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charles!
any answers?
Jenn!
Is the U.S. a Christian country?
charles!
QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *

Is the U.S. a Christian country?

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Jenn!
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:32 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *

Is the U.S. a Christian country?

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It's not off-topic. The answer to my question is the same as my answer to the topic question.
limah
Good question. Looking forward to responses. My grandfather would love this conversation... He just bought a book about this......... the things that make you go hhmmmmmm........

It wouldnt be muslims would it? Nah

How about the religon? hhmm

The way of life?

Maybe all of the above? Or none?

Don't make me call my gramps......
charles!
QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:34 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:32 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *

Is the U.S. a Christian country?

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It's not off-topic. The answer to my question is the same as my answer to the topic question.

here is what prompted me to start this thread. it has zippo to do with the usa. i'm curious what the answers are.

QUOTE(peezey @ Dec 1 2006, 12:20 PM) *

QUOTE(wife_of_mahmoud @ Dec 1 2006, 12:40 PM) *


But I wouldn't exactly characterize Lebanon as a "Muslim" country. It has a sizeable and powerful Christian minority, and the Lebanese legal system is based on a mixture of Ottoman law, canon law, Napoleonic code, and civil law. Lebanon has no official state religion, nor does it recognize sharia as a source of legislation.

Anyway, I stand by what I've said -- in an actual "Muslim" country (meaning one with Islamic law) there is no way a group of guys would be doing this on a public street. I say this for a reason -- in many Muslim countries they could face arrest for such behavior, and even passers-by would likely beat them.



I guess we need to start a new thread to discuss what makes a Muslim country a Muslim country, because under your standards, Morocco isn't one. Because they use a combination of French provincial law and sharia, you shold definitely inform 99% of the population they do not live in a Muslim country. Then we'd have to move on to Indonesia, Bangladesh, and even India.

brad836
A muslim country is a country that has its laws based on some degree of shariah and the majority of the population is muslim.
Jenn!
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:34 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:32 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *

Is the U.S. a Christian country?

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It's not off-topic. The answer to my question is the same as my answer to the topic question.

here is what prompted me to start this thread. it has zippo to do with the usa. i'm curious what the answers are.


Is the U.S. a Christian country? Yes, the majority of Americans are Christian. No, we have separation of church and state.

Isn't this just a semantic question?

Is there a difference between a Muslim country and an Islamic state?
charles!
QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:59 PM) *


Is there a difference between a Muslim country and an Islamic state?

i have no idea. you tell me.
brad836
Unfortunately I think it's important to understand that currently no true muslim country exists. Even in countries that many might consider to be very islamic in the western world, in reality, in many areas of the local culture nothing can be further from the truth.
peezey
QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 01:59 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:34 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:32 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *

Is the U.S. a Christian country?

offtopic45vn.gif tongue.gif


It's not off-topic. The answer to my question is the same as my answer to the topic question.

here is what prompted me to start this thread. it has zippo to do with the usa. i'm curious what the answers are.


Is the U.S. a Christian country? Yes, the majority of Americans are Christian. No, we have separation of church and state.

Isn't this just a semantic question?

Is there a difference between a Muslim country and an Islamic state?


There was an opinion in the other thread that Lebanon isn't a Muslim country b/c 40% of the population is Christian, the law is a combination of sharia & tribal law, and the government allows equal representation to all religious groups.

So, what makes a Muslim country a Muslim country? I guess I didn't realize there were opposing views on this.
charles!
QUOTE(peezey @ Dec 1 2006, 01:09 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 01:59 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:34 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:32 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *

Is the U.S. a Christian country?

offtopic45vn.gif tongue.gif


It's not off-topic. The answer to my question is the same as my answer to the topic question.

here is what prompted me to start this thread. it has zippo to do with the usa. i'm curious what the answers are.


Is the U.S. a Christian country? Yes, the majority of Americans are Christian. No, we have separation of church and state.

