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roxy

my husband came here when he was 7 he has resided here since then he never left the country. He is now 22 I filed the I 130 went through the whole worthless process he was rejected and got stuck in mexico. He was rejected for 3 years because they found marijuana in his system from the medical exam. he isnt addicted hes just stupid n childish he smoked it occasinally. i think it would have been maybe a year and half to 2 years if it hadn't been for that. DOES ANYBODY KNOW FOR SURE IF HE WILL GET MORE TIME even after he's done the 3 years. we went to mexico for the interview most people were getting about 1 to 2 years and sometimes less. the immigration officer told him that all i need to do is send form I-601 and then he can call and reschedule another interview after its been sent off but doesnt I - 601 have to be approved first before he can even be considered for another interview. somebody PLEASE ANSWER ME.
kitkat1
Drug use is grounds for denial:

Classes of Aliens Ineligible for Visas or Admission.-Except as otherwise provided in this Act, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States:

(iv) who is determined (in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services) to be a drug abuser or addict, is inadmissible.



It appears you would still need the waiver after the three years due to his illegal presence in the US after the age of 18 which is a ten year ban (based on more than 365 days of illegal presence). It's impossible to know if this will still be necessary or how long processing will take - a lot can change in the world of immigration in three years. (Last year 601 waiver approval was averaging 4 months in Ciudad Juarez, now it's 10 months, and they are trying to reduce it back to 3 months).

I would contact a lawyer to be sure you are clear on the next steps and the requirements of the consulate - I believe they require proof of rehab. after the three years have passed.

Also contact member Heina who is in similar situation at CDJ.

John and Sonya
QUOTE(roxy @ Jan 5 2007, 10:35 PM) *
my husband came here when he was 7 he has resided here since then he never left the country. He is now 22 I filed the I 130 went through the whole worthless process he was rejected and got stuck in mexico. He was rejected for 3 years because they found marijuana in his system from the medical exam. he isnt addicted hes just stupid n childish he smoked it occasinally. i think it would have been maybe a year and half to 2 years if it hadn't been for that. DOES ANYBODY KNOW FOR SURE IF HE WILL GET MORE TIME even after he's done the 3 years. we went to mexico for the interview most people were getting about 1 to 2 years and sometimes less. the immigration officer told him that all i need to do is send form I-601 and then he can call and reschedule another interview after its been sent off but doesnt I - 601 have to be approved first before he can even be considered for another interview. somebody PLEASE ANSWER ME.


I want to take the righteous extreme on this because I feel so strongly about this. I have met a couple of woman that are dating friends of mine from other countries. They married an american to get their VISA's here and now they live seperated from them because it was an arranged marriage for purpose of VISA. This bothers me. If you want to enter my country, then follow the rules. Its a selfish act to smoke, not a childish act. As well it is illegal! Personally, I show no sympathy to what happened, there are too many people who are willing to follow laws and be good citizens to enter our country, and cannot because of long waits or restrictions. Also we have enough drug problems in america let alone to introduce a possible new one or a person who feels they are above the laws. And if he is here illegally, I hope he gets caught and shipped back. My taxes should support legal, law following people.
kitkat1
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 6 2007, 11:04 AM) *
I want to take the righteous extreme on this because I feel so strongly about this. I have met a couple of woman that are dating friends of mine from other countries. They married an american to get their VISA's here and now they live seperated from them because it was an arranged marriage for purpose of VISA. This bothers me. If you want to enter my country, then follow the rules. Its a selfish act to smoke, not a childish act. As well it is illegal! Personally, I show no sympathy to what happened, there are too many people who are willing to follow laws and be good citizens to enter our country, and cannot because of long waits or restrictions. Also we have enough drug problems in america let alone to introduce a possible new one or a person who feels they are above the laws. And if he is here illegally, I hope he gets caught and shipped back. My taxes should support legal, law following people.


You are of course entitled to your opinion. But the OP was asking for information regarding what will happen in their quest to get him legal going forward. At least she has tried to do the right thing - she filed the petition, he went to the interview, he was denied due to drug use, and would have been denied due to his illegal presence. She is now looking for help on the next steps on how to make things right. He is in Mexico - he's not in the US illegally. And nothing she posted implies it was an arranged marriage or someone married to an American trying to get a visa - this is a totally different situation.
John and Sonya
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 6 2007, 11:26 AM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 6 2007, 11:04 AM) *
I want to take the righteous extreme on this because I feel so strongly about this. I have met a couple of woman that are dating friends of mine from other countries. They married an american to get their VISA's here and now they live seperated from them because it was an arranged marriage for purpose of VISA. This bothers me. If you want to enter my country, then follow the rules. Its a selfish act to smoke, not a childish act. As well it is illegal! Personally, I show no sympathy to what happened, there are too many people who are willing to follow laws and be good citizens to enter our country, and cannot because of long waits or restrictions. Also we have enough drug problems in america let alone to introduce a possible new one or a person who feels they are above the laws. And if he is here illegally, I hope he gets caught and shipped back. My taxes should support legal, law following people.


You are of course entitled to your opinion. But the OP was asking for information regarding what will happen in their quest to get him legal going forward. At least she has tried to do the right thing - she filed the petition, he went to the interview, he was denied due to drug use, and would have been denied due to his illegal presence. She is now looking for help on the next steps on how to make things right. He is in Mexico - he's not in the US illegally. And nothing she posted implies it was an arranged marriage or someone married to an American trying to get a visa - this is a totally different situation.


Your oppinion, the illegal marriage is just another scenerio of abuse to immigrate to US. She tried, of course, dont blame, but the process did exactly as its suppose, keep out the undesirables.
kitkat1
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 6 2007, 02:46 PM) *
Your oppinion, the illegal marriage is just another scenerio of abuse to immigrate to US. She tried, of course, dont blame, but the process did exactly as its suppose, keep out the undesirables.


