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*Marilyn*
QUOTE(Kathryn41 @ Jan 9 2007, 07:57 AM) *
Oh yeah, that high fructose corn syrup thing really bugs me - come on, they even put it in half and half cream! Yikes - I spend so much time now reading labels trying to find stuff that doesn't have it - ridiculous. No wonder so many people here are obese (and I have gained 15 pounds since I arrived - not happy about that!) Yeah, I think USPS rocks too - except that you can't get stamps anywhere else except at the post office and the lines are often out the door.


I found you can buy stamps almost anywhere here in the US... even from some bank ATM's....
Krikit
QUOTE(jg_am @ Jan 9 2007, 09:56 PM) *
My shock with Canada post came when I went to mail a large envelope from Ontario to Alberta for my fiancee. $10 for something that would've cost $3 from the States!!! For the next hour I thought "$10?!?!?!?, until I had to say it out loud.

Oh crap. I hope mine doesn't come back with insufficient postage. I just mailed a large envelope to Canada without having it weighed. We've moved to a new city and I haven't found the post office yet. Plus I'm getting tired of feeling like a moron. Everywhere I go and everything I do comes with its own special learning curve. Anyway, I figured, "Twice the size of a regular envelope.... twice the regular postage." and stuck it in my mailbox for pickup. (I looked everywhere for a post box until my husband told me they pick it up at the house. LOL) USPS.... gotta love it.
Velvettt
QUOTE(Galateia @ Jan 9 2007, 08:37 PM) *
I could either laugh or cry over the points made in this topic (My headline would read "Liberal Canadian Atheist Follows Her Man to Texas, massacre photos on pg 2!") and since I'm more tempted to cry, I'll stick with the humorous stuff.

Up here in Waterloo, I feel like a giant tub of lard lumbering past all the slim Asian girls so prevalent at my university. Then I went to Kentucky. In the Walmart parking lot, I had an epiphany; I am slim! Sleek! Slender! I only have a chin and a half!: I am a Seal swimming among the Walruses!

And I'll be in Lubbock. The culture shock may send me over the edge. When he came to see me I took him to Pride in Toronto because it was the most fun thing happening at the time; when I go there I may actually be witness to people making homophobic comments out loud in public without getting collared by the police. My head spins at the thought.

And I forgot to mention: I don't drive. Yikes!


LOL!!!! Hey, that was my headline too, except substitute "pagan" for "atheist". Luckily, I was able to spend one 5 month block down here before I emigrated, so I got most of my anti-organized-religion anger out of the way first. And, gf, you ain't seen nothin' till you've seen the hispanic women down in San Antonio, as far as weight goes. I'd be standing in front of my bathroom mirror, wailing about looking pudgy and then I'd go to the grocery store... Holy cow! Not only did they all weigh more than me, they all wore their clothes AT LEAST one size too small so there were rolls and rolls of fat hanging over the waistbands. The WASPy types all have streaked blonde ponytails and designer clothes and the hispanic ones all wear skin-tight Walmart stuff that shows every bulge. I'm gorgeous down here! devil.gif
Canuck Carrie
QUOTE(Velvettt @ Jan 9 2007, 04:51 AM) *
There are no farmers' markets in south Texas. There is no such thing as "in season" for anything.

TX Farmers Markets smile.gif
Caladan
QUOTE(Velvettt @ Jan 10 2007, 10:42 AM) *
LOL!!!! Hey, that was my headline too, except substitute "pagan" for "atheist". Luckily, I was able to spend one 5 month block down here before I emigrated, so I got most of my anti-organized-religion anger out of the way first. And, gf, you ain't seen nothin' till you've seen the hispanic women down in San Antonio, as far as weight goes. I'd be standing in front of my bathroom mirror, wailing about looking pudgy and then I'd go to the grocery store... Holy cow! Not only did they all weigh more than me, they all wore their clothes AT LEAST one size too small so there were rolls and rolls of fat hanging over the waistbands. The WASPy types all have streaked blonde ponytails and designer clothes and the hispanic ones all wear skin-tight Walmart stuff that shows every bulge. I'm gorgeous down here! devil.gif


Oddly, that was my experience in Alberta, minus the Hispanic thing. Lots of very round people in tight expensive clothing.
Velvettt
QUOTE(Canuck Carrie @ Jan 10 2007, 12:50 PM) *
QUOTE(Velvettt @ Jan 9 2007, 04:51 AM) *
There are no farmers' markets in south Texas. There is no such thing as "in season" for anything.

