ColombianoGringo
Apr 10 2008, 03:44 PM
One more question folks.
As I mentioned, my wife will be faxing the packet 3 forms to the embassy tomorrow. The packet 3 on the embassy website is in English, however a member who recently had her interview sent me a PDF of the packet 3 in Spanish. I assume it would be OK to use that Spanish packet and we plan on doing so. Is there any problem with this?
Thanks again,
CG
ColombianoGringo
Apr 10 2008, 03:56 PM
OK. Now I'm confused. In looking at the K visa instructions on the embassy site, it states to fax in forms DS-2100 and DS-230 Part I. However, the Spanish version states to send in OF-169 with DS-230 Part 1 and says nothing about the DS-2100. Which forms do we need to fax to request an interview for a K-3?
Thanks,
CG
Andres and Diana
Apr 10 2008, 04:39 PM
CG,
Andres sent his paperwork last week...
This is what you need:
Coverletter
OF-169
DS-230 part 1 only (unsigned)
Copy of beneficiaries passport.
I called today to DOS and they stated that Packet 4 was mailed out Monday and that our Interview is May 22nd!!
Anyone else gonna be there that date?
Let me know!
Diana B
Mononoke28
Apr 10 2008, 04:56 PM
QUOTE(ColombianoGringo @ Apr 10 2008, 02:56 PM)

OK. Now I'm confused. In looking at the K visa instructions on the embassy site, it states to fax in forms DS-2100 and DS-230 Part I. However, the Spanish version states to send in OF-169 with DS-230 Part 1 and says nothing about the DS-2100. Which forms do we need to fax to request an interview for a K-3?
Thanks,
CG
CG,
Form DS-2100 and OF-169 are the same, they're just called different. The OF-169 is on page 5 of the K1 packet found in the US Embassy web site.
Diana
Danmal
Apr 10 2008, 09:44 PM
Hello Colombian Club, you guys are wonderful and I wish I had found this forum before I had started the process for our K1... You surely do make it seem like my fiance and I are not alone...
All that aside, here's where we currently are in the process. The Embassy in Bogota has received our approved petition and sent the Packet 3 to my fiance on 3/31/08. We emailed the Embassy yesterday, 4/9/08, to determine this. However, Juliana has yet to receive the Packet 3. We (when I say we I mean she) has read here on these forums that it is possible to send the OF-169 & DS-230 with a letter requesting an interview without at all receiving the Packet 3 to have our interview scheduled. I would like to confirm the ability to do this or take on any advice at all for our current situation... I've already emailed the Immigrant Visa Unit to resend the Packet 3, and pleasantly asked for a Fax # & Address (which soon after I found in the sample Packet 3, doh). Juliana and I are chomping at the bit to send it and have our interview scheduled, but we don't want to get ourselves in any trouble down the road by doing it. Hopefully someone sees this soon and can help us with our situation. Not that difficult of one, right?
Thank you!
Dan
ColombianoGringo
Apr 11 2008, 10:05 AM
Than you both for the clarification.
Diana B,
When you say cover letter, do you mean a fax cover sheet or an actual cover letter. If so, what should it say?
Thanks,
JC
Mononoke28
Apr 11 2008, 11:05 AM
QUOTE(Danmal @ Apr 10 2008, 08:44 PM)

Hello Colombian Club, you guys are wonderful and I wish I had found this forum before I had started the process for our K1... You surely do make it seem like my fiance and I are not alone...
All that aside, here's where we currently are in the process. The Embassy in Bogota has received our approved petition and sent the Packet 3 to my fiance on 3/31/08. We emailed the Embassy yesterday, 4/9/08, to determine this. However, Juliana has yet to receive the Packet 3. We (when I say we I mean she) has read here on these forums that it is possible to send the OF-169 & DS-230 with a letter requesting an interview without at all receiving the Packet 3 to have our interview scheduled. I would like to confirm the ability to do this or take on any advice at all for our current situation... I've already emailed the Immigrant Visa Unit to resend the Packet 3, and pleasantly asked for a Fax # & Address (which soon after I found in the sample Packet 3, doh). Juliana and I are chomping at the bit to send it and have our interview scheduled, but we don't want to get ourselves in any trouble down the road by doing it. Hopefully someone sees this soon and can help us with our situation. Not that difficult of one, right?
Thank you!
Dan
Hello Dan and welcome to VJ and to the Colombian club,
Yes, if you're sure the embassy already received your case from the NVC, then your fiancée can fax packet 3. The documents she would have to send were listed by Diana B yesterday.
I recommend that you, and by you I mean you, read through all the necessary pages of this thread so you know what to expect from here on out regarding medical, vaccines, lab work, and inteview at the embassy.
Diana
ColombianoGringo
Apr 11 2008, 11:46 AM
Well. My wife faxed in the documents requesting the interview along with a simple cover sheet. She will be dropping it off at Servientrega after lunch.
What is the best way to find out the interview date? I know they publish a list on the 20th, but how soon will NVC know about the interview? Do I just call the same main phone number at NVC or do would it be better to call this "Visa Office" I've heard about?
Thanks for all the help.
margara&john
Apr 11 2008, 11:57 AM
QUOTE(ColombianoGringo @ Apr 11 2008, 11:46 AM)

