SteveSandyHill
Dec 26 2007, 08:31 AM
Byron & Leidy and MV & JR may your New Years Eve celebrations start early in the day with your APPROVALS!
I hope this question isn't to crazy! Yet I read on the Bogota interview page here is Visa Journey, below:
These documents and items are needed for the interview:
*Appointment letter
*DS-156 Non Immigrant Visa Application.(2 copies for the beneficiary and 2 copies for each accompanying child.)
Will Sandy need to have 2 DS-156 forms completed at the bank?
Thank you for all your help! Steve & Sandy.
Scott n Yenifer
Dec 26 2007, 09:48 AM
QUOTE(SteveSandyHill @ Dec 26 2007, 08:31 AM)

Byron & Leidy and MV & JR may your New Years Eve celebrations start early in the day with your APPROVALS!
I hope this question isn't to crazy! Yet I read on the Bogota interview page here is Visa Journey, below:
These documents and items are needed for the interview:
*Appointment letter
*DS-156 Non Immigrant Visa Application.(2 copies for the beneficiary and 2 copies for each accompanying child.)
Will Sandy need to have 2 DS-156 forms completed at the bank?
Thank you for all your help! Steve & Sandy.
Steve,
She will need 1 each of the DS-156 for the bank...1 for her and 1 for the baby. Those will accompany her to the embassy along with 1 additional copy each of the DS-156 for a total of 2 each and only 1 each of the DS-156K.
BYRON-LEIDY
Dec 26 2007, 09:59 AM
Scott I just got my 134 notarized....Was it necessary to do so??????
SteveSandyHill
Dec 26 2007, 10:03 AM
QUOTE(Scott n Yenifer @ Dec 26 2007, 09:48 AM)

QUOTE(SteveSandyHill @ Dec 26 2007, 08:31 AM)

Byron & Leidy and MV & JR may your New Years Eve celebrations start early in the day with your APPROVALS!
I hope this question isn't to crazy! Yet I read on the Bogota interview page here is Visa Journey, below:
These documents and items are needed for the interview:
*Appointment letter
*DS-156 Non Immigrant Visa Application.(2 copies for the beneficiary and 2 copies for each accompanying child.)
Will Sandy need to have 2 DS-156 forms completed at the bank?
Thank you for all your help! Steve & Sandy.
Steve,
She will need 1 each of the DS-156 for the bank...1 for her and 1 for the baby. Those will accompany her to the embassy along with 1 additional copy each of the DS-156 for a total of 2 each and only 1 each of the DS-156K.
Scott , Thanks AGAIN buddy.
Scott n Yenifer
Dec 26 2007, 12:36 PM
QUOTE(BYRON-LEIDY @ Dec 26 2007, 09:59 AM)

Scott I just got my 134 notarized....Was it necessary to do so??????
Byron,
Yes the Afidavit of Support is to be notorized here before you leave...you're on track to success Bro!!!!
maviwaro
Dec 26 2007, 05:16 PM
QUOTE(Scott n Yenifer @ Dec 25 2007, 09:01 PM)

QUOTE(maviwaro @ Dec 25 2007, 11:54 AM)

Remember to tell Leidy to ask for the POE EAD Stamp at Passport Control!!
maviwaro,
Do they actually stamp your passport with a special stamp?
If you don't ask for this stamp do they give it to you anyway?
If it wasn't done can we go back and have it done?
Thanks
According to mi Tio at MIA, its not available at MIA or any other airport other than JFK. And apparently, its something that the Passport Control agents have in their drawers at JFK if what I am told is correct. So if your POE is JFK, you don't lose anything in asking.
Suerte!
Matt y Fernanda
Dec 26 2007, 07:43 PM
This question arose during a conversation between my wife and I, and I was just wondering if anyone had an answer. If my wife and I have a child in the United States, can we apply for Colombian citizenship for the child, so that the child can have both U.S. and Colombian citizenship? Or would the child have to be born in Colombia in order to do that?
Matt y Fernanda
Dec 26 2007, 07:46 PM
Just a quick note, when paying for your visa interview at the Banco de Credito the DS-156 must be on 1 page front and back. Fernanda took the one I sent her printed on 2 pages, and they made her fill out a new one on 1 page.
maviwaro
Dec 26 2007, 08:05 PM
QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 26 2007, 06:43 PM)

