I was a LPR and have been a Naturalized USC for several years now. I was looking at ssa.gov website to see how to apply for a SSN for my spouse. Under the "(3) Restrictive legend change defined" section, they say:
"An SSN card request based upon a change in immigration status or citizenship which does not affect the restrictive legend will count toward the yearly and lifetime limits, as in the case of Permanent Resident Aliens who attain U.S. citizenship."
Does this mean that a LPR who Naturalizes to USC needs to contact the SSA to get their information updated? I never did that because I never realized I had to do such a thing...!
Full Version: LPR to USC -- any Social Security Updates needed?
Strange one, can you give us a link or quote the page on the SSA website?
I would assume an unrestricted card is an unrestricted card LPR or Citizen.
You may just visit the SSA office to clarify if the status change from LPR to Citizen needs to be entered into the SSA computer systems.
I could not find anything on the SSA website about that. Just when someone switches from EAD to LPR do they indicate a change needs to be done, from restricted to unrestricted card.
I would assume an unrestricted card is an unrestricted card LPR or Citizen.
You may just visit the SSA office to clarify if the status change from LPR to Citizen needs to be entered into the SSA computer systems.
I could not find anything on the SSA website about that. Just when someone switches from EAD to LPR do they indicate a change needs to be done, from restricted to unrestricted card.
Okay, so on this page:
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10002.html
they have a section on "What if my immigration status or citizenship changed?" which states that if your Citizenship status changes, you should inform SSA.
And then on this page:
http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/422/422-0103.htm
they say what I quoted earlier -- about getting LPRs who become USC getting new card that will count towards the Card Replacement Limits.
Strange one, can you give us a link or quote the page on the SSA website?
I would assume an unrestricted card is an unrestricted card LPR or Citizen.
You may just visit the SSA office to clarify if the status change from LPR to Citizen needs to be entered into the SSA computer systems.
I could not find anything on the SSA website about that. Just when someone switches from EAD to LPR do they indicate a change needs to be done, from restricted to unrestricted card.
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10002.html
they have a section on "What if my immigration status or citizenship changed?" which states that if your Citizenship status changes, you should inform SSA.
And then on this page:
http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/422/422-0103.htm
they say what I quoted earlier -- about getting LPRs who become USC getting new card that will count towards the Card Replacement Limits.
QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Nov 20 2006, 01:21 PM) 
Strange one, can you give us a link or quote the page on the SSA website?
I would assume an unrestricted card is an unrestricted card LPR or Citizen.
You may just visit the SSA office to clarify if the status change from LPR to Citizen needs to be entered into the SSA computer systems.
I could not find anything on the SSA website about that. Just when someone switches from EAD to LPR do they indicate a change needs to be done, from restricted to unrestricted card.
QUOTE(sqtb @ Nov 20 2006, 04:30 PM)
Okay, so on this page:
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10002.html
they have a section on "What if my immigration status or citizenship changed?" which states that if your Citizenship status changes, you should inform SSA.
And then on this page:
http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/422/422-0103.htm
they say what I quoted earlier -- about getting LPRs who become USC getting new card that will count towards the Card Replacement Limits.
QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Nov 20 2006, 01:21 PM)
Strange one, can you give us a link or quote the page on the SSA website?
I would assume an unrestricted card is an unrestricted card LPR or Citizen.
You may just visit the SSA office to clarify if the status change from LPR to Citizen needs to be entered into the SSA computer systems.
I could not find anything on the SSA website about that. Just when someone switches from EAD to LPR do they indicate a change needs to be done, from restricted to unrestricted card.
I would follow the instructions, I suspect bringing your naturalization certificate to the SSA ofice is all that they need to see to update your status in their system, If your card is a non restricted one, with out the notation "VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH DHS AUTHORIZATION." then they wont have to replace it, it is the same card as citizens.
On the page you listed it states.
QUOTE
The first type of card shows your name and Social Security number and lets you work without restriction. We issue it to:
- U.S. citizens; and
- People lawfully admitted to the United States on a permanent basis.
OK amateurs. LOL
To update your SSN record to establish U.S. citizenship take your driver's license or state ID card and naturalization certificate or U.S. passport to an SSA office.
If you already have an unrestricted SSN card you really only need to update the CSP code on the SSN record to an "A", but chances are they won't suppress the card and you will be issued another unrestricted SSN card.
You are now only allowed 10 SSN cards in your lifetime, so I think that should do you whether they do or do not count that one. Once you get the card call the SSA 800 number to review your record to make sure the CSP code is now an "A".
https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203300
RM 00203.300 Who Must Submit Evidence of U.S. Citizenship for an SSN Card
They should not need to verify that you are now a U.S. citizen.
https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203310
RM 00203.310 Evidence of U.S. Citizenship for an SSN Card
C. Procedure -- Examining and Verifying the Document Submitted as Evidence of Citizenship
a. U.S. Passport
If the document appears to be authentic based on the visual examination, continue processing the SS-5
a. Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship Appears to Be Authentic
If the document appears to be authentic based on the visual examination, continue processing the SS-5.