You're correct that the process did exactly what it was supposed to do - the US obviously doesn't want drug abusers as immigrants. But I don't see where the "illegal marriage" fits in. . .
roxy
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 6 2007, 01:04 PM) *
QUOTE(roxy @ Jan 5 2007, 10:35 PM) *
my husband came here when he was 7 he has resided here since then he never left the country. He is now 22 I filed the I 130 went through the whole worthless process he was rejected and got stuck in mexico. He was rejected for 3 years because they found marijuana in his system from the medical exam. he isnt addicted hes just stupid n childish he smoked it occasinally. i think it would have been maybe a year and half to 2 years if it hadn't been for that. DOES ANYBODY KNOW FOR SURE IF HE WILL GET MORE TIME even after he's done the 3 years. we went to mexico for the interview most people were getting about 1 to 2 years and sometimes less. the immigration officer told him that all i need to do is send form I-601 and then he can call and reschedule another interview after its been sent off but doesnt I - 601 have to be approved first before he can even be considered for another interview. somebody PLEASE ANSWER ME.


I want to take the righteous extreme on this because I feel so strongly about this. I have met a couple of woman that are dating friends of mine from other countries. They married an american to get their VISA's here and now they live seperated from them because it was an arranged marriage for purpose of VISA. This bothers me. If you want to enter my country, then follow the rules. Its a selfish act to smoke, not a childish act. As well it is illegal! Personally, I show no sympathy to what happened, there are too many people who are willing to follow laws and be good citizens to enter our country, and cannot because of long waits or restrictions. Also we have enough drug problems in america let alone to introduce a possible new one or a person who feels they are above the laws. And if he is here illegally, I hope he gets caught and shipped back. My taxes should support legal, law following people.


that was rather bold of you and shows a lack of empathy, i feel sorry for you. I agree with you all the way on your feelings of it being selfish your right it's selfish not childish because he's a 22 year boy( doesn't believe he's grown) he's a grown man and should no better. I think its rather prejudice and bias of you to make your comments without knowing facts. What about the people who are born here and are murders and rapist, does it justify it because their americans by birth. the only thing about this whole thing that hurts me is that theirs a three year old little girl who asks where her daddy is. He may not have been the nicest person to me but he was a good father to her and she was crazy about her daddy. We didn't get married for his visa I married him out of love and so that hopefully he will be the one bringing the bread to the plate rather than it always being me because i am to god damn tired. when i met him I was a foolish 15 year old girl i was looking to finish high school not looking this much into the future. Sometimes your heart thinks for you ( im guilty of that ) but not marrying for a visa why do it for free when you can make money out of it.
roxy
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 6 2007, 12:08 PM) *
Drug use is grounds for denial:

Classes of Aliens Ineligible for Visas or Admission.-Except as otherwise provided in this Act, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States:

(iv) who is determined (in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services) to be a drug abuser or addict, is inadmissible.



It appears you would still need the waiver after the three years due to his illegal presence in the US after the age of 18 which is a ten year ban (based on more than 365 days of illegal presence). It's impossible to know if this will still be necessary or how long processing will take - a lot can change in the world of immigration in three years. (Last year 601 waiver approval was averaging 4 months in Ciudad Juarez, now it's 10 months, and they are trying to reduce it back to 3 months).

I would contact a lawyer to be sure you are clear on the next steps and the requirements of the consulate - I believe they require proof of rehab. after the three years have passed.

Also contact member Heina who is in similar situation at CDJ.


thank you so much for your reply, how do i find Heina, well i'll figure it out im new at this so im still learning whats where. I know I will need to file the waiver but im wondering what the chances of it being denied are. The immigration officer had told him he should be fine as long as he comes back clean but who knows how truthful those immigration officers are. Im reluctant to get a lawyer because the lawyers around here are hungry coyottes. I dont trust any of them out here because there aren't any with good reputations.

roxy
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 6 2007, 04:46 PM) *
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 6 2007, 11:26 AM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 6 2007, 11:04 AM) *
I want to take the righteous extreme on this because I feel so strongly about this. I have met a couple of woman that are dating friends of mine from other countries. They married an american to get their VISA's here and now they live seperated from them because it was an arranged marriage for purpose of VISA. This bothers me. If you want to enter my country, then follow the rules. Its a selfish act to smoke, not a childish act. As well it is illegal! Personally, I show no sympathy to what happened, there are too many people who are willing to follow laws and be good citizens to enter our country, and cannot because of long waits or restrictions. Also we have enough drug problems in america let alone to introduce a possible new one or a person who feels they are above the laws. And if he is here illegally, I hope he gets caught and shipped back. My taxes should support legal, law following people.


You are of course entitled to your opinion. But the OP was asking for information regarding what will happen in their quest to get him legal going forward. At least she has tried to do the right thing - she filed the petition, he went to the interview, he was denied due to drug use, and would have been denied due to his illegal presence. She is now looking for help on the next steps on how to make things right. He is in Mexico - he's not in the US illegally. And nothing she posted implies it was an arranged marriage or someone married to an American trying to get a visa - this is a totally different situation.


Your oppinion, the illegal marriage is just another scenerio of abuse to immigrate to US. She tried, of course, dont blame, but the process did exactly as its suppose, keep out the undesirables.

your so narrow minded and immature. It's to bad that you weren't taught tolerance. the fact that people tolerate each other differences is what makes this country great
kitkat1
QUOTE(roxy @ Jan 6 2007, 11:45 PM) *
thank you so much for your reply, how do i find Heina, well i'll figure it out im new at this so im still learning whats where. I know I will need to file the waiver but im wondering what the chances of it being denied are. The immigration officer had told him he should be fine as long as he comes back clean but who knows how truthful those immigration officers are. Im reluctant to get a lawyer because the lawyers around here are hungry coyottes. I dont trust any of them out here because there aren't any with good reputations.



Use the advanced search feature to locate Heina by name and send her a private message.

I would at least go to Attorney Laurel Scott's free chat on www.visacentral.net - Wednesdays at 11 am central time. She is very well respected and you need legal advice in your situation.

If you hardship letter is strong with documentation, your waiver will be approved. But that would be after the 3 year ban.

Good luck.
kitkat1
QUOTE(roxy @ Jan 6 2007, 11:45 PM) *
thank you so much for your reply, how do i find Heina, well i'll figure it out im new at this so im still learning whats where. I know I will need to file the waiver but im wondering what the chances of it being denied are. The immigration officer had told him he should be fine as long as he comes back clean but who knows how truthful those immigration officers are. Im reluctant to get a lawyer because the lawyers around here are hungry coyottes. I dont trust any of them out here because there aren't any with good reputations.



