treed44812
Dec 25 2006, 01:33 PM
After all the long waiting and other things with getting my former fiancee here, i learned last night she has been living a double life with another guy in Taiwan.
Therefore, I need some advice....
She is in the US, arrived earlier this month and supposedly was going to Cali to visit family. Well, apparently, the family she mentioned was the other boyfriend and I found out about it yesterday.
What are my next steps? I plan to call INS and speak to them about it..... am I financially liable for her? I woudl think that if she has left me for another man, she is outside the parameters of her K1 visa, and more than likely has comitted visa fraud.
Thoughts???
brnidokiegurl
Dec 25 2006, 01:35 PM
tHINK TOMORROW MORING MY FIRST CALL WOULD BE TO A LAWYER Sorry
Lizzy
Dec 25 2006, 01:38 PM
Firstly what a horrible thing to find out and secondly, the day before Christmas:(
I would call the INS and talk to them about the situation.
Are you planning asking her to leave?
If i where you (famous last words) i would not go through with the marriage.
If i remember correctly if you do not follow through with the marriage, she has to leave after 90 days and you do NOT have to pay her anything.
Best of luck in what is a crappy situation.
Mr and Mrs Bird
Dec 25 2006, 01:41 PM
Oh my gosh
How can a person fake so much.
I can't hardly believe it.
Yes you really have to consult a professionel person.
I am so sorry for you in this bad situation.
Sweeties
TucsonBill
Dec 25 2006, 01:44 PM
What a nasty trick! Thats lower than pond scum!! Don't fall for it again is all I can say... I'd definately report her for immigration fraud. You might even play along with her game so she won't have the chance to run and hide. I would call Immigration Customs Enforcement (ICE) at 1-866-347-2423 first thing tomorrow.
Bill
payxibka
Dec 25 2006, 01:47 PM
QUOTE(treed44812 @ Dec 25 2006, 12:33 PM)

After all the long waiting and other things with getting my former fiancee here, i learned last night she has been living a double life with another guy in Taiwan.
Therefore, I need some advice....
She is in the US, arrived earlier this month and supposedly was going to Cali to visit family. Well, apparently, the family she mentioned was the other boyfriend and I found out about it yesterday.
What are my next steps? I plan to call INS and speak to them about it..... am I financially liable for her? I woudl think that if she has left me for another man, she is outside the parameters of her K1 visa, and more than likely has comitted visa fraud.
Thoughts???
While I do not think there is technically anything you need to do, I will agree with the others that a consultation with a competent immigration attorney will be your best course of action.
She cannot adjust status from her K-1 without you. So if she is so inclined to try to adjust status with the other guy, let her try and she will fail.
Are you financially liable for her? That is the true unknown. Did you submit an I-134? My gut says no.... but that is a question to be answered by legal representation. The I-134 is not as near a potentially damming document as the I-864.
Nad
Dec 25 2006, 02:05 PM
i can feel its hard and horrible on you. before you think to call the immigration, try to be ready what the things you need to provide for the immigration to prove for them for your story. i think they will need from you to prove it for them and they might tell you what they need. maybe you can call those free consultation lawyers on the phone who wont give much but after calling few of them you can cover the whole story.
be strong and above the situation dont let it affect you.
TucsonBill
Dec 25 2006, 02:13 PM
Personally, I think the lawyer would be a waste of time, unless you happen to get lucky and find one that has dealt with this exact situation before. You don't see this kind of thing here in this forum often, and I read most of the posts. Hopefully someone with a similar situation may be able to advise you, but I think most people who have this kind of thing happen drop off this forum. I hope you'll stick around and let us know what happens, I really do. I'd like to see a person like this get deported, and a permanent ban from the US.
If this other relationship with the other guy was in Taiwan, how did he get here? I understand you to say she's with him in California? This part has me a little confused. Also, did you meet her family, mom, dad, brothers, sisters... these aleged relatives in California? What do they think of her behavior?
I gota run now. Sorry your Christmas has turned out to be such a miserable day, but you have to look at the bright side I guess, is all you can do...
My understanding is that the I-134 is not legally binding, and if she does not marry you within 90 days, then her visa expires and she becomes an illegal. Just be thankful you did not marry her and file the I-864 for the AOS because then you might really be on the hook.
Bill
walls1010
Dec 25 2006, 02:22 PM
Sorry to hear your story. Don't marry her and report for immigration fraud.
andrew va thuy
Dec 25 2006, 02:29 PM
If you do or dont report her, she will be deported. Her visa is only for her to marry you.
If you report this treachory to the INS it will do 2 things:
1.) bar her for some time to entry to the US ( she deserves that )
2.) Clear your name in case you at sometime later have an engagement to someone who needs a K-1 visa
Actually it is better to have found out this now as opposed to have gone through a marriage and then have her run off - either now or after waiting 2 years.

