As very, very soon we are ready to jump in the "pool" by sending the 1st forms, we need to enlarge our perspective more; so as this thread's title puts it, what are options available, once reunited in the US for the beneficiary of work and/ or study? What I mean by work, means does it exist any temp work permit while waiting for the official green-white card, and by study I mean university studies. I have noticed many are getting into despair while the waiting time, so we try to figure out how to be creative in those transitional and obviously long moments. I have searched and asked previously, my eyes are burning, no clear answer found, maybe i did not search well, or maybe those options do not exist...
Anyone?

A K-3 is authorized to live in the US for a period of two years while they pursue Permanent Resident status.

They are eligible to apply for a work permit (EAD).

An EAD allows them to:
- apply for and receive (eventually) a Social Security number.
- apply for a driver's licence (often also requires a SS#)
- work

As for what is required for your local school, check out their admissions policies.

Alternately, don't forget that the Immigrant Visa becomes a Green Card status at entry. If immediate work authorization is an issue, consider bypassing the k-3, as the EAD will take a minimum of 90 days to get and there will be a lag until the SS# can be issued after that.

The K-3 is primarily JUST to bring the foreign spouse to the US---that is supposed to be enough for you.

Meauxna: with all due respect, I am an adult and know what is or not "enough" for me, ok? Second, thank you for your answer, but it's too general, my question was more specific and, knowing that the K-3 is a sort of dual visa or something like that, i have all the rights to explore its options, if they exist. I want to see if somebody has a precise answer, as i need to know.

Knowledge,

Meauxna gave you a very precise answer - as precise as is possible without a more specific question from you.

While you may know what is "enough" for you, she does not. Further, it was not her opinion that she was giving you.

Yodrak

It seems you've misunerstood my reply---*I* am not saying that 'just being here should be enough', that is my interpretation of what the K-3 *law* is about. There are no benefits built into K-3 status except you can live in the US for two years while pursuing PR status. Oh, and you can re-enter the US after travel abroad.

What part of my answer is too general?
A K-3 must apply for a work permit, which will take a min. of 90 days after application. They must then apply for a SS# to be employable. Work options won't start for a K-3 until they have those two documents.

School will depend on the policy of your local institution. There is no restriction against a K-3 going to school; depending on the school, the K-3 may have to pay out of state or international student rates, unless they will accept *your* residence as transferable.

knowledge, you're posting in the K3 area, and may already know that in order to petition for the non-immigrant K3 visa, you must first petition for the immigrant visa, with form I-130. It's conceivable that the foreign spouse enters on K3 and goes back to their country later for the immigrant visa interview. In some cases, this may be a quicker and more convenient route to a greencard. Whatever you choose, count on a long wait for the spouse to enter and another wait until they're a breadwinner.

Yodrak,
You give very valuable infos here and know, they are more than much appreciated. I prefere you let that between me and mauxna. But, as you intervened, i only would tell you that, some do not read the exact words i have used, and i searched info, not for EAD, as that lady put it, but on something else, please read again my post.

Meauxna, now your 2nd post is more clear to where i want to know more...thanks, it's very helpful, I assure you. My question, to repeat it, is not about EAD, I know what's an EAD...as you find that on the initial source...everywhere and all here repeat that often in many posts...i really (lol) want to know what i believe more specific, and, (lol) again I repeat: while waiting for the EAD is there any option for a "temp work permit" i quote my initial post...And precisely for that moment, not after, or whatever comes after...precisely that moment....

Thanks to Jersey Girl, but again, my inquiery was about that specific moment...actually i was reading your thread that clarified much more things for this route...as I have put it and again, congratulations! i can imagine after all this time how happy you can be...

And to all reading, a little cute wish i have...i notice some get too hars on the newbies...and i do not appreciate it...either the tone, the emoticons as strange inuendos...those who still do that...just think a moment that all we are in a sensitive mood, so it's not really necessarly to put more negativity on what we want to do and learn from this fascinating adventure...!!! thanks for reading!

Ok, Meauxna...did I make a full of myself? my hubby who's english is better than mine explained to me, so I appologize! but he still could not answer my question lol...i suppose if nobody had the experience, here, i'll have to ask to every offical i'll meet during this process.

Knowledge, the people who have answered you do have the experience. This isn't a difficult question at all -- you're just not liking the answer. The EAD is the temporary work permit.

Please take a moment to think about this: why would there be a temporary work permit for the period while you're waiting for your temporary work permit?

