GinFar
Oct 5 2006, 09:41 PM
My husband got his NOA letter this week, one week after sending the I-485 to Chicago. Our service center in Florida processes I-765 applications here and we were told it would go through faster making an appointment via InfoPass at the www.uscis.gov site after he received the letter. My question is....once we go to this site, we don't know which he chooses:
Please select type of appointment.
You have received an approval letter or Form I-797 from the Service Center or local office instructing you to come into the office for alien identification card processing / passport stamp.
You have a question about your case.
You need to file an application for yourself or someone else.
You need an immigration form.
It has been more than 90 days since you filed an I-765 and you did not receive an Employment Authorization Card.
You need to replace your Permanent Resident Card.
You wish to speak to an immigration officer.
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If he chooses "you need to file an application..." it directs him to e-file, and I know they need to see the NOA letter to process the I-765. The letter is not an approval letter but it is a I-797C, so does he choose the first? When he does that, it begins to verify his immigration information, and we don't want to go this far until we're sure.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 5 2006, 09:44 PM
I have never heard anybody taking there NOA1 to the service center to speed up the process of the EAD...
Guess you would choose dpeak to an immigration officer
but I cant see how that will speed up your EAD....
Good Luck
Kezzie
GinFar
Oct 5 2006, 09:48 PM
Lots of people are making appointments at their local service centers for a faster EAD Kezzie.

In order to process your I-765, they need proof you have filed your I-485; hence, showing them the letter of receipt.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 5 2006, 10:00 PM
well as the local offices are no longer processing EAD I can see how that can be and as the EAD is sent to the same place as the AOS they will already know you have a NOA1 for EAD and AOS...
But hey good luck... just dont be too disapointed when you get told you are mistaken....
Kezzie
GinFar
Oct 5 2006, 10:03 PM
OK, I bow to the expert...hehe. But IF you are wrong....it happens like that too. I've done my homework on this.
I never said we have an NOA for the EAD, because we only filed the I-485. We're filing the I-765 here, with the NOA letter for the I-485. It seems you have all the answers for everyone at VJ, even after you got your GC in July.
Jenn!
Oct 5 2006, 10:06 PM
May I ask where you heard that you would be able to do this? I've never heard of it either. As far as I was aware, I-765's must be sent to Chicago. I know it used to be that local offices issued EAD's, but not anymore.
GinFar
Oct 5 2006, 10:18 PM
Talking to 3 different agents at 1-800-375-5283 AND from the guides tab here on VJ...
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1k3aos----------
"Some local offices may allow you to submit your I-765 locally with your NOA from the I-485. In this case you would not file the I-765 with the Adjustment of Status Package. You would wait for the NOA from the AOS package and bring it with your completed I-765 to your local office. This means you can possibly have the EAD processed faster (however you will have to wait for the NOA and the local office will also have to allow this)."
Kez/JWolf
Oct 5 2006, 10:26 PM
QUOTE(GinFar @ Oct 5 2006, 11:03 PM)

OK, I bow to the expert...hehe. But IF you are wrong....it happens like that too. I've done my homework on this.
I never said we have an NOA for the EAD, because we only filed the I-485. We're filing the I-765 here, with the NOA letter for the I-485. It seems you have all the answers for everyone at VJ, even after you got your GC in July.
So sorry you think I have the answers for everyone... do know what getting my greencard in July has to do with anything....
But I sugest you go and re-read the instructions for filing for I-765 Alone....
Form I-765 Filed Alone:
If your employment-based Form I-485 is pending, file yourForm I-765 at the same Service Center currently processingyour Form I-485. Include a copy of your receipt notice. Ifyour employment-based Form I-485 has been transferred to alocal office, file your Form I-765 at the Service Center fromwhich your Form I-485 was transferred.
In all other cases, if your response to Question 16 is ©(9), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
P.O. Box 805887
Chicago, IL 60680-4120
Or, for non-United States Postal Service (USPS) deliveries(e.g. private couriers):
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
Attn.: FBASI427 S.
LaSalle - 3rd Floor
Chicago, IL 60605-1098
Sorry if you dont like my help.....
Kezzie
QUOTE(GinFar @ Oct 5 2006, 11:18 PM)

