Yes, Italy does allow DCF to USC's who have a Permesso di Sorgiorno in Italy! So far it's been real quick for us!

In our case the Adam Walsh Act didn't affect us filing in Italy. Ours was already in Rome when that happened, don't know exactly if it affected following filings, just to be sure, contact the Rome Embassy (where the US citizen will file the I-130) at 06 46 7421 90 between 8.30 am and 12.00 pm. They speak Italian and English and are always helpful and polite.

There are very few cases of Italy DCF here on VJ, don't hesitate to ask, I'll do what I can to help.

Here is a link to the Florence Website:

http://florence.usconsulate.gov/english/

First find out if you may file, then let me know!

Good Luck!

breezy

Thanks for the info breezy Google isn't always your friend

hello to all of you guys
some good news here thanks God our case had been completed and sent to the naple embassay as of april the 17
we are still in the process of collecting all needed documents ...translation is another story
My husband's english isn t good enought to have the interview in english
do you guys know if he can have the interview done in italian ? also how much do those vaccinations cost ? any ideas

3sila,

Congrats!

What language are the documents in? When I recieved Packet 3, it states that "all documents in a language different than English or Italian must be translated into English. The translations must include a signed declaration from the translator which affirms that the translator is competent."

I really do think that he can do his interview in Italian, they might ask how you two communicate if he dosen't speak English well, or something like that. I'm sure that everyone at the Consulate speaks fluent English and Italian. I think I've seen this case in other countries, and I THINK it was fine that they didnt speak English well, you might want to e-mail Naples, I've gotten e-mails back in less than a week sometimes!

IVNaples@state.gov is their e-mail address.

possibly required vaccinations:

-orecchioni (mumps?)
-morbillo (measles?)
-rosolia (rubella?)
-polio
-tetano (tetanus)
-difterite (diphtheria?)
-influenza
-epatite b (hepatitus
-varicella (chicken pox)
-influenza tipo b
-vaccino antipneumotocicco

Applicants should consult their family physicians for their "libretto di vaccinazione", and that only a doctor is able to determine which vaccinations of those listed are appropriate for a person depending on age, etc. Those who do not have their libretto can be obligated to be re-given these vaccinations. The cost will depend on the type of required vaccination as listed below:

costi amministrativi 15 euro
anatoxal (tetano, difterite) 10 euro
energix (epatite 24 euro
morupar (morbillo, orecchioni, rosolia) 20 euro
pneumo 23 (antipneumotocicco) 21 euro
difteral (dtp bambini) 7 euro
hiberix (Hib) 21 euro
varilrix (varicella) non disponsibile
imovax (polio) 10 euro

If your husband is between 18 and 64, it seems to me that according to this chart, he would only need to show proof of having been vaccinated for: Td (tetanus and diphtheria), MMR (combined measles, mumps and rubella) and Varicella (chicken pox).

Hope all this helps, don't forget to leave what you've learned for others!

EDITED TO ADD, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY SMILEYS ARE CLOSE TO THESE VACCINATIONS?!? I THINK IT'S THE B THAT TURNED INTO SUNGLASSES?"?! WHEN I TRY TO EDIT THEY DONT SHOW UP, SORRY.

hello breezy,
thank you so much, you are always alot of help
well we have italian, arabic german documents to translate we taked about it and descided to send all document to be translated in morocco since not only it will cost us less but the translator is sworn and certified ...I mayself used his tranlation when I moved to the states eight years ago
and yes his logo is on all the documents and he signs certifying that the tranlation is true .......
about our language yes actually we are both moroccans that grow up in moroccan till our early tweenties i moved to the usa and he moved to europe and so we have no issues with communication
do you think this would help our case his sister is married to my brother and actually we met in his brother weeding in morocco a year before ours
anyway could you tell me how to get passport pictures taking in italy with all the neccesary requirement ? is is best to print the guide for the photographer or do they have special name for the in italy specialy in rome
thank you so much

I am sure he could have his interview in Italian if the Consul spoke the language, but unfortunately it's not always the case... When I had my interview in 2004 the Consul only spoke English and knew not one single word of Italian, so those who were not fluent in English had either their spouse/fiance/relative as translators or an official one there with them. It wasn't a problem, but they still had to have someone who could translate for her (it was a femal consul at the time). I am sure it is no big deal, but I would email Naples and ask about this particular matter for the time being.



