This will most likely be my final post in MENA, if not in VJ all together. I have learned a lot from you guys, but the time has come for me to depart. While I am sad to go, I cannot participate in this 3rd grade BS anymore.
I thought this site was to help others get through what can be an incredibly hard process. Especially when dealing with SOs in the middle east. Those who have been through it know how hard it is to wait and wait and maybe even be denied for no good reason and then fight like hell to win. But you know when you are with people who have been there, they will guide you, help you, cry with you, whatever it takes to get you through to success. I have watched others get their visas, reunite and marry, and I cheered every one of them on, even though it hurt because they interviewed after us. I wanted those same people to give me dancing yellow guys when my turn came. I went through hard times, and there were people who were there for me every step, people I thought were real friends. Sucker that I am. The saddest part for me is that the people I thought were my friends were the ones that hurt me the most in the end.
I rarely if ever got caught up in the drama of others. It seems that although I have tried to be friendly/nice towards everyone, that is not allowed here. I did not read in the TOS that there were police here who will PM you when you talk to someone they do not like. It's the freaking internet. We will never meet 95% of the people we see on here. So why the big deal??? Why is it you have to choose what you can and cannot reply to because Susie won't talk to you if you do? I tried to simply ignore the PMs, which came from more than one person, but no, they just kept coming. This process is hard as hell at times. And to have to deal with this kind of drama is flat out ridiculous. So for that reason, this forum no longer serves the purpose I came here for.
I wish those of you who are together all the happiness in the world, and those of you still waiting a speedy visa in hand celebration.
Full Version: Goodbye
Did I miss something? 
Women are so stupid.
QUOTE(Gupt @ Jan 13 2007, 09:33 PM) 
Women are so stupid.
and Men are pigs...so what is your point?
Sweetie, I added you to my friends list just yesterday! Sorry about the PMs. I don't get them, but I'm often a subject of them, I hear.
I hope you reconsider, but best wishes to you, whatever you choose.
I hope you reconsider, but best wishes to you, whatever you choose.
Bonne Chance!
I think I missed something too.
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 14 2007, 12:32 AM)
Did I miss something?
I think I missed something too.
Dramatic goodbye posts are 3rd grade B.S. IMO.
Hope you stay, and the PMS are childish as you said. THis group can have so much to offer to others that need the help, me included, but we (or I) already know how to fight and argue. I don't see any other group being made fun of so much as this one, I liked Maggie and I think those of you responsible for her words will see yourselves, but then again you probably wont.
yallah!
And just the other day I thought you were an advocate for "two sides to every story".
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 13 2007, 09:53 PM)
Hope you stay, and the PMS are childish as you said. THis group can have so much to offer to others that need the help, me included, but we (or I) already know how to fight and argue. I don't see any other group being made fun of so much as this one, I liked Maggie and I think those of you responsible for her words will see yourselves, but then again you probably wont.
And just the other day I thought you were an advocate for "two sides to every story".
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 12:53 AM)
Hope you stay, and the PMS are childish as you said. THis group can have so much to offer to others that need the help, me included, but we (or I) already know how to fight and argue. I don't see any other group being made fun of so much as this one, I liked Maggie and I think those of you responsible for her words will see yourselves, but then again you probably wont.
I personally learned 95% of my visa info in the first 2 months of being on VJ... I just to stay to earn my little heart, then cos it was so funny here... very lively overall nice bunch.
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Jan 14 2007, 12:54 AM)
yallah!
And just the other day I thought you were an advocate for "two sides to every story".
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 13 2007, 09:53 PM)
Hope you stay, and the PMS are childish as you said. THis group can have so much to offer to others that need the help, me included, but we (or I) already know how to fight and argue. I don't see any other group being made fun of so much as this one, I liked Maggie and I think those of you responsible for her words will see yourselves, but then again you probably wont.
And just the other day I thought you were an advocate for "two sides to every story".
I don't think anyone can be responsible for making you leave. You can simply ignore those people who you don't care for and continue to interact with the ones you do care for. Needless to say, I don't get along with everyone on this forum but that doesn't stop me from coming here. There is no reason to let other intimidate you and there is no reason to take everyone so personally because as the OP said, this is only the internet.
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
Always two sides one right one wrong
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 01:00 AM)
Always two sides one right one wrong
Now you're just trying to be funny, right?