TX Farmers Markets smile.gif

Thanks, Carrie, but I already knew that website and investigated a lot of them. Not one REAL farmers' market among them. Most of them refer to someone with a pickup truck in the parking lot of some store, mostly selling watermelons. I'm talking about a whole parking lot full of different vendor stands, selling everything from apples to zucchini. No such animals around San Antonio, I'm afraid.
DeadPoolX
You know...if you live in Texas, you have access to Central Market. When my Canadian fiancee was down here in Houston on a trip, I brought her there, and she thought the place was fantastic. That store isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but it has practically anything and everything you could want (even things my fiancee had suggested I buy but I couldn't find elsewhere at other stores, like Krogers or Randalls). Most of the items are also without the "extra crap" put into them; much of their stuff is organic as well.

Here are the locations of Central Market in Texas. It is, in fact, a Texas-only operation.

I hope that helps a little on your quest for finding "good food" here in the United States. smile.gif
Velvettt
Thanks, Dead. Central Market is actually on my street, valet parking and all. wacko.gif I take all Canadian visitors there so they can see what $40/lb meat looks like. LOL
Central Market is owned by HEB, which is the one and only grocery store chain in San Antonio and while they carry a lot of "luxury" items, their fruit and veggies section contains the same stuff as at a regular HEB store, but at grossly inflated prices. I.E. the same asparagus that is $3.99/lb at HEB is $5.99/lb at Central Market.
That said, I do really appreciate you folks trying to help me out. good.gif
littlepoem
Ok, I just have to put my 2 cents in here. It's about the portions of food they give you here!!! It's amazing, I could not possibly eat 1/2 of what is on my plate. We have a buffet here called the Old Country Buffet and I am telling you it is like a yard sale at that place of not just overweight but obese people. We watched people who play cards between platefuls and even a lady that was falling asleep with a bun in her hand at the table with a HUGE plate of dessets in front of her. Now, maybe it's just me but isn't it time to quit when you are sitting comatose at the table???? lol....I only weigh 93 pounds and feel when I am there like I need to keep moving because I could be mistaken for a snack or a rack of ribs..lol....ok, enough from me but I just had to share. By the way I just watched the movie "supersize me" WOW!!! MCDONALD'S ANYONE?
Canuck Carrie
QUOTE(Velvettt @ Jan 10 2007, 11:35 AM) *
Thanks, Carrie, but I already knew that website and investigated a lot of them. Not one REAL farmers' market among them. Most of them refer to someone with a pickup truck in the parking lot of some store, mostly selling watermelons. I'm talking about a whole parking lot full of different vendor stands, selling everything from apples to zucchini. No such animals around San Antonio, I'm afraid.

Even the one in Rockport? I was hoping that one might be okay as we try to get down to the coast whenever we can.
You'll have to drive up to San Angelo then, ours is a 'proper' one but you have to get there before 9am.
girl 37
laughing.gif I just read a recipe for "Wilted Lettuce Salad" on the Central Market website. Oh-so-healthy: "Drain bacon and reserve drippings. Crumble bacon into salad. In same skillet, combine reserved bacon drippings, the dressing and sugar and heat to boiling. Pour over salad, top with green onion and black pepper and toss gently." huh.gif
girl 37
QUOTE(littlepoem @ Jan 10 2007, 01:09 PM) *
I only weigh 93 pounds and feel when I am there like I need to keep moving because I could be mistaken for a snack or a rack of ribs..lol....
laughing.gif

hmm... gigantic portions at restaurants and side salads covered with cheese and bacon bits, mass consumption of pop, people using drive-throughs for everything because they're too lazy to get out of their cars, sugar in almost *everything* (bread!!?), aisles & aisles of frozen meals and crap like "chicken crackers". huh.gif At my five-year-old stepson's elementary school they serve breakfast (e.g., donuts with biscuits and cereal) that doesn't include any fruit! no0pb.gif Sometimes I ask myself if the medical insurance & drug companies control the food industry, so they're guaranteed a huge population of people requiring shots for diabetes, pills for high cholesterol, and a steady supply of hip & knee replacements. A Q&A medical column in our local "Parent" magazine asked "Are fad diets ok for kids aged 7-12?" ohmy.gif [/end rant]
littlepoem
I just have to put in my 2 cents here about portion sizes here in the states. I could not possibly begin to eat the amount of food on my plate most of the time. We have a buffet here called The Old Country Buffet and I am telling you this place is a yard sale of not just overweight people but drastically obese. On the last visit there we saw people that were playing cards between heaped up platefuls. That isn't as bad as the next scene across the table from us. A huge lady was falling asleep at her table with about 3 empty plates around her and a massive plate of dessets in front of her. Now, is it just me or do you think if you are laying comatose at the buffet table that it may perhaps be time to go? lol...When I am there I feel like I have to keep moving because I only weigh 93 pounds and could be mistaken for a snack or a rack of ribs. lol.........sorry but I just had to tell you about my OCB adventure!!!
flames9
QUOTE(littlepoem @ Jan 10 2007, 02:29 PM) *
I just have to put in my 2 cents here about portion sizes here in the states. I could not possibly begin to eat the amount of food on my plate most of the time. We have a buffet here called The Old Country Buffet and I am telling you this place is a yard sale of not just overweight people but drastically obese. On the last visit there we saw people that were playing cards between heaped up platefuls. That isn't as bad as the next scene across the table from us. A huge lady was falling asleep at her table with about 3 empty plates around her and a massive plate of dessets in front of her. Now, is it just me or do you think if you are laying comatose at the buffet table that it may perhaps be time to go? lol...When I am there I feel like I have to keep moving because I only weigh 93 pounds and could be mistaken for a snack or a rack of ribs. lol.........sorry but I just had to tell you about my OCB adventure!!!