This question arose during a conversation between my wife and I, and I was just wondering if anyone had an answer. If my wife and I have a child in the United States, can we apply for Colombian citizenship for the child, so that the child can have both U.S. and Colombian citizenship? Or would the child have to be born in Colombia in order to do that?
Sure... and if its a boy you can count on the young man being expected to do military service in Colombia... 18 months of it unless he got out of it.
snoopy
Dec 26 2007, 08:18 PM
QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 26 2007, 04:43 PM)

This question arose during a conversation between my wife and I, and I was just wondering if anyone had an answer. If my wife and I have a child in the United States, can we apply for Colombian citizenship for the child, so that the child can have both U.S. and Colombian citizenship? Or would the child have to be born in Colombia in order to do that?
Hi Matt
Your kid will be able to have dual citizenship, because of your wife, if you want to do it here in the US you call the closest Colombian Embassy and find out what you need to bring, It won't be necessary (my opinion) unless you're planning in having the baby or later in life "the kid" to spend more than 3 months in Colombia.
I was born in Colombia and had my daughter here in the US, I went back to Colombia after my divorce and lived there for 8 yrs, I didn't know at the time I needed her to have a Colombian passport to travel out of Colombia, she was then "Illegal", I had to go and take a passport for her, but I went through a lot during the yrs. she was flying back and fort, make your life simple and save money.
Once again, it's just my opinion, because what I went through, I’ll not do it again unless it’s necessary.
Ana
Brian and Yenys
Dec 26 2007, 08:20 PM
QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 26 2007, 07:43 PM)

This question arose during a conversation between my wife and I, and I was just wondering if anyone had an answer. If my wife and I have a child in the United States, can we apply for Colombian citizenship for the child, so that the child can have both U.S. and Colombian citizenship? Or would the child have to be born in Colombia in order to do that?
Dont Worry you can apply for the Colombian Citizenship for the Child, According with the Politic Constitution of Colombia in the ART. 96 .. Should be not problem for that.

Brian and Yenys
Bill y Bella
Dec 26 2007, 11:56 PM
Hi folks. I am in Bogota and just stopped in to VJCC to catch up.
First of all, a belated Happy Holidays to everyone!
Next, good luck to Byron & Leidy and MV & JR! With all the information available here in the Colombia Club I know you must be better prepared than 99% of other couples so try to relax.
Our petition arrived at the embassy today (14 days after the NOA2) and we will be faxing in our package 3 response tomorrow.
Has anyone who has been through the interview had to deal with a less than ideal situation in regards to a common language? Bella speaks very little English and my Spanish is adequate for us to communicate because she goes slowly and is patient with me while I try to figure out what she is saying. On the other hand, if someone hits me with some rapid fire Spanish I can get lost very quickly.
This is the one area that worries me. I think we are very strong on everything else. I keeping seeing a scenario in my head where I get called into the interview and the CO makes no effort to help me understand the questions and my Spanish is judged to be inadequate. My biggest fear is that we are denied on the basis of a lack of a common language.
And finally, Bella already has her Certificado Judicial and it is dated June 21, 2007. Will this be acceptable for a February interview? I think I read several times that it is good for one year, but I can´t find confirmation that the embassy will accept one that old.
Thanks!
Brian and Yenys
Dec 27 2007, 02:05 AM
QUOTE(Bill y Bella @ Dec 26 2007, 11:56 PM)