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 14 2007, 01:00 AM)
I don't think anyone can be responsible for making you leave. You can simply ignore those people who you don't care for and continue to interact with the ones you do care for. Needless to say, I don't get along with everyone on this forum but that doesn't stop me from coming here. There is no reason to let other intimidate you and there is no reason to take everyone so personally because as the OP said, this is only the internet.
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
Not to mention I find it strange that the discussions, arguments, debates, fights that go on here end up in people thinking the other is now their sworn enemy. There are few things less immature than that.
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 13 2007, 10:04 PM)
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 01:00 AM)
Always two sides one right one wrong
Now you're just trying to be funny, right?
I sure as hell hope so!
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 13 2007, 10:04 PM)
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 01:00 AM)
Always two sides one right one wrong
Now you're just trying to be funny, right?
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 14 2007, 01:00 AM)
I don't think anyone can be responsible for making you leave. You can simply ignore those people who you don't care for and continue to interact with the ones you do care for. Needless to say, I don't get along with everyone on this forum but that doesn't stop me from coming here. There is no reason to let other intimidate you and there is no reason to take everyone so personally because as the OP said, this is only the internet.
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
Not to mention I find it strange that the discussions, arguments, debates, fights that go on here end up in people thinking the other is now their sworn enemy. There are few things less immature than that.
We need a new slogan:
"What happens in VJ, stays in VJ..."
QUOTE(peezey @ Jan 13 2007, 10:04 PM)
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 01:00 AM)
Always two sides one right one wrong
Now you're just trying to be funny, right?
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 14 2007, 01:00 AM)
I don't think anyone can be responsible for making you leave. You can simply ignore those people who you don't care for and continue to interact with the ones you do care for. Needless to say, I don't get along with everyone on this forum but that doesn't stop me from coming here. There is no reason to let other intimidate you and there is no reason to take everyone so personally because as the OP said, this is only the internet.
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
Not to mention I find it strange that the discussions, arguments, debates, fights that go on here end up in people thinking the other is now their sworn enemy. There are few things less immature than that.
I agree. Every now and then someone comes along with a long dramaitic "goodbye". This one is a real doozie.
Cant edit it; Can't delete it. Move on to the next thread.
QUOTE(maggieNomar @ Jan 13 2007, 10:22 PM)
Cant edit it; Can't delete it. Move on to the next thread.
but this one is so funny!
It's been awhile since we've had one of these! 
what the heck happened?
The usual.
Anyone notice the ones laughing the loudest are probably the most guilty?
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 12:59 AM)
Anyone notice the ones laughing the loudest are probably the most guilty?
i'm sincere in asking.... wtf happened??? did i miss something really big?
You must not get the PMs. Good for you!
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 01:59 AM)
Anyone notice the ones laughing the loudest are probably the most guilty?
Guilty of what? I notice that you seem to be looking for a fight.
If speaking up for a friend is looking for a fight then my point is proved, why is it if i speak my opinion i get downed, some having guilty feelings about now?
Maggie you just have to ignore the retards. 
This is one reason I don't come to VJ much. A few of my friends and I were always getting PMS from the "I'm so innocent and I don't know why you are picking on me" people. Also received a few "why are you wanting to marry a terrorist!" Of course it pissed me off when these individuals and their little buddies would gang up, but after a while I actually laughed! The few on here that I do speak with even contemplated on posting all of their idiotic PMS, but one gal reminded me that then we would be at their level. I see this kind of behavior with kids! Then I had to think maybe these people are just unhappy in their own lives somehow. A few of the people that sent those nasty PMS do not even come to VJ or have had their account disabled, {did that give anyone any hints?} others are still sending the "I'm so perfect and innocent" PMS. Karma is a B#### and will come back and get them. What goes around comes around. I don't wish ill luck on anyone, but I swear if these people act like they do on VJ around their husbands they will be posting in another forum one day. I do still find VJ to be helping when I have a question regarding something. VJ is a playground, some will help you and some will diss ya. Ignore them, and really put them on ignore on VJ, that did wonders for me! Hope you decide to stay around.