Talking to 3 different agents at 1-800-375-5283 AND from the guides tab here on VJ...
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1k3aos----------
"Some local offices may allow you to submit your I-765 locally with your NOA from the I-485. In this case you would not file the I-765 with the Adjustment of Status Package. You would wait for the NOA from the AOS package and bring it with your completed I-765 to your local office. This means you can possibly have the EAD processed faster (however you will have to wait for the NOA and the local office will also have to allow this)."
This information is out of date..... read the filing instructions....
Kezzie
GinFar
Oct 5 2006, 10:29 PM
Ok, I'll tell the 3 agents that I talked to in the last 2 weeks that Kezzie can't be wrong because she's already been through all of this. I suggest maybe you should actually read what I typed from the beginning.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 5 2006, 10:36 PM
Ok fine I am wrong..... good luck with getting your EAD speeded up....
You may want to do a search on here for the number of times the 0800 has been wrong and gives out totaly the wrong info....
but hey its nothing to me if you have a wasted journey to infopass....
Kezzie
GinFar
Oct 5 2006, 10:41 PM
If the information on VJ is out of date, then I suppose the information the 3 USCIS agents told me by phone is incorrect also?
If it's nothing to you, then why do you stay on VJ constantly informing everyone of your vast knowledge and caring advice? Really, I appreciate your "help", and if you're right, I'll gladly come back and tell you. You have been referring to this as "speeding up the I-765", I'm only telling you what the Orlando office can do according to USCIS agents. The average processing time filed directly at a local office, providing that office processes I-765s tends to be faster than when filing along with the I-485. It's not a wasted trip there for us.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 6 2006, 05:23 AM
Just for info....
Public Notice
July 28, 2006
(Revised August 9, 2006)
USCIS REMINDS CUSTOMERS OF FILING CHANGE FOR EMPLOYMENT
AUTHORIZATION DOCUMENTS
Local Offices To Stop Processing and Producing EADs
Washington, DC – In November 2004, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) published a
notice in the Federal Register informing the public that, as of April 1, 2005, individuals must file
Applications for Employment Authorization, (Forms I-765) at one of the four USCIS Service Centers or
the National Benefits Center (via the Chicago Lockbox). The instructions to Form I-765, Application for
Employment Authorization, with addendum, have reflected this change since then. In the interim, some
USCIS offices have continued to accept employment authorization applications and have produced
Employment Authorization Cards (Form I-688B) using local systems.
Why Eliminate Local Filings?
USCIS is discontinuing local production of the Form I-688B Employment Authorization Card (EAC) in
favor of the Form I-766 Employment Authorization Document (EAD) produced at one central location
using national systems. The locally produced I-688B lacks security features and is not well suited to
employment verification by employers.
Final Implementation
Offices that have continued to accept applications locally may, in their discretion, continue to accept
certain employment authorization applications until October 1, 2006. After September 1, 2006, however,
such local offices will no longer process those cases and will only forward them for Service Centers
processing. Customers seeking the fastest service should send their applications directly to the
appropriate Service Center or Chicago Lockbox as indicated on the Form I-765 instructions. As of
October 1, 2006, USCIS local offices will no longer accept any Form I-765 filings. Local Offices will
work with community, legal and law enforcement organizations to eliminate local filings of Form I-765.
I am still not sure why you think that because I was approved in Nov 2005 I should not be here anymore.... my journey is not over until I become a citizen....
Kezzie
GinFar
Oct 6 2006, 06:14 AM
Good luck with your citizenship.

You should not presume someone thinks you shouldn't be here anymore. I don't own this site.
I've met a lot of people who love being right no matter what. If that's your thing...good for you.
I'll be happy to let you know you're right today when I get a professional answer to this.
I hope you're having a good life here and have many other things to do also.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 6 2006, 06:18 AM
Thank you for your good wishes... I hope you find the answer you are hoping for....
Kezzie
wow - I am totally confused reading this!!

