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amelynn43
I would really appreciate any help with this, as I guess I was unaware of a few things regarding U.S. Citizenship. My fiance is English, and we have talked about it being important for him to keep his English Citizenship...however, I have just found out from my Senator's office that if we ever decided to move to the UK, if Rich is only a permanent resident, he loses this, and we have to start the process all over. The congressman's assistant told me that some countries allow someone who has become a U.S. citizen, to then go back to their home country and apply for citizenship again. Does anyone know if this is true of the U.K. or where I can find this information out? Has anyone gone through this? Thanks!
heishe
He cannot lose his UK citizenship unless he takes positive legal action to do such. The US citizenship oath does not constitute positive legal action to renounce former citizenship, even though it includes a statement about that.

If you move to the UK while he is a permanent resident, he can lose that. He cannot lose his UK citizenship simply by becoming a US citizen. The US doesn't recognize dual citizenship - this means the US doesn't care if its citizens also claim other citizenship. It does not mean dual citizenship is illegal.
meauxna
QUOTE(amelynn43 @ Nov 2 2006, 09:47 AM) *

I would really appreciate any help with this, as I guess I was unaware of a few things regarding U.S. Citizenship. My fiance is English, and we have talked about it being important for him to keep his English Citizenship...however, I have just found out from my Senator's office that if we ever decided to move to the UK, if Rich is only a permanent resident, he loses this, and we have to start the process all over. The congressman's assistant told me that some countries allow someone who has become a U.S. citizen, to then go back to their home country and apply for citizenship again. Does anyone know if this is true of the U.K. or where I can find this information out? Has anyone gone through this? Thanks!

Maybe you misunderstood what the person told you.

My husband is English also. He just naturalized to US citizen this year so that we woiuld not face the problem you sketch.
While a Permanent Resident, the PR must maintain the US as their primary residence. If they move abroad permanently (for one example), they could lose their PR status and would not be able to move back to the US without reimmigrating (or a couple of other similar options).
Once the person takes US citizenship, they're just like any other USC, except they can't be president.

The UK has no real objection to one of their citizens taking US (or any other) citizenship. The most important thing to remember about dual citizenship is that you deal with each country individually. To the US, he will always be a USC (they ignore the UKC). To the UK, he is always one of theirs.
amelynn43
Thank you for your help! This all makes me feel much better. So would he just keep both passports? Is that how it works?
meauxna
Yup.
We've got a red one and two blues in the drawer. smile.gif

example on the above:
The Darling Alien/American Husband had applied for US citienship.
We planned an international trip for the late summer.
The Oath Ceremony, when one officially becomes a US citizen, was scheduled for one week before our (paid for) departure.

Once he took that oath, the DAH *is required* to present himself as a US citizen to US immigration--meaning, he needed to return to the US with proof of US citizenship--he could no longer enter with his UK passport.
The solution was a rush trip to the Passport Authority with proof of our imminent departure, the natz certificate and other stuff (like $$$). The new US passport was produced that day and handed over, allowing him to travel as a USC.

The UK passport will be handy for trips to Europe. He can carry that passport and enter the EU as a Brit, enjoy unlimited stay (and I can get whatever spouse benefits of stay are offered--ie, got my Greek PR thru my marriage) and when we return to the US, he shows the US passport and is *admitted* as a USC.

It's cool to be dual. cool.gif
shakysgirl
This is the path my husband is taking as well.....it'll be much more convenient and less worry. Our little baby daughter is also a "dual" citizen of both the UK and the US and has two passports.
Aussielad
QUOTE(amelynn43 @ Nov 2 2006, 12:47 PM) *

I would really appreciate any help with this, as I guess I was unaware of a few things regarding U.S. Citizenship. My fiance is English, and we have talked about it being important for him to keep his English Citizenship...however, I have just found out from my Senator's office that if we ever decided to move to the UK, if Rich is only a permanent resident, he loses this, and we have to start the process all over. The congressman's assistant told me that some countries allow someone who has become a U.S. citizen, to then go back to their home country and apply for citizenship again. Does anyone know if this is true of the U.K. or where I can find this information out? Has anyone gone through this? Thanks!




you know what...i wouldnt even begin to worry about that for now...your wayyyyyyyyyy off, you have time, sit back and relax for a while with immigration. smile.gif
kirus
QUOTE(amelynn43 @ Nov 2 2006, 11:47 AM) *

I would really appreciate any help with this, as I guess I was unaware of a few things regarding U.S. Citizenship. My fiance is English, and we have talked about it being important for him to keep his English Citizenship...however, I have just found out from my Senator's office that if we ever decided to move to the UK, if Rich is only a permanent resident, he loses this, and we have to start the process all over. The congressman's assistant told me that some countries allow someone who has become a U.S. citizen, to then go back to their home country and apply for citizenship again. Does anyone know if this is true of the U.K. or where I can find this information out? Has anyone gone through this? Thanks!


Did you see this? http://www.usdvp.com/ It may be useful
Knobby_Wheezer
Meauxna:

Does the UK passport not expire? My Canadian one does---every 5 years.

How would I renew it? Does anyone know?

Not that I, either, am anywhere close to that point.


PS: the Diversified Lottery was closed to Canadians that last time that I looked (too many of us in the US already---teeheehee).
Knobby_Wheezer
Never mind.

Found answer by myself.
CarolineM
Stewart wants to do just this smile.gif We have a ways to go .... but he can get the USC without losing his Aussie one!!

I agree with Meauxna...it does sound cool to be dual smile.gif
RyanFamily
Does anyone out there have experience with getting dual citizenship with Australia and the US? My husband is eligible in a couple of months and we want to make sure to avoid any pit falls. We have heard through friends that you have to be cautious on using one passport to enter the US and another to enter another country, such as Australia, because you do not have proof of your trip in your US passport and when you re-enter the US you can get in some hot water- Any advice? helpsmilie.gif
lucyrich
QUOTE(RyanFamily @ Dec 14 2006, 08:33 AM) *
Does anyone out there have experience with getting dual citizenship with Australia and the US? My husband is eligible in a couple of months and we want to make sure to avoid any pit falls. We have heard through friends that you have to be cautious on using one passport to enter the US and another to enter another country, such as Australia, because you do not have proof of your trip in your US passport and when you re-enter the US you can get in some hot water- Any advice? helpsmilie.gif


I don't know about Australia specifically, but I do know that, according to US law, if you are a US citizen, regardless of what other citizenships you may or may not hold, you are required to present your US passport when dealing with US government officials. There are other countries that have similar laws, but not all do. If Australia has such a law, he'd have to present his Australian passport to Australian officials, and his US passport to US officials.

Rich Wales talks about some of the interesting issues in dealing with airline personnel and immigration/customs officials on an international journey in the Dual Citizenship FAQ. See the question and answers section. Sometimes the US law and the laws of other countries lead to some difficult conflicts.
Luis&Laura
And anyone there knows anything about getting dual with Brazil and US? I know what the law says I wanted actual stories.
Carlos and Simonne
QUOTE(Luis&Laura @ Dec 14 2006, 01:42 PM) *
And anyone there knows anything about getting dual with Brazil and US? I know what the law says I wanted actual stories.


There’s no problem with dual Brazilian/US citizenship. My husband was a Brazilian citizen then became also US citizen.

Simonne
Luis&Laura
Thanks!

What about my husband getting brazilian citizenship? Anyone how's US taking up their citizens getting a second nationality?
CarolineM
i know in australia I could get it, and keep american citizenship, BUT i'd have to live there smile.gif
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