A quick one that I can't seem to find an answer to. I think I already know the answer but I may be confusing things I've read about I-864 and I-134.
Last year my mother filed me as a dependent. I was not fully dependent on her-- I made my own money, but have been living with her, and I did not make enough to file my own taxes, so it was suggested she file with me as a dependent. Next year, she will not be doing so.
As she is cosponsoring my fiance, we are unsure how this adds up in calculating our household size. Do I count toward it as a dependent, as I *was* on last years taxes as so, or since I am no longer as of filling out these papers being considered dependent at this moment?
My gut feeling is that as question 8 doesn't mention *anything* about last years tax forms (let alone anything about taxes), that I would not be listed there, but I figure it is worth verifying, rather than assuming and finding out we are under the poverty line for 3 people, but above it for 2, and having this brought up as a problem at the interview.
As usual, thanks to everyone who can help me out here, and I apologize if this has been posted elsewhere and I missed it in my searches.
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QUOTE(jezebelseven @ Dec 5 2006, 06:58 PM) 
A quick one that I can't seem to find an answer to. I think I already know the answer but I may be confusing things I've read about I-864 and I-134.
Last year my mother filed me as a dependent. I was not fully dependent on her-- I made my own money, but have been living with her, and I did not make enough to file my own taxes, so it was suggested she file with me as a dependent. Next year, she will not be doing so.
As she is cosponsoring my fiance, we are unsure how this adds up in calculating our household size. Do I count toward it as a dependent, as I *was* on last years taxes as so, or since I am no longer as of filling out these papers being considered dependent at this moment?
My gut feeling is that as question 8 doesn't mention *anything* about last years tax forms (let alone anything about taxes), that I would not be listed there, but I figure it is worth verifying, rather than assuming and finding out we are under the poverty line for 3 people, but above it for 2, and having this brought up as a problem at the interview.
As usual, thanks to everyone who can help me out here, and I apologize if this has been posted elsewhere and I missed it in my searches.
Total household size is just that. If you are counted as a dependent then you should not be counted again. In any case, if it is you, your fiancee and your mom the household size is 3
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Dec 5 2006, 08:02 PM)
Total household size is just that. If you are counted as a dependent then you should not be counted again. In any case, if it is you, your fiancee and your mom the household size is 3
I *was* counted as a dependent but am *no longer* dependent. It was my understanding my the household size in regards to the poverty guidelines should only count those in the household that WILL BE dependent when papers are filed, IE, my mother (herself), and my fiance. Unless this is based purely on what last years tax statements say...
Where on the I-134 do you see the mention of household size?
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Dec 5 2006, 10:05 PM)
Where on the I-134 do you see the mention of household size?
I was under the impression that they (at the embassy) compared the income that was listed on the form (question 7) to the household size list (determined, I assumed, by questions 3 and 8) and poverty income guidelines... Is this not the case?
QUOTE(jezebelseven @ Dec 5 2006, 08:30 PM)
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Dec 5 2006, 08:02 PM)
Total household size is just that. If you are counted as a dependent then you should not be counted again. In any case, if it is you, your fiancee and your mom the household size is 3
I *was* counted as a dependent but am *no longer* dependent. It was my understanding my the household size in regards to the poverty guidelines should only count those in the household that WILL BE dependent when papers are filed, IE, my mother (herself), and my fiance. Unless this is based purely on what last years tax statements say...
Why do you not include yourself? I am confused.....
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Dec 5 2006, 11:27 PM)
QUOTE(jezebelseven @ Dec 5 2006, 08:30 PM)
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Dec 5 2006, 08:02 PM)
Total household size is just that. If you are counted as a dependent then you should not be counted again. In any case, if it is you, your fiancee and your mom the household size is 3
I *was* counted as a dependent but am *no longer* dependent. It was my understanding my the household size in regards to the poverty guidelines should only count those in the household that WILL BE dependent when papers are filed, IE, my mother (herself), and my fiance. Unless this is based purely on what last years tax statements say...
Why do you not include yourself? I am confused.....
I assume I shouldn't be included because I am no longer dependent, and the question asks for dependents, as rebeccajo mentioned, it does not mention household size in any way.
Looking at my mothers tax forms from 2005 (thanks again rebeccajo!), it looks like this isn't as much of an issue as I was concerned about, but I guess I am still curious as to whether or not I should be putting my name in that box. I don't want to leave it out and cause questions when it is cross referenced with the tax forms of last year, but I don't want to include it if it doesn't belong there.
jezebelseven,
Interesting question. Now is not then, but a connection is easy to make when historical information and current information are both asked for.
In any event, if you are not now your mother's dependent then the answer to the question is clear and the explanation is simple.
Yodrak
Interesting question. Now is not then, but a connection is easy to make when historical information and current information are both asked for.
In any event, if you are not now your mother's dependent then the answer to the question is clear and the explanation is simple.
Yodrak
QUOTE(jezebelseven @ Dec 5 2006, 10:28 PM)
A quick one that I can't seem to find an answer to. I think I already know the answer but I may be confusing things I've read about I-864 and I-134.
Last year my mother filed me as a dependent. I was not fully dependent on her-- I made my own money, but have been living with her, and I did not make enough to file my own taxes, so it was suggested she file with me as a dependent. Next year, she will not be doing so.
As she is cosponsoring my fiance, we are unsure how this adds up in calculating our household size. Do I count toward it as a dependent, as I *was* on last years taxes as so, or since I am no longer as of filling out these papers being considered dependent at this moment?
My gut feeling is that as question 8 doesn't mention *anything* about last years tax forms (let alone anything about taxes), that I would not be listed there, but I figure it is worth verifying, rather than assuming and finding out we are under the poverty line for 3 people, but above it for 2, and having this brought up as a problem at the interview.
As usual, thanks to everyone who can help me out here, and I apologize if this has been posted elsewhere and I missed it in my searches.
Last year my mother filed me as a dependent. I was not fully dependent on her-- I made my own money, but have been living with her, and I did not make enough to file my own taxes, so it was suggested she file with me as a dependent. Next year, she will not be doing so.
As she is cosponsoring my fiance, we are unsure how this adds up in calculating our household size. Do I count toward it as a dependent, as I *was* on last years taxes as so, or since I am no longer as of filling out these papers being considered dependent at this moment?
My gut feeling is that as question 8 doesn't mention *anything* about last years tax forms (let alone anything about taxes), that I would not be listed there, but I figure it is worth verifying, rather than assuming and finding out we are under the poverty line for 3 people, but above it for 2, and having this brought up as a problem at the interview.
As usual, thanks to everyone who can help me out here, and I apologize if this has been posted elsewhere and I missed it in my searches.
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