That is a beautiful picture, you two make a darling couple.

The advice I would give is to make sure you know your wife well. Take plenty of pictures and proof that you have a valid and ongoing relationship. Be honest about everything. Respect and be kind to the interviewer. Make sure you know any and all of your red flags and be prepared to answer questions and give them any physical proof that you can on your answers.

Good luck!

hi and thank you for your advice i have prooves of engoing relationship and ofcourse i know everything about my wife her family and his father is the joint sponsor so do you think that will would be an advantage and what about the congressman help it is good they are gonna contact the embassy before the interview ?

The congressman in ways is helpful, in that they know that you have support and that they must be careful not to deny based on anything frivolous. But they can not guarantee an approval. If they find a reason to deny it they will. Just be confident, friendly, and respectful.

ADD ME ON THE LIST!!
ANYTHING TO STOP THE IMMIGRATION INJUSTICES!
THANKS TO ALL FOR ALL YOUR HELPFUL INFORMATION
WE GOT TO STICK TOGETHER!

OK it's been a long time since i have posted anything. Well my petition was sent back last year in October. I called this week and the lady took my info and submitted a customer service inquiry. Today i got and email and this is what it said.

"Type of service requested:
-- Outside Normal Processing Times


The status of this service request is:

Since the date we received your request, we have approved your I-129F case and an approval notice was sent on 04/19/2008 to the address we have on file. If you do not receive the notice within 30 days, and you want an official duplicate for your records, you will need to file a Form I-824 Application for Action on an Approved Application or Petition. You can download this form by visiting our website at www.uscis.gov.

If you have any further questions, please call the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.

Please remember: By law, every person who is not a U.S. citizen and who is over the age of 14 must also notify the Department of Homeland Security within 10 days from when they move (persons in "A" or "G" nonimmigrant status are exempt from this requirement). If you have moved, please complete a Form AR-11 and mail it to the address shown on that form. If you do not have this form, you can download it from our website or you can call the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283 and we can order one for you. If you move, please call us with your new address information as soon as your move is complete. If you have already called us and given us this information, you do not need to call again.


I called them and the lady told me well if you received and email saying it's approved then it will be sent back to the department of state. Well when i check my on line case status it shows an update or touch as of January 11 2008 but still says under review.

I don't know what to think but at least this gives me hope.

I'm just curious. Did uscis send you a "notice of intent to deny"? If not, did you just send in more evidences and they reviewed and approved it? I hope I am not being too nosy I would just like to learn more about returned petitions. Thanks

Perhaps you could call them back and tell them what the e-mail stated and what the online status is, then perhaps they will let you talk to an immigration officer. Hopefully the e-mail is correct and they just didn't update the online status. It does sound hopeful, but I would hate to see you get your hopes up for nothing. They really are inept there.

I know i don't want to get my hopes up but i do have hope. I haven't received any type of notice or anything form them since October last year. I spoke with two different customer service reps and one put me on hold and came back and told me it appears it has been approved I explained it had been returned for review she said the information she is looking at it was approved. So I don't know. I will feel more at ease when i have it in writing. I did send more evidence to the state department and the consulate in panama. They may have included it when they sent it back.

Well that is interesting. Maybe the added proof you sent them has helped. When this happened to me and my fiance awhile ago I talked to a lawyer and she recommened sending in more evidence before getting a NOID letter. Maybe it worked for you.

most of the time the national customer service number people do not have a clue about returned petitons. you need to track your case via the pouch it was returned in.

why was your case returned?

chi

did you have pictures of your wedding? for some reason they refuse to believe you. you need to discover what that reason is so your wife can address it when she receives the NOIR from USCIS. she will have to address each and every issue on the NOIR.

let me tell you it is RARE to not overcome the NOIR if one has provided the proof requested.

as to knowing about her previous husbands---every benificary needs a copy of the petition to study! the CO will certainly want to ask questions about what it contains and the benificary better know the answer. it is expected---dont ask me why---i agree with you that it was her previous life and why should you have to know it but is just how it is.

now the ball is once again in her hands and she will have to prove you both are bona vide. get a copy of the petition and study it. once she gets this denial overturned you will have another interview and the CO may ask you again!

good luck.

chi

shhhh i'm on a mission

I agree also we need this pinned.

it is

it's been pinned. i have to wonder if some know what "pinned" means.