Use the advanced search feature to locate Heina by name and sen her a PM

I would at least go to Attorney Laurel Scott's free chat on www.visacentral.net - Wednesdays at 11 am central time. She is very well respected and you need legal advice in your situation.

If you hardship letter is strong with documentation, your waiver will be approved. But that would be after the 3 year ban.

Good luck.
John and Sonya
QUOTE(roxy @ Jan 6 2007, 11:32 PM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 6 2007, 01:04 PM) *
QUOTE(roxy @ Jan 5 2007, 10:35 PM) *
my husband came here when he was 7 he has resided here since then he never left the country. He is now 22 I filed the I 130 went through the whole worthless process he was rejected and got stuck in mexico. He was rejected for 3 years because they found marijuana in his system from the medical exam. he isnt addicted hes just stupid n childish he smoked it occasinally. i think it would have been maybe a year and half to 2 years if it hadn't been for that. DOES ANYBODY KNOW FOR SURE IF HE WILL GET MORE TIME even after he's done the 3 years. we went to mexico for the interview most people were getting about 1 to 2 years and sometimes less. the immigration officer told him that all i need to do is send form I-601 and then he can call and reschedule another interview after its been sent off but doesnt I - 601 have to be approved first before he can even be considered for another interview. somebody PLEASE ANSWER ME.


I want to take the righteous extreme on this because I feel so strongly about this. I have met a couple of woman that are dating friends of mine from other countries. They married an american to get their VISA's here and now they live seperated from them because it was an arranged marriage for purpose of VISA. This bothers me. If you want to enter my country, then follow the rules. Its a selfish act to smoke, not a childish act. As well it is illegal! Personally, I show no sympathy to what happened, there are too many people who are willing to follow laws and be good citizens to enter our country, and cannot because of long waits or restrictions. Also we have enough drug problems in america let alone to introduce a possible new one or a person who feels they are above the laws. And if he is here illegally, I hope he gets caught and shipped back. My taxes should support legal, law following people.


that was rather bold of you and shows a lack of empathy, i feel sorry for you. I agree with you all the way on your feelings of it being selfish your right it's selfish not childish because he's a 22 year boy( doesn't believe he's grown) he's a grown man and should no better. I think its rather prejudice and bias of you to make your comments without knowing facts. What about the people who are born here and are murders and rapist, does it justify it because their americans by birth. the only thing about this whole thing that hurts me is that theirs a three year old little girl who asks where her daddy is. He may not have been the nicest person to me but he was a good father to her and she was crazy about her daddy. We didn't get married for his visa I married him out of love and so that hopefully he will be the one bringing the bread to the plate rather than it always being me because i am to god damn tired. when i met him I was a foolish 15 year old girl i was looking to finish high school not looking this much into the future. Sometimes your heart thinks for you ( im guilty of that ) but not marrying for a visa why do it for free when you can make money out of it.


Tolerance, immature and narrow minded. And what prejudice??? Read your own words, he was here illegally in US since 7 yrs old and broke the law again by smoking dope and got caught!! My oppinion with many others as you will find, is keep him out. We have enough issues with illegal aliens let alone ones who break the law also! My taxes are high enough then to support this!

A person who breaks the law twice and we should allow him to immigrate to America? No thank you. What circumstances is there needed to know? We have a "man" who did not regard the law, USCIS catches him, sends sends him back to Mexico, my hat off to the government for sending him back. And now you are asking how you can get around the system or make it faster to get him here? No thank you. Thats all we need in our country is another drug user. As far as the crime that goes on here, its everywhere, but when caught, I would hope that REAL american would get his due punishment, has nothing to do with what you are asking.

Make a life with the one you love in Mexico, and when his time is up for banning him from coming here, hopefully by then he has grown up and realized there are laws to follow in this country, then I welcome him. Remember, this is my country, not yours or your husband. We welcome honest, law abiding immigrants. My wife is from Ukraine, passed her police background check, passed her medical DRUG FREE!! and plans on contributing to society by becoming a teacher here and pay taxes. I would also assume that since he got deported, that this 22 year old man didnt even have a social security card? So working here illegally as well? If mistaken, then appologize in advance.

What makes America great is not tolerance, is the ability to have open views and express them. But since you are not an American, dont tell me what makes America great and call me narrow minded. Make a life for you, your daughter, and your husband, who I am sure is a good father, in Mexico.

kitkat1
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 7 2007, 11:12 AM) *
he was here illegally in US since 7 yrs old

Do you really believe that at age 7 HE was the one who made the choice to come to the US illegally? In fact, illegal presence in the US before the age of 18 holds NO ban. USCIS does not hold children responsible for the actions of their parents

QUOTE
USCIS catches him, sends sends him back to Mexico. since he got deported
NOWHERE did the OP say that he was caught and sent back or deported. He left on his own. . . you might consider giving him an ounce of credit for that.

QUOTE
So working here illegally as well

Obviously this was the case. But the US government forgives illegal work when married to a USC so it's not exactly the biggest issue in this case.

QUOTE
when his time is up for banning him from coming here, hopefully by then he has grown up and realized there are laws to follow in this country,

That's why she posted in the first place -- she is trying to plan appropriately for the next steps when his ban is up.
John and Sonya
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 7 2007, 11:21 AM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 7 2007, 11:12 AM) *
he was here illegally in US since 7 yrs old

Do you really believe that at age 7 HE was the one who made the choice to come to the US illegally? In fact, illegal presence in the US before the age of 18 holds NO ban. USCIS does not hold children responsible for the actions of their parents

QUOTE
USCIS catches him, sends sends him back to Mexico. since he got deported
NOWHERE did the OP say that he was caught and sent back or deported. He left on his own. . . you might consider giving him an ounce of credit for that.

QUOTE
So working here illegally as well

Obviously this was the case. But the US government forgives illegal work when married to a USC so it's not exactly the biggest issue in this case.

QUOTE
when his time is up for banning him from coming here, hopefully by then he has grown up and realized there are laws to follow in this country,
That's why she posted in the first place -- she is trying to plan appropriately for the next steps when his ban is up.