This is one reason I don't come to VJ much. A few of my friends and I were always getting PMS from the "I'm so innocent and I don't know why you are picking on me" people. Also received a few "why are you wanting to marry a terrorist!" Of course it pissed me off when these individuals and their little buddies would gang up, but after a while I actually laughed! The few on here that I do speak with even contemplated on posting all of their idiotic PMS, but one gal reminded me that then we would be at their level. I see this kind of behavior with kids! Then I had to think maybe these people are just unhappy in their own lives somehow. A few of the people that sent those nasty PMS do not even come to VJ or have had their account disabled, {did that give anyone any hints?} others are still sending the "I'm so perfect and innocent" PMS. Karma is a B#### and will come back and get them. What goes around comes around. I don't wish ill luck on anyone, but I swear if these people act like they do on VJ around their husbands they will be posting in another forum one day. I do still find VJ to be helping when I have a question regarding something. VJ is a playground, some will help you and some will diss ya. Ignore them, and really put them on ignore on VJ, that did wonders for me! Hope you decide to stay around.
QUOTE(crazyinEgypt @ Jan 14 2007, 08:39 AM)
Maggie you just have to ignore the retards. This is one reason I don't come to VJ much. A few of my friends and I were always getting PMS from the "I'm so innocent and I don't know why you are picking on me" people. Also received a few "why are you wanting to marry a terrorist!" Of course it pissed me off when these individuals and their little buddies would gang up, but after a while I actually laughed! The few on here that I do speak with even contemplated on posting all of their idiotic PMS, but one gal reminded me that then we would be at their level. I see this kind of behavior with kids! Then I had to think maybe these people are just unhappy in their own lives somehow. A few of the people that sent those nasty PMS do not even come to VJ or have had their account disabled, {did that give anyone any hints?} others are still sending the "I'm so perfect and innocent" PMS. Karma is a B#### and will come back and get them. What goes around comes around. I don't wish ill luck on anyone, but I swear if these people act like they do on VJ around their husbands they will be posting in another forum one day. I do still find VJ to be helping when I have a question regarding something. VJ is a playground, some will help you and some will diss ya. Ignore them, and really put them on ignore on VJ, that did wonders for me! Hope you decide to stay around.
This is one reason I don't come to VJ much. A few of my friends and I were always getting PMS from the "I'm so innocent and I don't know why you are picking on me" people. Also received a few "why are you wanting to marry a terrorist!" Of course it pissed me off when these individuals and their little buddies would gang up, but after a while I actually laughed! The few on here that I do speak with even contemplated on posting all of their idiotic PMS, but one gal reminded me that then we would be at their level. I see this kind of behavior with kids! Then I had to think maybe these people are just unhappy in their own lives somehow. A few of the people that sent those nasty PMS do not even come to VJ or have had their account disabled, {did that give anyone any hints?} others are still sending the "I'm so perfect and innocent" PMS. Karma is a B#### and will come back and get them. What goes around comes around. I don't wish ill luck on anyone, but I swear if these people act like they do on VJ around their husbands they will be posting in another forum one day. I do still find VJ to be helping when I have a question regarding something. VJ is a playground, some will help you and some will diss ya. Ignore them, and really put them on ignore on VJ, that did wonders for me! Hope you decide to stay around.I agree with that, well said !
Maggie knows whats best for herself. At least she was never dripping with comtempt or demanding explanations in arrogant tones , or possessing a raw, stripped down, gut wrenching overdose of ' who-do-you-think-you-are ' attitude. Mercy should have a greater impact than cruelty.
Oh my.
Maggie -- I hope you feel better soon. I want you to know that I very much appreciate your unwavering kindness and respect and tireless support for all the others here. No matter who they are or what viewpoints they hold, you treat everyone with courtesy, and you deserve the same in return.
I have to say -- I've never gotten (or ever sent !) any PMs like that -- telling me who to talk to and who not to, or threatening me or calling me names. Wow. Who the hell would write you to say you're marrying a terrorist ?!?!?!?!? Jeez -- some people on this site are just Beyond Belief.
Anyway, take a break if you need to -- I understand. But don't stay gone too long -- we've got a bigggg party planned for when Omar gets that bright shiny visa in hand. And the guest of honor MUST attend to do the victory dance !
-MK
Maggie -- I hope you feel better soon. I want you to know that I very much appreciate your unwavering kindness and respect and tireless support for all the others here. No matter who they are or what viewpoints they hold, you treat everyone with courtesy, and you deserve the same in return.
