you're only sick because you went to bed/outside with damp hair, or you didn't tuck your pj top into your pj bottoms before going to bed. And/or you left a window open/ac on/fan on.

That's right because we all know that's exactly how you "catch" a cold.

Religion has nuttin to do with..I've seen the most religious looking and acting ppl do the most despicable things. If you told my husband this he'd die laughing! He has a friend who married a Canadian and claimed to her he was a virgin before marriage. Mohamed says...Mahmoud..a virgin? Hahahahaha!!!! He's lying to her..hahahaha.

How could he have kissed a woman when he doesn't even look in the vicinity of their eyes?

And how do you know he does or does not do this?

What I'm saying here is don't necessarily believe everything you hear. Wait until you get there to judge.

Too bad we can't do the bloody sheet test on the guys!

Doodle, how old is Usama if you don't mind me asking?

You must have really, really GREAT hair if it requires "armor"

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Don;t forget having a glass of water with too much ice in it!

Well then, I guess 16 and never been kissed isn't so bad afterall. When I turned 16, everyone was teasing me about that.

I was 13 when I had my first kiss. I still remember where it was too and I drive by it everyday.

Actually he has other friends who haven't either and neither have his sisters. I guess it depends on what area of Cairo you live in. He lives in the old Islamic area I think. I kind of like it though. It's like how I"d rather hire a staff person right out of college then someone with experience so that I can teach them fresh how to do the audits and not have to spend time erasing bad habits.

Oh I don't think I'd want to break someone in. I prefer a man with some experience. I can't imagine having to teach a 30 something how to kiss or....

Or any ice at all! Ice apparently goes against all natural laws of beverage consumption.




I agree, anatomy lessons are not something I'm interested in conducting.

My suggestions:



Laptop, if you have one...(if you are flying with Lufthansa they are offering until Dec. 31 free in-flight internet as a promotion..later there will be a flat rate for internet use on the plane)

Mp3 player or CD player

Books and magazines

Cross word puzzles

Extra work or school work

Pen and paper (can do alot of thinking at 10.000 ft)

Donnot sleep much before your long flight, I usually do this and sleep for about half the flight...



FYIs:

Make friendly with your flight attendant, they will charge your laptop in flight(if they like you) and also make your flight more comfortbale

Ohhhhhh VJ on the plane.

don't forget your West Nile pills too.. that close to the nile, you don't want to take ANY chances

LMAO OMG

This thread is definitely going down hill . . . but I guess how long can you talk about "Boredom on long flights" and come up with really clever things to say!!

How old is he? He never kissed a woman? Sorry but I just don't believe it. I really am worried for you I hope he doesn't really want you to wear hijab here in the US if you don't want to. It shouldn't be his choice, it should be yours. As bosco said it has nothing to do with your husband it's between you and God.

Actually, similar to Doodle (I think), I knew my fiance before I reverted. We've known each other 2 years and I only reverted back in June. So, he has seen me without hijab and that's fine with me. I won't be wearing it in Egypt just because I don't want him to see me without it.
I don't feel safe wearing it here in the US, though I do want to wear it, so I'm hoping that wearing it while in Egypt will help me to wear it when I come back here after the trip.
Aaaaand, my fiance has let me know so many times that it's my decision on whether I want to wear it or not, even while I'm in Egypt.

For some reason I can't edit the above post, but I realize some of the grammar I used might be confusing. I plan on wearing hijab in Egypt, but not for my fiance or the fact that he shouldn't see me without it before we marry. When I said, "I won't be wearing it in Egypt just because I don't want him to see me without it." what I was trying to say was that it has nothing to do with him seeing me or not.
Aaand, I think I've confused things even more.

Doodlebug I am curious to know how your fiance likes that you have now shared with everyone that he is a virgin? Does he read here?

Nope. And if he did he wouldn't care. He'd be more po'd if I shared that he wasn't since it is a shame on him.

I just figured that since you are a good Muslim woman you wouldn't discuss your future husbands virginity on a public forum. Usually Arab men don't like their personal business to be shared with anyone period.

I'd think any Muslim man who hadn't been married wouldn't be worried by the fact that someone said he was a virgin. That's how it's supposed to be until marriage. So it's nothing out of the ordinary.

Well sometimes I'm good and sometimes I'm bad.