Hi folks. I am in Bogota and just stopped in to VJCC to catch up.
First of all, a belated Happy Holidays to everyone!
Next, good luck to Byron & Leidy and MV & JR! With all the information available here in the Colombia Club I know you must be better prepared than 99% of other couples so try to relax.
Our petition arrived at the embassy today (14 days after the NOA2) and we will be faxing in our package 3 response tomorrow.
Has anyone who has been through the interview had to deal with a less than ideal situation in regards to a common language? Bella speaks very little English and my Spanish is adequate for us to communicate because she goes slowly and is patient with me while I try to figure out what she is saying. On the other hand, if someone hits me with some rapid fire Spanish I can get lost very quickly.
This is the one area that worries me. I think we are very strong on everything else. I keeping seeing a scenario in my head where I get called into the interview and the CO makes no effort to help me understand the questions and my Spanish is judged to be inadequate. My biggest fear is that we are denied on the basis of a lack of a common language.
And finally, Bella already has her Certificado Judicial and it is dated June 21, 2007. Will this be acceptable for a February interview? I think I read several times that it is good for one year, but I can´t find confirmation that the embassy will accept one that old.
Thanks!
Hi Bill, Congrats, Your Process is speeding up Now... It's very awesome!... Bella's Certicado Judicial Should be not problem, I had Mine Dated Old Too, We did not have any problem with that. If You send the Package 3 Tomorrow You may get a January Interview.
Happy New Year.
God Bless You,

Brian and Yenys
Matt y Fernanda
Dec 27 2007, 02:15 AM
QUOTE(snoopy @ Dec 26 2007, 08:18 PM)

QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 26 2007, 04:43 PM)

This question arose during a conversation between my wife and I, and I was just wondering if anyone had an answer. If my wife and I have a child in the United States, can we apply for Colombian citizenship for the child, so that the child can have both U.S. and Colombian citizenship? Or would the child have to be born in Colombia in order to do that?
Hi Matt
Your kid will be able to have dual citizenship, because of your wife, if you want to do it here in the US you call the closest Colombian Embassy and find out what you need to bring, It won't be necessary (my opinion) unless you're planning in having the baby or later in life "the kid" to spend more than 3 months in Colombia.
I was born in Colombia and had my daughter here in the US, I went back to Colombia after my divorce and lived there for 8 yrs, I didn't know at the time I needed her to have a Colombian passport to travel out of Colombia, she was then "Illegal", I had to go and take a passport for her, but I went through a lot during the yrs. she was flying back and fort, make your life simple and save money.
Once again, it's just my opinion, because what I went through, I’ll not do it again unless it’s necessary.
Ana
First I want to thank everyone for their help.
Ana,
It is basically just my wife that wants the kids to have the dual citizenship. I have no objections to it, but I really do not see the need for it. She thinks it will make travel easier, but after reviewing the Dept of State site it said individuals holding dual citizenship in both the U.S. and Colombia need a Colombian passport to enter/exit Colombia and a U.S. passport to enter/exit the U.S.. Is this the trouble you ran into? So you would only recommend the dual citizenship if the children planned on spending more than 3 months in Colombia? I just want to do what is best, and I guess if them having dual citizenship makes her happy that is the right thing to do.
SteveSandyHill
Dec 27 2007, 06:41 AM
QUOTE(Bill y Bella @ Dec 26 2007, 11:56 PM)

Hi folks. I am in Bogota and just stopped in to VJCC to catch up.
First of all, a belated Happy Holidays to everyone!
Next, good luck to Byron & Leidy and MV & JR! With all the information available here in the Colombia Club I know you must be better prepared than 99% of other couples so try to relax.
Our petition arrived at the embassy today (14 days after the NOA2) and we will be faxing in our package 3 response tomorrow.
Has anyone who has been through the interview had to deal with a less than ideal situation in regards to a common language? Bella speaks very little English and my Spanish is adequate for us to communicate because she goes slowly and is patient with me while I try to figure out what she is saying. On the other hand, if someone hits me with some rapid fire Spanish I can get lost very quickly.
This is the one area that worries me. I think we are very strong on everything else. I keeping seeing a scenario in my head where I get called into the interview and the CO makes no effort to help me understand the questions and my Spanish is judged to be inadequate. My biggest fear is that we are denied on the basis of a lack of a common language.
And finally, Bella already has her Certificado Judicial and it is dated June 21, 2007. Will this be acceptable for a February interview? I think I read several times that it is good for one year, but I can´t find confirmation that the embassy will accept one that old.
Thanks!
Hello Bill,
Sandy and I share the language problem as well. In my opinion our case is also very solid (thanks in part to this forum)!
Yet I also have in the back of my head, being called upon to answer some questions in Spanish or her in English. We are learning eachothers languages and using translation software along the way! I have in fact created a tabbed section in our "additional evidence of a solid relationship" folder, with a copied link to the software website as well as some sample translations! But yes it would be nice to know how others have handled this, if in fact it has been an issue or not!
Steve & Sandy
maviwaro
Dec 27 2007, 11:24 AM
QUOTE(Bill y Bella @ Dec 26 2007, 10:56 PM)