WHAT, time to go?? When she wakes up, she is going to be hungary!! lol Don't get in her way as she stomps to the buffet!!
littlepoem
QUOTE(flames9 @ Jan 10 2007, 11:33 AM) *
QUOTE(littlepoem @ Jan 10 2007, 02:29 PM) *
I just have to put in my 2 cents here about portion sizes here in the states. I could not possibly begin to eat the amount of food on my plate most of the time. We have a buffet here called The Old Country Buffet and I am telling you this place is a yard sale of not just overweight people but drastically obese. On the last visit there we saw people that were playing cards between heaped up platefuls. That isn't as bad as the next scene across the table from us. A huge lady was falling asleep at her table with about 3 empty plates around her and a massive plate of dessets in front of her. Now, is it just me or do you think if you are laying comatose at the buffet table that it may perhaps be time to go? lol...When I am there I feel like I have to keep moving because I only weigh 93 pounds and could be mistaken for a snack or a rack of ribs. lol.........sorry but I just had to tell you about my OCB adventure!!!



WHAT, time to go?? When she wakes up, she is going to be hungary!! lol Don't get in her way as she stomps to the buffet!!

lol.........when i go there people look at me like "are you lost"
flames9
QUOTE(littlepoem @ Jan 10 2007, 02:39 PM) *
QUOTE(flames9 @ Jan 10 2007, 11:33 AM) *
QUOTE(littlepoem @ Jan 10 2007, 02:29 PM) *
I just have to put in my 2 cents here about portion sizes here in the states. I could not possibly begin to eat the amount of food on my plate most of the time. We have a buffet here called The Old Country Buffet and I am telling you this place is a yard sale of not just overweight people but drastically obese. On the last visit there we saw people that were playing cards between heaped up platefuls. That isn't as bad as the next scene across the table from us. A huge lady was falling asleep at her table with about 3 empty plates around her and a massive plate of dessets in front of her. Now, is it just me or do you think if you are laying comatose at the buffet table that it may perhaps be time to go? lol...When I am there I feel like I have to keep moving because I only weigh 93 pounds and could be mistaken for a snack or a rack of ribs. lol.........sorry but I just had to tell you about my OCB adventure!!!



WHAT, time to go?? When she wakes up, she is going to be hungary!! lol Don't get in her way as she stomps to the buffet!!

lol.........when i go there people look at me like "are you lost"


Or ur a snack!!!! RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
littlepoem
ha!
Velvettt
[/quote]Even the one in Rockport? I was hoping that one might be okay as we try to get down to the coast whenever we can.
You'll have to drive up to San Angelo then, ours is a 'proper' one but you have to get there before 9am.
[/quote]

Rockport's a wee bit far to go grocery shopping from San Antonio! Let's see... 2 and a half hours to Corpus Christi, another half hour or so to Rockport from there... nope. tongue.gif
mozplay
One of the biggest culture shock experiences I had was not so much a reflection on the U.S. but on my own perceptions. I am Canadian born but so far, have lived half my live (the first half) in the Caribbean and the second half in the G.T.A. Needless to say, I am very comfortable in a multi-cultural setting. Perhaps too much so.

The area we live in in Baltimore is predominantly black, when we first moved down, I keep looking for white or Asian faces. Up to now, I have not seen one person of mixed race (like me). There is nothing wrong with this, but it was a shock for me.

Of even greater shock was my own preconcieved notion that I could find a Caribbean grocery simply by asking people. In Toronto, it has been my experience that many of the people of colour (whether it be black or Indian or whatever) have some sort of ties to the Caribbean. Either they have lived there themselves or have a parent, aunt, uncle, cousin, grandparent, friend, somebody who has. Not so in Baltimore. It took me a second to appreciate that these people truly are African-American. Just asking a black person where I could find good jerk or where I could find good curry was not going to cut it.