Isn't this just a semantic question?

Is there a difference between a Muslim country and an Islamic state?


There was an opinion in the other thread that Lebanon isn't a Muslim country b/c 40% of the population is Christian, the law is a combination of sharia & tribal law, and the government allows equal representation to all religious groups.

So, what makes a Muslim country a Muslim country? I guess I didn't realize there were opposing views on this.

i'm quite curious too about what makes it. i guess i'm gonna never know sad.gif
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 11:16 AM) *

QUOTE(peezey @ Dec 1 2006, 01:09 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 01:59 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:34 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 01:32 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *

Is the U.S. a Christian country?

offtopic45vn.gif tongue.gif


It's not off-topic. The answer to my question is the same as my answer to the topic question.

here is what prompted me to start this thread. it has zippo to do with the usa. i'm curious what the answers are.


Is the U.S. a Christian country? Yes, the majority of Americans are Christian. No, we have separation of church and state.

Isn't this just a semantic question?

Is there a difference between a Muslim country and an Islamic state?


There was an opinion in the other thread that Lebanon isn't a Muslim country b/c 40% of the population is Christian, the law is a combination of sharia & tribal law, and the government allows equal representation to all religious groups.

So, what makes a Muslim country a Muslim country? I guess I didn't realize there were opposing views on this.

i'm quite curious too about what makes it. i guess i'm gonna never know sad.gif


I don't think there are any set guidelines and all you will get here are opinions. star_smile.gif
charles!
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Dec 1 2006, 01:18 PM) *


I don't think there are any set guidelines and all you will get here are opinions. star_smile.gif

it's kinda like a date when i was 16.........something is better than nothing tongue.gif
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 11:20 AM) *

QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Dec 1 2006, 01:18 PM) *


I don't think there are any set guidelines and all you will get here are opinions. star_smile.gif

it's kinda like a date when i was 16.........something is better than nothing tongue.gif


Charles! Why did Nessa take down the wedding photos?
charles!
QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Dec 1 2006, 01:21 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 11:20 AM) *

QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Dec 1 2006, 01:18 PM) *


I don't think there are any set guidelines and all you will get here are opinions. star_smile.gif

it's kinda like a date when i was 16.........something is better than nothing tongue.gif


Charles! Why did Nessa take down the wedding photos?

offtopic45vn.gif privacy concerns. but if you'd like i can always put up several dozen pics of me for you to drool over Off-Topic2.gif
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 11:26 AM) *

QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Dec 1 2006, 01:21 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 11:20 AM) *

QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Dec 1 2006, 01:18 PM) *


I don't think there are any set guidelines and all you will get here are opinions. star_smile.gif

it's kinda like a date when i was 16.........something is better than nothing tongue.gif


Charles! Why did Nessa take down the wedding photos?

offtopic45vn.gif privacy concerns. but if you'd like i can always put up several dozen pics of me for you to drool over Off-Topic2.gif



Well I did manage to get a peek before you did and they were very beautiful. Congrats! star_smile.gif
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 11:26 AM) *

QUOTE(sarah and hicham @ Dec 1 2006, 01:21 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 11:20 AM) *

QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Dec 1 2006, 01:18 PM) *


I don't think there are any set guidelines and all you will get here are opinions. star_smile.gif

it's kinda like a date when i was 16.........something is better than nothing tongue.gif


Charles! Why did Nessa take down the wedding photos?