My husband has been in AP for over a year now. I totally agree this needs notice. Anything I can do to help all those going thru this I will be there. Best wishes to you.

Jayne

What does it mean? thanks

OK if u go to the MENA Forum group, open, and at the top you will see this and a recipe group i think it was, this will always be there as a permanent part of the forum body, not like our daily threads that drop off after a time when no one talks on them, its always there

Thank you very much for your explanation

I want to ask you a question about our returned visa to USCIS. We did not have a 221G form, we were not rejected or revoked, but were told that the State Dept. was sending our VISA petition back to USCIS for further review, which is predicted to be done within 6 months of receipt. So, I'm thinking that maybe we do not fall into this category. What do you think?

u got some kind of paper back to explain,usually the 221g with further explanation needing more reveiw etc what does your paper say, and how exactly was it worded, a return for review could be one thing, a review for the normal name checks etc would be another

Casadv,

We got the 221g, and it was worded that it was sent back to the CIS for further review. So anytime I hear sent back to CIS (USCIS) it is a sign to move quickly. Maybe you didn't get the 221g, but if that is what the DOS told you then you need to get more info quick. Perhaps they are wrong, they have been before, but I wouldn't wait to find out.

After the interview what did they give you? They must have given you something. They are required to either issue the visa, give you a hard denial, or a soft denial. The 221g would be considered a soft denial, and it can mean many many things to simple AP to sent back to USCIS.

QUOTE(morocco4ever @ Jul 31 2008, 10:33 AM)

Casadv,

We got the 221g, and it was worded that it was sent back to the CIS for further review. So anytime I hear sent back to CIS (USCIS) it is a sign to move quickly. Maybe you didn't get the 221g, but if that is what the DOS told you then you need to get more info quick. Perhaps they are wrong, they have been before, but I wouldn't wait to find out.

After the interview what did they give you? They must have given you something. They are required to either issue the visa, give you a hard denial, or a soft denial. The 221g would be considered a soft denial, and it can mean many many things to simple AP to sent back to USCIS.

They said for him to return with a piece of information, and then he would get the visa. So, he went back to Erfoud, (16 hours rndtrip), got the information and returned to the consulate, whereupon they told him that he would not be getting the visa, that this is how it works, despite my fiance stating what was told to him. They then went on to ask about more information, and then it went to Administrative Processing. It came back from there, and we DID get the 221-G after all (I went back to check my paperwork), and were told that the visa was going back to USCIS for further review. He was also told that his petition had expired in CASA, but no paperwork about that.

What do you think?

Carol

Maybe you could call the DOS and try to get some information from them. I know if the security checks cleared then its up to the embassy to issue the visa. But if the security checks dont clear then the embassy cannot issue the visa. Do you think it could be something with his security checks? Just a guess.

Carol

you are talking about 2 very different process's here.

the 221g has several box's on it. each box has a different meanings>>>>

one is call AP which is sending your case for name/security checks to washington---after checks are complete a visa is issued.

the other is returning your case for further review by uscis---this is a DENIAL to issue a visa. your case goes back to uscis and it is anyone's guess as to what will happen next.

if the consulate is going to issue a visa they can extend the validity of the petition so it doesnt expire. so no need to be concerned.

you need to find out exactly which box is checked on the 221g letter. then you will know what needs/can be done.

it DOES sound like your case has been denied a visa and is being returned to uscis. you need to know for sure though. have you e mailed the consulate and asked about your case? have you asked your representative make an inquiry via e mail?