I have to say -- I've never gotten (or ever sent !) any PMs like that -- telling me who to talk to and who not to, or threatening me or calling me names. Wow. Who the hell would write you to say you're marrying a terrorist ?!?!?!?!? Jeez -- some people on this site are just Beyond Belief.
Anyway, take a break if you need to -- I understand. But don't stay gone too long -- we've got a bigggg party planned for when Omar gets that bright shiny visa in hand. And the guest of honor MUST attend to do the victory dance !
-MK
QUOTE(maggieNomar @ Jan 13 2007, 09:29 PM)
I wanted those same people to give me dancing yellow guys when my turn came.
i know im not "those same people", but for what its worth:
What happened?
QUOTE(Private @ Jan 14 2007, 10:44 AM)
What happened?
In my 3+ years here I have seen many come and go. I have had highs and lows and have seen every emotion imaginable. We bicker like family and we support each other like family.
As nasty as people like to think the mena crowd is, I will attest that when the chips are down and 'one of our own' is needing help, we band together.
Hate to see someone announce they are leaving.
Jackie
As nasty as people like to think the mena crowd is, I will attest that when the chips are down and 'one of our own' is needing help, we band together.
Hate to see someone announce they are leaving.
Jackie
I think this illustrates exactly what she was talking about. Someone is obviously hurt and all the fun, games, cute little pictures and catty come-backs start up. I'm sorry you feel the need to leave, but I also understand it well. The 3rd grade B.S. on here IS difficult to take when you're trying to handle the roller coaster that this ride can be. If you do decide to remain, the ignore feature works very well on those who refuse to take a real emotion seriously. I wish you all the best.
QUOTE(jmagayreh @ Jan 14 2007, 10:04 AM)
In my 3+ years here I have seen many come and go. I have had highs and lows and have seen every emotion imaginable. We bicker like family and we support each other like family.
As nasty as people like to think the mena crowd is, I will attest that when the chips are down and 'one of our own' is needing help, we band together.
Hate to see someone announce they are leaving.
Jackie
As nasty as people like to think the mena crowd is, I will attest that when the chips are down and 'one of our own' is needing help, we band together.
Hate to see someone announce they are leaving.
Jackie
I've been trying to find the right words all morning to post here, but I couldn't have said it any better myself, Jackie. I never really imagined that some of the women in MENA could become more than just a random person on the internet. I have made some truly great friends who have had my back through good times and bad. I think that's what makes MENA so special.
QUOTE(maggieNomar @ Jan 13 2007, 11:29 PM)
This will most likely be my final post in MENA, if not in VJ all together. I have learned a lot from you guys, but the time has come for me to depart. While I am sad to go, I cannot participate in this 3rd grade BS anymore.
I thought this site was to help others get through what can be an incredibly hard process. Especially when dealing with SOs in the middle east. Those who have been through it know how hard it is to wait and wait and maybe even be denied for no good reason and then fight like hell to win. But you know when you are with people who have been there, they will guide you, help you, cry with you, whatever it takes to get you through to success. I have watched others get their visas, reunite and marry, and I cheered every one of them on, even though it hurt because they interviewed after us. I wanted those same people to give me dancing yellow guys when my turn came. I went through hard times, and there were people who were there for me every step, people I thought were real friends. Sucker that I am. The saddest part for me is that the people I thought were my friends were the ones that hurt me the most in the end.
I rarely if ever got caught up in the drama of others. It seems that although I have tried to be friendly/nice towards everyone, that is not allowed here. I did not read in the TOS that there were police here who will PM you when you talk to someone they do not like. It's the freaking internet. We will never meet 95% of the people we see on here. So why the big deal??? Why is it you have to choose what you can and cannot reply to because Susie won't talk to you if you do? I tried to simply ignore the PMs, which came from more than one person, but no, they just kept coming. This process is hard as hell at times. And to have to deal with this kind of drama is flat out ridiculous. So for that reason, this forum no longer serves the purpose I came here for.
I wish those of you who are together all the happiness in the world, and those of you still waiting a speedy visa in hand celebration.
