
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Jan 19 2007, 10:33 PM) *
I read masturbation is only as a last resort to prevent sin, so are you all on the verge of sinning and rectifying it with your vibrators?



i don't even own a vibrator!!!!! blink.gif
gonewiththewind
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 07:34 PM) *
well that's that. just spoke to him.

Bottom line a visa is not in our near future for a few years because of something that happened two days ago.

I'm going to go cry my freakin' eyes out now.



doodlebug hope everything is ok and if you need to talk we are here i just hope things are OK
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 07:34 PM) *
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Jan 19 2007, 10:33 PM) *
I read masturbation is only as a last resort to prevent sin, so are you all on the verge of sinning and rectifying it with your vibrators?



i don't even own a vibrator!!!!! blink.gif



I didn't say you did.
doodlebug
QUOTE(just waiting for my habebe @ Jan 19 2007, 10:35 PM) *
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 07:34 PM) *
well that's that. just spoke to him.

Bottom line a visa is not in our near future for a few years because of something that happened two days ago.

I'm going to go cry my freakin' eyes out now.



doodlebug hope everything is ok and if you need to talk we are here i just hope things are OK


thanks. just waiting for my nyquil to kick in and i'll be fine.
Jenn!
I need a cigarette!
Caladan
I feel like I'm missing something here. But I wanted to send mental good vibes to doodle (NOT THE GROSS AND ABNORMAL BATTERY OPERATED KIND wink.gif ), because it sounds like she could use a bathtub full of chocolate and a wide straw.

(Are you guys seriously parodying yourselves here? Wasn't the Internet pretty much invented for anonymous, inappropriate conversations?)
just_Jackie
nice thread. a little tmi. glad hubby don't come here blush.gif Last time he did , I had to explain 'laundry' to him. laughing.gif

Jackie rose.gif

doodlebug
QUOTE(Caladan @ Jan 19 2007, 10:37 PM) *
sounds like she could use a bathtub full of chocolate and a wide straw.



OMG that would certainly take some of the edge off right now!!!!! good.gif
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 07:41 PM) *
QUOTE(Caladan @ Jan 19 2007, 10:37 PM) *
sounds like she could use a bathtub full of chocolate and a wide straw.



OMG that would certainly take some of the edge off right now!!!!! good.gif



Easy on the nyquil, I heard alcohol is haram.

ps. nyquil is 20 proof.
doodlebug
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Jan 19 2007, 10:49 PM) *
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 07:41 PM) *
QUOTE(Caladan @ Jan 19 2007, 10:37 PM) *
sounds like she could use a bathtub full of chocolate and a wide straw.



OMG that would certainly take some of the edge off right now!!!!! good.gif



Easy on the nyquil, I heard alcohol is haram.

ps. nyquil is 20 proof.


aww thanks hon!!! always can count on you for support and compassion! good.gif
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 08:22 PM) *
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Jan 19 2007, 10:49 PM) *
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Jan 19 2007, 07:41 PM) *
QUOTE(Caladan @ Jan 19 2007, 10:37 PM) *
sounds like she could use a bathtub full of chocolate and a wide straw.



OMG that would certainly take some of the edge off right now!!!!! good.gif



Easy on the nyquil, I heard alcohol is haram.

ps. nyquil is 20 proof.


aww thanks hon!!! always can count on you for support and compassion! good.gif


anytime toots.
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(doodlebug @ Dec 3 2006, 12:04 PM) *
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Dec 3 2006, 01:56 PM) *

QUOTE(peezey @ Dec 3 2006, 09:02 AM) *

QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Dec 3 2006, 04:32 AM) *

Hiiiii,
Hicham and I just got home and I wanted to say Happy Sunday!

Have a great day everyone!

Sarah and Hicham



Holy Moly, girl, what were you two up to?
Jackie, out of probably a dozen company holiday parties, I'd guess most ended in disaster of some sort for me. I honestly don't know what happens then suddenly someone has a meltdown, or someone drinks too much, or someone's fighting with their husband, or office fights come out.



We went to an English pub to watch a band and have a beer (or two).


Does Hicham drink?



Doodle remember when you helped me out with asking if Hicham drinks? I'm just returning the favor.
noura
boy.... this has gone waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy downhill in a few hours! whistling.gif
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(noura @ Jan 19 2007, 09:07 PM) *
boy.... this has gone waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy downhill in a few hours! whistling.gif



You know you love it!

Actually I believe the thread went downhill on page 1 when people starting describing their sex toys.
peezey
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Jan 20 2007, 12:08 AM) *
QUOTE(noura @ Jan 19 2007, 09:07 PM) *
boy.... this has gone waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy downhill in a few hours! whistling.gif



You know you love it!

Actually I believe the thread went downhill on page 1 when people starting describing their sex toys.