In Italy you have to get your official vaccination record certificate at your local ASL (or where you actually received the shots, not sure about this), not your family doctor (they don't keep records of vaccinations). I am not sure the libretto is an official thing you can actually show at the consulate, I think it's more of a personal record. What I always was told and heard of was the "certificato di vaccinazioni effettuate" which, as I said above, you get at your ASL. If you contracted some of the deseased spontaneously , therefore you didn't need to get vaccinated and don't want to get a shot you don't need now and there is no record of the fact you are immune, then you can get a titer test done. It is bloodwork that shows your antibodies, in Italian it's called "dosaggio degli anticorpi". The test is accepted by the Consulate.

BTW earlier in the thread I posted all the details about this and also a link to the official vaccination requirement chart that shows what you actually need to be immune of since it varies by age.



I don't think you'll have any problems to get your passport style pics taken at any professional photographer, but you can always bring the requirements with you to be on the safe side. BTW just ask for "foto tessera per passaporti" and you'll be fine. There are also automatic machines that do this, at train or subway stations usually, but the quality is not so good and you always end up looking horrid with those machines!


Hope it helps and good luck with everything.

Link to the official vaccination requirements chart
It is from the US embassy in london, but the requirements are the exact same for Italy.

swa- was just wondering how things went? Sure hope all is well, let us know!

3sila- did you find what you needed after churipu's detailed post?

churipu- HI!

TimsDaisy- what about you, what did you find out?

UPDATES PEOPLE, I NEED UPDATES! Need SOMEthing to keep me busy! My husbands DCF interview is coming up on the 8th of May! I'm getting nervous!!

Breezy

Hi breezy!
Well...my update is not the kind that you were probably referring to...but yesterday night I received an email from USCIS regarding my lifting conditions...my case was approved and my new card production was ordered so it looks like I am finally done with immigration! Although I am planning to apply for citizenship in october, then I will be really done FOR GOOD!
Good luck for everything everyone.

churipu

That's great! October's just around the corner, lucky you! Can't wait until we arrive at that point!

Hope to still see you around here!

breezy

DCF Italy Breezy's Checklist for Husband's Interview:

Just wanted to put this in here for any future filers! Hope its helpful!

Link: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=65707

hello breezy and churipu
thank you guys for all the help

Hello to you too and you're very welcome

how much is the cost for the doctor visit ?
how much are the fee for the visa cr1 to pay during the days in naples?
they ask all in cash rigth???

thank u

Hi kappa! And how are you?

This info is more specific in packet 3 which will arrive about 1 month before the interview.

The cost of the Medical Exam is 180 Euros. Extra vaccines are anywhere from 7 to 10 to 21 Euros extra each. My husband took 2 extra, tetanus and one for Morbilla if I remember right. And the total was 235 Euros.

The Visa fee on the day of the interview was 380 United States Dollars Cash. I believe it was also possible to pay at the Consulate in Euros also.

Yes, all cash.

Soon I'll leave a more detailed post on our DCF Italy Experience, I'll be sure to let you know when I've completed it.

Hope everyone is well! Things sure are great here now that we have his visa!

Breezy

breezy,

congratulations for the visa

aw thanks!

I thought everybody forgot about me! Things went well, I was all worried for nothing.

Thanks for noticing 3sila, and how are things with you? Well I hope.


breezy

thank u very much breezy and of course CONGRATULATION

about the fee
they were for wich visa?
i am doing cr1

kappa,

thanks for the Congrats.

As far as I know the fee is 380$ for both types of visas.
When I recieved the information on fees, that was not specified, it mentioned nothing about if you were married for more that 2 years pay this and if you were married for less than two years pay this.
Only immediate relative/spouse visa was specified and is 380$.

Have you got your packet three yet?

MOLLYRENA wanted to thank you too for your post awhile back in the DCF section! Thanks!

breezy,
I am so glad everything went well for you
well for us, the case as you know was completed and sent to the naple consulate 17 of april ..
I have received a letter saying the same and stating that I need to wait for their contact.
it has been almost a month now .of course I am worried because I heard so many horror stories about the mail in italy
I am afraid my husband may never get his packet 4 ..right now i am thinking about emailing or calling the consulate
what do you think breezy any advice

3sila

hello kappa,
i am going thru the cr1 too, what stage are you at ?
best of luck

We got the Med info and form I-864 one month before the interview date. (after a very long story, too many confusing details.)
I didn't use any of those forms because I printed and prepared them before hand, from the USCIS website.
(The ones they sent in the mail were even expired, another long story)

So that's what I suggest to do. That way you don't have to depend on them to do things right.

