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I thought I was done with all this but a new problem has arisen. I was getting together with my soon-to-be ex wife about how we're going to file taxes. She produced not one but three w-2's. I think you see where this is going. Obviously I'm going to be filing alone this year but... I'm about to submit the final divorce decree to wherever you send these things at the INS whenever it's done. The divorce was already supposed to be done by now but you know how that goes. I was going to write a letter stating that I would not be sponsoring her because we're getting divorced. I was already getting a little ancy because it's coming up on her 2 year anniversary (February) and the divorce isn't done yet and I need to get it to them. After all the deception I guess it should be no surprise she did this. So should I just add this somewhere in the letter I send to the INS with my final decree? I'm going Monday to get some legal advice but I'd love to hear what anyone has to say about this or any advice you might have.
Did she have three different jobs therefore one W2 from each employer? Or three different social security numbers? Was she working without authorization? I'm just not sure USCIS would care all that much unless there was invalid work. Maybe the IRS would care . . .
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 13 2007, 07:34 PM) 
Did she have three different jobs therefore one W2 from each employer? Or three different social security numbers? Was she working without authorization? I'm just not sure USCIS would care all that much unless there was invalid work. Maybe the IRS would care . . .
I guess I was being too ambiguous. She has a social security number and is legal to work here. Some other friends of hers did not. So she gave them her id and social and they obtained employment with it.
QUOTE(Meanderthal @ Jan 13 2007, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 13 2007, 07:34 PM)
Did she have three different jobs therefore one W2 from each employer? Or three different social security numbers? Was she working without authorization? I'm just not sure USCIS would care all that much unless there was invalid work. Maybe the IRS would care . . .
I guess I was being too ambiguous. She has a social security number and is legal to work here. Some other friends of hers did not. So she gave them her id and social and they obtained employment with it.
Hmmm - wonder if she got a cut of their wages. . . .
Strange - the employers didn't notice that the friend's face did not match the picture on the ID. And if they checked the social (which most don't) it would show as valid. So they are in the clear.
I would call the Social Security Administration and ask them how to go about reporting it in general to them, and then in reference to immigration - maybe they can guide you.
I was talking to a friend who is dating an undocumented alien, and that is how they get jobs, open bank accounts, etc.
I believe that is a common practice, it is absolutely not legal (just to avoid getting trashed here).
I was outraged when she mentioned this, because coming here legally it was quite tough to get all these things done (even with a legal SSN).
I think reporting it would be the best course of action. Whom to?? I dont know... IRS? Well, they are getting the money (do they really care?). SS Administration? I really dont know... (I'd report it to both).
It sucks... because frankly, I dont know how someone could be so dumb to do something like that when her own immigration status is pending.
I believe that is a common practice, it is absolutely not legal (just to avoid getting trashed here).
I was outraged when she mentioned this, because coming here legally it was quite tough to get all these things done (even with a legal SSN).
I think reporting it would be the best course of action. Whom to?? I dont know... IRS? Well, they are getting the money (do they really care?). SS Administration? I really dont know... (I'd report it to both).
It sucks... because frankly, I dont know how someone could be so dumb to do something like that when her own immigration status is pending.
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It sucks... because frankly, I dont know how someone could be so dumb to do something like that when her own immigration status is pending.
I agree with that. But I don't think many undocumented people actually find someone to give them their social and ID. In bigger cities anyway, there is a huge business creating fake social security cards with made up numbers so I think that's a bit more common (at least until the SSN implements a system so employers can verify them!)
I don't think the IRS would care b/c they are getting their money. But I do think contacting the SSA is the first call to make to see how they would advise. For USCIS, you can simply provide the information on what she is doing - adding the names of the people using her card would certainly help.
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 13 2007, 08:23 PM)
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It sucks... because frankly, I dont know how someone could be so dumb to do something like that when her own immigration status is pending.
I agree with that. But I don't think many undocumented people actually find someone to give them their social and ID. In bigger cities anyway, there is a huge business creating fake social security cards with made up numbers so I think that's a bit more common (at least until the SSN implements a system so employers can verify them!)
I don't think the IRS would care b/c they are getting their money. But I do think contacting the SSA is the first call to make to see how they would advise. For USCIS, you can simply provide the information on what she is doing - adding the names of the people using her card would certainly help.