Well. My wife faxed in the documents requesting the interview along with a simple cover sheet. She will be dropping it off at Servientrega after lunch.
What is the best way to find out the interview date? I know they publish a list on the 20th, but how soon will NVC know about the interview? Do I just call the same main phone number at NVC or do would it be better to call this "Visa Office" I've heard about?
Thanks for all the help.
hi everyone, we just got the good news.... VISA APPROVED!!!! We are going to go celebrate, but Monday I'll report how everything went at the embassy.
john
Andres and Diana
Apr 11 2008, 01:00 PM
QUOTE(margara&john @ Apr 11 2008, 09:57 AM)

hi everyone, we just got the good news.... VISA APPROVED!!!! We are going to go celebrate, but Monday I'll report how everything went at the embassy.
john
Yay John!!! Congratulations!!!! Cant wait to hear how it went!!
CG,
The best way to find out is to call the Department of State or DOS...(thats the washington number I refered to in an earlier post). Call them in about 3-4 business days to see when your interview is.
It'll probably be just a couple of days after ours!
As for the coverletter...sorry for the late reply. It was just a simple coverletter stating date sent to the embassy and your bgt number. Just the basic info to get the ball rolling over at the embassy.
Good Luck!
Diana B
ColombianoGringo
Apr 11 2008, 04:36 PM
Thanks Diana,
She wrote something up with date, case # and a list of the included documents. Hopefully we'll get a May interview. I see that yours is already in late May, so maybe we'll get the last week in May which would be perfect. We have a wedding to attend in Pereira the weekend of the 25th.
Good luck with your interview.
CG
parkpapa
Apr 12 2008, 02:21 PM
For applicants with children, the following is copied from another thread that hasn't been used much, but I thought the information might help someone currently in the process. If it's been covered recently, I apologize for the repetition, but I don't get onto Colombia Club as much as I used to.
QUOTE
(Mountain777 @ Mar 4 2008, 07:56 PM)
QUOTE(narocks @ Mar 3 2008, 02:37 PM)
The letter we had done here in the US at the Colombian Embassy was then stamped at an address in Bogota, it was a little over a month old and allowed both boys to leave. No snags at the airport. Yes my suggestion is as recent as possible to avoid what happened to steveandsandy. I know in our case the embassy did not ask about the letter. We did have to send a notorized letter to the NVC showing that the children were permitted to immigrate to the US, this letter was from the mom as I am the USC pettioner and married to the childrens dad.
Hi narocks,
Can you tell me what letter that NVC asked for? Did they ask for the paper signed by the two parents? Because we do not yet have this paper signed by the father. He is giving us a hard time about this. We hope to have it by the time of the interview. He insists that it is only needed at the airport and refuses to sign anything until then. We tried to explain to him that it will be needed by the NVC and the embassy! Can you confirm?
Did you make up the documnet yourselves and what did it have to say besides to remove the child permantly from Colombia? How long was it valid for? Did the embassy ask to see the document? Were you required to give your physical address personal info ect? I ask cause we don't really want the him to know too much. He has been abusive towards my wife in the past and we are just trying to get him to sign this and want nothing more to do with him.
PS- Did the embassy ask the child any questions?
I don't mean to butt in here, but we went through the same thing with needing a letter from the father. The embassy and NVC are unlikely to ask about or even care about such a letter. The only ones that will care are DAS at the Bogota airport. Permission is required from both parents for a child to leave Colombia, unless there is proof that one parent has given up legal rights to the child or is deceased. The letters, no matter how they are written, are good for one departure only. So, the next time the child visits Colombia, he/she will need another permission letter from the father to leave for the United States again.
As for the letter, our letter states basically the following (all in Spanish, of course):
I, (father's name), of legal age, with citizenship number XXXX issued in (city, state, country), by this document give permission for my minor child(ren) (child's name) identified by civil registry number XXXX and passport number XXXX to leave the country and enter the United States in the company of his/her mother (mother's name), identified by citzenship number XXXX issued in (city, state, country). This trip is anticipated in or before (month and year) and this permission and authorization is in effect from now until the date of travel.
Signature and Notary stamp
The only other option, with the father still living and wanting rights over the child(ren), is for the mother to seek sole custody through Colombian courts. This will require not only proof of abandonement or abuse, but will also take several months to obtain. I'm guessing this is not an option you want to pursue.
Sorry I didn't see this thread sooner, and I hope you already have the answer you needed.
Charles
NArocks
Apr 14 2008, 10:50 AM
Just to clarify, The NVC did ask for a document from the mother stating that the children are allowed to immigrate to the US. We received an RFE for this document at the NVC. We got a letter notorized here in the states and sent it post haste bback to the NVC. And Yes the most important hurdle is DAS at the airport, they kids and their dad breeezed through witht he letter they had.
Also do not forget if for whatever reason the kids return you need the letter all over again to leave the country. This is each and every time
QUOTE(parkpapa @ Apr 12 2008, 03:21 PM)

