Hi, people!
I'm 25 years old, so at the embassy I was told I have to sign up with the Selective Service as soon as I arrive in the US. Why do I have to do that? I'm not even a permanent resident yet and they want to ship me off to Irak??? How the hell does that work? I am not exactly thrilled about going off to fight some bullshit war when I'm FINALLY reunited with my darling American. What are the chances of that happening? I'll be 26 in May, so it's not exactly a long wait, but... I don't wanna be dragged off all of a sudden.
/Annoyed Swede
Full Version: Selective Service
http://www.sss.gov/
You can read about Selective Service at the site above. Selective Service is required of all residents of the United States. I believe you are required to sign up when you get your permanent residency. If you are within the age group required, and you don't, and later apply for citizenship, it could cause problems because they view that as refusing selective service. There's info about that on the site.
http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm
This discusses who must register for Selective Service.
http://www.sss.gov/fslottery.htm
You generally won't have to worry. There isn't a draft in place at the moment. The above link explains about how the draft lottery works. It starts with men who would turn 20 the year of the draft, so really, you're safe in that respect.
You can read about Selective Service at the site above. Selective Service is required of all residents of the United States. I believe you are required to sign up when you get your permanent residency. If you are within the age group required, and you don't, and later apply for citizenship, it could cause problems because they view that as refusing selective service. There's info about that on the site.
http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm
This discusses who must register for Selective Service.
http://www.sss.gov/fslottery.htm
You generally won't have to worry. There isn't a draft in place at the moment. The above link explains about how the draft lottery works. It starts with men who would turn 20 the year of the draft, so really, you're safe in that respect.
The US has not used the draft since the Vietnam War so don't worry about getting sent to Iraq.
As for having to sign up, it is the Law in the US.
As for having to sign up, it is the Law in the US.
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ATTENTION, UNDOCUMENTED MALES & IMMIGRANT SERVICING GROUPS!
If you are a man ages 18 through 25 and living in the U.S., then you must register with Selective Service. It’s the law. You can register at any U.S. Post Office and do not need a social security number. When you do obtain a social security number, let Selective Service know. Provide a copy of your new social security number card; include your complete name, date of birth, Selective Service registration number, and current mailing address; and mail to the Selective Service System, P.O. Box 94636, Palatine, IL 60094-4636.
http://www.sss.gov/If you are a man ages 18 through 25 and living in the U.S., then you must register with Selective Service. It’s the law. You can register at any U.S. Post Office and do not need a social security number. When you do obtain a social security number, let Selective Service know. Provide a copy of your new social security number card; include your complete name, date of birth, Selective Service registration number, and current mailing address; and mail to the Selective Service System, P.O. Box 94636, Palatine, IL 60094-4636.
Completing your I-485 is a required step for you to live in the US; you'll find the info about SS on the back half of that form.
Go to sss.gov and read up for yourself--registering your name is NOT the same as 'being shipped to Irak'.
No one gets 'dragged off'; don't over-react, just go read the facts.
Go to sss.gov and read up for yourself--registering your name is NOT the same as 'being shipped to Irak'.
No one gets 'dragged off'; don't over-react, just go read the facts.
QUOTE(Arazia @ Nov 6 2006, 02:11 PM) 
http://www.sss.gov/
You can read about Selective Service at the site above. Selective Service is required of all residents of the United States. I believe you are required to sign up when you get your permanent residency. If you are within the age group required, and you don't, and later apply for citizenship, it could cause problems because they view that as refusing selective service. There's info about that on the site.
http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm
This discusses who must register for Selective Service.
http://www.sss.gov/fslottery.htm
You generally won't have to worry. There isn't a draft in place at the moment. The above link explains about how the draft lottery works. It starts with men who would turn 20 the year of the draft, so really, you're safe in that respect.
Thanks a lot! I was looking for links just like those.
QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Nov 6 2006, 02:12 PM)
The US has not used the draft since the Vietnam War so don't worry about getting sent to Iraq.
As for having to sign up, it is the Law in the US.
QUOTE
ATTENTION, UNDOCUMENTED MALES & IMMIGRANT SERVICING GROUPS!
If you are a man ages 18 through 25 and living in the U.S., then you must register with Selective Service. It’s the law. You can register at any U.S. Post Office and do not need a social security number. When you do obtain a social security number, let Selective Service know. Provide a copy of your new social security number card; include your complete name, date of birth, Selective Service registration number, and current mailing address; and mail to the Selective Service System, P.O. Box 94636, Palatine, IL 60094-4636.
http://www.sss.gov/If you are a man ages 18 through 25 and living in the U.S., then you must register with Selective Service. It’s the law. You can register at any U.S. Post Office and do not need a social security number. When you do obtain a social security number, let Selective Service know. Provide a copy of your new social security number card; include your complete name, date of birth, Selective Service registration number, and current mailing address; and mail to the Selective Service System, P.O. Box 94636, Palatine, IL 60094-4636.
Oh, oh! I see... I got it a bit wrong, then.