Good luck to GinFar, seriously, however I think you have been mislead by the helpline, but anxiously await to see results in Orlando. I do want to point out to you that Kezzie has provided you FACTS from the USCIS website, not just some random immigration-uneducated rep on the UNhelpful line (they do call it the UNhelp line for a reason!).
Please note that you can file your EAD locally as the memo states, however see verbiage below:
QUOTE
such local offices will no longer process those cases and will only forward them for Service Centers processing. Customers seeking the fastest service should send their applications directly to the
appropriate Service Center or Chicago Lockbox as indicated on the Form I-765 instructions.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 6 2006, 08:45 AM
I hope I am proved wrong.... because if not them another person has had there AOS/EAD delayed because of bad info from the 0800-misinfo line...
Kezzie
Yodrak
Oct 6 2006, 05:13 PM
GinFar,
I think someone is mis-understanding something in you communication with the USCIS 1-800 Misinformation Line, and I'm at a loss as to why the VJ FAQ says what is does about being able to apply locally at some District or Sub offices (local offices such as Orlando are not Service Centers, as you have referred to them in other posts). I can tell you that the USCIS National Customer Service Center has earned its nickname time and again, and that although the VJ FAQ is pretty good it is not perfect and does contain some mis-information.
With regard to processing times, I notice that the Orlando processing date for I-765 (I believe EAD applications for some classes of refuges may be processed locally) is behind the National Benefits Center processing date, and add to that your husband could already have been in queue had he filed his I-765 concurrent with his I-485 to the NBC, I fail to see how you expect that he will get his EAD more quickly through Orlando even if they do accept his application at the InfoPass appointment.
In any event, please do post a report of what happens at the InfoPass appointment.
Yodrak
QUOTE(GinFar @ Oct 6 2006, 01:11 AM)

If the information on VJ is out of date, then I suppose the information the 3 USCIS agents told me by phone is incorrect also?
..... I'm only telling you what the Orlando office can do according to USCIS agents. The average processing time filed directly at a local office, providing that office processes I-765s tends to be faster than when filing along with the I-485. It's not a wasted trip there for us.
GinFar
Oct 8 2006, 09:57 AM
QUOTE(Kezzie @ Oct 6 2006, 09:45 AM)

I hope I am proved wrong.... because if not them another person has had there AOS/EAD delayed because of bad info from the 0800-misinfo line...
Kezzie
Kez/JWolf
Oct 8 2006, 10:12 AM
???
MrsAmera
Oct 8 2006, 10:12 AM
GinFar ----> I hope Kezzie is wrong too but I really don't think so. We were also told by an officer after calling USCIS that our local service center should be able to process our EAD application. We filed with the I-485 and it has been close to 120 days since we filed. We went to an infopass appt on the 90th day and were told "ooops sorry we don't do that anymore - you just have to wait". I waited a month and called USCIS back and the lady told me "No the local center should process your card, your time is over 90 days." She marked our file, sent an inquiry and told us to make another appointment and go back - we are going Wednesday. Honestly I hope she's right but I have a feeling she's not.....
GinFar
Oct 8 2006, 10:16 AM
I get the feeling from your initial reply to the end, that if I tell you that you were only partly right that I know exactly what your reaction will be, but that's ok. I am just posting to clear and clarify everything from the beginning. First, I have never had any bad info from the helpline. Second, I suspect that their reputation for being unhelpful was either from those calling not asking what they need to know clearly, and also from MISINTERPRETING the responses, which is exactly what happened to me here from Kezzie's initial reply. Hers and anothers both said exactly that they have NEVER HEARD of filing for the EAD and the local center and receiving it faster than when sending it along with the AOS. Here is where Kezzie was wrong....sorry