Form I864 for me and one for our joint sponsor:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

Medical Info: I think in this thread, last page, I've left some details on the Medical.

Also in the packet, it said to fax the DS-230 PART 1 to them, (long story) I talked to them on the phone and they said not to worry about it, so I faxed it anyway. One the interview day, they didnt even have it in our file, thank goodness i was prepared and had copies of it. So you'll have to fax that to them. fax number is:081 583 8394

Also in the packet was a letter to send back them once you prepared all your documents, fax it to them, and they will assign you an interview date. I called them a Looong time before and mentioned we we're more than ready for an interview and somehow shortly later we got an email saying our interview date was set for the 7,and 8th of May.

I hate that this sounds so confusing, they were not organized, and it drove me nuts, but in the end it ddint matter.

I will make a more detailed post about our experience soon, I'll let you all know, just busy at the moment, but if there's anything anyone would like to know just ask, and ill do my best!

TC

breezy

oops forgot this:

Documents:

Passports of those attending the interview, and it must be the kind valid in the U.S.A. and must be valid for at least 8 months after the interview date.

The Birth Certificate: they ask for the certificato di nascita originale o copia autenticata di ciascuna persona il cui nome compaia nella richiesta di visto, inclusa la persona che ha presentato l'atto di richiamo. Il certificato di nascita deve essere presentato per tutti i figli non sposati, di eta inferiore a 21 anni, anche se non desiderano per il momento immigrare. Il certificate deve riportate la data ed il luogo di nascita nonche i nomi di entrambi i genitori, e deve inoltre indicare che si tratta di un estratto dall'anagrafe ufficiale.

So we took my Orginal B.C. and a copy for them, and took my husbands B.C. articolo 3 and an estratto di nascita articolo 3 orginal and copy.

Certificati di Polizia: the origional and the copy, where they lived for 6 months or more in their home country or in the country of their actual residence.

Sentenze del tribunale e rapporti delle autorita carcerarie

Document militari, una copia autenticata di un certificato rilasciato dalle autorita.

Fotografie: 4 foto a colori su fondo bianco, carte lucida. ripreso di fronte, orecchie ben visibili.
(we did ours 5 x 5 and asked for the passport demensions you can check the uscis web site for details)

Garanzie di sostentamento: Form I864 for the petitioner and the joint sponsor if needed.

Certificati di matrimonio: presentare copia autenticata del certificato di matrimonio con il timbro o sigillo dell autorita competente per il relascio. So you need the orginal and a copy. and any divorce papers.

traduzioni: tutti documenti in una lingua che non sia inglese o italiano, devono essere translated into english.

and thanks for the well wishes.

Sorry im so unorganized, long day another long story, going to bed now. lol

breezy

Hi Breezy:
thanks for all the valuable information...
I have a question about the certificato di matrimonio...I got mine and had an Apostille placed on it, but that was a looonnng time ago. Do you think I'll have to get a more recent one printed? I can't remember the name of the place that handles certificati di matrimonio.
Thank you!

So when are you two lovebirds flying home?

oops, i got sleepy and forgot to log out...lol

hey mollyreyna,

We got our MC in the same county where we were married in, Naples. It just took a second for them to get the record, print, stamp and sign another one. At the Consulate at the interview they asked for that and it was just fine. Our other one was from 2004, so we thought we'd be on the safe side and get a more recent one, which was like 8 months ago. While we were in the county hall, they did say that every thing expired except for a BC & Death Cert. Don't ask me.

where are you again, i've totally forgot or have a foggy brain from my needed nap. Where are you and where is he? Not too sure when we will be in the U.S. Hopefully sooon! thanks again for the support you left in the DCF section before our interview, i dont think i mentioned it there.

breezy

3sila: did that help any?

for breezy and 3sila
i am waiting the packet three

when the case is complete and sent to the embassy
how long does it take to arrive the packet three ??? ( the average)

thank u

kappa,

Our I-130 was approved by Rome on Feb 23.
Naples got our case on March 5th.
Packet 3 got to our house on April 10th.
Our Interview was May 7 and 8.
The visa was issued on May 8.