QUOTE(meauxna @ Nov 6 2006, 02:13 PM)
Completing your I-485 is a required step for you to live in the US; you'll find the info about SS on the back half of that form.
Go to sss.gov and read up for yourself--registering your name is NOT the same as 'being shipped to Irak'.
No one gets 'dragged off'; don't over-react, just go read the facts.
So, basically I don't even have to go sign up at a post office as long as I file for AOS within 30 days? Thanks for clearing that up
(I realized it's not the same thing a minute ago hehe)
Maybe I over-reacted a bit... but I think you might've felt the same way if you too got a paper thrust into your face and was told: Sign or don't get a visa. "Gee, thanks. What an abundance of choices you present me with..." They were not exactly nice about it.
QUOTE(Piratess&Swede @ Nov 6 2006, 01:28 PM)
So, basically I don't even have to go sign up at a post office as long as I file for AOS within 30 days? Thanks for clearing that up
(I realized it's not the same thing a minute ago hehe)
Maybe I over-reacted a bit... but I think you might've felt the same way if you too got a paper thrust into your face and was told: Sign or don't get a visa. "Gee, thanks. What an abundance of choices you present me with..." They were not exactly nice about it.
You will still have to sign up with the selective service, doing AOS is not an exemption and is not the same thing as signing up for selective service. (I realized it's not the same thing a minute ago hehe)
Maybe I over-reacted a bit... but I think you might've felt the same way if you too got a paper thrust into your face and was told: Sign or don't get a visa. "Gee, thanks. What an abundance of choices you present me with..." They were not exactly nice about it.
QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Nov 6 2006, 10:39 AM)
You will still have to sign up with the selective service, doing AOS is not an exemption and is not the same thing as signing up for selective service.
I-485 Instructions and text:
If you are a male at least 18 years old, but not yet 26 years old, and required according to the Military Selective Service Act to register with the Selective Service System, USCIS will help you register.
When your signed application is filed and accepted by USCIS,we will transmit to the Selective Service System your name,current address, Social Security number, date of birth and thedate you filed the application. This action will enable the Selective Service System to record your registration as of thef iling date of your application.
(NOTE: Men 18 through 25 years old who are applying for student financial aid, government employment or jobtraining benefits should register directly with the SelectiveService System or such benefits may be denied. Men canregister at a local post office or on the internet at http://www.sss.gov).
If USCIS does not accept your application and, if still sorequired, you are responsible to register with the SelectiveService System by using other means, provided you are under26 years of age. If you have already registered, the SelectiveService System will check its records to avoid any duplication.
SELECTIVE SERVICE REGISTRATION. The following applies to you if you are a male at least 18 years old, but not yet 26years old, who is required to register with the Selective Service System: "I understand that my filing this adjustment of statusapplication with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services authorizes USCIS to provide certain registration information to theSelective Service System in accordance with the Military Selective Service Act. Upon USCIS acceptance of my application, I authorizeUSCIS to transmit to the Selective Service System my name, current address, Social Security Number, date of birth and the date I filedthe application for the purpose of recording my Selective Service registration as of the filing date. If, however, USCIS does not acceptmy application, I further understand that, if so required, I am responsible for registering with the Selective Service by other means,provided I have not yet reached age 26."
QUOTE(Arazia @ Nov 6 2006, 01:11 PM)
http://www.sss.gov/
You can read about Selective Service at the site above. Selective Service is required of all residents of the United States. I believe you are required to sign up when you get your permanent residency. If you are within the age group required, and you don't, and later apply for citizenship, it could cause problems because they view that as refusing selective service. There's info about that on the site.
http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm
You can read about Selective Service at the site above. Selective Service is required of all residents of the United States. I believe you are required to sign up when you get your permanent residency. If you are within the age group required, and you don't, and later apply for citizenship, it could cause problems because they view that as refusing selective service. There's info about that on the site.
http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm
Correction -- all PERMANENT residents and citizens who are below 26 years of age.
(as I was a month past 36 when I got my GC, no such requirement).
For Annoyed Swede, chances of your needing to register are....close to ZERO.
Looking at your timeline, the visa is not yet in your hand. A slim chance of needing to register if you get your visa shortly (prior to 2006/11/30), marry as planned (2006/12/09) and send the AOS package out the next day (including processing time of 120-180 days).
Even illegals are required to register for selective service, not just legal residents and citizens.
By signing the AOS application form, you are registering for Selective Service.
By signing the AOS application form, you are registering for Selective Service.
QUOTE(Reba @ Nov 7 2006, 08:00 AM)
Even illegals are required to register for selective service, not just legal residents and citizens.
By signing the AOS application form, you are registering for Selective Service.
By signing the AOS application form, you are registering for Selective Service.
Correction: if you're under 26 when you sign the AOS form, you're registering--otherwise, moot.
I had to sign up too. They also asked this at my AOS interview, and the guy that interviewed me, said he would NOT approve me if i wasnt signed up.
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