Hi folks. I am in Bogota and just stopped in to VJCC to catch up.
First of all, a belated Happy Holidays to everyone!
Next, good luck to Byron & Leidy and MV & JR! With all the information available here in the Colombia Club I know you must be better prepared than 99% of other couples so try to relax.
Our petition arrived at the embassy today (14 days after the NOA2) and we will be faxing in our package 3 response tomorrow.
Has anyone who has been through the interview had to deal with a less than ideal situation in regards to a common language? Bella speaks very little English and my Spanish is adequate for us to communicate because she goes slowly and is patient with me while I try to figure out what she is saying. On the other hand, if someone hits me with some rapid fire Spanish I can get lost very quickly.
This is the one area that worries me. I think we are very strong on everything else. I keeping seeing a scenario in my head where I get called into the interview and the CO makes no effort to help me understand the questions and my Spanish is judged to be inadequate. My biggest fear is that we are denied on the basis of a lack of a common language.
And finally, Bella already has her Certificado Judicial and it is dated June 21, 2007. Will this be acceptable for a February interview? I think I read several times that it is good for one year, but I can´t find confirmation that the embassy will accept one that old.
Thanks!
Hi Bill,
As long as its within 1yr, the Judicial will be OK.
The language issue is important as it is part of the CO repertoire in detecting fraudulent marriages. Make sure you highlight your Spanish skills and how she'll be learning English.
Happy Holidays!
ColombianoGringo
Dec 27 2007, 12:55 PM
I was born in the US and my parents are from Colombia. I have gone to Colombia well over fifty times as a child and was never even registered as a Colombian citizen until a few years ago.
My parents went to the Colombian consulate with me and filled out some paperwork. Later, I applied for my cedula but i have not gotten a Colombian passport. I still enter and exit Colombia with my US passport. There is no detriment to getting dual citizenship. I believe that a male child born in the US could be exempted from military service. You can always buy his "libreta militar" which will definitely keep him out.
QUOTE
First I want to thank everyone for their help.
Ana,
It is basically just my wife that wants the kids to have the dual citizenship. I have no objections to it, but I really do not see the need for it. She thinks it will make travel easier, but after reviewing the Dept of State site it said individuals holding dual citizenship in both the U.S. and Colombia need a Colombian passport to enter/exit Colombia and a U.S. passport to enter/exit the U.S.. Is this the trouble you ran into? So you would only recommend the dual citizenship if the children planned on spending more than 3 months in Colombia? I just want to do what is best, and I guess if them having dual citizenship makes her happy that is the right thing to do.

maviwaro
Dec 27 2007, 01:17 PM
QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 27 2007, 01:15 AM)

QUOTE(snoopy @ Dec 26 2007, 08:18 PM)

QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 26 2007, 04:43 PM)

This question arose during a conversation between my wife and I, and I was just wondering if anyone had an answer. If my wife and I have a child in the United States, can we apply for Colombian citizenship for the child, so that the child can have both U.S. and Colombian citizenship? Or would the child have to be born in Colombia in order to do that?
Hi Matt
Your kid will be able to have dual citizenship, because of your wife, if you want to do it here in the US you call the closest Colombian Embassy and find out what you need to bring, It won't be necessary (my opinion) unless you're planning in having the baby or later in life "the kid" to spend more than 3 months in Colombia.
I was born in Colombia and had my daughter here in the US, I went back to Colombia after my divorce and lived there for 8 yrs, I didn't know at the time I needed her to have a Colombian passport to travel out of Colombia, she was then "Illegal", I had to go and take a passport for her, but I went through a lot during the yrs. she was flying back and fort, make your life simple and save money.
Once again, it's just my opinion, because what I went through, I’ll not do it again unless it’s necessary.
Ana
First I want to thank everyone for their help.
Ana,
It is basically just my wife that wants the kids to have the dual citizenship. I have no objections to it, but I really do not see the need for it. She thinks it will make travel easier, but after reviewing the Dept of State site it said individuals holding dual citizenship in both the U.S. and Colombia need a Colombian passport to enter/exit Colombia and a U.S. passport to enter/exit the U.S.. Is this the trouble you ran into? So you would only recommend the dual citizenship if the children planned on spending more than 3 months in Colombia? I just want to do what is best, and I guess if them having dual citizenship makes her happy that is the right thing to do.