Yep, it only took 38 minutes from the time of the first post til the time someone felt it necessary to start in with their sex toys.
cbd2cai
Gross and abnormal??? I thought that was the topic??
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(cbd2cai @ Jan 19 2007, 09:16 PM) *
Gross and abnormal??? I thought that was the topic??


I don't get it, sorry.
Virtual wife
Religious people like sex too. God talks about sex in the Quran, and the Sunnah of the Prophet has never been shy about it. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

Prude patrol, please continue haranging. Your need for drama is never ending.
Virtual wife
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Jan 19 2007, 08:33 PM) *
I read masturbation is only done as a last resort to prevent sin, so are you all on the verge of sinning and rectifying it with your vibrators?


At least they're sex toys and not boy toys laughing.gif
Heartland
In summery:

My mom Used my bank account while I was in Jordan to pay for car payments.

My daughter was suppose to pay my bills for me but didnt so I am behind three months.

I gave my daughter all my extra money to pay her bills.

I dont have a job yet so no money comming in but child support.

My daughter moved in with me 18, her husband and baby too. All in a three bedroom small house.

I was pregnant that is why I came back to the USA from Jordan.

I lost the baby.

My mom tried to take me to court to get custody of my children as she didnt want me to take them to Jordan.
Since she lost that, she got intouch with my bipolar ex husband and tried to get him to take me to court (he who has supervised visitations and he hasnt seen the girls in a year or so)

I have interviewd and tested for ONE job four times and have to go in tomorrow and monday for final tests and interview.

I dont have a car but I did buy my daughter a car before I left, but someone smashed out her window and she doesnt have insurance on it...

I have a 13 yr old with a attitude from hades. She is a red head so should I say more?

I have a 11 yr old who cried because she had to take pubic busses to school and she was terrified to go alone.

I have shut off notices from Electric and Gas and the phone charge to start phone service is 300.00. but you have to have a phone to get a job right?

I had the flu, then pneumonia.

I am now on antidepressants but I cant sleep from them

My best friend brought me groceries and gave me 100.00

My husbands bil died and he has to take care of his sister and her three kids on top of another divorced sister and a sister who has cerebral palsy. He is working so much

DH had a heart attack due to stress and highblood pressure.

My house needs a good cleaning and with three girls living here well four with me, it should be spotless. I cant do it all!

I have a yeast infection...sigh!

I miss my husband

But hang in there!!!!!!!!!!












melly
Holy moly Heartland!!! Wishing you much luck in getting things back in order! smile.gif
peezey
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 12:45 AM) *
Religious people like sex too. God talks about sex in the Quran, and the Sunnah of the Prophet has never been shy about it. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

Prude patrol, please continue haranging. Your need for drama is never ending.


Riiiigggghtt. It couldn't possibly be that the hypocrisy of some is being pointedly revealed? The Prophet might have something to say about married muslimas who blast their bedroom business on a public forum. Or maybe he was more of a Totally Rad Open Guy About Sex than I thought. If its Prudes vs. Proud Vibrator Owners Who are Married but Will Joke About Vibrators on an Open Forum with Men Who Aren't Their Husbands, I'll be on the Prude Team.
Virtual wife
I wouldn't discuss what goes on between my husband and I, and that's not what I did, Besides, dildos aren't limited to the boudoir.

Sounds like you could use a dildo yourself, peezy. You're way uptight.
peezey
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 12:54 AM) *
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Jan 19 2007, 08:33 PM) *
I read masturbation is only done as a last resort to prevent sin, so are you all on the verge of sinning and rectifying it with your vibrators?


At least they're sex toys and not boy toys laughing.gif



Since the prude patrol is mostly gone to bed, carry on with your vibrator raves. I'm sure God and the Prophet totally had this behavior in mind when they were open about sex.
Virtual wife
You're an atheist. How would you know what God has in mind?

Additionally, why would you even care?
peezey
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 01:09 AM) *
I wouldn't discuss what goes on between my husband and I, and that's not what I did, Besides, dildos aren't limited to the boudoir.

Sounds like you could use a dildo yourself, peezy. You're way uptight.


Ah, so masturbation and the discussion thereof for entertainment, with a man who is not your husband, is the kind of hedonism you approve of? Good to know.

We're talking about your hypocrisy, which has nothing to do with my composition.

Bosco
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 01:12 AM) *
You're an atheist. How would you know what God has in mind?

Additionally, why would you even care?


ahhh... the atheist card had to come out

ETA: Meanwhile, Christians, Muslims, Atheists and non-denominationals have all expressed similar sentiments about the discussion.
peezey
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 20 2007, 01:12 AM) *
You're an atheist. How would you know what God has in mind?

Additionally, why would you even care?


You're the one who trotted out what God thought and said about sex. And, this atheist has read the good book a few times, as you well know, it's really not hard to figure out what God had in mind.

But we can skip that if you like and move on to MENA culture and the un-acceptability of talking about sex, sex toys, and masturbation with virtual strangers and men who aren't your husband.
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