In one of my last posts I gave almost all of the information that they will send, so from that you can already start to get things ready, instead of waiting for packet 3 to get to you. That way you will already be prepared.

hello breezy and kappa,
breezy yes the info about the time was very helpful, I think I should wait some more time before contacting them

in another hand I am filling the cr1 so I have already sent the I 864 the ds 230 part one
and my understanding is they will need ds230 part II and the supporting documents
from my husband during the interview.
you wrote about some kind of rule about document expiring after 8 months
that got me thinking because I am planning on sending our original MC from last year and
it will be almost a year old by the interview time could that be a problem?
kappa,
you and me are both waiting for that appt package
when was you case completed?
mine april 17
I wash you the best of luck

kappa,
did you mean you are waiting for packet 4 ?
you are filing cr1 not k3
am I right?

thank u breezy but we cant compare our history because i did different things for example i file the I-130 in the usa and not in rome and also my history is longer
i file the I -130 in California in november 2006
:-(

3sila
rigth i am doing the CR1 and the case is completed last week
so u shoudl have the interview before me and so
i ll appreacite your help , your tips and your opinion about the interview
when u ll do that

kappa,

oops, forgive me, I totally thought you were DCF. I've confused someone for someone else, and then them with someone else. Sorry about thta kappa and 3sila!

Need more sleep,

breezy

Kappa,
sure I will let you know everything no problem
breezy,
don t worry about it. thank you for all the help

thanks.

I'm glad you two are able to help eachother.

Hey you two,

how's the waiting going?

breezy

[breezy,
still waiting
thank you for asking

i am waiting too

some questions
the embassy will give me the visa to enter in the usa the same day at he end of the interview??
they need also pictures of our wedding? or else with us?
what do they mean for evidence of relationship?
they accept documents also written in italian?

thank u

Dear Breezy:
I am finding your post very useful as I am gathering all of my husband's stuff for the interview. I had a couple questions for you though...
1. - Statement from the Bene saying that no military, court, or divorce applied to him - IS THIS NECESSARY? Or can I simply omit the documents as they don't apply?
2. - Stato di Famiglia - what is this and is it necessary? I remember my husband had to get this from Ecuador before we got married.
3. Most of the letters sent to my husband have the return address with my nickname (Molly). Do you think I should include them or will this through the consular officer off?

Thank you in advance for sharing your wisdom.

Hi everybody!

kappa-

The Naples Consulate did the interview, which was over at about 10.30 a.m. an told us that he should come back at 4.00 p.m. to pick up his visa.

In packet 3, they asked to bring documents and evidence of relationship, which could be anything you have from a statement signed by the beneficiary and the petitioner swearing that they met at a certain place at a certain time, with photos to show the two people were together. It could be wedding pictures, letters from family or friends recognizing you two as a couple. Plane tickets you used to visit eachother. Anything that shows you two do have a real relationship.

During my husband's interview, they asked ONLY for our marriage certificate, and then a few simple questions like how did you meet. We took lots and lots of evidence, just in case they wanted to see it.

The Naples Counsulate accepted documents written in Italian and English. The Rome Embassy only accepted documents in English.

Molly- Hey there, welcome, I'm glad your getting something out of what I've left, I really need to organize a better post on the topic and ask to have it pinned. I will. Anyways,

No, a statement from the Beneficiary saying that no court, military or divorce IS NOT necessary. I went overboard and did that anyways, I didn't know what to expect. They simply asked Were you in the military, every married before?

No, stato di famillia is NOT needed either, once again I went for overkill. I had planned to use it for Evidence of Relationship, it wansn't mentioned anywhere at all, somethign I threw in.

No, I don't think it will throw the officer off, just throw a few in to be on the safe side, ONCE again, I over did it and had 40 of documents and evidence to tote around all day...lol @ me.


Hope this bit helps, let me know if there's anything else and don't forget to leave hints at VJ for others!

Breezy,

I love how thorough you are! Even if some of it turned out to be overkill, you were smart to be prepared. And now you can help all of us who follow after you to know what's really not necessary. On the other hand, I imagine every interviewer is different and depending on the mood of the day, they might want more or less evidence. So it never hurts to go a bit overboard.

We're not going to file until September, but I'm already collecting my documentation. Yesterday, I gathered photos and plane tickets from past visits and printed a few screen shots of my e-mail program showing the abundance of messages exchanged over the years. Since we'll already have been married for three years when we interview, and have been together much longer than that, I doubt they'll ask us for much proof, but it's actually kind of fun putting it all together -- the personal stuff at least. It's a little trip down memory lane.