Just goes to show how sheltered my life has been, even though I have lived in and conquered big bad Toronto, lol.

Monique
Galateia
Gravy.

My fiance is so sick of hearing about the gravy. Gravy goes with fries. It's a brownish colour, and thin enough to dip your fry in or pour over poutine. When I was a Cracker Barrel learning about Biscuits (I wonder if things with that many calories per square inch are just illegal in Canada? blink.gif ) I was gamely testing out my 'grits' when I noticed what appeared to be some sort of white pudding. Ok. Nothing too shocking there.

By then, oh then. His friend picks it up and offers me "gravy". It took me a few seconds to figure out he meant the white stuff. Now, I know that gravy is essentially pure fat but at least it doesn't look like a mound of congealed lard. Made from sausages. I've lived all over, including Montreal, and I can handle weird food, like chicken feet. But white gravy?! Gaah! Gravy shouldn't still look exactly like rendered animal fat.

And my fiance will never let me forget the time I ordered fries at Applebee's and asked for a side of gravy. The girl looked at me blankly, and asked me to repeat myself a few times. She finally offered 'Well, we have some breakfast gravy to go with the biscuits... I guess I could bring that out." Eeeagh! Not the quivering lard of doom!

And people stare at me blankly when I talk about (brown) gravy. "You know, made from turkey at Thanksgiving, or chicken, or beef? Gravy?" *still looking mystified*: "Oh, brown gravy".

And that commercial showing a vat of blubber, I mean sausage gravy, because sucked up through a straw? dead.gif

Hilariously, my fiance thought that he had a bizzarely small stomach, since he only ever managed to eat 1/3-1/2 of the portions served in restaurants down there. Imagine his surprise when he came up here and managed to finish most of his meal!

And the drinks! I had never seen a Margarita the size of my head before, let alone something that big being served to a single person.

Caladan
That's definitely a regional thing. My roommate is from the South, and when she makes gravy, it's white. When my mom makes gravy, it's thin brown juices thickened slightly with flour.
*Marilyn*
my mom always made "white" gravy.... I make it to sometimes....

We called it cream gravy... although we usually use milk not cream....

It is just margarine melted, mix in some flour and add 2 cups of milk and season with salt and pepper to taste... we sometimes fry up onions in the margarine too... yum!! yum!!
kristenm
How about this - There is no such thing as a "milker" for your coffee. Whenever I ask for it, they literally bring me a glass of milk. Oh, and by the way, their so called "half-and-half", is NOT half milk and half cream. No, no, no, its actually 10% cream! GRRRRRRRRrr

And another thing, maybe its me, but mayonaise is not really considered an essential condement. Maybe its like poutine, but what else goes better with your fries, excluding ketchup and/or vinegar? Oh, and somehow, the world has alterned in mysterious ways because ketchup has been replaced with salsa! That's just wrong.

That said, they still know how to throw a sale, a la max!
hockeygal
Bring on the white gravy! The single best thing on any US breakfast menu! yummers!
Mephys
I wouldnt mind trying the white gravy at all......But PLEASE whats wrong with all this ignorance toward THE brown gravy!!!

Poutine, Turkey, fries, Fried chicken, hot chicken sandwich, cant eat any of those without the brown gravy.

Ok american fellows. you dont know poutine, but how the hell do you eat all the rest? Its soooooo dry!

Ill bring these huge containers of mix for Gravy when I move. Specially poutine sauce. Ok I can live without the cheese curds, poutine is always good with mozzarella , but youll never take the poutine sauce away from me!!!! devil.gif

Mephys
CutienPurg
well here in Michigan we have gravy of every type color and consistency.......and asking for it on your fries doesnt ever warrant a confused look......in fact asking for it on anything pretty much is acceptable good.gif
echomyst
QUOTE(Galateia @ Jan 11 2007, 11:06 AM) *
Gravy.

My fiance is so sick of hearing about the gravy. Gravy goes with fries. It's a brownish colour, and thin enough to dip your fry in or pour over poutine. When I was a Cracker Barrel learning about Biscuits (I wonder if things with that many calories per square inch are just illegal in Canada? blink.gif ) I was gamely testing out my 'grits' when I noticed what appeared to be some sort of white pudding. Ok. Nothing too shocking there.

By then, oh then. His friend picks it up and offers me "gravy". It took me a few seconds to figure out he meant the white stuff. Now, I know that gravy is essentially pure fat but at least it doesn't look like a mound of congealed lard. Made from sausages. I've lived all over, including Montreal, and I can handle weird food, like chicken feet. But white gravy?! Gaah! Gravy shouldn't still look exactly like rendered animal fat.

