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Captain Ewok
Some members have asked why member xyz and topic zyx have been locked and others not, and then vice versa. The easiest answer I can give is that I have had 30 + reports regarding this forum and members in the forum just today alone and it is hard to sort out the facts. Sometimes I may get things wrong and lock a topic too soon (I am human). On a daily basis I do not read 99.9% of the topics (unless they are reported) and to get to the bottom line I have to then read 20+ page topics to find out who really instigated issues.

That said I am going to take some time to read the recent topics here and find out what has been happening. I may decide to suspend a few people or not but from now on I will have to be faster at the hip to react to problems in this forum as clearly a lot of people are being / have been offended by TOS violations. Thanks for the understanding. I really hope that in particular members stop instigating other members. Thank you. smile.gif


update:

After reading the "Doubts?" thread I will confirm that I did lock it appropriately. The thread had continued in non stop arguments between two members are had gone way off topic.
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(Captain Ewok @ Oct 25 2006, 05:37 PM) *

Some members have asked why member xyz and topic zyx have been locked and others not, and then vice versa. The easiest answer I can give is that I have had 30 + reports regarding this forum and members in the forum just today alone and it is hard to sort out the facts. Sometimes I may get things wrong and lock a topic too soon (I am human). On a daily basis I do not read 99.9% of the topics (unless they are reported) and to get to the bottom line I have to then read 20+ page topics to find out who really instigated issues.

That said I am going to take some time to read the recent topics here and find out what has been happening. I may decide to suspend a few people or not but from now on I will have to be faster at the hip to react to problems in this forum as clearly a lot of people are being / have been offended by TOS violations. Thanks for the understanding. I really hope that in particular members stop instigating other members. Thank you. smile.gif


update:

After reading the "Doubts?" thread I will confirm that I did lock it appropriately. The thread had continued in non stop arguments between two members are had gone way off topic.



So the fact that another member came in attacking others means nothing? I think its pretty clear to everyone here what happened. yes.gif
sarah and hicham
I think it's clear that Babybunny deliberately came after me last night and all day today. Everyone else seemed to notice the same thing.

I'm dissapointed that my topic got locked but do you at least see who the constant instigator is? We were having a good discussion today until she came in and sought me out again. It's rediculous.
Captain Ewok
I did see that they entered the thread and started instigating things. I also then saw that there was a retaliation and an argument ensued. That is what got the thread locked.
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(Captain Ewok @ Oct 25 2006, 05:45 PM) *

I did see that they entered the thread and started instigating things. I also then saw that there was a retaliation and an argument ensued. That is what got the thread locked.



I think its natural to have retaliation when someone is attacked. If the instigator is removed things are normal. yes.gif
sarah and hicham
I just can't believe this. It's clear who the troublemaker is so why not just ban her already?
mybackpages
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Oct 25 2006, 07:47 PM) *


I think its natural to have retaliation when someone is attacked. If the instigator is removed things are normal. yes.gif




Agree. Sarah is extremely helpful in this forum.

Captain Ewok
These sections today have been in issue with regards to the TOS:

• Make comments in a Post either direct or implied toward another member that are purposely designed to upset, antagonize, make fun of, belittle, or otherwise instigate an argument that takes away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users.

• Post any information obtained or originally transmitted in confidence or with the implied belief that the message was to be kept in confidence without the express permission of the original author of the communication. Additionally any direct communication (with the exception of publicly viewable Posts on the discussion forums) between administrators or moderators and a member are strictly prohibited from being Posted to the discussion forums or retransmitted in any way.

Member Disputes. You are solely responsible for your interactions with other Members. VisaJourney.com reserves the right, but has no obligation, to monitor disputes between you and other Members.

Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others.
sarah and hicham
Ok I shouldn't have gotten into anything with her last night because it isn't worth it and you don't get anywhere with her... BUT I think if you read everything in the 2 threads you will notice a trend of her coming around to start fights. I am not the only one who responded to her.
Captain Ewok
If anyone has any comments that they feel more conforable making via PM please PM me directly. All I want to do is reduce the tension in this forum.
mawilson
"Babybunny" has never said a kind word to anyone, or contributed anything
useful to any thread or topic. She is extremely offensive, aggressive, rude
and disrespectful, not to mention a racist.
Together4ever
QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 08:57 PM) *

"Babybunny" has never said a kind word to anyone, or contributed anything
useful to any thread or topic. She is extremely offensive, aggressive, rude
and disrespectful, not to mention a racist.