I am not one to get on a soap box, but this really got me pissed off. This all started with her calling the process worthless, its not, IT WORKED!! It kept an undesirable out for three years. It is also obvious that he is an illegal alien as well as his parents. If I am wrong, then I appologize. So, illegal alien, probably him and his parents never paid taxes, used our over-exhausted system, uses drugs and everyone here thinks we should accept it, because its just a mistake and I should be tolerant. Dont think so. This country has a long list of people who want to enter here and be law abiding, taxing paying citizens. But we have many, like above who waste the quota space. The process worked, and she called it worthless????? I challenge her to post a forum and see how many LEGAL AMERICANS would support this or support a person who has no regard for the laws and proper immigration laws to allow them another chance and calls our system worthless.
kitkat1
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 7 2007, 11:33 AM) *
I am not one to get on a soap box, but this really got me pissed off. This all started with her calling the process worthless, its not, IT WORKED!! It kept an undesirable out for three years. It is also obvious that he is an illegal alien as well as his parents. If I am wrong, then I appologize. So, illegal alien, probably him and his parents never paid taxes, used our over-exhausted system, uses drugs and everyone here thinks we should accept it, because its just a mistake and I should be tolerant. Dont think so. This country has a long list of people who want to enter here and be law abiding, taxing paying citizens. But we have many, like above who waste the quota space. The process worked, and she called it worthless????? I challenge her to post a forum and see how many LEGAL AMERICANS would support this or support a person who has no regard for the laws and proper immigration laws to allow them another chance and calls our system worthless.


OK - agreed. She called the system worthless when in fact it did exactly what it was supposed to do. No one said his situation should be accepted or even tolerated. But this was not a discussion about illegal aliens in the US. It was a request for assistance regarding the next steps to make things right.
John and Sonya
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 7 2007, 11:39 AM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 7 2007, 11:33 AM) *
I am not one to get on a soap box, but this really got me pissed off. This all started with her calling the process worthless, its not, IT WORKED!! It kept an undesirable out for three years. It is also obvious that he is an illegal alien as well as his parents. If I am wrong, then I appologize. So, illegal alien, probably him and his parents never paid taxes, used our over-exhausted system, uses drugs and everyone here thinks we should accept it, because its just a mistake and I should be tolerant. Dont think so. This country has a long list of people who want to enter here and be law abiding, taxing paying citizens. But we have many, like above who waste the quota space. The process worked, and she called it worthless????? I challenge her to post a forum and see how many LEGAL AMERICANS would support this or support a person who has no regard for the laws and proper immigration laws to allow them another chance and calls our system worthless.


OK - agreed. She called the system worthless when in fact it did exactly what it was supposed to do. No one said his situation should be accepted or even tolerated. But this was not a discussion about illegal aliens in the US. It was a request for assistance regarding the next steps to make things right.


Ok - agreed smile.gif Like I said, I dont usually get on a soap box, but our system is not perfect, and when it does right, we should appreciate it, especially Americans. Not call it worthless. And it also appears he is out of the country now because he and his family were here illegally. Again system worked. We know in America, there is a huge tax burden on us Americans because of illegal aliens as well as issues with drug issues. This person is both. So system worked, punishment is just, except my personal oppinion, dont let them ever enter. MY AMERICAN RIGHT TO EXPRESS THIS.

She is in Mexico. Make a life there since neither show any respect for our laws and if broken by stating our laws are worthless, and me, the American should be tolerant? Dont think so. I also support the IMBRA law. It protects woman from other countries entering into an abusive relationship. Maybe if the guy only beat upon one or two woman in his early 20's, we can say he was just childish and should forgive and tolerate and call the system we have as worthless and give him another chance?
roxy
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 7 2007, 12:24 PM) *
QUOTE(roxy @ Jan 6 2007, 11:45 PM) *
thank you so much for your reply, how do i find Heina, well i'll figure it out im new at this so im still learning whats where. I know I will need to file the waiver but im wondering what the chances of it being denied are. The immigration officer had told him he should be fine as long as he comes back clean but who knows how truthful those immigration officers are. Im reluctant to get a lawyer because the lawyers around here are hungry coyottes. I dont trust any of them out here because there aren't any with good reputations.



Use the advanced search feature to locate Heina by name and send her a private message.

I would at least go to Attorney Laurel Scott's free chat on www.visacentral.net - Wednesdays at 11 am central time. She is very well respected and you need legal advice in your situation.

If you hardship letter is strong with documentation, your waiver will be approved. But that would be after the 3 year ban.

Good luck.



THANK YOU SO MUCH smile.gif
roxy
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 7 2007, 01:33 PM) *
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 7 2007, 11:21 AM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 7 2007, 11:12 AM) *
he was here illegally in US since 7 yrs old

Do you really believe that at age 7 HE was the one who made the choice to come to the US illegally? In fact, illegal presence in the US before the age of 18 holds NO ban. USCIS does not hold children responsible for the actions of their parents

QUOTE
USCIS catches him, sends sends him back to Mexico. since he got deported
NOWHERE did the OP say that he was caught and sent back or deported. He left on his own. . . you might consider giving him an ounce of credit for that.

QUOTE
So working here illegally as well

Obviously this was the case. But the US government forgives illegal work when married to a USC so it's not exactly the biggest issue in this case.

QUOTE
when his time is up for banning him from coming here, hopefully by then he has grown up and realized there are laws to follow in this country,
That's why she posted in the first place -- she is trying to plan appropriately for the next steps when his ban is up.


I am not one to get on a soap box, but this really got me pissed off. This all started with her calling the process worthless, its not, IT WORKED!! It kept an undesirable out for three years. It is also obvious that he is an illegal alien as well as his parents. If I am wrong, then I appologize. So, illegal alien, probably him and his parents never paid taxes, used our over-exhausted system, uses drugs and everyone here thinks we should accept it, because its just a mistake and I should be tolerant. Dont think so. This country has a long list of people who want to enter here and be law abiding, taxing paying citizens. But we have many, like above who waste the quota space. The process worked, and she called it worthless????? I challenge her to post a forum and see how many LEGAL AMERICANS would support this or support a person who has no regard for the laws and proper immigration laws to allow them another chance and calls our system worthless.