these would be the next steps for you to take.

chi

chi

the application goes back you do not have the visa yet, ok this is what mine also said going back for REVIEW to calif and ours had also expired. It was returned to calif the month it expired and died there. They told me to refile.......and they will send u letter saying they have recd it but in over a year they say nothing, only thru my rep finding out about the refile. IF it is returning they should be able to give you the pouch number it is to be returned in....but you need to try keep it there if possible. But first you HAVE to find out exacly what is takeing place with your case

Everbody suggests you find out first why your petition got returned in beginning. Call rep, send in privacy act notice. I would like to know kiya did you find out? Or did you reapply? Shoni did you find out? Morocco did you find out? or just guessed? Brnidokiegurl did you reapply too?

My question is, why do so many people on here that never had thier petitions returned suggest you find out what is the reason in first place why it was returned? They dont give you reason as far as I am concerned. You will be waiting for life time? What is wrong with reapplying?

The only reason they initially gave us that they doubt the validity of our relationship. On the NOIR it stated 3 reasons. Just met and married (we had known each other almost a year before I flew there), We had a small wedding (we only got the approval 4 days before my return to the states, hardly time to plan a wedding. There were no relatives at the wedding (a lie, there were family, they never even asked who the people at the wedding were).

But I was one of the lucky ones because the interview was going fine until they asked if he had family in the US. He said his sister and ex brother in law. The ex was from a different sister, but they came to the wrong conclusion and assumed that the 2 in the states were the ones married. They then asked questions about the first time I talked to his sister, and if she arranged our marriage. So we knew the reason even though they never stated it. But you are correct, most of the time they don't tell you.

On the other hand it is good if you can find out, or if you can figure it out. It is hard to fight if you have no idea.

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Hola todos.....gracias a Dios los encontre a ustedes, yo pense que solamente a mi me habia pasado....les cuento, soy visa K1, colombiana, el pasado 15 de julio fue mi entrevista en la embajada de Colombia y tambien fue negada por falta de evidencia familiar, cuando la boba de la consul no se tomo la molestia de mirar las evidencias que yo llevaba......y el caso fue devuelto.

Ahora estamos a la espera de que mi prometido reciba la tal carta, ya ha llamado muchas veces pero nada que le dan razon.........ls agradeceria que ustedes me contaran sus experiencia, para saber ahora que debemos de hacer.

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um, this is mena, i doubt you'll find many who can answer back in spanish.

LOL

No comprende!!!

here's a rough translation:

Hello all ..... thanks to God encontre to you, I pense that only habia happened to me….them story, I am K1 visa, Colombian, the past 15 of July was my interview in the embassy of Colombia and also it was denied for want of familiar evidence, when stupid of the consul the volume the annoyance not to watch the evidences that I took ...... and the case was given back. Now we are in the hope that my fiance' receives the such letter, has already called often but nothing that gives to reason ......... ls agradeceria him that you told your experience me, to know now that we must do.

Thanks for the translation.

I don't think we can help much unless this person has someone who can speak english. Then they need to study this thread well and contact their representatives.

COUNT ME IN!!
I cant believe they already issued him K3 but we are waiting 3 months in AP since his interview for CR1
makes no sense!
HELPPPPPPPPPPP

hey there,

yes it is important that one find out why their case was returned. i can tell you what happened in most of the cases you ask about but they can also fill you in so i will tell you about my case.

as to your question---why do so many people on here that never had thier petitions returned suggest you find out what is the reason in first place why it was returned?

i can only assume they say that from what they have read. it is great advice even if they dont know it.

the reason for finding out why your case was returned is so you can prepare to fight it or if you filed a K 1 to address it in your new petition.

i am a bit behind----was your case returned? if so when? do you know the reason?

now on to suggestions---if your case was returned----do contact your state rep asap. yes you will have to sign a release for their assistance---fax it for faster service. then your rep can e mail the consulate making an inquiry to the status of your case. the key here is that the consulate usually gives your rep the reason your case was returned. sweet eh?