. It had been available, at least here in Orlando, up to September 30 of this year. I got my direction from 3 different agents when I called on 3 different days prior to October 1. This is exactly why I verify and reverify everything I do. It's not stupid agents. I never said Kezzie was quoting anyone, and I have read all of the same info that everyone here has read on the official USCIS site. Everyone needs to keep in mind that things change often with immigration; hence this confusion about locally filing EADs. There have been more changes even in this last month. This is not the fault of the agents on the helpline. They have only current information that they see, often on the exact page I'm looking at while talking to them. It's up to us also to realize this and direct them accordingly to assist us by giving them more information about what we need to know. That is when they usually put you on hold to look further into it. Don't let them rush you. They are normally quite willing once you make them realize the problem. They are not mind readers.
As of October 1, no local offices accept any NEW filings, not just EADs. I was not wrong with the information I had as of September 30.
SO, a lot of people here have been asking a LOT of questions about e-filing the EAD. I will not presume to know everything as some do. I will only say, we did this on Saturday. My husband received a confirmation page to print in duplicate, and it does say that if the paper application requires supporting documents (i.e., 2 photos and a copy of the I-94), they need to be sent with one of the confirmation pages as a cover letter, which we did directly. I'll post dates about these filings later, as I'm sure this is just as new for everyone as it is for us and none of us know if it will truly be faster as is stated officially EVERYWHERE. I'll quote it if I need to defend myself again, which is likely.

This e-filed EAD goes to Missouri, along with our supporting documents, not Chicago, where our AOS is. I'm not sure why about that, but I'd like to know out of curiosity if anyone has an answer for that.
My husband's EAD does state that he will receive a letter for a biometrics appointment, but so does the AOS receipt, so we're not sure if that means he has to go twice or what, but we'll find out later. NO big deal if he has to go twice.
Also, yes, I called the local offices service centers often by error. It's too bad everyone catches errors from everyone else, and not their own. I know it's not a service center.

If that small error is a big deal, sorry about that. WE are all only human here, ALL of us.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 8 2006, 10:18 AM
Hope it all works out for you... exactly they way you hope...
Kezzie
Jenn!
Oct 8 2006, 10:24 AM
But even before the change effective October 1, 2006, I thought local offices would issue interim EADs, but not regular EADs. Those need to be filed through Chicago.
FYI, applications are sent to the Chicago lockbox and forwarded from there to Missouri.
GinFar
Oct 8 2006, 10:29 AM
It will. We're confident about it. Thanks for the fast reply. I knew you would be there. You always are. I'm signing off. We have a life outside of VJ as much fun as this is. I'll post as soon as we have something new about the e-filed EAD. I'm feeling really good about him working soon. Another thing, I agree with everyone who says the temporary permit is basically a waste of time, of course, unless you have connections to be employed temporarily. All of his almost-offers for work were met with, "Call us when you get your new card..." We went through a lot to have him come in via JFK just to be sure to have his I-94 stamped, and he never worked. Now his 90 days is coming, so there's no point in continuing to try to find work. He's been so good trying to stay positive and keep busy, God love him.

I know once he gets this EAD, he'll feel so much better.
I wish we had gone to Orlando for it before September 30, then I'd have the proof everyone refuses to believe existed prior to now, but what matters most is what's accomplised in the end.
Prior to October 1, you could get new EADs, not just interims.
Jenn!
Oct 8 2006, 10:30 AM
OK, not sure why you're so hostile, but good for you.
GinFar
Oct 8 2006, 02:03 PM
I always find it amazing that when people defend their research to those who seem to behave as if they can't possibly be wrong about any point they are said to react in a hostile way. I suppose I should have just said thank you to the first response and bowed to those more knowledgeable (even if onlyh in their own minds

), but I have confidence in my research and am happy to share it the same as everyone here. I too am not sure why the insecure need to insult others by calling them hostile but I assure you, I was smiling at every keystroke I typed. I have been helped by many on VJ and made many friends, and met others who seem to have nothing else to do but reply to every post with free "advise". I wonder if they do anything else in their lives, but that's for them, not me.
My husband and I always are grateful for the "helpful" assistance from those who have facts based on thorough research. It's why we keep coming back here when we go through another hurdle in this long process.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 8 2006, 02:37 PM
Nothing I told you was not backed up by fact.... and no I am not insecure and yes I have plenty of thing in my life other than VJ...... But I am glad you think that prior to the end of sept you could have walked in and got your EAD locally by just filing the form and a copy of your NOA1 for AOS... you find us evidence of people who have been able to do this in the last year because I have not seen anyone on here or other forums that have been able to do this... the only thing some offices did was accept the forms and forward them to the lockbox....
As for knowing everything NO I DONT I am still learning but I am happy to say around and try to help other who may need it..... you are hostile in your manner and qick to insult... but hey everyone to there own.. you feel you have reasons and who am I to try to help someone who cant be helped.....
Kezzie
GinFar
Oct 8 2006, 03:04 PM