I thought this site was to help others get through what can be an incredibly hard process. Especially when dealing with SOs in the middle east. Those who have been through it know how hard it is to wait and wait and maybe even be denied for no good reason and then fight like hell to win. But you know when you are with people who have been there, they will guide you, help you, cry with you, whatever it takes to get you through to success. I have watched others get their visas, reunite and marry, and I cheered every one of them on, even though it hurt because they interviewed after us. I wanted those same people to give me dancing yellow guys when my turn came. I went through hard times, and there were people who were there for me every step, people I thought were real friends. Sucker that I am. The saddest part for me is that the people I thought were my friends were the ones that hurt me the most in the end.
I rarely if ever got caught up in the drama of others. It seems that although I have tried to be friendly/nice towards everyone, that is not allowed here. I did not read in the TOS that there were police here who will PM you when you talk to someone they do not like. It's the freaking internet. We will never meet 95% of the people we see on here. So why the big deal??? Why is it you have to choose what you can and cannot reply to because Susie won't talk to you if you do? I tried to simply ignore the PMs, which came from more than one person, but no, they just kept coming. This process is hard as hell at times. And to have to deal with this kind of drama is flat out ridiculous. So for that reason, this forum no longer serves the purpose I came here for.
I wish those of you who are together all the happiness in the world, and those of you still waiting a speedy visa in hand celebration.
I understand what you mean. It seems as though you can not post anything without someone truning it into a scandao of some sort. I will hate to see you go. you are a very nice lady. take some time away. But come back. Overall I am sure you got many needed questions answered. Good luck with Omar arriving here. i am fond of that name especially because i have an Omar too.
QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Jan 14 2007, 09:11 AM)
QUOTE(jmagayreh @ Jan 14 2007, 10:04 AM)
In my 3+ years here I have seen many come and go. I have had highs and lows and have seen every emotion imaginable. We bicker like family and we support each other like family.
As nasty as people like to think the mena crowd is, I will attest that when the chips are down and 'one of our own' is needing help, we band together.
Hate to see someone announce they are leaving.
Jackie
As nasty as people like to think the mena crowd is, I will attest that when the chips are down and 'one of our own' is needing help, we band together.
Hate to see someone announce they are leaving.
Jackie
I've been trying to find the right words all morning to post here, but I couldn't have said it any better myself, Jackie. I never really imagined that some of the women in MENA could become more than just a random person on the internet. I have made some truly great friends who have had my back through good times and bad. I think that's what makes MENA so special.
well said, both of you!
and I agree- as much as I sometimes let some people get to me, I feel I've made some really good (and true) friends here.
QUOTE(Henia @ Jan 13 2007, 11:57 PM)
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 12:53 AM)
Hope you stay, and the PMS are childish as you said. THis group can have so much to offer to others that need the help, me included, but we (or I) already know how to fight and argue. I don't see any other group being made fun of so much as this one, I liked Maggie and I think those of you responsible for her words will see yourselves, but then again you probably wont.
I personally learned 95% of my visa info in the first 2 months of being on VJ... I just to stay to earn my little heart, then cos it was so funny here... very lively overall nice bunch.
What little heart????
QUOTE(Hannaouy @ Jan 14 2007, 09:24 AM)
QUOTE(Henia @ Jan 13 2007, 11:57 PM)
I personally learned 95% of my visa info in the first 2 months of being on VJ... I just to stay to earn my little heart, then cos it was so funny here... very lively overall nice bunch.
What little heart????
under your title.... little blue boxes eventually get hearts in them if you post enough!
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Jan 14 2007, 12:00 AM)
I don't think anyone can be responsible for making you leave. You can simply ignore those people who you don't care for and continue to interact with the ones you do care for. Needless to say, I don't get along with everyone on this forum but that doesn't stop me from coming here. There is no reason to let other intimidate you and there is no reason to take everyone so personally because as the OP said, this is only the internet.
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
I also agree with Peezey here and have always felt that long dramatic posts of saying goodbye are just as childish as the fights that may lead up to it. Everyone seems to have a full understanding that this forum is dysfunctional for lack of a better word and many don't have an issue following along fights between other people and often chiming in. Just get over it!
A shame that all the pettiness goes on. Why can't people simply post something they are curious to know about and other people respond in a polite, courteous, aND TACTFUL MANNER????