For applicants with children, the following is copied from another thread that hasn't been used much, but I thought the information might help someone currently in the process. If it's been covered recently, I apologize for the repetition, but I don't get onto Colombia Club as much as I used to.
QUOTE
(Mountain777 @ Mar 4 2008, 07:56 PM)
QUOTE(narocks @ Mar 3 2008, 02:37 PM)
The letter we had done here in the US at the Colombian Embassy was then stamped at an address in Bogota, it was a little over a month old and allowed both boys to leave. No snags at the airport. Yes my suggestion is as recent as possible to avoid what happened to steveandsandy. I know in our case the embassy did not ask about the letter. We did have to send a notorized letter to the NVC showing that the children were permitted to immigrate to the US, this letter was from the mom as I am the USC pettioner and married to the childrens dad.
Hi narocks,
Can you tell me what letter that NVC asked for? Did they ask for the paper signed by the two parents? Because we do not yet have this paper signed by the father. He is giving us a hard time about this. We hope to have it by the time of the interview. He insists that it is only needed at the airport and refuses to sign anything until then. We tried to explain to him that it will be needed by the NVC and the embassy! Can you confirm?
Did you make up the documnet yourselves and what did it have to say besides to remove the child permantly from Colombia? How long was it valid for? Did the embassy ask to see the document? Were you required to give your physical address personal info ect? I ask cause we don't really want the him to know too much. He has been abusive towards my wife in the past and we are just trying to get him to sign this and want nothing more to do with him.
PS- Did the embassy ask the child any questions?
I don't mean to butt in here, but we went through the same thing with needing a letter from the father. The embassy and NVC are unlikely to ask about or even care about such a letter. The only ones that will care are DAS at the Bogota airport. Permission is required from both parents for a child to leave Colombia, unless there is proof that one parent has given up legal rights to the child or is deceased. The letters, no matter how they are written, are good for one departure only. So, the next time the child visits Colombia, he/she will need another permission letter from the father to leave for the United States again.
As for the letter, our letter states basically the following (all in Spanish, of course):
I, (father's name), of legal age, with citizenship number XXXX issued in (city, state, country), by this document give permission for my minor child(ren) (child's name) identified by civil registry number XXXX and passport number XXXX to leave the country and enter the United States in the company of his/her mother (mother's name), identified by citzenship number XXXX issued in (city, state, country). This trip is anticipated in or before (month and year) and this permission and authorization is in effect from now until the date of travel.
Signature and Notary stamp
The only other option, with the father still living and wanting rights over the child(ren), is for the mother to seek sole custody through Colombian courts. This will require not only proof of abandonement or abuse, but will also take several months to obtain. I'm guessing this is not an option you want to pursue.
Sorry I didn't see this thread sooner, and I hope you already have the answer you needed.
Charles
ColombianoGringo
Apr 14 2008, 12:41 PM
Hi all,
I am filling out the I-134 Affidavit of Support for my wife's upcoming K-3 interview and I have a few questions.
I make monthly child support payments for my two kids. I listed them under item #8 The following persons are dependent upon me for support:". Put them each as "Partially Dependent". Is this correct?
Also, I was curious about item #11 "I intend, do not intend, to make specific contributions to the support of the person(s) named in item 3". In the example I-134 on VisaJourney, it has "N/A (K1 visa process for permament residency)" as the answer and has neither option selected. What should I put there for a K-3?
Under item #3 where it asks for "Name of spouse and children accompanying or following to join person:", for spouse i put "N/A - Sponsor is spouse" and for children I put "None". Is this correct?
It is my understanding that since my income is many times the minimum requirements, I do not have to provide any information or evidence regarding bank accounts, stocks, etc. I could provide them, but would rather not hassle with it. Is this correct?
Thanks for all your help.
CG
ColombianoGringo
Apr 14 2008, 12:58 PM
One more thing on the I-134...
For Item #11 "I have submitted a visa petition(s) to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on behalf of the following person(s).", I put my wife and in parenthesis wrote (I-129F for K3 visa). Is this correct?
Thanks again,
CG
waitman
Apr 15 2008, 11:30 PM
Hello, all!
We got packet 3 yesterday and are somewhat confused.
1. We are supposed to mail only DS-230 (first part) and OF-169, correct?
2. OF-169 supposedly should be signed only when we have all the documents. However, the DAS certificate requires a trip to Bogota and several days of waiting. Should my fiancee first get that document and only afterwards sign and send OF-169? To me that sounds like a waste of time and energy, since interview date will probably be like in a month from now. In addition, the instructions say RETURN IMMEDIATELY, which doesn't go well with scheduling a trip or two to Bogota to get the DAS certificate. So our dilemma is: sign and send OF-169 now or go to Bogota and sign the thing only after the DAS certificate is actually in hand?
3. According to one of Bogota Embassy's documents (http://bogota.usembassy.gov/fiance-apply.html , "Package of instructions..."), it is not clear whether DS-230 that my fiancee will send to the embassy should be signed or not. Part I of the instructions says that DS-230 sent to the embassy must be signed. Part II of the instructions says DS-230 Part I should NOT be signed. I assume that in Part II of the instructions they made a typo and they actually meant DS-230 Part II. So do we or do we not sign DS-230 sent in response to Packet 3?
4. Instructions say fax or mail the response to the embassy. Which is better? Should we do both?
Well, that's enough confusion for now....
We appreciate your help. Thank you and best of luck!
ColombianoGringo
Apr 16 2008, 10:38 AM
1. You are supposed to send the OF-169 (signed), the DS-230 Part 1 (unsigned) and a photocopy of the bio page of the beneficiaries passport.
2. I would not wait. As it stands, you probably won't get an interview until June as the today is the cutoff for May interviews. Also, depending on where your spouse is, you should not need to go to Bogota for the DAS documents. Keep in mind that you actually need two documents from DAS, the Carta Migratoria(entries and exits) and the Certificado Judicial(police certificate). In some cities you can get both, but in others, you can only get the Certificado Judicial. Make sure to contact the local DAS office before going to Bogota for the documents. My wife is getting both of hers today at the local DAS office in her city.
3. According to everything I've seen, you do not sign the Part 1 of the DS-230 when sending it in to request an interview.
4. The general advice has been to fax it and then follow it with a hard copy sent through Servientrega.
Hope this helps. We just faxed in our Packet 3 forms on friday. I will be calling the embassy today to see if we have an appointment scheduled yet.
Good luck ,
CG
Also, make sure to put a simple cover letter with the beneficiaries basic info, the case number and a quick note explaining that you are requesting an interview. It seems kind of redundant, but it has been recommended by many around here.
waitman
Apr 16 2008, 11:12 AM
QUOTE(ColombianoGringo @ Apr 16 2008, 10:38 AM)