And my fiance will never let me forget the time I ordered fries at Applebee's and asked for a side of gravy. The girl looked at me blankly, and asked me to repeat myself a few times. She finally offered 'Well, we have some breakfast gravy to go with the biscuits... I guess I could bring that out." Eeeagh! Not the quivering lard of doom!

And people stare at me blankly when I talk about (brown) gravy. "You know, made from turkey at Thanksgiving, or chicken, or beef? Gravy?" *still looking mystified*: "Oh, brown gravy".

And that commercial showing a vat of blubber, I mean sausage gravy, because sucked up through a straw? dead.gif

Hilariously, my fiance thought that he had a bizzarely small stomach, since he only ever managed to eat 1/3-1/2 of the portions served in restaurants down there. Imagine his surprise when he came up here and managed to finish most of his meal!

And the drinks! I had never seen a Margarita the size of my head before, let alone something that big being served to a single person.


Hey! Chicken feet isn't weird... yummm :-P It's a staple in Chinese "dim sum" restaurants. Speaking of which, the Chinese food around here sucks. In fact, there is fewer "ethnic foods" here than back home in Toronto. Like someone else mentioned earlier in this thread, even if you ask a person of a certain ethnic background where to find authentic ethnic groceries or restaurants, they'll point you to some Americanized stuff half the time.

I thought the white gravy thing was specific to my in-laws. blink.gif

The chili fries here are good, even though not an exact substitute for poutine.
Kathryn41
Actually, that is one thing here that is much better than I experienced back in Canada - and I suspect it may be regional. There are hundreds of different ethnic restaurants in and around Atlanta. My husband and I regularly enjoy experiencing Thai, Lebanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, Korean and the more expected Mexican, French and Italian restaurants. These restaurants are usually privately owned and run by people from those localities and the food, so far, has been excellent. Atlanta does have a large immigrant population so I guess it is to be expected. I am certainly appreciative.
Velvettt
Oh yeah. White "cream" gravy glopped all over a CHICKEN FRIED STEAK. First time I saw one of those I thought "heart attack on a plate". Who the heck thought that it would be a yummy thing to coat a steak in batter and deep fry it??
Hey, come down to Texas and discover RED GRAVY. Yup, the spicy, tomato sauce they use in TexMex cooking (over top of enchiladas, etc) is called red gravy.
I wanna take out an ad in the paper... "Gravy is made from meat drippings, liquid and a starch thickener. It is not made out of lard and milk, nor is it made out of tomatoes and onions. Those sauces are called by other names."

Someone mentioned debit cards. Do you know that people down here use debit cards solely for purchases or withdrawing money from an ATM? And you can pay for anything with a cheque! Even restaurant meals! When I moved down here, I hadn't done any of my banking without a debit card/bank machine in several years. I deposited my paycheques, I paid my bills by debit card, I even renegotiated my loans. I'd forgotten how to write a cheque.
echomyst
The use of SSN...

In Canada, I hardly ever used my SIN except for filing taxes and employment purposes. But here? They even ask you for the last four digits of your SSN if you want to switch cell phone plans. Weird.
*Marilyn*
QUOTE(Mephys @ Jan 11 2007, 02:49 PM) *
I wouldnt mind trying the white gravy at all......But PLEASE whats wrong with all this ignorance toward THE brown gravy!!!

Poutine, Turkey, fries, Fried chicken, hot chicken sandwich, cant eat any of those without the brown gravy.

Ok american fellows. you dont know poutine, but how the hell do you eat all the rest? Its soooooo dry!

Ill bring these huge containers of mix for Gravy when I move. Specially poutine sauce. Ok I can live without the cheese curds, poutine is always good with mozzarella , but youll never take the poutine sauce away from me!!!! devil.gif

Mephys

ummm, we use brown gravy with our turkey down here in California blink.gif

like I mentioned earlier it has a lot more to do with where you live in the US or Canada, then if you live in US or Canada....
CanuckmeetsYank
For Me I found that it was the small things that have sent me for a loop. Like waiting in line at the post office. Mind you, Canada post is not much better but I seriously watched the clerk come off a break serve one customer then put her sign up for another break. I waited about 25 minutes to get a bloody stamp.

I moved to Chicago from Calgary and I am originally from Halifax. So I went from small city to medium Large city to OMG! Way to many people! That is taking sometime to get use to.

The rudeness I finds varies from time to time. I have encountered some really nice people, and I have had some quite terrible service. My Favorite was when I went to Borders and was looking for this particular book for my fiance, so I asked the guy at the counter for it by name. He asked me to repeat myself about 3 times and finally said "where are you from?!" I gave him my death stare and said I just moved here from Canada, I didn't think I was speaking any other language then english!