It will be their right to claim Colombian Citizenship... maybe they should be given the option to choose it?
QUOTE(ColombianoGringo @ Dec 27 2007, 11:55 AM)

I was born in the US and my parents are from Colombia. I have gone to Colombia well over fifty times as a child and was never even registered as a Colombian citizen until a few years ago.
My parents went to the Colombian consulate with me and filled out some paperwork. Later, I applied for my cedula but i have not gotten a Colombian passport. I still enter and exit Colombia with my US passport. There is no detriment to getting dual citizenship. I believe that a male child born in the US could be exempted from military service.
You can always buy his "libreta militar" which will definitely keep him out. QUOTE
First I want to thank everyone for their help.
Ana,
It is basically just my wife that wants the kids to have the dual citizenship. I have no objections to it, but I really do not see the need for it. She thinks it will make travel easier, but after reviewing the Dept of State site it said individuals holding dual citizenship in both the U.S. and Colombia need a Colombian passport to enter/exit Colombia and a U.S. passport to enter/exit the U.S.. Is this the trouble you ran into? So you would only recommend the dual citizenship if the children planned on spending more than 3 months in Colombia? I just want to do what is best, and I guess if them having dual citizenship makes her happy that is the right thing to do.

Also true!
MV-JR
Dec 27 2007, 06:28 PM
Hello all! Tnks for the words of support, I am really nervous specially because I am going to the interview alone !!! Regarding the Pasado Judicial, since I went to the embassy last week to pick up package four I ask the lady if it would be ok to bring the one I had which expires on February, and she said it should be fine but It wouldn’t heart to get a new one.... so today I got a new one good for a year just in case!!
Bill y Bella
Dec 27 2007, 07:10 PM
It looks like we are having 3 interviews on Dec 31. Byron-Leidy, Neophi & MV-JR.
I already wished good luck to Byron & MV-JR so I need to also send some good thoughts to Neophi. Knock em dead Felipe & Silvia!
Best of luck to everyone. It will be so exciting to read about 3 approvals when I get back to the states on the 31st.
neophi
Dec 27 2007, 07:15 PM
QUOTE(maviwaro @ Dec 26 2007, 08:05 PM)

QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 26 2007, 06:43 PM)

This question arose during a conversation between my wife and I, and I was just wondering if anyone had an answer. If my wife and I have a child in the United States, can we apply for Colombian citizenship for the child, so that the child can have both U.S. and Colombian citizenship? Or would the child have to be born in Colombia in order to do that?
Sure... and if its a boy you can count on the young man being expected to do military service in Colombia... 18 months of it unless he got out of it.
lol I've had dual citizenship ever since I can remember and I did high school (except for senior year) in Bogota and never had to do military service. If that would ever happen just renounce the Colombian citizenship or defect back to the U.S. If you ever get caught on the street just play it as a gringo.
And now that I think about it, as far as I know, none of my friends from school did military service ever (even as Colombian citizens only). Maybe by paying libreta militar or something as someone mentioned in a previous post.
Benefits? None in the short run that I can think of other than voting in both countries but what if the U.S. crumbled or something you'll always also be a Colombian. Plus, if you ever decide moving back to Colombia you need your citizenship to work (unless you have a foreign business or something).
PS: SEE YOU GUYS ON MONDAY AT 5:30AM.