And this is a fine example of the "disease" in this forum of attacking someone's character publically. I, for one, would love to see these comments go private with Ewok and not more character-bashing. Just my opinion. It's just further TOS violation...
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 05:57 PM) *

"Babybunny" has never said a kind word to anyone, or contributed anything
useful to any thread or topic. She is extremely offensive, aggressive, rude
and disrespectful, not to mention a racist.



Thank you for speaking up.
bucknekkid
There is an "IGNORE" feature on this site. Why not use it and be done with them?
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(bucknekkid @ Oct 25 2006, 06:02 PM) *

There is an "IGNORE" feature on this site. Why not use it and be done with them?



There is also a wide variety of topics and threads, if you don't particularly care for one then you don't need to spoil it for the whole bunch. star_smile.gif
melly
Captain Ewok, thank you for taking the time to check into things and for keeping an eye on the situation. I'm sure (I hope)I can speak for most here when I say that I/we appreciate your efforts.

smile.gif
Captain Ewok
You are welcome. Also as was stated, the accusations and other insults (that were made in this thread and others) about other members only serve to start more disputes. Please keep them to PM's / private and off the forums.
mawilson
QUOTE(just_waiting @ Oct 25 2006, 09:01 PM) *

QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 08:57 PM) *

"Babybunny" has never said a kind word to anyone, or contributed anything
useful to any thread or topic. She is extremely offensive, aggressive, rude
and disrespectful, not to mention a racist.



And this is a fine example of the "disease" in this forum of attacking someone's character publically. I, for one, would love to see these comments go private with Ewok and not more character-bashing. Just my opinion. It's just further TOS violation...

I don't believe in "ratting" on people behind their backs. I blocked Babybunny
over a year ago, but her vile language continues to offend as a result of being
quoted by others I don't want to block.

Anyhow, if there is at least *one* person here who disagrees with the above
statement and thinks "Babybunny" is a nice person, I will retract it and apologise.
A.J.
Wow how did I miss this???

QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 09:09 PM) *

... if there is at least *one* person here who disagrees with the above statement and thinks "Babybunny" is a nice person, I will retract it and apologise.

I think Babybunny is a very nice person.

Retract and apologise, please.
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(Gupt @ Oct 25 2006, 06:14 PM) *

Wow how did I miss this???


LOL laughing.gif You have been neglecting us Gupt!
mawilson
QUOTE(Gupt @ Oct 25 2006, 09:14 PM) *

I think Babybunny is a very nice person.

Retract and apologise, please.

Liar biggrin.gif

You called her a stupid bimbo once -- think I don't remember? tongue.gif
A.J.
QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 09:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Gupt @ Oct 25 2006, 09:14 PM) *

I think Babybunny is a very nice person.

Retract and apologise, please.

Liar biggrin.gif

You called her a stupid bimbo once -- think I don't remember? tongue.gif

I don't recall ever saying that. But yeah me and Babybunny have 'flamed' each other at times. It's possible I said that. Anyway, I've chatted with her on VJ Chat too and she's nice...
mawilson
QUOTE(Gupt @ Oct 25 2006, 09:19 PM) *

I don't recall ever saying that. But yeah me and Babybunny have 'flamed' each other at times. It's possible I said that. Anyway, I've chatted with her on VJ Chat too and she's nice...

Alrighty then, a promise's a promise.

My apologies rose.gif
Captain Ewok
I have taken steps to warn certain members for their activities. Any administrative actions taken were commensurate with the TOS infractions and history on their account for other TOS violations. I hope that after this people will please not instigate others and create unneeded tension. Thank you! smile.gif
morocco4ever
Well I missed the fireworks! I really wanted to participate in that poll. Can we start it again?
Together4ever
QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 09:09 PM) *

QUOTE(just_waiting @ Oct 25 2006, 09:01 PM) *

QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 08:57 PM) *

"Babybunny" has never said a kind word to anyone, or contributed anything
useful to any thread or topic. She is extremely offensive, aggressive, rude
and disrespectful, not to mention a racist.



And this is a fine example of the "disease" in this forum of attacking someone's character publically. I, for one, would love to see these comments go private with Ewok and not more character-bashing. Just my opinion. It's just further TOS violation...

I don't believe in "ratting" on people behind their backs. I blocked Babybunny
over a year ago, but her vile language continues to offend as a result of being
quoted by others I don't want to block.

Anyhow, if there is at least *one* person here who disagrees with the above
statement and thinks "Babybunny" is a nice person, I will retract it and apologise.



Respectfully, you are making assumptions. Please note I did not take any stand one way or the other. I was addressing attacking any member's character publically. I just wish people on this forum would remember we are all united under a common pursuit and stop the endless picking.