now you have some amo to use for either the NOIR to come and you can start preparing a response. if you filed a K 1 then you can address the reason for denial in a new petition along with the response your rep received.

we were denied a K 3 visa in march 05 due to the validity of our relationship. ha---the CO didnt bother to ask hubby for our proofs and hubby got side tracked when the CO said he needed more info from America. hubby thought i had forgot some paperwork. he did try to turn in our proofs when he turned in the paperwork but was told to hold onto it.

so many show up for interviews with no proofs to establish a valid relationship which is a requirement so i can only guess the CO thought my husband was one of those who do this. he had all of it in his breifcase. my husband didnt even know he was denied until he called me and he read the letter to me. talk about shock!!!

there is a lot more to our case but it is rather long. the short is i called the consulate to ask why my husband was not allowed to show his proofs to establish we have a valid relationship and they did call him to bring his proof but then changed their minds. i received the NOIR 6 months later and overcame the lies of the CO. in the NOIR is the case laws they use to try and prove you are not a valid couple. i was prepared for this.

it is my opinion that any valid couple can overcome a NOIR. all it takes is a lot of time and work to prepare and your proofs. no invalid couple will take the time or effort to do this. they will try an other route or none at all.

our time line is as follows>>>

we met on line in may 03, i went to meet him in person dec 03. i returned to marry him him april 04. i filed our petitions in may and june 04. we were denied in april 05, received the NOIR in oct 05, received the news that i won in dec 05 and our case was resent to NVC in jan 06. we didnt get a new interview date until may 06. i was there and was invited to speak to the CO during the interview. she profusely appologized for what we went through. we went in to AP for 3 months and my husband finally arrived in aug 06.

if i can help you in any way please just ask.

chi

Hola....tengo visa K1....y me paso lo mismo que a ustedes.......mi caso fue devuelto...ahora estamos en espera de la tal famosa carta.......hemos llamado al DOS, pero han dicho que demora 90 dias, y mi entrevista fue el 15 de julio... la estupida de la consul nos nego la visa.....ni siquiera se tomo la molestia de mirar las evidencias que llevabamos con mi prometido

He buscado mucho sobre esta seccion y me dicen lo mismo que lei...que puede demorar desde 6 meses hasta años.

Chiquita....le agradezco por la orientacion que me pueda dar.

Gracias

I am in total agrement; foreign consulates does these types of things with impunity. I do think we need a separate forum

His interview was september 25

we did not get sent back to US we got denied and told we will get a second interview.
The short dark haired white faced woman with glasses refused to look at the small pile my habibi had with him.
she wouldn't look at anything told him he does not qualify (with no reason) for a visa and asked if he has any emails
he gave her one book (lots of printing!!) of chats (just a sample of 2 days per month for 2 years) and one book of emails (sample too)
when he tried to give her the book of handwritten letters and cards she said i dont want to see those.
she didn't look at pictures she didn't look at the support letters my family wrote
she kept the emails and chats and said they will schedule a second interview.

the 221g she gave said he was denied but they will review the documentation he provided and contact him for second interview when their review is complete.

she didn't even look.

i don't understand how they can lawfully do that. seems to just depend on whatever mood they are in that day.

That is a bit confusing. Why would they say he wasn't qualified, then not deny? Strange response, but at least they are going to review the evidence.

I read somewhere on this site that the embassy used those emails in order to try and catch the spouse or fiance and see if they talk to other women. I guess a guy got caught that way because someone at the embassy posed as a woman and was flirting with the guy. They used it as evidence against him. They got his email address and chat IDs from the evidence he provided at the interview. I don't know if that is the case this time, but you never know. I could have sworn it was the Morroccan embassy in that case too. Maybe once they can't "catch" him doing anything wrong then they will give him his visa (inshallah).

I have never heard that. But IMO good for them! Did you hear it on VJ?