Hi all:
To summarize, all costs for interview (not including train tickets, hotels, and food) are:

1. $100 (paid to Banca Nazionale di Lavoro) for non-immigrant visa application fee as noted in Packet 3 (Not sure if this only applies to K-3 or to everyone)
2. E180 for medical exam + extra money for vaccinations
3. Another $380 for another Visa fee on day of interview??? (Does this apply to K-3 too?)
4. ???? Cost of taxi from hotel to medical examination doctor ????

Being able to wake up every morning and see the one you love....priceless

Can you confirm?

hi breezy,
I hate to bring these bad news but our case was put under administrative processing...and of course the only thing we can do right now is wait
I hope the best for all of you out there waiting

3sila
oh no i am so sorry

well all i can say that with this delay we will meet eachother at embassy at the same day


breezy
thank u very much for your answers

whattodo- Welcome to our little spot, now you can lurk/wait with the rest of us.
Make yourself comfy and at home! I didn’t ever expect to have so much evidence
but I had a lot of time to prepare for the interview and while strolling down
memory lane, things just… accumulated! I’m glad your having a good time too.

Molly- My husbands medical took place in Vomero, which is far from the Consulate.
We live in Naples (ONLY FOR THE MOMENT!!) so that wasn’t an issue for us.
The Consulate advised us of where it would take place when we got our interview
date. I don’t know if there’s something closer, you’d think they would try to organize things
that way, for our sake, but… seems they don't. Anyways the Instituto Varelli was very nice,
great staff, and easy enough to get to. If you need very detailed driving directions, let me know!

3sila- What does that mean exactly? That they are taking more time to look over your documents/
evidence? Is it a bad thing or does it mean just waiting? Sorry to hear about that, hope all turns out well.

kappa- Your always welcome, I just wish I could help more!

Everybody have a good day! ITS FESTA HERE! We’re going out for ICE CREAM!

hi 3sila dont worry about d A/P guess your husband arabic or muslem no????it,s normal to do it4them,, mine took6months, all u can do is just wait& u can contact DOS after3months or so to know what going on your case....good lack

hi tiano,
yes my husband is muslim and yes he is an arab, I am just worried hearing that it is taking years for some people and we can do nothing about it ..
the only option we have is to wait...we miss each other a lot ..we were thinking he would be at home this summer, ohhhhh well our descision is made to
meet sometime this summer regardless .... I am thinking the worse come to the worse I will just move to Italy this whole immigration problem is taking a toll on us we have been a part for almost a year now


thank you for the assurance

breezy,
it means that the consular put a mandatory hold on our case you can t predict when they will be done ,,,you can only wait

That was kind of tiano to share some insight. 6 months wouldn't be tooooo bad with a visit in between.....

Hi guys.

Is it true that you have to pay the petition fee in Rome with a cashier's check or money order from a US bank (or cash if you're delivering it in person)? People doing DCF in other countries talk about their credit card being charged... I know, this is Italia...
Luckily, I'm planning to be in the US in July and can get a check while I'm there and, luckily but unhappily, I just noticed that the fee is going UP, but I'm just wondering if there's some other way to pay, by mail from Italy without having to go get the check in the US.

And do you know if the fee for the immigration visa (thru DCF) will be the same as for AOS? I don't see a visa fee on the new price list.

Thanks all!

Hey whattodo,

I hate that I don't have good info's on that for you.

We did the check, payable to a U.S. bank and in the very end it went back to the Embassy because it was more than 6 months old. Our case was put on temp hold. I freaked thinking that it was going to be a mess to do that all over again. So I called the Embassy and the nicest lady said, just send cash through UPS with your information to the same address that the petition was sent to. So we did. Not the safest thing in the world, but it worked for us. (thank God)

If I were you, I'd just give them a call, and ask if they would accept a Western Union money order (which are everywhere) or if there are different ways of payment. One would think there would be.....

Thanks Breezy. I'm sure I'll work it out.

Here's another question,
for the Italian husband's birth certificate:
It seems that Italian certificati ed estratti di nascita don't normally include the parents' names, and the US requires the parents' names on the birth certificate, if I understand correctly. I saw on one of your lists somewhere that you had the estratto di nascita, articolo 3, which I've now realized (I think) means one that includes the parents' names. Okay, so how/where did you get that? Can you just go request it at the comune like any normal certificato or do you have to write to someone special or do something special?