While SSA employees should NOT routinely query SAVE online to verify a Certificate of Naturalization or a Certificate of Citizenship when the document appears authentic based on the visual examination, there may be situations when an applicant submits a Certificate of Naturalization or a Certificate of Citizenship which appears authentic and it is desirable to query SAVE to verify the document and confirm U.S. citizenship for enumeration purposes. Generally, accept a Certificate of Naturalization or Certificate of Citizenship as evidence establishing U.S. citizenship when it appears authentic when examined under both natural and black light and using the security guidelines in SSA’s ACM.
To update your SSN record to establish U.S. citizenship take your driver's license or state ID card and naturalization certificate or U.S. passport to an SSA office.
If you already have an unrestricted SSN card you really only need to update the CSP code on the SSN record to an "A", but chances are they won't suppress the card and you will be issued another unrestricted SSN card.
You are now only allowed 10 SSN cards in your lifetime, so I think that should do you whether they do or do not count that one. Once you get the card call the SSA 800 number to review your record to make sure the CSP code is now an "A".
https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203300
RM 00203.300 Who Must Submit Evidence of U.S. Citizenship for an SSN Card
They should not need to verify that you are now a U.S. citizen.
https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203310
RM 00203.310 Evidence of U.S. Citizenship for an SSN Card
C. Procedure -- Examining and Verifying the Document Submitted as Evidence of Citizenship
a. U.S. Passport
If the document appears to be authentic based on the visual examination, continue processing the SS-5
a. Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship Appears to Be Authentic
If the document appears to be authentic based on the visual examination, continue processing the SS-5.
While SSA employees should NOT routinely query SAVE online to verify a Certificate of Naturalization or a Certificate of Citizenship when the document appears authentic based on the visual examination, there may be situations when an applicant submits a Certificate of Naturalization or a Certificate of Citizenship which appears authentic and it is desirable to query SAVE to verify the document and confirm U.S. citizenship for enumeration purposes. Generally, accept a Certificate of Naturalization or Certificate of Citizenship as evidence establishing U.S. citizenship when it appears authentic when examined under both natural and black light and using the security guidelines in SSA’s ACM.
FYI
If the SSA office would happen to issue you a replacement card when updating the SSN record to establish U.S. citizenship it does count against the 3 per year/10 lifetime SSN cards you can be issued.
However, if you lose 3 in a year or 10 total SSN cards, you don't need a fiancé or spouse, you need a legal guardian. LOL
If the SSA office would happen to issue you a replacement card when updating the SSN record to establish U.S. citizenship it does count against the 3 per year/10 lifetime SSN cards you can be issued.
However, if you lose 3 in a year or 10 total SSN cards, you don't need a fiancé or spouse, you need a legal guardian. LOL
QUOTE(mdyoung @ Nov 21 2006, 11:57 AM)
FYI
If the SSA office would happen to issue you a replacement card when updating the SSN record to establish U.S. citizenship it does count against the 3 per year/10 lifetime SSN cards you can be issued.
However, if you lose 3 in a year or 10 total SSN cards, you don't need a fiancé or spouse, you need a legal guardian. LOL
If the SSA office would happen to issue you a replacement card when updating the SSN record to establish U.S. citizenship it does count against the 3 per year/10 lifetime SSN cards you can be issued.
However, if you lose 3 in a year or 10 total SSN cards, you don't need a fiancé or spouse, you need a legal guardian. LOL
so what is the actual purpose of updating your ssn when becoming a citizen, do they issue you a new ss number?
Thanks tonyt.
tonyt,
You do not update your ssn, you update your personal information with the SSA. And the SSA does not issue you a new ssn - the number is yours for life.
Yodrak
so what is the actual purpose of updating your ssn when becoming a citizen, do they issue you a new ss number?
Thanks tonyt.
You do not update your ssn, you update your personal information with the SSA. And the SSA does not issue you a new ssn - the number is yours for life.
Yodrak
QUOTE(tonyt @ Mar 14 2007, 08:42 PM)
QUOTE(mdyoung @ Nov 21 2006, 11:57 AM)
FYI
If the SSA office would happen to issue you a replacement card when updating the SSN record to establish U.S. citizenship it does count against the 3 per year/10 lifetime SSN cards you can be issued.
However, if you lose 3 in a year or 10 total SSN cards, you don't need a fiancé or spouse, you need a legal guardian. LOL
If the SSA office would happen to issue you a replacement card when updating the SSN record to establish U.S. citizenship it does count against the 3 per year/10 lifetime SSN cards you can be issued.
However, if you lose 3 in a year or 10 total SSN cards, you don't need a fiancé or spouse, you need a legal guardian. LOL
so what is the actual purpose of updating your ssn when becoming a citizen, do they issue you a new ss number?
Thanks tonyt.
Who loses 10 SS cards in their life time? Once, twice, maybe 3 times if you're not careful, but 10??? 
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