1. You are supposed to send the OF-169 (signed), the DS-230 Part 1 (unsigned) and a photocopy of the bio page of the beneficiaries passport.
2. I would not wait. As it stands, you probably won't get an interview until June as the today is the cutoff for May interviews. Also, depending on where your spouse is, you should not need to go to Bogota for the DAS documents. Keep in mind that you actually need two documents from DAS, the Carta Migratoria(entries and exits) and the Certificado Judicial(police certificate). In some cities you can get both, but in others, you can only get the Certificado Judicial. Make sure to contact the local DAS office before going to Bogota for the documents. My wife is getting both of hers today at the local DAS office in her city.
3. According to everything I've seen, you do not sign the Part 1 of the DS-230 when sending it in to request an interview.
4. The general advice has been to fax it and then follow it with a hard copy sent through Servientrega.
Hope this helps. We just faxed in our Packet 3 forms on friday. I will be calling the embassy today to see if we have an appointment scheduled yet.
Good luck ,
CG
Also, make sure to put a simple cover letter with the beneficiaries basic info, the case number and a quick note explaining that you are requesting an interview. It seems kind of redundant, but it has been recommended by many around here.
Thank you for the response, ColombianoGringo!
Why cover letter and passport? Instructions say nothing about that at all...Where does that follow from?
As far as sending OF-169 right away, my concern is that when you sign it you certify that you have ALL the documents. If Certificado Migratorio ain't there, you are, well...not telling the truth. So if the date of the signature on OF-169 is earlier than the date on the DAS certificate, we have an inconsistency which isn't good.
Or am I making too much of this? Anyone else with an insight into this?
Buena suerte!
Andres and Diana
Apr 16 2008, 01:03 PM
QUOTE(waitman @ Apr 16 2008, 09:12 AM)

Thank you for the response, ColombianoGringo!
Why cover letter and passport? Instructions say nothing about that at all...Where does that follow from?
As far as sending OF-169 right away, my concern is that when you sign it you certify that you have ALL the documents. If Certificado Migratorio ain't there, you are, well...not telling the truth. So if the date of the signature on OF-169 is earlier than the date on the DAS certificate, we have an inconsistency which isn't good.
Or am I making too much of this? Anyone else with an insight into this?
Buena suerte!
The coverletter and passport are just for quick reference in order to get your appointment faster. instead of having them look up your info using the DS-230 they can just refer to your coverletter and look up your fiancee that way.
Here is a template of a cover letter given to me by Scott..
(date)
U.S. Embassy
Immigrant Visa Section
Bogotá, Colombia
RE: Case Number : BGT XXXX-XXX-XXX
To Whom It May Concern:
The above-referenced case was forwarded by the National Visa Center to the embassy in Bogotá for processing. The K-1 petition was delivered to the embassy on (day), (date) by DHL. As such, I am submitting the following in support of the I-129F for the K-1 petition:
• Copy of the biographical page of my Colombian passport ( (full name of beneficiary), the K-1 beneficiary).
• Completed OF-169
• Completed DS-230, part I
Based on this information and the I-129F petition, please schedule an embassy interview appointment on your earliest available date. We are hopeful that the information has been received in time for a (estimated month) appointment.
If you need further information, please contact (beneficiary’s name) in (name of city in Colombia) at (phone #) or (petitioner’s name) in the U.S. at (phone #). Thank you very much for your consideration.
Sincerely,
_______________________
(beneficiary’s name)
Beneficiary
As for the DAS paperwork...there is no need to worry about it. Andres and I have our interview on the 22 of May and we aren't requesting the paperwork till the 16th of May. It takes about 3-4 days to get the migratorio while the pasado judicial is given the same day.
Kind regards,
Diana B
ColombianoGringo
Apr 16 2008, 01:59 PM
Diana, Could you take a look at my questions about I-134 on the previous page?
For that matter, anyone who can help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
CG
Andres and Diana
Apr 16 2008, 03:44 PM
QUOTE(ColombianoGringo @ Apr 16 2008, 11:59 AM)