Let me cut in line if I get there late hahahaha.
PSS: Thanks Bill and Bella for remembering us! Heheh.
neophi
Dec 27 2007, 07:24 PM
May God bless us all on Monday as well as the CO!
maviwaro
Dec 27 2007, 08:20 PM
Let me hear of Monday as a 100% day! Best wishes guys!
Scott n Yenifer
Dec 27 2007, 08:47 PM
QUOTE(neophi @ Dec 27 2007, 07:15 PM)

PS: SEE YOU GUYS ON MONDAY AT 5:30AM.

Let me cut in line if I get there late hahahaha.
PSS: Thanks Bill and Bella for remembering us! Heheh.
Felipe y Silvia,
OMG...THE BEST OF LUCK TO YOU GUYS ON THE 31st TOO !!!

We didn't you forget guys...just a slight delay is all !!!!
neophi
Dec 27 2007, 08:56 PM
Haha no problem. Thanks.
Btw, my wife went to the medical exam today with Dr. Roa and it went fine. Rumors on Dr. Roa seem to but just that. Myth is bust imo.
She did have to get undressed and in the robe, but she never felt uncomfortable and he didn't give her any bad vibes, nor weird looks. That goes a long way because my wife is very discerning.
snoopy
Dec 27 2007, 09:40 PM
First I want to thank everyone for their help.
Ana,
It is basically just my wife that wants the kids to have the dual citizenship. I have no objections to it, but I really do not see the need for it. She thinks it will make travel easier, but after reviewing the Dept of State site it said individuals holding dual citizenship in both the U.S. and Colombia need a Colombian passport to enter/exit Colombia and a U.S. passport to enter/exit the U.S.. Is this the trouble you ran into? So you would only recommend the dual citizenship if the children planned on spending more than 3 months in Colombia? I just want to do what is best, and I guess if them having dual citizenship makes her happy that is the right thing to do.

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Hi Matt
Everything I had read in this forum regaling your question is true, the trouble I went through with my daughter had more to do with the follow, as I said before, she had to have a Colombian passport because we lived in Colombia for a few yrs. this was like her legal document to have certain benefits such to be able to attend a private school, travel outside the country and have medical insurance.
The real issue is as follow, if your kid travels to Colombia with his/her mom and at the airport the "DAS" registers your kid with the Colombian passport, when your wife and kid leave Colombia your wife will have to have a valid notarized permit from you "the father" that you were ok your kid is leaving Colombia with her mom, so the kid can actually leave the country (he’s using a Colombian passport, DAS uses the Colombian law and protects the kid from being away from one of the parents against anyone’s will), otherwise they will get stuck there until you get one from the Colombian embassy here in the US and send it to her, just to change the flight until you get the document will be $100 for each person, with an US passport DAS won't ask you for this document, So what will be the point?
One time my daughter went alone carrying both of the passports, I paid extra to have assistance from the airline, I didn’t know then that if you carry a Colombian passport you HAVE to enter with the Colombian one, the DAS saw her Col. Passport. She entered as Colombia and when she was supposed to fly back she wasn’t allow to do it ‘cause didn’t have her father and mother’s permit to leave the country, I went through hell that time.
Dual citizenship is good when you can get the benefits in both ways. My daughter only uses her Colombian passport when she wants to stay more than 3 months, (summer vacations) for other than that, can be a tramp.
You have no idea how much I had appreciated to know all this back then, the good thing is that we always learn from our mistakes.
Good luck........ Ana
Matt y Fernanda
Dec 27 2007, 10:28 PM
Thank you everyone for your input on the dual citizenship issue. All this information gives Fernanda and I a lot to consider. I do not see the kids staying more than 3 months at a time in Colombia. I do not know if it will really be necessary for them to have dual citizenship.
Also, Fernanda had her appointment today with Dr. Roa. She said that she had to completely undress. She started to tell me something else was strange, but said she did not know how to explain it in english. So I will find out tomorrow. She is a nurse and told the nurse at the office that it was completely unnecessary. But the nurse insisted that she must undress.
I have another question for those of you who have been to your interview. Fernanda was saying something about having to pay more for the K-3 at the Embassy. I told her that the $100 at the Banco de Credito was all she had to spend. Are there any additional fees besides the interview fee at the Banco de Credito and the Domesa fee you must pay for the K-3 visa?
CamyCar
Dec 27 2007, 10:54 PM
QUOTE(Bill y Bella @ Dec 27 2007, 05:10 PM)

It looks like we are having 3 interviews on Dec 31. Byron-Leidy, Neophi & MV-JR.
I already wished good luck to Byron & MV-JR so I need to also send some good thoughts to Neophi. Knock em dead Felipe & Silvia!
Best of luck to everyone. It will be so exciting to read about 3 approvals when I get back to the states on the 31st.