Banking here is very different then what I am use to. There it this whole your debit card is sometimes a credit card just depending on the machine at the store. Sometimes you put your PIN # in sometimes you sign.

I have to agree with a few other people here the sales are fantastic! They really do know the meaning of a sale.
MarieAnastasia
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Jan 11 2007, 02:32 PM) *
my mom always made "white" gravy.... I make it to sometimes....

We called it cream gravy... although we usually use milk not cream....

It is just margarine melted, mix in some flour and add 2 cups of milk and season with salt and pepper to taste... we sometimes fry up onions in the margarine too... yum!! yum!!

Marilyn, we always called that 'drawn butter'...yummy too.......'Gravy' in my neck of the woods is brown made from the pan drippings (roast, chicken, turkey etc) and add a bit of flour or corn starch and water (and a few tablespoons of liquid that the vegables are cooked in) But this bisquit or chicken gravy that I've seen in the States turns my heart....lol.........to each his own I guess!!............{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
MarieAnastasia
Ditto to the stares when requesting gravy for my fries!!!!!!!!!! wacko.gif I feel like saying, 'I'm only asking for gravy not a weapon!!' We're gravy fearing people....lol
KarenCee
QUOTE(echomyst @ Jan 12 2007, 03:28 AM) *
The use of SSN...

In Canada, I hardly ever used my SIN except for filing taxes and employment purposes. But here? They even ask you for the last four digits of your SSN if you want to switch cell phone plans. Weird.


I would be impossible to count how many times I've been asked for my SSN. The DMV here will automatically use it as your driver's license number if you don't request that they don't. The constant request for my SSN *has* to be one of the most irritating things for me and I'm the USC! Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING hinges on those 9 frickin numbers! One example: we have the occasional parent that comes to register their child for school. Now, the SSN is used as the number to identify the student. This parent may not want to use their child's SSN so they have to sign a paper stating that, and what the reason is.

OK..rant over. smile.gif

Oh and BTW....there are so many "types" of gravy here in the South, none of which is good for you. That's not to say they don't *taste* good. smile.gif When I try to recreate Poutine here at home, I use the brown gravy packets, the kind you add water to and cook on the stove. So far my Joel likes it. The white gravy stuff....ewwwwww!

AntandD
Hi Everyone,

I know that this was a post from awhile ago, but I thought I'd give my answer to it now . So my answers are (in no particular order).

The"culture-shock" I experienced were:
1) Moving from a big city in Canada (with a population of a couple of million people) to a small rural town in America (with a population of a couple of thousand people)
2) The friendlier attitudes that Americans have (from my experience anyways)
3) The difference between "Canadian English" and "American English" in terms of spelling (Sorry, words just look better when they are spelt with "-our", "-re", and "grey", not "-or", "-er",
or "gray".). Ditto on the "Metric System" and "Non-Metric System".
4) Having to pay for healthcare and being asked about health insurance, SSN and stuff like that.
5) How challenging the US immigration process and really is (I'm sure many of you can relate).

Ant
echomyst
QUOTE(antocru @ Jan 27 2007, 11:30 PM) *
Hi Everyone,

I know that this was a post from awhile ago, but I thought I'd give my answer to it now . So my answers are (in no particular order).

The"culture-shock" I experienced were:
1) Moving from a big city in Canada (with a population of a couple of million people) to a small rural town in America (with a population of a couple of thousand people)
2) The friendlier attitudes that Americans have (from my experience anyways)
3) The difference between "Canadian English" and "American English" in terms of spelling (Sorry, words just look better when they are spelt with "-our", "-re", and "grey", not "-or", "-er",
or "gray".). Ditto on the "Metric System" and "Non-Metric System".
4) Having to pay for healthcare and being asked about health insurance, SSN and stuff like that.
5) How challenging the US immigration process and really is (I'm sure many of you can relate).

Ant


Hi Ant! Nice to see you here ;-) Looks like you've been posting a lot already. I've been offline for the past little while.

I still haven't learned to convert from Celsius to Fahrenheit. Nowadays, I just guess at the temperature...

Back in Canada, I've never had to second-guess doctor's visits... you just drop in, and you don't have to pay any hidden fees. Apparently at our Kaiser here, it's $15 per doctor's visit, even though I know exactly what I need and just want a prescription.

I like pronouncing "route" root, but here it's r-out. "Buoy" is boy to me, but booey to everyone else here smile.gif

Man, I'm tired. I finally received an email notification today from the gov't telling me that my EAD's on its way. I have no idea where to start in terms of job search. Being dumped back at square one is hard.
Reba
I've experienced probably all of the above, and even after more than 2 years, nothing really has changed much. I still get people around town and at work who look at me funny when I say something that, I can only guess, is uniquely Canadian, because they have no clue what I'm talking about. And I have yet to make any even casual acquaintances at work, and I've been there 6 months now. The other day, near lunch time I asked one of the ladies who sits near me "hey where you guys going for lunch, take me with you" They left without me, without even a nod, or a "sorry, no room". So much for southern hospitality.