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 12:00 AM)
Always two sides one right one wrong
TWO SIDES AND THEN THE TRUTH!!
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jan 14 2007, 12:59 AM)
Anyone notice the ones laughing the loudest are probably the most guilty?
And the ones that are suppose to be the kindest, lol
QUOTE(crazyinEgypt @ Jan 14 2007, 07:39 AM)
Maggie you just have to ignore the retards. This is one reason I don't come to VJ much. A few of my friends and I were always getting PMS from the "I'm so innocent and I don't know why you are picking on me" people. Also received a few "why are you wanting to marry a terrorist!" Of course it pissed me off when these individuals and their little buddies would gang up, but after a while I actually laughed! The few on here that I do speak with even contemplated on posting all of their idiotic PMS, but one gal reminded me that then we would be at their level. I see this kind of behavior with kids! Then I had to think maybe these people are just unhappy in their own lives somehow. A few of the people that sent those nasty PMS do not even come to VJ or have had their account disabled, {did that give anyone any hints?} others are still sending the "I'm so perfect and innocent" PMS. Karma is a B#### and will come back and get them. What goes around comes around. I don't wish ill luck on anyone, but I swear if these people act like they do on VJ around their husbands they will be posting in another forum one day. I do still find VJ to be helping when I have a question regarding something. VJ is a playground, some will help you and some will diss ya. Ignore them, and really put them on ignore on VJ, that did wonders for me! Hope you decide to stay around.
This is one reason I don't come to VJ much. A few of my friends and I were always getting PMS from the "I'm so innocent and I don't know why you are picking on me" people. Also received a few "why are you wanting to marry a terrorist!" Of course it pissed me off when these individuals and their little buddies would gang up, but after a while I actually laughed! The few on here that I do speak with even contemplated on posting all of their idiotic PMS, but one gal reminded me that then we would be at their level. I see this kind of behavior with kids! Then I had to think maybe these people are just unhappy in their own lives somehow. A few of the people that sent those nasty PMS do not even come to VJ or have had their account disabled, {did that give anyone any hints?} others are still sending the "I'm so perfect and innocent" PMS. Karma is a B#### and will come back and get them. What goes around comes around. I don't wish ill luck on anyone, but I swear if these people act like they do on VJ around their husbands they will be posting in another forum one day. I do still find VJ to be helping when I have a question regarding something. VJ is a playground, some will help you and some will diss ya. Ignore them, and really put them on ignore on VJ, that did wonders for me! Hope you decide to stay around.Kudos!!! Great post!!!
QUOTE(noura @ Jan 14 2007, 09:26 AM)
QUOTE(Hannaouy @ Jan 14 2007, 09:24 AM)
QUOTE(Henia @ Jan 13 2007, 11:57 PM)
I personally learned 95% of my visa info in the first 2 months of being on VJ... I just to stay to earn my little heart, then cos it was so funny here... very lively overall nice bunch.
What little heart????
under your title.... little blue boxes eventually get hearts in them if you post enough!
Thanks
Why can't we all just get along? Aren't we here for the same reason? I know that not everyone will get along but is there really a need to be petty? For what it's worth, I hope you stay.
QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Jan 14 2007, 10:11 AM)
QUOTE(jmagayreh @ Jan 14 2007, 10:04 AM)
In my 3+ years here I have seen many come and go. I have had highs and lows and have seen every emotion imaginable. We bicker like family and we support each other like family.
As nasty as people like to think the mena crowd is, I will attest that when the chips are down and 'one of our own' is needing help, we band together.
Hate to see someone announce they are leaving.
Jackie
As nasty as people like to think the mena crowd is, I will attest that when the chips are down and 'one of our own' is needing help, we band together.
Hate to see someone announce they are leaving.
Jackie
I've been trying to find the right words all morning to post here, but I couldn't have said it any better myself, Jackie. I never really imagined that some of the women in MENA could become more than just a random person on the internet. I have made some truly great friends who have had my back through good times and bad. I think that's what makes MENA so special.
Will we ever meet most of the people we meet on the web, not just MENA or even VJ? Most likely not. It doesn't mean they aren't friends.
Behind those 'words on a screen' are real people. A concept that shouldn't be lost on us, since a lot of us met our husbands/wives that way.