Thank you, Ewok for your efforts. They are greatly appreciated.
A.J.
QUOTE(Captain Ewok @ Oct 25 2006, 09:35 PM) *

I have taken steps to warn certain members for their activities. Any administrative actions taken were commensurate with the TOS infractions and history on their account for other TOS violations. I hope that after this people will please not instigate others and create unneeded tension. Thank you! smile.gif

Dude, you are such a tease tongue.gif The least you could do is tell us who's getting what! laughing.gif
Veiled Princess
QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 09:09 PM) *

Anyhow, if there is at least *one* person here who disagrees with the above
statement and thinks "Babybunny" is a nice person, I will retract it and apologise.


She has her days as do we all. She's certainly not the spawn of Satan so please chill out. star_smile.gif
A.J.
QUOTE(Veiled Princess @ Oct 25 2006, 09:36 PM) *

She's certainly not the spawn of Satan...

Yes. There can only be one spawn of Satan and it ain't her.

Muhahahahahaha devil.gif
Veiled Princess
QUOTE(Gupt @ Oct 25 2006, 09:37 PM) *

QUOTE(Veiled Princess @ Oct 25 2006, 09:36 PM) *

She's certainly not the spawn of Satan...

Yes. There can only be one spawn of Satan and it ain't her.

Muhahahahahaha devil.gif

That is an "honor" none here will compete with you for wink.gif tongue.gif
mybackpages
QUOTE(Morocco4ever @ Oct 25 2006, 08:35 PM) *
Well I missed the fireworks! I really wanted to participate in that poll. Can we start it again?




there is a "Doubts II" open and a good coversation going there and you can vote yes.gif

A.J.
QUOTE(Veiled Princess @ Oct 25 2006, 09:38 PM) *

QUOTE(Gupt @ Oct 25 2006, 09:37 PM) *

QUOTE(Veiled Princess @ Oct 25 2006, 09:36 PM) *

She's certainly not the spawn of Satan...

Yes. There can only be one spawn of Satan and it ain't her.

Muhahahahahaha devil.gif

That is an "honor" none here will compete with you for wink.gif tongue.gif

VP,

Of course not. Ya'll would lose so bad....
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(just_waiting @ Oct 25 2006, 06:35 PM) *

QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 09:09 PM) *

QUOTE(just_waiting @ Oct 25 2006, 09:01 PM) *

QUOTE(mawilson @ Oct 25 2006, 08:57 PM) *

"Babybunny" has never said a kind word to anyone, or contributed anything
useful to any thread or topic. She is extremely offensive, aggressive, rude
and disrespectful, not to mention a racist.



And this is a fine example of the "disease" in this forum of attacking someone's character publically. I, for one, would love to see these comments go private with Ewok and not more character-bashing. Just my opinion. It's just further TOS violation...

I don't believe in "ratting" on people behind their backs. I blocked Babybunny
over a year ago, but her vile language continues to offend as a result of being
quoted by others I don't want to block.

Anyhow, if there is at least *one* person here who disagrees with the above
statement and thinks "Babybunny" is a nice person, I will retract it and apologise.



Respectfully, you are making assumptions. Please note I did not take any stand one way or the other. I was addressing attacking any member's character publically. I just wish people on this forum would remember we are all united under a common pursuit and stop the endless picking.

Thank you, Ewok for your efforts. They are greatly appreciated.


I don't get it, what is Mawlison making assumptions about?
Together4ever
It's possible I misunderstood. I'm tired and bit blurry-eyed. Leave it go. I have no desire to play these games.
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(just_waiting @ Oct 25 2006, 06:52 PM) *

It's possible I misunderstood. I'm tired and bit blurry-eyed. Leave it go. I have no desire to play these games.



Playing games? It was a simple question Jean, maybe I didn't understand your post. I was only asking for clarification. I really don't see the need for what you just said to me. no0pb.gif
Happy Bunny
Shhh everyone, keep your secrets to yourselves!!!! whistling.gif
morocco4ever
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Oct 25 2006, 09:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Morocco4ever @ Oct 25 2006, 08:35 PM) *
Well I missed the fireworks! I really wanted to participate in that poll. Can we start it again?




there is a "Doubts II" open and a good coversation going there and you can vote yes.gif


Oh yes, I did find allll 10 pages of it! Hot topic!
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(Morocco4ever @ Oct 25 2006, 07:29 PM) *

QUOTE(mybackpages @ Oct 25 2006, 09:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Morocco4ever @ Oct 25 2006, 08:35 PM) *
Well I missed the fireworks! I really wanted to participate in that poll. Can we start it again?




there is a "Doubts II" open and a good coversation going there and you can vote yes.gif


Oh yes, I did find allll 10 pages of it! Hot topic!