I miss Greek food sooooooo much! In the GTA its pretty much everywhere, not so here. There's even a "Greek" restaurant in town here, the only thing Greek about it is the owner. The food ain't Greek, that's for sure tongue.gif I ate it and wanted to hand it to the chef and ask him if he'd feed it to his Grandmother. bland bland bland. blah.

Even the Thai food isn't really Thai. Its all been blanded down for the sensitive local palete. And its all kinda boring really. Whenever I go home for a visit, I have a list of foods I absolutely *must* eat when I get there. Proper souvlaki, fish n chips (none of that around here either), back bacon (usually at Pickel Barrel with eggs benedict), and of course chocolate. wink.gif Among others.

I have however found myself lately to be saying "zee" instead of "zed" when I'm around anyone other than my husband, and I've tried my best to figure out how cold is 30F and how hot is 35C. I won't tell you how much I weigh in either pounds or kilos, so don't bother asking tongue.gif laughing.gif

There are no farmer's markets around here either, except maybe up in Asheville (I've heard rumours, I don't know what's there though) but that's an hour long drive. I grew up in Stouffville, north of Toronto and spent Saturdays at The Big Flea (or the Sales Barn as we locals called it). They had everything from local farmers' crops of pretty much everything, to Mormon Bakers, to Cheese mongers (mmmm, cheese), to people trying to sell off their junk. My Dad used to buy all his tools there, and we went at the beginning of summer every year to get new sandals, and at the beginning of winter every year to get new boots or new skates.

And in Canada I don't have to differeniate when I say skates. I don't have to say "ice skates" or "snow skiing". Everyone knows what the heck I'm talking about with context. I might have to say "figure skates" as opposed to "hockey skates" depending on who I'm talking to.

A toque is a knitted cap to wear in the wintertime. A toboggan is something to slide down a snowy hill on. End of point tongue.gif (Canucks who have moved to the South will know what I'm talking about!)

Racial segregation is alive and well down here, no doubt about it. Bigotry and ignorance is a way of life, and people don't think twice about desparaging a particular color of skin, or nation of origin. And that includes Canada and Canadians. According to some down here, we pay 75% in income taxes for our "free" socialist healthcare (socialist being the next best thing to communism as far as some know), we have no civil rights, and we have never faught in *any* war. (ugh...the other night we had one ignorant arrogant American at dinner who said he'd gone to France and insulted a waiter by saying "hey man you'd be speaking German right now if it wasn't for us, so just get me my damn food" er summat. I seriously wanted to hit him, then give him a history lesson. I kept my mouth shut, because I've learned enough down here to know I just can't win because as far as they've learned they *did* win the war, and they were the *only* ones there.) Unfortunately my husband is also a victim of upbringing and has tendencies toward classism and racism that he doesn't even notice most of the time, that make me angry and uncomfortable. I'm not saying it doesn't happen in Canada, because it does. But from my own experience, its usually from the older generations who remember the buses being segregated. Not (usually) people my age or younger. Crazy neo-Nazis aside of course. They're everywhere sadly.

As a Pagan who moved from the Big City to small Extremely Christian city, I've run into more than a few times where I've felt *very* uncomfortable. BUT, I've learned how to dodge the questions, and sound like I know what I'm talking about (8 years of Catholic school helped wink.gif ) and every now and then will say something that sounds so utterly Christian to the ears here, that I ward off the stake burning for another week or so.

Other than that, its starting to become familiar. But like others, I don't think I'll ever "settle" or really feel at home here. I hope that soon we can move to Canada. That of course requires my husband to do more paperwork, and he's still got a bad taste in his mouth, so I have to figure out how to trick him into going to the police station for fingerprints whistling.gif
jg_am
QUOTE(echomyst @ Jan 28 2007, 01:42 PM) *
I still haven't learned to convert from Celsius to Fahrenheit. Nowadays, I just guess at the temperature...