One dishonest person. Look forward to the future, there are honest people out there. Best Wishes.
charles!
Dec 25 2006, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(treed44812 @ Dec 25 2006, 12:33 PM)

After all the long waiting and other things with getting my former fiancee here, i learned last night she has been living a double life with another guy in Taiwan.
Therefore, I need some advice....
She is in the US, arrived earlier this month and supposedly was going to Cali to visit family. Well, apparently, the family she mentioned was the other boyfriend and I found out about it yesterday.
What are my next steps? I plan to call INS and speak to them about it..... am I financially liable for her? I woudl think that if she has left me for another man, she is outside the parameters of her K1 visa, and more than likely has comitted visa fraud.
Thoughts???
now that is what i'd call a crappy christmas present.
no you are not financially responsible for her as you are not married yet, the i-864 would have made you financially responsible for her (as tucson bill mentioned) but that is part of the aos package. the i-134 is meaningless in regards to financial support.
one suggestion i've not seen above is changing the locks and also reviewing if she has any important financial info of yours - credit card numbers, bank account numbers, etc. if she does, you should contact the credit agencies and your bank to let them know of possible fraudulent charges and it would not be a bad idea to get new accounts too. you have to protect yourself now. others might jump me for this but if she has anything still there, time to pack it up and move it out to another location - if you live in an apartment, see if you can get the manager to keep the boxes for her when/if she returns. also let the manager and (if not in an apartment) your neighbors know (if they did know about your relationship prior to this) the reader's digest condensed version of what has transpired so if they see her hanging around they can contact the police. she has no further reason to be there imo.
i don't think you need to consult with an attorney about this as you are not married. but getting in touch with uscis and letting them know what is going on is a must. also, andrew has a good point - you must clear your name should you ever do another k-1.
one thing not mentioned in the op - how did she get to cali? did she fly or drive? if drive, was it your car or a rental or what?
my sympathies for what has transpired yesterday. i had a similar situation with a g/f who pulled the same thing about 5 years ago - christmas with relatives, out with another guy instead. i really do feel your pain. best wishes and hope you have a better new year.
p.s. there is a bright side - that she pulled this prior to you two getting married.
Pam&Mbaye
Dec 25 2006, 06:33 PM
I am so sorry to hear of your misfortune. Although you may not appreciate it at this moment, at least you weren't married when you found out about her double life. I think if you look at some of the forum archives you might find an answer about whether you are financially responsible for her. I am almost sure I have read something similar happening to someone else on here and the answer was that the wording on the I-134 is ambiguous and therefore not binding as with the I-864. I'm not quite sure. Sorry I couldn't be of more help but research the forum and the best of luck to you.
I just read Charles and Nessa's response after having posted mine so disregard the part about someone posting concerning this issue.
Maggie724
Dec 25 2006, 07:12 PM
Looks like you already have plenty of advice. All I can say is sorry to hear that you have to deal with that at all, let alone during the holidays. I cannot imagine going through all this work and emotion, to have it backfire like that. I hope you find the support you need to get through this, and follow through at your first possible moment to cancel/void the visa and get her sorry behind headed back acrossed the water.
Hugs,
Boiler
Dec 26 2006, 12:44 AM
I doubt that you could substantiate Visa fraud.
Assuming that you do not wish to marry her, as would seem likely, then just withdraw your petition.
She has a valid I-94 for 90 days. Her chances of being deported after that are remote to say the least, unless she is really stupid.
Nothing a lawyer can do, nothing you can do, forget it and move on.
'my_destiny'
Dec 26 2006, 04:57 AM
Oh..Im so sorry to hear bout your relationship. YOu should not marry this kind of girl because of all those time, it means that she been lying to you and not being honest with you..how much more if you are married already. I guess, she just use you to come to the USA and maybe, her boyfriend knows it too. Im sorry about my words, but I really hate those girls doing that to men who love them unconditionally and yet, they did not return the real love this man deserve. She must deport now.
If you didnt marry her for 90 days, and you make a statement your reason of not marrying her, then, it will be file for her in her country that if ever she have a victim again, and petition her, then the US embassy in her country will trace her case.
See her "family" and talk to her.
I hope everything will be ok after this.
diadromous mermaid
Dec 26 2006, 07:41 AM
QUOTE(Boiler @ Dec 26 2006, 12:44 AM)