I concur. The best of luck to everyone. I am eager for our chance to shine, but I can imagine how nerve wracking it is when you are actually "In the Box". Please draw strength from the knowledge that there are many thoughts and prayers going up on your behalf. Stay focused and we will do the worrying!!!
Cameron
Brian and Yenys
Dec 27 2007, 11:50 PM
QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 27 2007, 10:28 PM)

Thank you everyone for your input on the dual citizenship issue. All this information gives Fernanda and I a lot to consider. I do not see the kids staying more than 3 months at a time in Colombia. I do not know if it will really be necessary for them to have dual citizenship.
Also, Fernanda had her appointment today with Dr. Roa. She said that she had to completely undress. She started to tell me something else was strange, but said she did not know how to explain it in english. So I will find out tomorrow. She is a nurse and told the nurse at the office that it was completely unnecessary. But the nurse insisted that she must undress.
I have another question for those of you who have been to your interview. Fernanda was saying something about having to pay more for the K-3 at the Embassy. I told her that the $100 at the Banco de Credito was all she had to spend. Are there any additional fees besides the interview fee at the Banco de Credito and the Domesa fee you must pay for the K-3 visa?
Hello Matt, at the embassy the only thing you have to pay is for the DOMESA Delivered Service right after your Visa will be approved.
God Bless You,

Brian and Yenys
Brian and Yenys
Dec 27 2007, 11:54 PM
For Byron and Leydi, Neophi, MV-JR GOOD LUCK AT THE INTERVIEW, AND THE GRACE OF GOD WILL BE WITH YOU GUYS.

Brian and Yenys
Matt y Fernanda
Dec 28 2007, 12:33 AM
QUOTE(Brian and Yenys @ Dec 27 2007, 11:50 PM)

QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 27 2007, 10:28 PM)

Thank you everyone for your input on the dual citizenship issue. All this information gives Fernanda and I a lot to consider. I do not see the kids staying more than 3 months at a time in Colombia. I do not know if it will really be necessary for them to have dual citizenship.
Also, Fernanda had her appointment today with Dr. Roa. She said that she had to completely undress. She started to tell me something else was strange, but said she did not know how to explain it in english. So I will find out tomorrow. She is a nurse and told the nurse at the office that it was completely unnecessary. But the nurse insisted that she must undress.
I have another question for those of you who have been to your interview. Fernanda was saying something about having to pay more for the K-3 at the Embassy. I told her that the $100 at the Banco de Credito was all she had to spend. Are there any additional fees besides the interview fee at the Banco de Credito and the Domesa fee you must pay for the K-3 visa?
Hello Matt, at the embassy the only thing you have to pay is for the DOMESA Delivered Service right after your Visa will be approved.
God Bless You,

Brian and Yenys

Thank you. She has been worried about not taking enough money with her.
Happy New Year!
Bill y Bella
Dec 28 2007, 12:45 AM
Everytime I think I have everything lined up something else pops up.
I learned today that the name on Bella´s baptism certificate does not match the names on her birth certificate and passport. Her first name was legally changed by the notaria several years ago and her birth certificate and passport reflect the new name. Unfortunately the priest states emphatically that he cannot change the name on the baptism certificate so that it matches the rest of the documents. They did add one of the infamous notas marginales that states that her name has been changed by the notaria and it references the new name in the nota.
Anexo E of Package 4 makes it very clear that the data needs to be consistent on the 3 documents although the emphasis seems to be on dates, place of birth and civil status. Names are not specifically mentioned.
Luckily I did enter her original name as a name previously used on the I-129F & the G-325A so we can´t be accused of providing false or incomplete information.
We are going to get a "fresh" copy of the notaria´s document that offically changed her name and a fresh copy of the baptism certificate. Other than that I can´t think of what else we can do.
Any thoughts?
By the way, I am beginning to understand why the embassy wants to see the baptism certificates. It appears to be ridicuously easy to change one´s name in Colombia. All Bella had to do was pay the notaria a few bucks and presto chango she had a new name. After that she obtained a birth certificate and passport issued in the new name without any problem. It boggles my mind.
buck501
Dec 28 2007, 09:22 AM
Monday is gettin close!! Good luck to all on the interview!!!
Bill y Bella
Dec 28 2007, 09:56 AM
QUOTE(Bill y Bella @ Dec 26 2007, 11:56 PM)