offtopic45vn.gif privacy concerns. but if you'd like i can always put up several dozen pics of me for you to drool over Off-Topic2.gif


woohooo please do! What kind of privacy issues? I think everyone already saw and saved the pictures anyways!
noura
[quote name='sarah and hicham' date='Dec 1 2006, 01:28 PM' post='598359']
Charles! Why did Nessa take down the wedding photos?
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offtopic45vn.gif privacy concerns. but if you'd like i can always put up several dozen pics of me for you to drool over Off-Topic2.gif
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woohooo please do! What kind of privacy issues? I think everyone already saw and saved the pictures anyways!
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I didn't see them.... do share, Sarah... ur holding out on the wedding of the month??? c'mon!
sarah and hicham
[quote name='noura' date='Dec 1 2006, 11:35 AM' post='598374']
[quote name='sarah and hicham' date='Dec 1 2006, 01:28 PM' post='598359']
Charles! Why did Nessa take down the wedding photos?
[/quote]
offtopic45vn.gif privacy concerns. but if you'd like i can always put up several dozen pics of me for you to drool over Off-Topic2.gif
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woohooo please do! What kind of privacy issues? I think everyone already saw and saved the pictures anyways!
[/quote]
I didn't see them.... do share, Sarah... ur holding out on the wedding of the month??? c'mon!
[/quote]

Oh yeah I've got them saved on my computer. Are you kidding me? Charles and Nessa finally post their pictures of their wedding and you better believe I saved them all!
Virtual wife
QUOTE(brad836 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:08 PM) *

Unfortunately I think it's important to understand that currently no true muslim country exists. Even in countries that many might consider to be very islamic in the western world, in reality, in many areas of the local culture nothing can be further from the truth.



"Muslim" does not equal "Islamic".

I'd say that a Muslim country is one where the majority of the population considers itself to be Muslim, where Islam isn't "that other, lesser religion", and where worship and norms defined by Islam are predominant, whether engaged in my all or not, it is "Muslim" enough for me.
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(szsz @ Dec 1 2006, 11:49 AM) *

QUOTE(brad836 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:08 PM) *

Unfortunately I think it's important to understand that currently no true muslim country exists. Even in countries that many might consider to be very islamic in the western world, in reality, in many areas of the local culture nothing can be further from the truth.



"Muslim" does not equal "Islamic".

I'd say that a Muslim country is one where the majority of the population considers itself to be Muslim, where Islam isn't "that other, lesser religion", and where worship and norms defined by Islam are predominant, whether engaged in my all or not, it is "Muslim" enough for me.



I agree.
charles!
QUOTE(noura @ Dec 1 2006, 01:35 PM) *


I didn't see them.... do share, Sarah... ur holding out on the wedding of the month??? c'mon!

http://www.visajourney.com/gallery/display...0&uid=20969
there is one.
now back to topic, shall we?
sarah and hicham
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 11:53 AM) *

QUOTE(noura @ Dec 1 2006, 01:35 PM) *


I didn't see them.... do share, Sarah... ur holding out on the wedding of the month??? c'mon!

http://www.visajourney.com/gallery/display...0&uid=20969
there is one.
now back to topic, shall we?

Oh yeah that one is good, but I have the ones with Charles and Nessa getting married.
doodlebug
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Dec 1 2006, 02:53 PM) *

QUOTE(noura @ Dec 1 2006, 01:35 PM) *


I didn't see them.... do share, Sarah... ur holding out on the wedding of the month??? c'mon!

http://www.visajourney.com/gallery/display...0&uid=20969
there is one.
now back to topic, shall we?


Very pretty Charles! good.gif
mybackpages
QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Is the U.S. a Christian country?




This is the best answer offered thus far. good.gif

peezey
QUOTE(szsz @ Dec 1 2006, 02:49 PM) *

QUOTE(brad836 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:08 PM) *

Unfortunately I think it's important to understand that currently no true muslim country exists. Even in countries that many might consider to be very islamic in the western world, in reality, in many areas of the local culture nothing can be further from the truth.



"Muslim" does not equal "Islamic".

I'd say that a Muslim country is one where the majority of the population considers itself to be Muslim, where Islam isn't "that other, lesser religion", and where worship and norms defined by Islam are predominant, whether engaged in my all or not, it is "Muslim" enough for me.


I agree.

QUOTE(mybackpages @ Dec 1 2006, 03:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Is the U.S. a Christian country?