Diana, Could you take a look at my questions about I-134 on the previous page?
For that matter, anyone who can help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
CG
Hi CG,
Im not 100% sure with your questions for the affidavit. I have mine all filled out but its at home. Once I get home from work I'll let you know what mine says. Mine was actually filled out by my lawyers so Im hoping that it looks the same. Now...my app is a k-1 so it may be a little different! As for question number 8 on the affidavit....I believe you do put partially dependent if their mother has joint custody or full custody of children. question number 8 is correct as well put n/a on anything that doesn't pertain to your fiancee.
Let me know when your interview is! I'll be in Bogota from the 15th - 26th of May! Will you guys be staying at Bob's Apartments (now under new management)? Let me know!
Diana B
ColombianoGringo
Apr 16 2008, 04:09 PM
Thanks Diana. I spoke with the embassy today and they stated that they've received the Packet 3 forms my wife faxed on Friday and that they would be assigning an interview date shortly. I hope we get our in that last part of May.
I am not sure where we will be staying. We have a lot of relatives in Bogota, but we never stay with them. Normally, we stay at a hotel on Calle 100, but that is too far this time. How much are the apartments where you're staying? Are they nice?
Peace,
CG
Andres and Diana
Apr 16 2008, 04:39 PM
Well they come Highly recommended from a lot of VJers that have stayed at their place.
They are located on Calle 23 in Barrio Modelia. From the apartments that you see on the website it looks pretty nice. Not to mention they are pretty inexpenseive for what they offer. I haven't been there but I'll let you know once I'm there what its like.
Diana B
ColombianoGringo
Apr 16 2008, 05:12 PM
Well. My wife came back from the local DAS office and it turns out that you can request the "Carta Migratoria" anywhere, but it has to be picked up in Bogota. They had originally told her she could get it at the local office in her city. I am going to see if one of my relatives in Bogota can pick it up for us. Does anyone know she needs to pick it up herself? What a pain!
The local DAS office is getting her the "Certificado Judicial". Is the "Certificado Judicial" from DAS the only "police" document she needs or does she also need to get local police certificates from the cities in which she has lived? I am pretty sure she only needs the DAS certificate, but she is unsure and requested that I ask.
Thanks for all your help.
CG
Andres and Diana
Apr 16 2008, 08:17 PM
CG,
Ok...so I came home to look at the paperwork!
For question 3 I have none and none under spouse and child.
For question 8 they put down my mom who lives with me as being partially dependent since she is over 65 and doesn't need much from me just a little cash once in a while.
For question 11 though...here is the interesting thing! My lawyers wrote down I intend blah blah blah . It then states under that portion in bold letters I intend to provide full support throughout the duration of the marriage.
Now, me being the Curious George that I am, I call my lawyer and speak to them and ask why I would write it down as so. They state that the reason they put down I intend etc. is because the Consular wants to make sure that I will cover for anything that my hubbie cant come up with. In other words to make sure that he doesn't become a burden to our society and a public charge. Makes sense...I guess...
If you have any other questions let me know!
Diana B
margara&john
Apr 16 2008, 08:35 PM
QUOTE(ColombianoGringo @ Apr 16 2008, 05:12 PM)