But you gotta admit, it has been a pretty good discussion with only a few bumps in the road! That's progress!
PEGGY
I can think of more than just one person on this forum that run their mouths.


There is a few people I can think of that were chewing each other out thru out a whole thread.


Some people get off on that. yes.gif

rebeccajo
When you all get to cat fighting, spitting and snarling with each other, you might want to keep in mind that there's a good segment of this community who read those threads just for the pure amusement of watching you girls bicker.

Kinda like virtual mud wrestling.

I think you all probably have more dignity as women than to allow yourselves to be drawn down to that level, don't you?
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Oct 25 2006, 08:15 PM) *

When you all get to cat fighting, spitting and snarling with each other, you might want to keep in mind that there's a good segment of this community who read those threads just for the pure amusement of watching you girls bicker.

Kinda like virtual mud wrestling.

I think you all probably have more dignity as women than to allow yourselves to be drawn down to that level, don't you?



we prefer jello laughing.gif
meauxna
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Oct 25 2006, 08:15 PM) *

When you all get to cat fighting, spitting and snarling with each other, you might want to keep in mind that there's a good segment of this community who read those threads just for the pure amusement of watching you girls bicker.

Kinda like virtual mud wrestling.

I think you all probably have more dignity as women than to allow yourselves to be drawn down to that level, don't you?


NEXT Best Post EVER!
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(meauxna @ Oct 25 2006, 08:26 PM) *

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Oct 25 2006, 08:15 PM) *

When you all get to cat fighting, spitting and snarling with each other, you might want to keep in mind that there's a good segment of this community who read those threads just for the pure amusement of watching you girls bicker.

Kinda like virtual mud wrestling.

I think you all probably have more dignity as women than to allow yourselves to be drawn down to that level, don't you?


NEXT Best Post EVER!



You are reminding me of VH-1's "Best week ever!" LOL we need that on VJ. laughing.gif
Bosco
I am banning myself for 24 hours ph34r.gif

peaceful protest
jordanianprincess
QUOTE(Bosco @ Oct 25 2006, 08:54 PM) *

I am banning myself for 24 hours ph34r.gif

peaceful protest



Me too! I second that! Peaceful protest. ph34r.gif
mawilson
QUOTE(jordanianprincess @ Oct 25 2006, 11:59 PM) *

Me too! I second that! Peaceful protest. ph34r.gif

Not you too, silly! You are actually nice to people. biggrin.gif
Private
QUOTE(Captain Ewok @ Oct 25 2006, 09:09 PM) *

You are welcome. Also as was stated, the accusations and other insults (that were made in this thread and others) about other members only serve to start more disputes. Please keep them to PM's / private and off the forums.

I think baby bunny is very nice and we have been talking offline. After what happened to me in the group, I really feel like the other part is one that always starts things. Maybe I am from a different side of the track and I thought that this was a place to come and learn but I know long like it anymore. I do like some of the people that I have meet and I have learned a lot. So with this, I figure I will contribute my part to the board since it has helped me so much and then carry on once I am finished with this "process".
charles!
wow, again i missed the interesting stuff blink.gif
chiquita
QUOTE(Private @ Oct 26 2006, 05:35 AM) *

QUOTE(Captain Ewok @ Oct 25 2006, 09:09 PM) *

You are welcome. Also as was stated, the accusations and other insults (that were made in this thread and others) about other members only serve to start more disputes. Please keep them to PM's / private and off the forums.

I think baby bunny is very nice and we have been talking offline. After what happened to me in the group, I really feel like the other part is one that always starts things. Maybe I am from a different side of the track and I thought that this was a place to come and learn but I know long like it anymore. I do like some of the people that I have meet and I have learned a lot. So with this, I figure I will contribute my part to the board since it has helped me so much and then carry on once I am finished with this "process".




Yes you are quite right private. I see the same thing you have seen and felt from a few memebers here. And if one asks for them to please stop, then they are offended and attack!

I cant see that this forum is likley to change unless these few people are banned or start behaving.

I am hoping you are doing better. Hang in there!

chi
Jenn!
QUOTE(chiquita @ Oct 26 2006, 09:07 AM) *

I cant see that this forum is likley to change unless these few people are banned or start behaving.


Certain members have been suspended after this latest incident. yes.gif
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