This is the best answer offered thus far. good.gif


I'd say there is no question the US is a Judeo-Christian country, which puts me in the religious minority in my country.
wife_of_mahmoud
QUOTE(peezey @ Dec 1 2006, 03:09 PM) *

There was an opinion in the other thread that Lebanon isn't a Muslim country b/c 40% of the population is Christian, the law is a combination of sharia & tribal law, and the government allows equal representation to all religious groups.



But that's NOT what I said. Let me quote here:

QUOTE(wife_of_mahmoud @ Nov 30 2006, 11:38 PM) *

But I wouldn't exactly characterize Lebanon as a "Muslim" country. It has a sizeable and powerful Christian minority, and the Lebanese legal system is based on a mixture of Ottoman law, canon law, Napoleonic code, and civil law. Lebanon has no official state religion, nor does it recognize sharia as a source of legislation.


and I didn't say Lebanon allows "equal representation to all religious groups." I said:

QUOTE(wife_of_mahmoud @ Dec 1 2006, 02:53 PM) *

Also, Morocco does not have a sizeable minority of non-Muslims -- only about 1% of Morocco’s population is Christian, and only about .02% are Jewish. But in Lebanon, nearly 40% of the population is Christian, and by law, Christians are guaranteed a certain amount of representation in the Lebanese government.


I'd say these were both pretty good answers to the question of what makes a country a "Muslim country":

QUOTE(brad836 @ Dec 1 2006, 02:52 PM) *

A muslim country is a country that has its laws based on some degree of shariah and the majority of the population is muslim.


QUOTE(szsz @ Dec 1 2006, 03:49 PM) *

I'd say that a Muslim country is one where the majority of the population considers itself to be Muslim, where Islam isn't "that other, lesser religion", and where worship and norms defined by Islam are predominant, whether engaged in my all or not, it is "Muslim" enough for me.
peezey
QUOTE(wife_of_mahmoud @ Dec 1 2006, 04:41 PM) *

QUOTE(peezey @ Dec 1 2006, 03:09 PM) *

There was an opinion in the other thread that Lebanon isn't a Muslim country b/c 40% of the population is Christian, the law is a combination of sharia & tribal law, and the government allows equal representation to all religious groups.



But that's NOT what I said. Let me quote here:

QUOTE(wife_of_mahmoud @ Nov 30 2006, 11:38 PM) *

But I wouldn't exactly characterize Lebanon as a "Muslim" country. It has a sizeable and powerful Christian minority, and the Lebanese legal system is based on a mixture of Ottoman law, canon law, Napoleonic code, and civil law. Lebanon has no official state religion, nor does it recognize sharia as a source of legislation.


and I didn't say Lebanon allows "equal representation to all religious groups." I said:

QUOTE(wife_of_mahmoud @ Dec 1 2006, 02:53 PM) *

Also, Morocco does not have a sizeable minority of non-Muslims -- only about 1% of Morocco’s population is Christian, and only about .02% are Jewish. But in Lebanon, nearly 40% of the population is Christian, and by law, Christians are guaranteed a certain amount of representation in the Lebanese government.





You're right, I should have used "proportional" instead of "equal" to make the statment most accurate. Proportional=equal based on % of citizens in that group. I don't see much of a difference.

Ok, so you wouldn't characterize Lebanon as a Muslim country or you would? Since the majority population is Muslim and there is sharia law as part of its national law.
mybackpages
QUOTE(peezey @ Dec 1 2006, 03:01 PM) *
QUOTE(szsz @ Dec 1 2006, 02:49 PM) *

QUOTE(brad836 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:08 PM) *

Unfortunately I think it's important to understand that currently no true muslim country exists. Even in countries that many might consider to be very islamic in the western world, in reality, in many areas of the local culture nothing can be further from the truth.



"Muslim" does not equal "Islamic".