THE WORTHLESS PART WAS THE TIME AND MONEY I INVESTED. I SHOULD'VE THOUGHT TWICE. IF THE PROCESS CAN WORK FOR OTHER PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY ITS NOT WORTHLESS BUT ON MY FAVOR IT WAS BECAUSE IT CAME BACK TO BITE ME. I AGREE WITH SOME OF YOUR VIEWS BUT I WASNT ASKING FOR YOUR OPIONION ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION EITHER AND DONT MAKE ME HAVE TO DEFEND WHAT IM SAYING EITHER BECAUSE IN A WAY IT DEFENDS HIM AND HE DOESN'T DESERVE IT.

LIKE I SAID MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS MY BABY MISSING HER DADDY!
garya505
This is your brain on drugs girlwerewolf2xn.gif
roxy
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 7 2007, 02:10 PM) *
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 7 2007, 11:39 AM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 7 2007, 11:33 AM) *
I am not one to get on a soap box, but this really got me pissed off. This all started with her calling the process worthless, its not, IT WORKED!! It kept an undesirable out for three years. It is also obvious that he is an illegal alien as well as his parents. If I am wrong, then I appologize. So, illegal alien, probably him and his parents never paid taxes, used our over-exhausted system, uses drugs and everyone here thinks we should accept it, because its just a mistake and I should be tolerant. Dont think so. This country has a long list of people who want to enter here and be law abiding, taxing paying citizens. But we have many, like above who waste the quota space. The process worked, and she called it worthless????? I challenge her to post a forum and see how many LEGAL AMERICANS would support this or support a person who has no regard for the laws and proper immigration laws to allow them another chance and calls our system worthless.


OK - agreed. She called the system worthless when in fact it did exactly what it was supposed to do. No one said his situation should be accepted or even tolerated. But this was not a discussion about illegal aliens in the US. It was a request for assistance regarding the next steps to make things right.


Ok - agreed smile.gif Like I said, I dont usually get on a soap box, but our system is not perfect, and when it does right, we should appreciate it, especially Americans. Not call it worthless. And it also appears he is out of the country now because he and his family were here illegally. Again system worked. We know in America, there is a huge tax burden on us Americans because of illegal aliens as well as issues with drug issues. This person is both. So system worked, punishment is just, except my personal oppinion, dont let them ever enter. MY AMERICAN RIGHT TO EXPRESS THIS.

She is in Mexico. Make a life there since neither show any respect for our laws and if broken by stating our laws are worthless, and me, the American should be tolerant? Dont think so. I also support the IMBRA law. It protects woman from other countries entering into an abusive relationship. Maybe if the guy only beat upon one or two woman in his early 20's, we can say he was just childish and should forgive and tolerate and call the system we have as worthless and give him another chance?


WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHOS IN MEXICO AND WHO SAID IM MEXICAN ANY WAY WHAT ABOUT YOU HOW COME YOU DIDNT STAY AND LIVE WHERE EVER YOUR WIFE IS FROM, HOW COME YOU BROUGHT HER HERE AND IF THERES SO MUCH YOU DONT LIKE HERE WHY ARE YOU HERE ANYWAY. I'D HAVE TO BE CRAZY TO TAKE MY CHILD AND LEAVE WHERE SHE COULDN'T RECEIVE PROPER TREATMENT IF SHE GOT SICK. I DONT EVEN SEE HOW YOU MAKE SUCH ASSUMPTIONS. IM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN JUST LIKE YOU AND IVE PAID AND IM PAYING MY DUES INTO THE SYSTEM SOMEBODY GIVE YOU AN EMMY FOR THE TAXES THAT YOU PAY
roxy
QUOTE(garya505 @ Jan 8 2007, 12:59 AM) *
This is your brain on drugs girlwerewolf2xn.gif



THAT WAS COOL LIKED IT BUT I HOPE YOUR NOT SAYING I DO DRUGS TO. LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR TO EVERYONE THAT JUST BECAUSE HE DID I DO BECAUSE I DONT I MEAN I COULD ONLY IMAGINE WHAT MY POOR CHILD WOULD HAVE TO LIVE LIFE LIKE IF SHE HAD A MOTHER WHO WAS A DRUG ADDICT

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Alex+R
John yes, you've exercised your "American" right to run your self-righteous mouth. Now STFU.

OP--why are you standing by a man who knowingly destroyed your entire immigration process by smoking pot? I could not forgive this.
CarolineM
I'm with Alex...Did you say he doesn't treat you well or did Ir ead that wrong?
Traviesa
Roxy, the system definitely worked right in your case. I'm not going to coddle you at all, because we got the same ban that you did for something my husband did almost a decade ago, coupled with a mistake in judgment by a "panel physician" who is likely receiving some kind of kickback for every time they can call someone a drug addict, whether it be true or not. And my government, when given the opportunity to fix that mistake, decided not to. If your husband is currently smoking marijuana, he needs to stop immediately, seek counseling as well as a drug re-hab program, and have regular drug tests performed throughout the duration of the 3 years, so that he may present all of that evidence to the same physician he saw the first time, to show that he has been clean for 3 years. He can get this information at his local state-run medical center (I can't remember what they're called). If all that sounds extreme to you, imagine how we feel with my husband who hasn't used drugs since his mid-teenage years (and he's now almost 27); we are doing all of those things, for no other reason than to satisfy the requirements and to get his Visa after our 3 years are up. You may not file a Waiver for drug abuse. You will have to wait until the 3 years is up, go to his interview at that time, and file your I-601 Waiver. With any luck for you, by the time 3 years is up, either the processing times for Waivers will have gone way down or immigration reform will have passed eliminating the waiver from the process.
John and Sonya
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Jan 7 2007, 11:11 PM) *
John yes, you've exercised your "American" right to run your self-righteous mouth. Now STFU.

OP--why are you standing by a man who knowingly destroyed your entire immigration process by smoking pot? I could not forgive this.


You comment that I am self righteous, but you comment on it as well? I agree with your comment, but maybe you too need not express yourself and STFU. Neither of them have any respect for the law or consequences for breaking it. Read her profile, she tells her daughter that she cant see her daddy because of the president and the immigration laws!!! Be real! Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.
radacos
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 8 2007, 08:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Jan 7 2007, 11:11 PM) *
John yes, you've exercised your "American" right to run your self-righteous mouth. Now STFU.