I'm going to choose my words very carefully here, so I hope everyone here can appreciate the fact that I'm not trying to offend anyone...BUT...I think threads like this perpetrate the same drama they are complaining about. And everyone comes in and picks a line in the sand so others can feel free to complain very passive aggressively with sweeping generalizations. I don't think it's right.
We are all adults here...why can't things be sorted out in a rational, reasonable manner? Do any of you ever wonder why there's so much drama and personal upset in this forum? I'd dare say its substantially larger here than any other place on VJ. From a non MENA perspective, it seems like it's a constant pizzing contest in here over who knows what, who's more qualified to speak about things, people who are 2 seconds from getting deeply offended, etc. It's ironic that this forum is indicative of what's actually going on in the MENA region (of course to a lesser degree, but you know what I mean).
Take it fwiw, and I'm sure someone will come tell me why I'm wrong, why I offended someone, or why I'm not 'qualified' to speak. But at the end of the day, we're all adults here....so maybe find some common ground, or figure out a way that so-and-so doesn't get a rise out of you. We all at this site share a bond, and you women in here have a deeper one. No one knows what it's like to be you, but another MENA woman would most prolly have the closest idea. So you can use this resource of being on common ground, and use it for your benefit, or you can continue this ridiculous pizzing match that is used for fodder and amusement to everyone here.
We are all adults here...why can't things be sorted out in a rational, reasonable manner? Do any of you ever wonder why there's so much drama and personal upset in this forum? I'd dare say its substantially larger here than any other place on VJ. From a non MENA perspective, it seems like it's a constant pizzing contest in here over who knows what, who's more qualified to speak about things, people who are 2 seconds from getting deeply offended, etc. It's ironic that this forum is indicative of what's actually going on in the MENA region (of course to a lesser degree, but you know what I mean).
Take it fwiw, and I'm sure someone will come tell me why I'm wrong, why I offended someone, or why I'm not 'qualified' to speak. But at the end of the day, we're all adults here....so maybe find some common ground, or figure out a way that so-and-so doesn't get a rise out of you. We all at this site share a bond, and you women in here have a deeper one. No one knows what it's like to be you, but another MENA woman would most prolly have the closest idea. So you can use this resource of being on common ground, and use it for your benefit, or you can continue this ridiculous pizzing match that is used for fodder and amusement to everyone here.
QUOTE(Green-eyed girl @ Jan 14 2007, 01:06 AM)
You must not get the PMs. Good for you!
I don't get the PMs either . . . must not be posting enought!
QUOTE(maggieNomar @ Jan 14 2007, 12:29 AM)
This will most likely be my final post in MENA, if not in VJ all together. I have learned a lot from you guys, but the time has come for me to depart. While I am sad to go, I cannot participate in this 3rd grade BS anymore.
I thought this site was to help others get through what can be an incredibly hard process. Especially when dealing with SOs in the middle east. Those who have been through it know how hard it is to wait and wait and maybe even be denied for no good reason and then fight like hell to win. But you know when you are with people who have been there, they will guide you, help you, cry with you, whatever it takes to get you through to success. I have watched others get their visas, reunite and marry, and I cheered every one of them on, even though it hurt because they interviewed after us. I wanted those same people to give me dancing yellow guys when my turn came. I went through hard times, and there were people who were there for me every step, people I thought were real friends. Sucker that I am. The saddest part for me is that the people I thought were my friends were the ones that hurt me the most in the end.
I rarely if ever got caught up in the drama of others. It seems that although I have tried to be friendly/nice towards everyone, that is not allowed here. I did not read in the TOS that there were police here who will PM you when you talk to someone they do not like. It's the freaking internet. We will never meet 95% of the people we see on here. So why the big deal??? Why is it you have to choose what you can and cannot reply to because Susie won't talk to you if you do? I tried to simply ignore the PMs, which came from more than one person, but no, they just kept coming. This process is hard as hell at times. And to have to deal with this kind of drama is flat out ridiculous. So for that reason, this forum no longer serves the purpose I came here for.
I wish those of you who are together all the happiness in the world, and those of you still waiting a speedy visa in hand celebration.