I'd say that a Muslim country is one where the majority of the population considers itself to be Muslim, where Islam isn't "that other, lesser religion", and where worship and norms defined by Islam are predominant, whether engaged in my all or not, it is "Muslim" enough for me.


I agree.

QUOTE(mybackpages @ Dec 1 2006, 03:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Is the U.S. a Christian country?




This is the best answer offered thus far. good.gif


I'd say there is no question the US is a Judeo-Christian country, which puts me in the religious minority in my country.




Off topic, but I hate the term Judeo-Christian. If we pair those two then we really hsuld say Judeo-christain-Islamic, but even that bugs me. Judaism and Islam are much closer in structure, belief and practice. Christianity seems the odd one out. Kindda like that sesame street game- One of these things just doesn;t belong here. tongue.gif



Okay finished ranting. back to topic. whistling.gif

sarah and hicham
This reminds me of "Jews for Jesus".
Virtual wife
What's all the to do about Keith Ellison taking the oath of office on a Quran? In a Christian country, this is a big deal. In a Muslim country, it would not be a big deal.

Just another difference.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DennisP...kes_his_oath_on

http://www.deadbeatpoliticians.com/TheRed/...lison_oath.html

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington...shington_nation

amal
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Dec 1 2006, 02:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Is the U.S. a Christian country?




This is the best answer offered thus far. good.gif


I like this answer too.
peezey
QUOTE(szsz @ Dec 1 2006, 05:49 PM) *

What's all the to do about Keith Ellison taking the oath of office on a Quran? In a Christian country, this is a big deal. In a Muslim country, it would not be a big deal.

Just another difference.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DennisP...kes_his_oath_on

http://www.deadbeatpoliticians.com/TheRed/...lison_oath.html

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington...shington_nation


It's not a big deal unless you are crazy wind bag.

QUOTE(amal @ Dec 1 2006, 07:10 PM) *

QUOTE(mybackpages @ Dec 1 2006, 02:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Is the U.S. a Christian country?




This is the best answer offered thus far. good.gif


I like this answer too.


Ok, call me dense, I don't get this answer whatsoever. I think this is a Christian country.
Virtual wife
QUOTE(amal @ Dec 1 2006, 05:10 PM) *

QUOTE(mybackpages @ Dec 1 2006, 02:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Is the U.S. a Christian country?




This is the best answer offered thus far. good.gif


I like this answer too.



Isn't that a question rather than an answer?
peezey
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Dec 1 2006, 05:02 PM) *

QUOTE(peezey @ Dec 1 2006, 03:01 PM) *
QUOTE(szsz @ Dec 1 2006, 02:49 PM) *

QUOTE(brad836 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:08 PM) *

Unfortunately I think it's important to understand that currently no true muslim country exists. Even in countries that many might consider to be very islamic in the western world, in reality, in many areas of the local culture nothing can be further from the truth.



"Muslim" does not equal "Islamic".

I'd say that a Muslim country is one where the majority of the population considers itself to be Muslim, where Islam isn't "that other, lesser religion", and where worship and norms defined by Islam are predominant, whether engaged in my all or not, it is "Muslim" enough for me.


I agree.

QUOTE(mybackpages @ Dec 1 2006, 03:49 PM) *

QUOTE(jenn3539 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Is the U.S. a Christian country?




This is the best answer offered thus far. good.gif


I'd say there is no question the US is a Judeo-Christian country, which puts me in the religious minority in my country.




Off topic, but I hate the term Judeo-Christian. If we pair those two then we really hsuld say Judeo-christain-Islamic, but even that bugs me. Judaism and Islam are much closer in structure, belief and practice. Christianity seems the odd one out. Kindda like that sesame street game- One of these things just doesn;t belong here. tongue.gif



Okay finished ranting. back to topic. whistling.gif


I agree if we are talking about religious history, comparitive religion, values. But I definitely meant Judeo-Christian in that our country has been run/values legislated/foreign policy made by Christians and jews/israeli lobby.
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