Well. My wife came back from the local DAS office and it turns out that you can request the "Carta Migratoria" anywhere, but it has to be picked up in Bogota. They had originally told her she could get it at the local office in her city. I am going to see if one of my relatives in Bogota can pick it up for us. Does anyone know she needs to pick it up herself? What a pain!
The local DAS office is getting her the "Certificado Judicial". Is the "Certificado Judicial" from DAS the only "police" document she needs or does she also need to get local police certificates from the cities in which she has lived? I am pretty sure she only needs the DAS certificate, but she is unsure and requested that I ask.
Thanks for all your help.
CG
Hi everyone,
Sorry it took me so long to post my embassy experience. I arrived in Bogota Tuesday night at 7:30, and Margarita and Daniela were waiting for me (they arrived at 7:30 also). We took a 10 minute taxi ride to our apartment (apartmentinbogota.com). The apartment and Don Alberto were great. 3 berdooms, 2 bath, kitchen, and nice diningroom. 24 hour a day doorman. It was super close to the embassy and the banco de credito is right across the street at a mall that has a couple of restaurants. I highly recomend the apartment. Wednesday morning we went to the lab and Dra Gonzalez. The lab was pretty quick. We got there at 7:00 and Margarita was 5th in line. Daniela and I had to wait outside, but Margarita was out of the lab by 7:35. We went to Dra Gonzalez office and had to wait 45 minutes because she was running late. The 45 minutes was no big deal when we found out that they didn't need more vaccinations. They got their's like 6 weeks ago, but the Dra said it was fine. We then went to the Banco de Credito to pay for the visas. Thursday we went to Salitre Majico. It's a theme park and it was pretty fun. Friday morning we got to the embassy at 6:40. Line 4 was super long, but in line 3 there were only like 20 people ahead of us. Young women walked through the line and asked to see our papers. they then pt green stickers on us. Just after 7 we were called to the front of the line and let into the embassy. We were then sent to get a folder. The folder has a list of the documents and the order that they need to be in. We wiated another 20 minutes until Margarita was called to a diferent window. She turned in the folder and we were sent to another area. 25minutes later Margarita was called to another window where they took her fingerprints. Maybe 45 mintues later Margarita was called to another window. She was asked for our proof of relationship and the interviewer verified that everything from the folder was correct. The interviewer then called me to the wndow and asked me just a few questions. When and how did you meet? How many times have you visited and what did you do on the visits? Did you meet her family? When will you get married? Who are the people in this picture? (it was a pic of me with Margarita's family) Then the interviewer sent me away and asked Margarita the same questions. The interviewer called me back up to the window (Ithis time with Margarita) and told us that our visa has been approved. We went to the Domesa area and paid the delivery fee, and were out of the embassy by 10:30. The whole experience was pretty easy. They actually do a good job of making it go smoothly. I was super nervous, but everything worked out well. The only thing that struck me as odd was that nobody ever asked me for my passport or any other type of ID. I just thought that was strange. I'm so relieved that we have the visas for Margarita and Daniela, but the wait isn't over. Because of my strenuous work schedule, they aren't coming until October. I work 7 days a week from May through September. We think it will be better for all of us if they come when I have more free time. At least I have plenty of time to prepare the house and buy them clothes. They live in Medellin and found Bogota to be very cold. I loved the weather in Bogota. I never wore a sweter or jacket. Next winter in Wiisconsin is going to be rough on them. Maybe it was 45 or 50 in Bogota, but it gets below zero (not counting the windchill) here. Thanks so much to everyone for your help. I can't imagine how things would have gone if I hadn't found Visajourney.
john
CamyCar
Apr 16 2008, 09:32 PM
QUOTE(margara&john @ Apr 16 2008, 06:35 PM)

QUOTE(ColombianoGringo @ Apr 16 2008, 05:12 PM)