I doubt that you could substantiate Visa fraud.
Assuming that you do not wish to marry her, as would seem likely, then just withdraw your petition.
She has a valid I-94 for 90 days. Her chances of being deported after that are remote to say the least, unless she is really stupid.
Nothing a lawyer can do, nothing you can do, forget it and move on.
Agreed. After an investment of time and effort by the OP only to be given a rude awakening, it's best to do what is necessary and then concentrate on healing from the betrayal rather than on hoping to see some sort of aggressive action on the part of DHS. Inform ICE of your suspicions, if you wish, but you should very definitely request in writing that any petition submitted on her behalf to USCIS be withdrawn and let the chips fall where they may.
Bets of luck to you!
treed44812
Dec 26 2006, 09:58 AM
Here is the update on everything:
ICE and USCIS both were interested in hearing about my case, but that was about it. Until her 90 days is up, she is here legally without any implications.
Her family has received an email from me concerning her actions, kindly worded and informative.
It's a new day, and now it is time to move on and put my life back in order.....
TucsonBill
Dec 26 2006, 11:53 AM
I'd still be interested in knowing, what, if anything happens after the 90 days. As I understand it, ICE does not typically release information about particular cases. I think if I were you i'd try to stay envolved, perhaps even feign yourself as a naive cuckold, even pretending to be trying to 'win her back', just to be able to stay in touch and see what happens.
I wouldn't give up, I'd want to see her prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If the ICE 800 number does not help, I'd try the local customs enforcement office and try to win someone over to my side.
What ever you do, I hope you'll keep us updated should anything transpire.
Best of luck to you.
Bill
Moonie
Dec 27 2006, 08:43 PM
Thank God you did not marry her.
MichelleandCraig
Dec 28 2006, 07:04 AM
QUOTE(TucsonBill @ Dec 26 2006, 10:53 AM)

I'd still be interested in knowing, what, if anything happens after the 90 days. As I understand it, ICE does not typically release information about particular cases. I think if I were you i'd try to stay envolved, perhaps even feign yourself as a naive cuckold, even pretending to be trying to 'win her back', just to be able to stay in touch and see what happens.
I wouldn't give up, I'd want to see her prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If the ICE 800 number does not help, I'd try the local customs enforcement office and try to win someone over to my side.
What ever you do, I hope you'll keep us updated should anything transpire.
Best of luck to you.
Bill
IMO, if she intentionally did this, (and that's definitely what it sounds like) then I doubt she'd fall for the 'trying to be won back' bit. She likely knew that as long as she could get in, nothing much would happen after that. All that *does* happen is that she starts accruing time out of status after the 90 days are up. That's it, and nothing more. She could be anywhere in the US after that time, and the USCIS doesn't have time to track people down like that, generally speaking. (For crying out loud, look how long petitions take to get adjudicated!) No disrespect to you, Bill, but what good is keeping the OPs life in a jumble trying to get revenge going to do him? I agree with the others in saying his time would be better spent recovering from this mess and finding someone deserving of him.
Anyway, I'm really sorry to read your story, and all the best in moving on with your life.

M.
moelarrycheese
Jan 12 2007, 01:46 PM
Don't let her back in the house. She could make a false charge of abuse and have you removed from your home, and then use the false charges to support an AOS based on spousal abuse. If she has no place to go, send her to her embassy. She is not your problem any longer.
Rob and Melinda
Mar 7 2007, 12:25 AM
Report it ASAP and you should be able to stop the process and not be liable from that point on.
Rob
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