You show ME where I said you could walk in and get it....and I never said they were not forwarded. I said they were processed faster than if they were sent with the AOS, providing the district office took them, and now nobody does, so aren't you being a little defensive if you aren't trying to be right about something that is basically a moot point now? Try to be a little different and not so predictable. It's more refreshing like that.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 8 2006, 03:06 PM
Yeh they are forwarded to the same place your AOS is sent so you have not gained anything.... you have lost time by waiting..... you may catch up a bit of time by e-filing but who know...... not I
Kezzie
QUOTE(GinFar @ Oct 8 2006, 11:29 AM)

I wish we had gone to Orlando for it before September 30, then I'd have the proof everyone refuses to believe existed prior to now, but what matters most is what's accomplised in the end.
Prior to October 1, you could get new EADs, not just interims.
I haven't any clue how Orlando operates, so what you stated prior to Sept 30 may well be true, however you posted on
October 5th that you wanted to set up an Infopass to hand your EAD app to the local office. Regardless if 3 agents told you previously, and as you stated things change so frequently! Your information was outdated, and the information we provided you was accurate!
You e-filed, THAT is your "accomplishment" as well as arguing a moot point.
Good luck to ya!
Kez/JWolf
Oct 8 2006, 05:36 PM
Good point lal brandow....
Kezzie
GinFar
Oct 11 2006, 09:00 AM
If anybody can read, I was the one who first pointed out that Kezzie, the forum post hopper, was the one arguing a basic moot point. I was happy to clarify the fact that I received my information the last week of September, not knowing and not being told that changes would occur Oct.1. We always verify everything before we go to appointments, even at the SS office. Verifying that we could do this in Orlando before the scheduled appointment has nothing to do with the amateur immigration advisors here. Why was I not told by any of the three agents prior to Oct. 1? Because the agents only tell you current info at the time that you request it. If you want to know if changes are coming, you must ask, then they research it while you hold. WE are responsible, not them, for what we ask from them. There's a term for people who pretend to be helpful until you try to act like you know what you're talking about, then they manipulate things and have everyone believing you're hostile. WE know them as control freaks. Kezzie says she's here to be "helpful" to those who need it, but she and a few select others, clearly NEED to feel helpful for their own reasons. I'll bet anything, Ms. VJ, who has nothing better to do than to put down others' knowledge, then call them hostile when they even try to defend what they researched themselves, will need to have the last word, so I relent....have the last word. YOU always do on nearly every forum.
For my true VJ friends, and I've got some good ones here, WHO ARE VERY NICE THANK GOD, Farouk has his biometrics appointment next week, only 2 weeks after sending in the AOS. When we go, we're going to ask about the notice for a biometrics for his EAD also. I wouldn't think he has to do it twice, but it's OK if he does.
Jenn!
Oct 11 2006, 09:05 AM
It was me, not Kezzie, who said that you were hostile. I apologize, I must have misread the tones of your posts, beginning with this one:
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...st&p=491534
GinFar
Oct 11 2006, 09:16 AM
I know you did the name calling first Jenn, but Kezzie's had more of the bully bite to it. This is childish and silly, having to defend myself to the two who need to post advice at nearly every forum. I'm off to work. You all have a wonderful day here, again. I'll just reply to my friend's posts with congrats and things like that, because it's obvious nobody else can know anything. Go ahead, the last word is yours, a condescending one, no doubt. Ciao.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 11 2006, 09:18 AM
QUOTE(GinFar @ Oct 11 2006, 10:00 AM)