Well. My wife came back from the local DAS office and it turns out that you can request the "Carta Migratoria" anywhere, but it has to be picked up in Bogota. They had originally told her she could get it at the local office in her city. I am going to see if one of my relatives in Bogota can pick it up for us. Does anyone know she needs to pick it up herself? What a pain!
The local DAS office is getting her the "Certificado Judicial". Is the "Certificado Judicial" from DAS the only "police" document she needs or does she also need to get local police certificates from the cities in which she has lived? I am pretty sure she only needs the DAS certificate, but she is unsure and requested that I ask.
Thanks for all your help.
CG
John,
Congratulations! I know how you are feeling and it is all surreal now. I am glad that I was able to bring Carina home with me immediately, but, I must admit, the cleaning has not stopped!! In retrospect, it would have been nice to have more time to prepare for her arrival. I am very happy for you and wish you the best.
Cameron and Carina
Hi everyone,
Sorry it took me so long to post my embassy experience. I arrived in Bogota Tuesday night at 7:30, and Margarita and Daniela were waiting for me (they arrived at 7:30 also). We took a 10 minute taxi ride to our apartment (apartmentinbogota.com). The apartment and Don Alberto were great. 3 berdooms, 2 bath, kitchen, and nice diningroom. 24 hour a day doorman. It was super close to the embassy and the banco de credito is right across the street at a mall that has a couple of restaurants. I highly recomend the apartment. Wednesday morning we went to the lab and Dra Gonzalez. The lab was pretty quick. We got there at 7:00 and Margarita was 5th in line. Daniela and I had to wait outside, but Margarita was out of the lab by 7:35. We went to Dra Gonzalez office and had to wait 45 minutes because she was running late. The 45 minutes was no big deal when we found out that they didn't need more vaccinations. They got their's like 6 weeks ago, but the Dra said it was fine. We then went to the Banco de Credito to pay for the visas. Thursday we went to Salitre Majico. It's a theme park and it was pretty fun. Friday morning we got to the embassy at 6:40. Line 4 was super long, but in line 3 there were only like 20 people ahead of us. Young women walked through the line and asked to see our papers. they then pt green stickers on us. Just after 7 we were called to the front of the line and let into the embassy. We were then sent to get a folder. The folder has a list of the documents and the order that they need to be in. We wiated another 20 minutes until Margarita was called to a diferent window. She turned in the folder and we were sent to another area. 25minutes later Margarita was called to another window where they took her fingerprints. Maybe 45 mintues later Margarita was called to another window. She was asked for our proof of relationship and the interviewer verified that everything from the folder was correct. The interviewer then called me to the wndow and asked me just a few questions. When and how did you meet? How many times have you visited and what did you do on the visits? Did you meet her family? When will you get married? Who are the people in this picture? (it was a pic of me with Margarita's family) Then the interviewer sent me away and asked Margarita the same questions. The interviewer called me back up to the window (Ithis time with Margarita) and told us that our visa has been approved. We went to the Domesa area and paid the delivery fee, and were out of the embassy by 10:30. The whole experience was pretty easy. They actually do a good job of making it go smoothly. I was super nervous, but everything worked out well. The only thing that struck me as odd was that nobody ever asked me for my passport or any other type of ID. I just thought that was strange. I'm so relieved that we have the visas for Margarita and Daniela, but the wait isn't over. Because of my strenuous work schedule, they aren't coming until October. I work 7 days a week from May through September. We think it will be better for all of us if they come when I have more free time. At least I have plenty of time to prepare the house and buy them clothes. They live in Medellin and found Bogota to be very cold. I loved the weather in Bogota. I never wore a sweter or jacket. Next winter in Wiisconsin is going to be rough on them. Maybe it was 45 or 50 in Bogota, but it gets below zero (not counting the windchill) here. Thanks so much to everyone for your help. I can't imagine how things would have gone if I hadn't found Visajourney.
john
Mononoke28
Apr 17 2008, 11:41 AM
We also stayed at apartmentinbogota.com and liked not only the place but the fact that it's at a 5 minute walk from the embassy. Don Alberto is really nice and the neighborhood as well.
Diana
ColombianoGringo
Apr 17 2008, 11:58 AM
We actually have a relative that lives in that neighborhood and has invited us to stay with her, but I am not big on being a house guest. I'll take a look at those apartments.
On a positive note, I worked out the problem with the "Carta Migratoria". I had forgotten that we have a relative who is very high up in DAS. They are going to have someone intercept it and have it couriered to my wife. She already requested it and paid for it in her city. Unfortunately, we had to resort to a little "palanca" to get it done. I think it is ridiculous that they expect people to go to Bogota to pick it up. Why is it that they can give you a national police report at any DAS office but expect you to bear the expense of traveling to Bogota to pick up the migratory document?
Also, anyone who has recently gone through a K-3 interview, please take a look at my questions about the I-134. Diana B answered some of my questions, but she is on a K-1 and the spouse item would be different.
Thanks to everyone for your help and advice.
CG
Mononoke28
Apr 17 2008, 02:50 PM
Well, people who don't live in Bogotá have the choice of picking the Carta Migratoria at the DAS in Bogotá but they also have the choice of receiving it in their local city but that can take up to 5 weeks.
Diana
Mononoke28
Apr 17 2008, 03:00 PM
I've been in touch with the people in the National Visa Center forum and they have informed us that the fees and the coversheets needed to mail in the paperwork for CR1/IR1 visas, can be paid and downloaded on the DOS web site. This will save the process weeks and move things faster.
Since there are so many people who come to VJ for information without having to log in, I just wanted to say that if you're undecided on which visa to apply for, whether a K3 or CR1, that because of this new process CR1/IR1 visas will most likely take just as long, if not less time, than K3 visas. This is compared to the 1-2 month difference they currently have.
I can only speak for the US Embassy in Bogotá of course since getting an appointment with them is much faster than embassies in other countries.
Diana
ColombianoGringo
Apr 18 2008, 09:40 AM
So what should the turnaround at NVC be using the online payment? They processed and forwared our K-3 around in 2 days. Still, if the difference was only an additional week or two, it would be worth the wait.
Mononoke28
Apr 18 2008, 10:52 AM
QUOTE(ColombianoGringo @ Apr 18 2008, 08:40 AM)

So what should the turnaround at NVC be using the online payment? They processed and forwared our K-3 around in 2 days. Still, if the difference was only an additional week or two, it would be worth the wait.
Yes but K3 visa petitioners still have to wait for the embassy to receive the case, then send packet 3, and then wait for the embassy to give them an interview which can take 1+ months after the NVC sends it to them.
With the new system at the NVC, the whole process should take just as long and when they send the case to Bogotá, they will already have a date for the interview.
Diana
Susan&Diego
Apr 20 2008, 03:59 AM
Question...
How do I add new posts directly into Colombia Club and not have it appear in the general "The Foreign Embassy and Consulate General Discussion" board?
Thanks
Susan
Susan&Diego
Apr 20 2008, 04:01 AM
QUOTE(Susan&Diego @ Apr 20 2008, 03:59 AM)