OP--why are you standing by a man who knowingly destroyed your entire immigration process by smoking pot? I could not forgive this.


You comment that I am self righteous, but you comment on it as well? I agree with your comment, but maybe you too need not express yourself and STFU. Neither of them have any respect for the law or consequences for breaking it. Read her profile, she tells her daughter that she cant see her daddy because of the president and the immigration laws!!! Be real! Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.


DUde, she is not asking for loopholes! She wants to know what the *legal* steps are. I understand you feel strongly about drug use and illegal immigration, and you are absolutely entitled to. But surely you must also understand that she is frustrated because she cannot be with the one she loves. However you may feel about what you perceive as the "character" of her fiance, you are only likely to irritate and anger the OP by expressing you approval of the government process that is keeping them apart. And this only makes the OP disagree even more with your point of view -- which is poor rhetoric and probably not what you want.
kitkat1
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 8 2007, 07:11 PM) *
Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.


Again, he is NOT in the US. He was NOT deported. And yes, he was probably working illegally in the past, but again, given that USCIS forgives illegal work via marriage to a USC, this is NOT an issue in this case. You certainly have no proof that he didn't pay his taxes via an ITTN - which is legally available to anyone regardless of immigration status.

YES, he was RIGHTFULLY denied due to drug use. She is now simply trying to understand what the correct next steps are. He has three years to get through rehab and get his life back on track so he can be a father and wife. He will also have to file a waiver to forgive his illegal presence. He is doing everything he needs to do to straighten this out - why on earth do you have to continue to kick his wife when's she's already down?
bcartr
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 8 2007, 09:06 PM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 8 2007, 07:11 PM) *
Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.


Again, he is NOT in the US. He was NOT deported. And yes, he was probably working illegally in the past, but again, given that USCIS forgives illegal work via marriage to a USC, this is NOT an issue in this case. You certainly have no proof that he didn't pay his taxes via an ITTN - which is legally available to anyone regardless of immigration status.

YES, he was RIGHTFULLY denied due to drug use. She is now simply trying to understand what the correct next steps are. He has three years to get through rehab and get his life back on track so he can be a father and wife. He will also have to file a waiver to forgive his illegal presence. He is doing everything he needs to do to straighten this out - why on earth do you have to continue to kick his wife when's she's already down?



Why does she not move to Mexico?
Oh yeah Immigration is much stricter there.
Sorry, I am with John on this, 22 is not a child. phhh
But I also understand she is trying to figure out the next steps. Would moving to Mexico be the next step? Is she really going to wait 3 years and hope he is in Mexico getting rehab?
But reading the post got to me too. Cant help to vent.
kitkat1
QUOTE(bcartr @ Jan 8 2007, 11:47 PM) *
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 8 2007, 09:06 PM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 8 2007, 07:11 PM) *
Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.


Again, he is NOT in the US. He was NOT deported. And yes, he was probably working illegally in the past, but again, given that USCIS forgives illegal work via marriage to a USC, this is NOT an issue in this case. You certainly have no proof that he didn't pay his taxes via an ITTN - which is legally available to anyone regardless of immigration status.

YES, he was RIGHTFULLY denied due to drug use. She is now simply trying to understand what the correct next steps are. He has three years to get through rehab and get his life back on track so he can be a father and wife. He will also have to file a waiver to forgive his illegal presence. He is doing everything he needs to do to straighten this out - why on earth do you have to continue to kick his wife when's she's already down?



Why does she not move to Mexico?
Oh yeah Immigration is much stricter there.
Sorry, I am with John on this, 22 is not a child. phhh
But I also understand she is trying to figure out the next steps. Would moving to Mexico be the next step? Is she really going to wait 3 years and hope he is in Mexico getting rehab?
But reading the post got to me too. Cant help to vent.


Who knows - maybe she WILL move to Mexico during the three years. But in the meantime, she's just looking for some guidance.
bcartr
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 9 2007, 08:07 AM) *
Who knows - maybe she WILL move to Mexico during the three years. But in the meantime, she's just looking for some guidance.


Understood, here is some more guidance.

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/54929.html
roxy
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Jan 8 2007, 01:11 AM) *
John yes, you've exercised your "American" right to run your self-righteous mouth. Now STFU.

OP--why are you standing by a man who knowingly destroyed your entire immigration process by smoking pot? I could not forgive this.



YOUR RIGHT I ASK THAT MYSELF EVRYDAY. I guess only time will tell how my daughter will handle so i feel like if i have to for her?
roxy
QUOTE(CarolineM @ Jan 8 2007, 09:59 AM) *
I'm with Alex...Did you say he doesn't treat you well or did Ir ead that wrong?


No, you read it right thats another question I ask myself everday also after being with him for almost a decade it makes it hard to walk away no matter how much i want to. I'm hoping that he will wake up within the next three years.
roxy
QUOTE(Heina @ Jan 8 2007, 11:13 AM) *
Roxy, the system definitely worked right in your case. I'm not going to coddle you at all, because we got the same ban that you did for something my husband did almost a decade ago, coupled with a mistake in judgment by a "panel physician" who is likely receiving some kind of kickback for every time they can call someone a drug addict, whether it be true or not. And my government, when given the opportunity to fix that mistake, decided not to. If your husband is currently smoking marijuana, he needs to stop immediately, seek counseling as well as a drug re-hab program, and have regular drug tests performed throughout the duration of the 3 years, so that he may present all of that evidence to the same physician he saw the first time, to show that he has been clean for 3 years. He can get this information at his local state-run medical center (I can't remember what they're called). If all that sounds extreme to you, imagine how we feel with my husband who hasn't used drugs since his mid-teenage years (and he's now almost 27); we are doing all of those things, for no other reason than to satisfy the requirements and to get his Visa after our 3 years are up. You may not file a Waiver for drug abuse. You will have to wait until the 3 years is up, go to his interview at that time, and file your I-601 Waiver. With any luck for you, by the time 3 years is up, either the processing times for Waivers will have gone way down or immigration reform will have passed eliminating the waiver from the process.