If anybody can read, I was the one who first pointed out that Kezzie, the forum post hopper, was the one arguing a basic moot point. I was happy to clarify the fact that I received my information the last week of September, not knowing and not being told that changes would occur Oct.1. We always verify everything before we go to appointments, even at the SS office. Verifying that we could do this in Orlando before the scheduled appointment has nothing to do with the amateur immigration advisors here. Why was I not told by any of the three agents prior to Oct. 1? Because the agents only tell you current info at the time that you request it. If you want to know if changes are coming, you must ask, then they research it while you hold. WE are responsible, not them, for what we ask from them. There's a term for people who pretend to be helpful until you try to act like you know what you're talking about, then they manipulate things and have everyone believing you're hostile. WE know them as control freaks. Kezzie says she's here to be "helpful" to those who need it, but she and a few select others, clearly NEED to feel helpful for their own reasons. I'll bet anything, Ms. VJ, who has nothing better to do than to put down others' knowledge, then call them hostile when they even try to defend what they researched themselves, will need to have the last word, so I relent....have the last word. YOU always do on nearly every forum.
For my true VJ friends, and I've got some good ones here, WHO ARE VERY NICE THANK GOD, Farouk has his biometrics appointment next week, only 2 weeks after sending in the AOS. When we go, we're going to ask about the notice for a biometrics for his EAD also. I wouldn't think he has to do it twice, but it's OK if he does.
As it would appear you have great issues with me... feel free to use the ignore button.... that way you wont see any of the posts I make.... If you think that your attitude is going to stop me from trying to help people who are looking for help then my dear you are so wrong... but that is nothing new for you is it?
Kezzie
GinFar
Oct 11 2006, 09:21 AM
Adorably predictable at getting the last word. Now you've managed to turn it all around to tell me I can't be wrong when it was you from the first. You just don't like that I have your number. You aren't helping people as much as everyone knows you have a need to feel helpful, so please, feed your ego. I have a life and I'm off to work. I had a little nagging question as to if you actually do anything else, but you answered that already. I don't have to know you to know your type.
Kez/JWolf
Oct 11 2006, 09:30 AM
GinFar you can continue with your personal attacks all you want.

I have nothing to hide from you or anybody.... You say you know me or my type well congratulations on that one...

I do not have to give you any reasons for my being here and why I post... if you dont like it then you can always put me on ignore....

from the way I see things you are the only one here who has make remarks about what you see as peoples faults....
Now hurry away to work and have a nice day...
Kezzie
Yodrak
Oct 11 2006, 10:54 AM
GinFar,
The National Benefits Center (NBC) is in Missouri, the NBC's receiving facility is in Chicago. Clerks in Chicago open the submissions, screen them for completeness, put them into files, and generate the Receipt Notices, then ship the files to Missouri for adjudication. Your AOS is in Missouri, unless they've finished with it and have sent it on to either the CSC or Orlando.
My reading of the I-765 e-filing instructions is that the supporting documentation, which must be sent by mail, should be sent to Chicago. But I did read through the instructions rather quickly and superficially.
When is your InfoPass appointment with the Orlando Sub Office?
Yodrak
QUOTE(GinFar @ Oct 8 2006, 12:46 PM)

..... This e-filed EAD goes to Missouri, along with our supporting documents, not Chicago, where our AOS is. I'm not sure why about that, but I'd like to know out of curiosity if anyone has an answer for that.
.....
GinFar
Oct 11 2006, 04:52 PM
It goes to Missouri, per the instructions on the confirmation letter received once the e-filed I-765 is sent, or at least my husband's was required to go there. I've seen some posts saying they didn't have to send supporting documents with the e-filed I-765. Unless there are different instructions for some reason, I'm wondering if the section was missed by some on the e-file document stating that whatever documents are required from the paper document must be sent with a copy of the confirmation page received at the end of the e-filing. In any case, we did what was required. Thank you for your refreshingly polite post. It is much appreciated.
Yodrak
Oct 11 2006, 05:28 PM
GinFar,
Thanks for clarifying where the instruction to send the supporting documentation to Missouri came from. I too would follow the confirmation notice instruction rather than the web site instruction in the case of a discrepancy.
Yodrak
QUOTE(GinFar @ Oct 11 2006, 07:22 PM)

It goes to Missouri, per the instructions on the confirmation letter received once the e-filed I-765 is sent, or at least my husband's was required to go there. I've seen some posts saying they didn't have to send supporting documents with the e-filed I-765. Unless there are different instructions for some reason, I'm wondering if the section was missed by some on the e-file document stating that whatever documents are required from the paper document must be sent with a copy of the confirmation page received at the end of the e-filing. In any case, we did what was required. .....
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