Thanks so much I will look into that! Do you think I need to send anything to USCIS to let them know 'divorce in progress' since the 2 year is coming up in February?
It all depends on what you want to do about this.
I think I read that you wanted her to go along and lift conditions (not on this post though). Probably you can go along and write a letter to the USCIS, simply stating that you are divorced or that you are going thru the proceedings. At this point, I believe she can lift conditions on her own (since the marriage was entered with bona fide intentions). However, I would be worried about the Affidavit of Support, and the kind of documentation she is going to turn in as support for lifting her conditions.
I dont know what to advise, since I dont know what kind of attention a letter to the USCIS would get in a case like this.
I agree with that. But I don't think many undocumented people actually find someone to give them their social and ID. In bigger cities anyway, there is a huge business creating fake social security cards with made up numbers so I think that's a bit more common (at least until the SSN implements a system so employers can verify them!)
I don't think the IRS would care b/c they are getting their money. But I do think contacting the SSA is the first call to make to see how they would advise. For USCIS, you can simply provide the information on what she is doing - adding the names of the people using her card would certainly help.
Thanks so much I will look into that! Do you think I need to send anything to USCIS to let them know 'divorce in progress' since the 2 year is coming up in February?
I think I read that you wanted her to go along and lift conditions (not on this post though). Probably you can go along and write a letter to the USCIS, simply stating that you are divorced or that you are going thru the proceedings. At this point, I believe she can lift conditions on her own (since the marriage was entered with bona fide intentions). However, I would be worried about the Affidavit of Support, and the kind of documentation she is going to turn in as support for lifting her conditions.
I dont know what to advise, since I dont know what kind of attention a letter to the USCIS would get in a case like this.
QUOTE(Meanderthal @ Jan 13 2007, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 13 2007, 08:23 PM)
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It sucks... because frankly, I dont know how someone could be so dumb to do something like that when her own immigration status is pending.
I agree with that. But I don't think many undocumented people actually find someone to give them their social and ID. In bigger cities anyway, there is a huge business creating fake social security cards with made up numbers so I think that's a bit more common (at least until the SSN implements a system so employers can verify them!)
I don't think the IRS would care b/c they are getting their money. But I do think contacting the SSA is the first call to make to see how they would advise. For USCIS, you can simply provide the information on what she is doing - adding the names of the people using her card would certainly help.
Thanks so much I will look into that! Do you think I need to send anything to USCIS to let them know 'divorce in progress' since the 2 year is coming up in February?
You said you will not be sponsoring her, well you did, she would not have her GC otherwise.
The Divorce has no impact on that, you are still on the hook and will be for some time, potentially forever.
As far as USCIS is concerned, a divorce prior to the 2 year period will allow her to file for removal of Conditions immediately. Something I would have thought she would be more interested in than you.
The Divorce has no impact on that, you are still on the hook and will be for some time, potentially forever.
As far as USCIS is concerned, a divorce prior to the 2 year period will allow her to file for removal of Conditions immediately. Something I would have thought she would be more interested in than you.
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Buying or Selling Social Security Card or SSA Information
If you become aware of any of the situations below, please contact the OIG Fraud Hotline:
Buying and selling of counterfeit or legitimate Social Security cards
Misuse of a Social Security number by someone to obtain Social Security benefits
Please be prepared to provide as much of the following information as possible:
Who is buying/selling the cards? Include as much identifying information as possible; for example name, address, phone numbers, date of birth, Social Security number (both actual and one used illegitimately).
Where are the cards being sold?
How would someone contact the individual to purchase a counterfeit card?
How much do the cards cost? How is payment made?
If you become aware of any of the situations below, please contact the OIG Fraud Hotline:
Buying and selling of counterfeit or legitimate Social Security cards
Misuse of a Social Security number by someone to obtain Social Security benefits
Please be prepared to provide as much of the following information as possible:
Who is buying/selling the cards? Include as much identifying information as possible; for example name, address, phone numbers, date of birth, Social Security number (both actual and one used illegitimately).
Where are the cards being sold?
How would someone contact the individual to purchase a counterfeit card?
How much do the cards cost? How is payment made?
Having been in a situation where I am legally bound to report, I know that you need to report the illegal use of SSN to ICE. It is a common practice among illegals to use a legal SSN to get a job.
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