your right and i wasn't looking for sympathy on that part at all what i meant by worthless is the time and money i invested into the whole process because it didnt work in my favor so it was the money and time that was the worthless part. it's not the systems fault why my husband made the choices he did and maybe god is doing me a favor by what happened but i just dont see it yet

QUOTE(Heina @ Jan 8 2007, 11:13 AM) *
Roxy, the system definitely worked right in your case. I'm not going to coddle you at all, because we got the same ban that you did for something my husband did almost a decade ago, coupled with a mistake in judgment by a "panel physician" who is likely receiving some kind of kickback for every time they can call someone a drug addict, whether it be true or not. And my government, when given the opportunity to fix that mistake, decided not to. If your husband is currently smoking marijuana, he needs to stop immediately, seek counseling as well as a drug re-hab program, and have regular drug tests performed throughout the duration of the 3 years, so that he may present all of that evidence to the same physician he saw the first time, to show that he has been clean for 3 years. He can get this information at his local state-run medical center (I can't remember what they're called). If all that sounds extreme to you, imagine how we feel with my husband who hasn't used drugs since his mid-teenage years (and he's now almost 27); we are doing all of those things, for no other reason than to satisfy the requirements and to get his Visa after our 3 years are up. You may not file a Waiver for drug abuse. You will have to wait until the 3 years is up, go to his interview at that time, and file your I-601 Waiver. With any luck for you, by the time 3 years is up, either the processing times for Waivers will have gone way down or immigration reform will have passed eliminating the waiver from the process.



I forgot to "thank you" for the info THANKS
roxy
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 8 2007, 09:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Jan 7 2007, 11:11 PM) *
John yes, you've exercised your "American" right to run your self-righteous mouth. Now STFU.

OP--why are you standing by a man who knowingly destroyed your entire immigration process by smoking pot? I could not forgive this.


You comment that I am self righteous, but you comment on it as well? I agree with your comment, but maybe you too need not express yourself and STFU. Neither of them have any respect for the law or consequences for breaking it. Read her profile, she tells her daughter that she cant see her daddy because of the president and the immigration laws!!! Be real! Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.



NO comment you dont know me i hope you read the replies ive posted
roxy
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 8 2007, 09:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Jan 7 2007, 11:11 PM) *
John yes, you've exercised your "American" right to run your self-righteous mouth. Now STFU.

OP--why are you standing by a man who knowingly destroyed your entire immigration process by smoking pot? I could not forgive this.


You comment that I am self righteous, but you comment on it as well? I agree with your comment, but maybe you too need not express yourself and STFU. Neither of them have any respect for the law or consequences for breaking it. Read her profile, she tells her daughter that she cant see her daddy because of the president and the immigration laws!!! Be real! Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.



WAS HERE HE'S NOT ANYMORE AND HE DID PAY TAXES AND WAS NEVER ABLE TO CLAIM ANY OF THEM BACK BECAUSE OF HIS SITUATION. It was his parents who made the decision for him not him. I don't think its fair to hold someone responsible for something that was out of their ( he was 7 when he came) control. I guess he just didnt have good role models to show him the proper way but if you've been parent you should understand that after kids turn about 13 they seem to think they know it all.

QUOTE(radacos @ Jan 8 2007, 11:45 PM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 8 2007, 08:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Jan 7 2007, 11:11 PM) *
John yes, you've exercised your "American" right to run your self-righteous mouth. Now STFU.

OP--why are you standing by a man who knowingly destroyed your entire immigration process by smoking pot? I could not forgive this.


You comment that I am self righteous, but you comment on it as well? I agree with your comment, but maybe you too need not express yourself and STFU. Neither of them have any respect for the law or consequences for breaking it. Read her profile, she tells her daughter that she cant see her daddy because of the president and the immigration laws!!! Be real! Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.


DUde, she is not asking for loopholes! She wants to know what the *legal* steps are. I understand you feel strongly about drug use and illegal immigration, and you are absolutely entitled to. But surely you must also understand that she is frustrated because she cannot be with the one she loves. However you may feel about what you perceive as the "character" of her fiance, you are only likely to irritate and anger the OP by expressing you approval of the government process that is keeping them apart. And this only makes the OP disagree even more with your point of view -- which is poor rhetoric and probably not what you want.


"NOT ASKING FOR LOOPHOLES" THANK YOU I'M GLAD THAT THE REST OF YOU GET IT
roxy
QUOTE(bcartr @ Jan 9 2007, 01:47 AM) *
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 8 2007, 09:06 PM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 8 2007, 07:11 PM) *
Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.


Again, he is NOT in the US. He was NOT deported. And yes, he was probably working illegally in the past, but again, given that USCIS forgives illegal work via marriage to a USC, this is NOT an issue in this case. You certainly have no proof that he didn't pay his taxes via an ITTN - which is legally available to anyone regardless of immigration status.

YES, he was RIGHTFULLY denied due to drug use. She is now simply trying to understand what the correct next steps are. He has three years to get through rehab and get his life back on track so he can be a father and wife. He will also have to file a waiver to forgive his illegal presence. He is doing everything he needs to do to straighten this out - why on earth do you have to continue to kick his wife when's she's already down?



Why does she not move to Mexico?
Oh yeah Immigration is much stricter there.
Sorry, I am with John on this, 22 is not a child. phhh
But I also understand she is trying to figure out the next steps. Would moving to Mexico be the next step? Is she really going to wait 3 years and hope he is in Mexico getting rehab?
But reading the post got to me too. Cant help to vent.


HE Thinks he's still a child i've been trying to explain to him that from the momment we decided to have our baby things changed. I mean i know for gods sake he's a grown man and i dont understand what in the world makes him think he's still a child. lets move now thinking about this is making me mad

i hope for the sake of his daughter he will stay clean and learn.

IM NOT GOING TO MEXICO MEXICO IS NO PLACE FOR ME and my daughterI HAVE MY MOM MY SISTERS are HERE. i know that with time this feeling of him not being here will ease but sometimes im to mad at him to even think about im not its about my and my daughters survival here.