Peace,
Bob

And I don't mean to be rude, Knowledge. I know this stuff is very frustrating, especially when you have a language barrier to contend with. This stuff is hard to understand even for native English speakers (and I should mention I'm not one of them -- I was born and raised in Indonesia).

Peace Twice,
Bob

You will not have work authorization of any kind until after you arrive and have applied for the 2 year EAD, which will take about 3 months to get.

Expect to be bored for that 3 months.

In this case, the "newbie" has been too harsh to the others.

Bob,
You are not at all rude, and your argument is very intelligent, and appreciated. Thanks...my brains do not function (lol) with what i like or not in this subject, that is precisely why i have opened it here, to be in the reality and not imagining stuff...in addition, as another conversation in another thread about this exact subject has taken place, i have heard that is possible to obtain....but i do not remember when, i have read so much forms etc to get accustomed and understand this abstract process...I'm a researcher in my profession, so i have to stay open...and i already come to the conclusion from the above reactions, that it might be possible that this possibility does not exist....
What confused me is that the temp work permit exists only as an extension after the 90 days...so i was wondering if this can exist before...included in the 90 days frametime of waiting....
You know i realized that some sometimes, because they are not accustomed to use a thought from more than 1 point of view, do not realize this type of ideas...for ex: some say like only the titts...but they do not think or associate to what person they are attached to....lol...ok this is to try to be a bit humourous...i don't know if it worked...or making a full of myself again lol...in any case...this is a passionate site...what i like!!!
Cheers and thanks for your attention...




reba: correction: i never get bored!....but thanks for your reply...

knowledge,
I think I see the problem.. some words have a very specific/special meaning when used in the language of immigration---a different meaning maybe than when in regular English.
I don't think you made a fool of yourself, by the way, it's all just learning!

The EAD *is* the 'temporary work permit'. When you used that phrase, I assumed you were using it in place of "EAD" but now that you explain further I can see what you meant.

When you come with a K-3, there is *nothing* you can do to work sooner than the 90 days when you are applying for EAD. You CAN go to school, but you may find a problem until you have the SS#, which you can only get *after* you have an EAD (crazy sometimes!). You have to speak to the school you want to go to about what they need.

How have i been harsh?...also you forget i appologized...does that count for you?

ps: i have been given, as a newbie, some false advice...some pm me saying they want to help, i have written personal info, they never replied back...I do not think, not knowing the person, more that 1 or 2 posts, you can promise, to a newbie, yup, i insist, you can help....this is wrong...and all new exactly how some are autoritarian...But, if i make a mistake...i appologize...ok? i think that for a newbie this is quite fair, in despite of how they are treated...so, you not explaining in what i was harsh, has no validity to me...thanks!

Ops, sorry, i wrote in the wrong place...mixed in those quotes buttons, please read the above, my last post to you, where i included a flower for you!....

The website gives clear guidelines. Apply I130, K3, come to US and apply EAD, AOS. EAD takes 90 days at least and SS# takes three weeks. 99% of employers and schools require SS# so no work can be done in the interim as it is illegal to work without EAD. In state tution is for residents. K3 visa holders are not residents. Residents are 'Permanent residents' . So tution is out of state.

This is no general info, its very specific. The spouse coming to US is the best benefit.

hi knowledge, I'm glad we understand each other now!

About this post above---I'll put my usual 'advise' for internet users here. It is not a good idea to solicit or accept immigration help in private (PMs email chat etc). When you post your questions and answers to the boards, incorrect info can be corrected, other readers can benefit from the dialogue and learn something that helps them (that is the purpose of these kinds of discussion boards!) and both the reader and the writer are better protected.

It's just not a good idea to give or take immigration information in private.

It sounds like contacting the school is your next step. When you do, find out if you can be counted as a local resident based on your husband's residence. If they treat you as a non-resident student or international student, the tuition fees will be VERY high in comparison, so that is what you should try to avoid.
Also, it should not be a requirement that you have a SS# to enroll as most students can't get one now either, so ask them questions.

I admire all your planning--I think it makes for a happier transition, too! Awesome even!

Now I'm just curious.. where are you moving from?



Actually, I don't think that is correct everywhere; it is worth checking out the specific school one wants to attend.
Example: 'resident' means one thing to CIS, another thing to IRS and DMVs.

It sounds as if you read a recent thread talking about a K-1s employment authorization. They *do* have the ability to get a special work permit in their first 90 days.

K-3s do not have this option.

Meauxna, just out of curiosity, what is the rationale for this distinction?