I thought this site was to help others get through what can be an incredibly hard process. Especially when dealing with SOs in the middle east. Those who have been through it know how hard it is to wait and wait and maybe even be denied for no good reason and then fight like hell to win. But you know when you are with people who have been there, they will guide you, help you, cry with you, whatever it takes to get you through to success. I have watched others get their visas, reunite and marry, and I cheered every one of them on, even though it hurt because they interviewed after us. I wanted those same people to give me dancing yellow guys when my turn came. I went through hard times, and there were people who were there for me every step, people I thought were real friends. Sucker that I am. The saddest part for me is that the people I thought were my friends were the ones that hurt me the most in the end.
I rarely if ever got caught up in the drama of others. It seems that although I have tried to be friendly/nice towards everyone, that is not allowed here. I did not read in the TOS that there were police here who will PM you when you talk to someone they do not like. It's the freaking internet. We will never meet 95% of the people we see on here. So why the big deal??? Why is it you have to choose what you can and cannot reply to because Susie won't talk to you if you do? I tried to simply ignore the PMs, which came from more than one person, but no, they just kept coming. This process is hard as hell at times. And to have to deal with this kind of drama is flat out ridiculous. So for that reason, this forum no longer serves the purpose I came here for.
I wish those of you who are together all the happiness in the world, and those of you still waiting a speedy visa in hand celebration.
I think if you had ever considered them friends, despite feeling hurt, you would have addressed them privately, instead of bringing it to a public forum where it will obviously cause the drama you say is ridiculous.
I have made real friends on the internet and have on occasion disagreed with them. I never would have taken back to the public forum where we originally met for everyone to jump in on. I notice the friends you have claimed hurt you have chosen not to address the issues on the board despite you bringing it here, so it seems at very least they are extending you a level of courtesy and privacy that you did not extend to them.
Also, I want to add something . . . not really joining in the "pizzing" contest . . . part of the reason that I stopped posting before was because someone told me the "karma was going to get me . . . what goes around comes around" C***, because I was posting about my experiences going thru Egypt and was happy that we got the visa last year . . . they accused me of rubbing it in because they were so unhappy and stressed out about their visa experience . . . all that waiting you know. Well, I had already been married for over a year by the time the visa was granted and had been on VJ for much longer . . . and WAITING much longer at the time.
So was my car wreck karma???? don't think so . . . S*** happens! won't be the first time, won't be the last time. Like I said in another thread . . .lost that baggage at the airport . . . more than once . . . it can be replaced. . . . and I get to upgrade when I do (I LUV upgrade to first class which is what I got coming and going from Columbus last week).
Am I unhappy and negative and stressed out?? Sure . . . freely admit it . . . have been all of these at various times most of my life due to other things that are NYB, but I have managed to survive and survive quite well. AND I have many moments of true genuine happiness. I do manage to make my husband laugh many times and he says that I am a very strong woman, which he likes (I hope that he really appreciates that once he gets here . . . but I dont always feel strong ).
There is no contest here or race to get the visa before anyone else . . . .and talking about ppl being unhappy and deserving it, karma getting them, etc. is NOT what I care to hear about . . . even if that is reality . .. and believe me, I am more realistic than many ppl I know while trying to hang onto some shreds of optimism.
Sorry to contribute to this thread, but I finally decided to give my opinion . . . which I try hard not to do as I try to avoid the train wrecks.
CB2
So was my car wreck karma???? don't think so . . . S*** happens! won't be the first time, won't be the last time. Like I said in another thread . . .lost that baggage at the airport . . . more than once . . . it can be replaced. . . . and I get to upgrade when I do (I LUV upgrade to first class which is what I got coming and going from Columbus last week).
Am I unhappy and negative and stressed out?? Sure . . . freely admit it . . . have been all of these at various times most of my life due to other things that are NYB, but I have managed to survive and survive quite well. AND I have many moments of true genuine happiness. I do manage to make my husband laugh many times and he says that I am a very strong woman, which he likes (I hope that he really appreciates that once he gets here . . . but I dont always feel strong ).
There is no contest here or race to get the visa before anyone else . . . .and talking about ppl being unhappy and deserving it, karma getting them, etc. is NOT what I care to hear about . . . even if that is reality . .. and believe me, I am more realistic than many ppl I know while trying to hang onto some shreds of optimism.
Sorry to contribute to this thread, but I finally decided to give my opinion . . . which I try hard not to do as I try to avoid the train wrecks.
CB2
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