Question...
How do I add new posts directly into Colombia Club and not have it appear in the general "The Foreign Embassy and Consulate General Discussion" board?
Thanks
Susan
Opps... just the way I did. JAJAJA Ok. So here's what I really wanted to post.
Hey everyone!
Let us start by introducing ourselves... We're Diego and Susan and after having dated 7 years ago, when I moved to Colombia to attend college and my later moving back to the US, we found each other again and are now embarking on our own K1 odyssey. It seems so very long and a lot of work, but at the end it's soooo worth it! Any advice or words of support are, of course, very welcome.
It's fantastic to find so many others who, like us, can relate to all that comes with filing a K1, K3, etc. So, yeah, We have a question that I hope someone here can answer or suggest a solution.
I have my divorce documents from a previous marriage, but they're in Spanish. How should I include these in the initial package to USCIS: Spanish original, just notarized translation, or both?
Thanks to all,
Susan
Mononoke28
Apr 21 2008, 11:27 AM
Hello Susan and welcome,
You only need copies of any document you send the USCIS. Anything that is not in English needs to be translated but the translation doesn't have to be notarized nor does it need to be original.
Diana
lucho562
Apr 21 2008, 12:06 PM
Welcome Susan and Diego. You will find lots of useful information in this thread.
ColombianoGringo
Apr 21 2008, 12:33 PM
FYI,
The embassy just published the list of May interviews. You can see them here
http://bogota.usembassy.gov/iv-appointments.htmlUnfortunately, we did not get a May interview. The embassy confirmed that they received our packet 3 forms on 4/14, but we have not been assigned an interview date yet. This really blows.
To make matters worse, my wife was robbed at knife point yesterday a block from her home. A few months ago, her best friend was robbed on the same street. I really just want to get her the hell away from there. I wish she could go stay with my relatives in Bogota or Medellin, but she has to stay in her city to finish some exit exams for her law degree. I feel really helpless right now and I wish this whole visa ordeal was over.
cesar
Apr 21 2008, 01:47 PM
Hey JC, sorry to hear that; I know how you feel. My girlfriend was at an internet cafe 2 weeks ago in Cali when 2 guys with guns robbed the place. Thankfully, the robbery was botched and they only got away with some cash, a cell phone, and an ipod.
Hopefully your girl will be states-side soon and not have to worry about the insecure situation we still have in Colombia. Don't get me wrong, it's a great place full of culture, great food, and gorgeous women, but it's still eons from being a safe place to live in.
Changing the subject, I'd like to share a link I posted on the "Colombianos en Visa K1" topic. It concerns the temporary permit to work in the U.S. for K1 holders.
Diana had some interesting points (perhaps it's not worth it to work while the K1 is good since it's so little time) but either way, the link cleared some doubts I had. Basically it says that the I-94 that's given to the K1 holder at the POE by default acts as proof that the beneficiary can work while the K1 is valid.
The link is here:
http://www.kamya.com/ssn/em00154.pdf
ColombianoGringo
Apr 22 2008, 03:42 PM
Cesar, When I said "get her away from there", I meant the declining neighborhood in which she lives. I am Colombian and the areas where my family lives are very nice and relatively safe. She lives in a small city in Southern Colombia and her family's neighborhood was a decent area but has gone downhill in the last several years. I would be happy to have her go stay at her parents' finca or with my relatives. Unfortunately, she is finishing a few things for her degree so she has to stay in town for a while.
As far as your K-1 question, you might have better luck on the K-1 forum as Club Colombia has been kind of slow lately.
Good luck,
CG
buck501
Apr 24 2008, 04:09 PM
Paola's son, Elvin is here in the US now, the POE, Houston, was a cake walk for him. Paola did have a small problem. We were given 2 copies of her AP, she only took one to Colombia. They wanted both copies. After some talk between them, searching on the computer, they decided to let her return. WHEWWWWWWWWWWWWW. Her GC interview is the 30th. Hoping all ges well there too.
Andres and Diana
Apr 24 2008, 04:49 PM
QUOTE(buck501 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:09 PM)

Paola's son, Elvin is here in the US now, the POE, Houston, was a cake walk for him. Paola did have a small problem. We were given 2 copies of her AP, she only took one to Colombia. They wanted both copies. After some talk between them, searching on the computer, they decided to let her return. WHEWWWWWWWWWWWWW. Her GC interview is the 30th. Hoping all ges well there too.
Yay!! Congrats Buck! Now your all one big happy family! Good Luck on the Green Card interview! Everything will be great!
Kind Regards,
Diana B
parkpapa
Apr 24 2008, 10:29 PM
QUOTE(buck501 @ Apr 24 2008, 04:09 PM)

Paola's son, Elvin is here in the US now, the POE, Houston, was a cake walk for him. Paola did have a small problem. We were given 2 copies of her AP, she only took one to Colombia. They wanted both copies. After some talk between them, searching on the computer, they decided to let her return. WHEWWWWWWWWWWWWW. Her GC interview is the 30th. Hoping all ges well there too.
Congratulations Buck and Paola!!!! Lorena is getting ready to visit Colombia also. Here's hoping everything goes smoothly. Immigration here said she doesn't need an advance parole because she's a K-3. :-)
Charles
M&J
Apr 26 2008, 11:51 PM
Hello Colombia Club! We received on the mail a notice of action saying our case has been transferred to California Service center, I'm not sure if this is good news, i have read somewhere that it means we dont have to go to an interview, but I'm not sure. Anybody?? should I worry?? Thanks!
Marcela
M&J
Apr 27 2008, 09:20 PM
Congratulations Santamartachicago!!!
Andres and Diana
Apr 27 2008, 11:00 PM

YAY ERIC!!!!!! Congratulations!!! Im sooo excited for you!! I hope you are felling a lot better and that you will be with your girlie soon!!
Congrats again!!
Diana B
faith11
Apr 28 2008, 12:36 AM
margara&john
Apr 28 2008, 07:37 AM
QUOTE(faith11 @ Apr 28 2008, 12:36 AM)

congratulations Eric!!! Hope you get good news from the doctor
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