Cat

I have a question about EAD. I'm a newbie too so please be nice. We are submitting our I-129F next Monday so it'll be a while until I get my K-3 but when I do get it, do I have the option of going to the US right away or wait a bit? Once I get into the US, I will not be able to work until I have the EAD approved (which will take 3 months minimum). My husband and I do not want me to be sitting there doing nothing. (We have a hefty mortgage in the US.) My question is: Is it possible to get the K-3, file the EAD while I'm still in Canada, wait for 3 months until it's almost time for it to be approved and then fly to ths US? Please advise Thanks!

I'm pretty new, too, so I can't tell you for sure it can be done, but maybe I can make a suggestion. I'm sure somebody who knows better will tell you if I'm full of @#$%.

A plus to this idea would be that with the K-3 in hand you could visit your husband in the US without a problem (since it's a multiple entry visa) while you wait for the EAD to kick in.

But if you could stand an extra three month separation waiting for that, why not consider just going for a CR-1/IR-1 so you can avoid messing with the EAD/AOS hassle completely? You wouldn't be able to visit in the meantime, but in the end it might be a cheaper and less complicated option.

Peace (and welcome!)
Bob

Yes, i have learned my lesson, it was not a good idea to accept; i was telling my hubby then that i did not feel confortable with what the person was saying.

Only if you tell me about your nickname!

The only 'reason' this happened is that when the law was written, K-3s were not given 'employment authorization incident to status' as the K-1s had been in the way back when.

The K-3 was a hastily written piece of work from what I have gathered, and understanding its history helps understand its use a little. Back when, I-130s regularly took up to 3 years to get approved. Clearly that is too long to be separated from one's spouse. I presume that someone smooshed two processes together to come up with it---as I said elsewhere, the attitude seemed to be 'hey, be happy you can have your spouse with you in the US', not 'hey, let's fix this problem'.
In the past year, a promise was made to users of the system that cases would be adjudicated within six months, and believe it or not, they are doing a really good job at meeting that goal.

The K-3 isn't really a Best Option in my book, unless as bhangrabob (another good nick!) suggests, you use it for visits if you still have to work in your home country. People from some countries find that they have an easier time passing through a K interview, or in some cases, it is just faster to get a k interview than an IV interview (Mexico for example). It's not fair that people are cut off from the proper immigrant visa processing by such long wait apart. The NVC may have made life easier for the consulate, but not the users.
It really depends on the family---there are many ways to put the immigration puzzle together.

All of the above is a really long winded way of saying "Because".

And I just added in a bunch--if what I wrote does not make sense, please ask me to clarify.

Sure, you could do this. You can also just wait for the Immigrant Visa, or use the K-3 to visit (and file that EAD while you're there!).
The k-3 does give you a lot of flexibility to be between both countries.

ops again, i answered in the wrong place...there where i'm dancing...How these buttons work? they are a bit too many for me...lol

Awsome! I have the same thought also Ada....and thanks again Meauxna!!!!

Also, thanks for the clarification of y our statement related to K-1 where such possibility is possible lol...now i know from where i have heard of or read about!...

meauxna and ada,

A K3 has to include a copy of their I-94 if filing as (a)(9), or a copy of their filed I-485 (or together with I-485) if applying as a (c )(9) family-based applicant for adjustment.

Either way, they have to enter the USA before they can apply for EA.

Yodrak

Yodrak, since the K-3 is a multiple entry visa, she can come in and apply then go back for the 3 month wait, right?

And meauxna, I was going to mention your nick as well. If you don't mind saying it here, is your real first name Mona, or even better, is it actually meauxna?? Even with a few years of French in school it took me a few posts for the pronunciation of your name to sink in. Don't you hate it when you see a screen name and you can't figure out how in Heaven's name it's meant to be said?

My nick is my e-mail account name. My name is Catalina Moody, and honestly the answer is as simple as when I signed up for my e-mail account I couldn't find a name that wasn't bloody taken, so I switched up my initials. Not a very clever story, really. I should have made up something much better!

Cat

For a Canadian with K3 to go back home to wait on the EAD, you'll have to come back at least once during the 3 month wait for the biometrics fingerprinting.

that does add considerably to your expenses, depending where in the US you're moving to, and where in Canada you live now. That's 2 trips just to wait on the EAD (once to get the I-94 at POE, and once for biometrics). You may find that either just moving and waiting it out, or waiting for the CR1/IR1 visa is less costly.

Big Oops by me. I failed to spell out what was obvious to me.

The K-3 MUST enter the US before applying for an EAD.
Thank you Yodrak!





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