now the apartment we stayed at in toronto is suing us apparently, we had to give 2 months notice when we were going to leave ... but when you're a ) deported, and b ) unexpectedly get a visa, how in the hell are you supposed to give that kind of notice? why would the freaking landlord not say anything about it when we told her we were leaving?

dammit dammit dammit!!

fcuk them

You were deported?

I assume that they do have that in writing, about the two months notice.....?

If they don't, tell them to bring it on. If they do, you may be able to offer them payment to cover for the time the apartment was unrented until the end of your contract, pro-rata'd monthly. It's not an ideal solution financially for you, but it may be a lot quicker and cheaper than being sued.

i was "asked to leave" as the last step before they deported me. but yes. it was me. it's really embarrassing to tell people i was kicked out of canada. that's ok ... they'll never see me again.

So how can they even sue you if you're not there?

Hey, it's not your fault you can't go back to Canada to defend yourself

that's what i'm thinking!! i'm honestly not sure what they can actually do to me if i ignore them completely ... they can't cross the border with that kind of stuff, can they?

Since you've both left the country, I'd be inclined to think your landlord is SOL. How do you even know about this though? Did you provide a forwarding address?

when he got into the US, he had to send the apartment a letter stating that he had left the building -- on the envelope was the new adress, and i suppose he must have put the phone number in, in case they had questions.

oh... that sucks. change your phone number

heh ... we're about to move to a totally different part of the country!! it'll take them a while to track us down. .... seriously.. we'll do it the right way if we can figure out what way that is!

I've had this sort of thing happen to me. Some low-life knows that once you are out-of-state, or out of their area it is easy to sue you or whatever to get some extra money. They know it will cost you more than the supposed debt to travel back and fight it.

They're hoping that you'll just send the money. I'm not sure about the laws in Canada, but in the US, it's easy for anyone to claim you owe money and add that claim to your credit report. You either pay them or get denied credit wherever you apply for the next 7 years.

does credit cross the border??

It's not some low life, in Ontario it is the law that you give 60 days notice when vacating your apartment.



Depending on their collection agency, they might be able to catch up with your husband.

jeez... and for 2 non canadians renting an apartment, that would have been a REALLY nice thing to know when we were signing the contract .... should have been pointed out at least, or told to us when we were leaving. i think this was handled VERY poorly

It should be in your lease or rental contract.

Call the building and talk to them about it and/or call the help #'s in the link I posted about Tenant laws in your other thread.

i will. every time i think about it i get mad again.

credit does not cross the border!

that makes me feel a lot better. **sigh**

yup, that's why I needed a secured credit card when I moved down here. I have heard of some companies checking Canadian credit, but only in a couple circumstances and they specifically requested it. Most companies won't check it even if you beg them!

well tenants have to issue a notice as agreed at the time of lease / rent
i dont know how much it would matter if you dont respond..

credit is only tied to your SSN, so if you didn't have one when you signed the lease, it doesn't follow

*at least that's my interpretation*

But in Canada it's tied to your SIN

I don't know know if 'civil' law is 'less' than criminal law but you would surely be attempting to break the immigration law (if that is indeed a crime which I thought possibly) were you to try to return to Canada having been deported. So you are unable to defend your case - I guess you could write to the magistrate if needs be explaining a. WHY you had to leave (govt request, no chance of giving notice) and b. WHY you can't return (Immigration rules and regs)
But even if the landlord wins his case he can't collect can he? Is Canadian civil law legally collectible as far as fines go in another country?
IMO the circumstances of your departure (what amounts to forced repatriation) would supercede the terms of the rental agreement..
Be intersting if anyone knows for sure

i feel a lot better about all this now ... just looks like the canadian bridge has been burned behind me ... no going back, eh?

apparently, the people suing us are going to contact the US credit place and tell them about this if we don't pay them. what in the bloody hell am i supposed to do?

Call them and set up some kind of payment arrangement? Most places just want to know you're trying to rectify the situation, even if its $10 a month.

that's better than never being able to get an apartment again.

Yep, tis true!!

wow! you are having a truckload of trouble today... sorry to hear about all of that... wishing you luck...

yep. i'm so mad that i feel hot. boycott canada!!!

Seriously, stop with the Canada bashing. It didn't work out for you or your now husband here, but that is not Canada's fault.

Note to self:
Don't post after your going away party, when you're feeling sad about leaving your home & friends and had a few drinks My apologies if it came across as a personal attack. If you need anymore Tenants Rights info, let me know.

I'd look into that more... it's their job to scare you into paying. I'm not sure if they would actually report you to a US credit bureau or if that's an idle threat!

Without an American SS #, I doubt they could report her to an American credit bureau. Do they have your American SS#?

You might want to consult an attorney here as to the matter of jurisdiction. If my thinking is right, the Canadian landlord can sue you in a Canadian court all s/he wants, but if you're not only not in Canada but also legally unable to return, I don't think the court can make you respond. But if I were in your shoes, I would lay out $100 or so for a consult with a competent attorney.

Good luck.

What's your problem? You have something going on with your landlord..sorry to hear it..but let off the bashing about my country...We'll declare a day of national mourning that your never going back...or legally allowed back...

wow..that was harsh

No it doesn't. Even if they get a judgement against you in Canada, there isn't much they can do to enforce it.

If you are renting, you will be asked for address/phone number of a previous landlord, and it would look *really* bad if it comes out that you left your residence without meeting the terms of your lease. Most landlords would automatically deny an application in this case. I'd be careful and try to resolve this.