I like pronouncing "route" root, but here it's r-out. "Buoy" is boy to me, but booey to everyone else here smile.gif


Route being pronouced "root" ot "r-out" is a regional thing. I'm from Philadelphia and if varries for people. Most of us say it like "root". We also say creek like "eek" or "ick" depending on which part of PA you're from our which stream you're talking about, but that's not what this post is about. smile.gif

I have a quick unscientific way to convert farenheight to Celsius. It works both ways. 50F is 10C. For each degree of Celcius you go, figure two degress Farenheight. ie: 15C = 60F, 5C = 40F. Keep in mind this is a rough estimate so it's not quite those temps but close enough.
warlord
Well with the conversion something I've had to do to get from Farenheit to Celcius is just do a simple, subtract 30 and divide by two. So to go from Celcius to Farenheit just take your number, double it and add 30 and there's a simple rough estimate...
echomyst
Thanks for the conversion tips, jg_am & warlord!
Velvettt
Yup, subract 30 and divide the remainder by two. You'll be correct within a couple of degrees. Maybe changing over to Fahrenheit is easier for those of us who are a little (ahem) more mature. I grew up with F. When I bought my first car, I filled it with gallons of gas. Celsius never felt natural to me and I don't mind changing back a bit!
flames9
I still use celsius and write "cheque" Of course when writing papers for school, I have to bow down to the authority! lol
AntandD
Hi Everyone!

Oh, another two items I forgot to add to the list:
a) The spelling of a bank check is "cheque", not "check"
cool.gif The date is written 31/01/07 (day, month year), not 01/31/07 (month, day, year)
c) Thanksgiving is both in October and November (Yippee, two thanksgivings! Though I only get to celebrate one here in the USA sad.gif). And yes, there are a lot more other holidays here in the USA than in Canada!

As for the temperature conversion thing, here is my simple solution:
-Stick my head, arms, and feet, out the door/window and figure out if it is:
a) Really Cold (Winter, big winter coat)
cool.gif Cold (Winter/Fall, small winter coat)
c) Warm (Fall/Spring, light jacket)
d) Hot (Spring/Summer, no coat or jackets)
e) Really Hot (Summer, short sleeved clothing)
-Lol...it worked in the old days before they started recording temperatures, so it should work now. Besides, I still can't figure out the conversions, as I am mathematically-challenged. Then again, I could just be lazy and ask my husband (the math whiz in the family) what the temperature is. Still, I prefer the simple solution way...

The temperature today where I am: Really Cold (and yes, I still have a foot (how many metres is that?)) of snow to shovel)....

Ant
misa
Job application forms in the U.S. ... do they actually have checkboxes for race?

I've *never* seen that here in Canada, though it's been awhile since I filled out a job application.
Reba
Yes, they really do have a box to check for your race on pretty much everything down here. In Canada it is illegal to ask that question.

The first thing I noticed it on was the form for our marriage license. I was sitting there filling it out and looked at James flabbergasted, he said "just fill in the damn form!" then the lady asked me to put my hand on the bible and he jabbed me in the ribs to say "just do it already!"

And btw, according to the Caldwell County registrar's office, being Canadian makes me a different "race" than my husband. I tried to explain the difference between nationality and race to the woman, and she would have nothing of it. eejit wacko.gif
misa
That is kind of scary that they'd ask for race on like everything! I figured it was probably illegal here (same with requiring an SSN on a job application or requiring your marital status).

On my marriage license there was something for race too, which I filled out, I just found it ODD... I didn't have to swear on a bible but I did have to take that oath swearing that we weren't incompetent or related to each other -- at which point I laughed since we are of different ethnic backgrounds.
Emancipation
Ha HA!! I was thinking I musta been crazy when I read the Race Block on the Marraige license!!! I had to call my fiance at work and ask him what the HECK I had to put there. Funny the difference between the two Countries. I guess that's the difference the Charter of Rights makes!! smile.gif Wacky!
warlord
Yeah my dad sent me a money order and put on it Cheque and I was like what is that ha ha. It was a money order or check, just never seen it written that way.

Also had to look on the postage date, and it is done differently rather then the usual month/day/year, they have it in a different order so it's confusing for me understanding Canadian. Of course for those comming here to the US now, it'll be a bit confusing for them too writting down things.

Another thing is when at a restraunt, my dad always asks for "the bill" rather then "the check". Don't know if this is a local thing or not, but not sure if it would make any differnce, I'm sure they can figure out what's what.
riblet
When my husband and I went to get our license, they filled in the info for us... well when we we're going to sign it, I noticed that the woman had checked "Hispanic" for my husband. He's Portuguese and Brazilian... I really don't get those race boxes, especially when they have like 3 boxes.

She apologized and said she had made a mistake- but then she just looked at him and asked, "So, what are you then?" Why do they even care?

QUOTE(Emancipation @ Feb 9 2007, 11:17 AM) *
Ha HA!! I was thinking I musta been crazy when I read the Race Block on the Marraige license!!! I had to call my fiance at work and ask him what the HECK I had to put there. Funny the difference between the two Countries. I guess that's the difference the Charter of Rights makes!! smile.gif Wacky!

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