Doodlebug- if that is your "good" and your "bad" self on the see-saw, who is the smilie on the bottom? Not your SO I hope?

nah..he has his own see saw action going on..trust me!

That's not the point... the point is that privacy is very important for most of these men. They want their personal lives to be private and between himself and his wife.

I don't think that was the point. I think what Sarah was remarking is unusual is a Muslim woman discussing her husband's sexual history or lack thereof in a public forum, not whether or not he should be proud or worried he is a virgin.

WHAT??? people on this board are talking about private things on this board? I must be reading the wrong threads

And if the men knew this... oh man

Actually if you read above, she asked 1) how he feels that I've revealed that he's a virgin and 2) does he read here.

I answered but now everyone is commenting on whether it was good or bad for me to do so as a "muslim woman".

Did she really want to know how he feels or was it an opening for her to share her own feelings about what I've done. That I guess would be my question.

I don't liek to make assumptions so I asked those questions instead of jumping to conclusions.

I took asking how he felt you revealed he was a virgin not to being about the fact that he is a virgin but the revelation in itself, but I guess it can be read both ways.

that and Sarah is also very nosey ...like me

I think this flight has been long enough and I am happy to land in my own bed for the night!!

Good Night, All!

Well I do appreciate your concern for his feelings.

Well I'm just trying to figure out if this is something Muslims are supposed to do or not supposed to do because I have heard both things said on here before. I guess you are on the more open side and have no problem revealing personal or private information about your relationship with your fiance? So do you think it's a no no or it's ok? Have you talked about it with your fiance before?

Maybe we should start a new topic for this?

I think we already have 3 around here somewhere

Ideas? Anyone?

Oh ok. Well I would suggest personally that if you want to learn about what Muslims are supposed to or not supposed to do, going by me is not a good idea at all since I only reverted a few months ago. Plus just trying to learn by people's posts and actions on a message board wouldn't be a good idea either. I would talk to your husband, or go to your local mosque and ask questions there. I assure you that both of those sources would be better equipped with good info than just reading here on VJ. I know when I was first starting out I read "The Idiot's Guide to Islam", and then started reading on islamicboard.com, asking muslim friends for book recommendations, etc. Even after doing all that and reading close to 20 books so far I still have a looooong way to go before ever becoming a "good muslim". It's a process for sure but the best thing for a newbie like me to do is to keep on praying five times/day, reading the Quran, and asking Allah to lead me to the straight path. If I do that every day then insha Allah I should be on my way to good things to come!

There are many christians, buddhists, muslims, jews, etc. that don't always act in the best of ways. I always say that's why God put erasers on pencils. We're all human and no one is without sin but we all just muddle along and try to do our best.

Yes we've talked before and he could really care less what I share on an internet where no one knows us and no one is ever likely to bump into us.

Sorry Melly!!!!!!! I really did like the idea of this thread but I just noticed how HUGE it's become!!! Seems like all the threads here get offtrack at one point or another!!! I can remember starting a thread about spending my honeymoon with my inlaws and somehow it just ballooned out and then got locked!!!!

Actually I'm not really interested on searching online. I was hoping to hear opinions from Muslims on VJ I guess. Thanks for the input!

And I don't mind the thread de-rail. It happens on every board, it's just a part of posting I guess.
Plus, if it's beneficial, than who am I to complain.

I just figured if there was going to be alot of discussion about other stuff, it might be more helpful if people knew about it based on thread title, etc.

One more thing- you said no one "knows" you on here and you won't bump into anyone. Don't be so quick to think that. A lot of people know people through others and you never know who is reading. I wouldn't share personal info online, especially since I don't know anyone in real life. That's an even bigger reason not to share info!

I think its not so much a religious question here- whats a "good" muslim etc... but rather an understandng of the culture. Among ME/NA people, I think there is a sensibility that leans towards keeping private things in the private realm. Americans can be so open and will start telling a stranger on the street the most personal details of their life. ME/NA cultures sees that as very unsual







right, just try googling yourself sometime and see what comes up. These posts on VJ can appear on a google search if the right words are used. There are people who could find these posts easily with a very little amount of information. For example, I tell people I use a visa forum board...a little digging could easily produce all of my words...which may or may not be viewed in context by an outside person

Exactly, I stalk Sarah all the time. She is my idol