Its ok i dont mind but i just dont like when john confuses me along with him im not asking for acceptances for what he did im asking to see what needs to be done next so that hopefully he will come back the right away and hopefully within the 3 years that hes been given and if not he'll have to wait it out

but everyone is right he needs to come back with the idea that the law is above him and not him above it



QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 9 2007, 11:07 AM) *
QUOTE(bcartr @ Jan 8 2007, 11:47 PM) *
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 8 2007, 09:06 PM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 8 2007, 07:11 PM) *
Now she is asking for loop holes and blaming everything and everyone but her husband selfish behavior. To add to it all, he is here illegally, working under the table and not paying taxes!!! We want this in our country? Righteous? If thats what you want to call it.


Again, he is NOT in the US. He was NOT deported. And yes, he was probably working illegally in the past, but again, given that USCIS forgives illegal work via marriage to a USC, this is NOT an issue in this case. You certainly have no proof that he didn't pay his taxes via an ITTN - which is legally available to anyone regardless of immigration status.

YES, he was RIGHTFULLY denied due to drug use. She is now simply trying to understand what the correct next steps are. He has three years to get through rehab and get his life back on track so he can be a father and wife. He will also have to file a waiver to forgive his illegal presence. He is doing everything he needs to do to straighten this out - why on earth do you have to continue to kick his wife when's she's already down?


right thank you
Why does she not move to Mexico?
Oh yeah Immigration is much stricter there.
Sorry, I am with John on this, 22 is not a child. phhh
But I also understand she is trying to figure out the next steps. Would moving to Mexico be the next step? Is she really going to wait 3 years and hope he is in Mexico getting rehab?
But reading the post got to me too. Cant help to vent.


Who knows - maybe she WILL move to Mexico during the three years. But in the meantime, she's just looking for some guidance.
roxy
QUOTE(bcartr @ Jan 9 2007, 12:23 PM) *
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 9 2007, 08:07 AM) *
Who knows - maybe she WILL move to Mexico during the three years. But in the meantime, she's just looking for some guidance.


Understood, here is some more guidance.

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/54929.html



THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPLIES I REALLY APPRECIATE IT FINDING THIS IS HELPING ME TO NOT FEEL SO LONELY
AND PUT SOME THINGS INTO PROSPECTIVE!




------------AND JOHN YOUR RIGHT IT IS A HORRIBLE THING FOR ME TO TELL MY DAUGHTER THAT ITS THE PRESIDENTS FAULT BUT I DONT TELL HER THAT EVRY TIME I SAID IT TO HER MAYBE ONCE BUT YOUR RIGHT I SHOULDN'T B/C THEN I MIGHT BE TEACHING HER TO HAVE NO REGARDS FOR AUTHORITY AND I SURELY DONT WANT HER THAT WAY ITS BEEN ENOUGH WITH HER FATHER I MEAN I DIDNT INTEND ON MAKING THAT MY EXPLANATION FOR EVERYTIME SHE ASKS MOSTLY I TELL HER THAT I WILL DO EVERYTHING WITHIN MY POWER TO BRING DADDY HOME AND HE WILL COME AS SOON AS HE CAN
em79sugar
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jan 7 2007, 10:39 AM) *
QUOTE(John and Sonya @ Jan 7 2007, 11:33 AM) *
I am not one to get on a soap box, but this really got me pissed off. This all started with her calling the process worthless, its not, IT WORKED!! It kept an undesirable out for three years. It is also obvious that he is an illegal alien as well as his parents. If I am wrong, then I appologize. So, illegal alien, probably him and his parents never paid taxes, used our over-exhausted system, uses drugs and everyone here thinks we should accept it, because its just a mistake and I should be tolerant. Dont think so. This country has a long list of people who want to enter here and be law abiding, taxing paying citizens. But we have many, like above who waste the quota space. The process worked, and she called it worthless????? I challenge her to post a forum and see how many LEGAL AMERICANS would support this or support a person who has no regard for the laws and proper immigration laws to allow them another chance and calls our system worthless.


OK - agreed. She called the system worthless when in fact it did exactly what it was supposed to do. No one said his situation should be accepted or even tolerated. But this was not a discussion about illegal aliens in the US. It was a request for assistance regarding the next steps to make things right.



I agree with both sides. I feel for her because she obviously is trying to follow the process and bring him over as a legal immigrant, unfortunately this young man should have known better to at least refrain from smoking when he knew his medical exam was approaching. They do give you SOME notice. maybe she needs to reconsider if she wants to be married to someone that would risk the chance of legally being reunited with his family to provide for them and live the "american dream". It seems to me as if she is doing most of the work to get him here and exhausting herself in the process. Unfortunately love is blind, but maybe she needs to think about the bigger picture. I do agree that the system did it's job, he was irresponsible, and she is requesting assistance and advice, so we should not take it out on her. Just be thankful that you have made it through most of this process and are able to be with the one you love. I can only imagine that this young woman has a lot harder times ahead of her.
Esperando enohio
I'm surprised nobody else has objected to the word "undesirable." I realize this is a very old post, but I just came across it and was struck by that word.

My husband, whom I met during a year doing volunteer work in Mexico, admitted to past marijuana use during his medical interview in Juarez. He is not nor has he ever been a drug addict or even a drug abuser, according to established professional guidelines regarding mental illness (I'm a mental health counselor licensed to diagnose drug abuse and addiction, just in case my opinion would be called into question). He was given a 3-year ban on his visa.

I finally managed to get him here last December and now he is a fully-functioning member of U.S. society, and he pays taxes (which JohnandSonya obviously hold in much esteem) just like everyone else.

He could have been going to college and contributing to this society, including as a taxpayer, for the past four years, instead of wasting time in Mexico and being separated from his wife for the duration of that ban.

My husband has made his share of mistakes, just like everyone else has, but I defy anyone to refer to him as "undesirable," especially some faceless presence on a message board who has never met him.

Additionally, I am fairly certain that the percentage of immigrants issued visas to live in this country who have never broken a single law nor committed a single sin nor made a single bad decision is very small, whether they admit to those crimes/sins/mistakes during their interviews or not (let he who has committed no sins cast the first stone, etc. etc.).

One more thing to consider - visa applicants who have been convicted of selling drugs in their own countries are eligible for a 601 waiver, thereby reducing their bans and allowing them to enter the U.S. sooner if their waivers are approved. Applicants who admit to using drugs, even recreationally on a few isolated occasions (such as my husband) are not eligible for such a waiver. Speaking of "undesirables."
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