And finally, Bella already has her Certificado Judicial and it is dated June 21, 2007. Will this be acceptable for a February interview? I think I read several times that it is good for one year, but I can´t find confirmation that the embassy will accept one that old.
Thanks!
I wrote to the embassy to confirm that the CJ from June will be acceptable. They wrote back promptly and this is their response:
"The DAS report is valid for one year from time of issuance. It must be valid at the time of the interview and until the person departs for the US."
I am not sure how they know when the beneficiary will leave the country when they issue the visa, but it sounds like we won´t have a problem.
maviwaro
Dec 28 2007, 10:38 AM
QUOTE(Bill y Bella @ Dec 27 2007, 11:45 PM)

Everytime I think I have everything lined up something else pops up.
I learned today that the name on Bella´s baptism certificate does not match the names on her birth certificate and passport. Her first name was legally changed by the notaria several years ago and her birth certificate and passport reflect the new name. Unfortunately the priest states emphatically that he cannot change the name on the baptism certificate so that it matches the rest of the documents. They did add one of the infamous notas marginales that states that her name has been changed by the notaria and it references the new name in the nota.
Anexo E of Package 4 makes it very clear that the data needs to be consistent on the 3 documents although the emphasis seems to be on dates, place of birth and civil status. Names are not specifically mentioned.
Luckily I did enter her original name as a name previously used on the I-129F & the G-325A so we can´t be accused of providing false or incomplete information.
We are going to get a "fresh" copy of the notaria´s document that offically changed her name and a fresh copy of the baptism certificate. Other than that I can´t think of what else we can do.
Any thoughts?
By the way, I am beginning to understand why the embassy wants to see the baptism certificates. It appears to be ridicuously easy to change one´s name in Colombia. All Bella had to do was pay the notaria a few bucks and presto chango she had a new name. After that she obtained a birth certificate and passport issued in the new name without any problem. It boggles my mind.
No new thoughts Bill. You are doing the right thing by adding this notarial document. Maria had a similar issue with the spelling of her last name and I also included the previous name as shown on her birth certificate as well as the change on her cedula. It seems like the dummy that processed her cedula decided he/she didn't like the last name with two z's so they put it s/z. Happens a lot in Colombia apparently. We also took to the Embassy her dad's Spanish passport with two z's in the last name to show extra proof that the name goofup was not intentional by her family. (this also made the interview, apparently, much easier)
You kids will be just fine!
MV-JR
Dec 28 2007, 10:32 PM
Matt y Fernanda
Since we are at the K1 process I am not a 100% sure but according to the information provided in the Bogota Embassy information page at VJ
¨K visa applicants have to pay at the bank because K visas are technically nonimmigrant visas. They cost $100 and the Embassy collects all nonimmigrant visa fees through the bank. Immigrant visas cost $380 and are paid at the Embassy¨
So I believe is a good idea to double check (I am pretty sure that I read the same thing at the embassy homepage)
QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 28 2007, 12:33 AM)

QUOTE(Brian and Yenys @ Dec 27 2007, 11:50 PM)

QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 27 2007, 10:28 PM)

Thank you everyone for your input on the dual citizenship issue. All this information gives Fernanda and I a lot to consider. I do not see the kids staying more than 3 months at a time in Colombia. I do not know if it will really be necessary for them to have dual citizenship.
Also, Fernanda had her appointment today with Dr. Roa. She said that she had to completely undress. She started to tell me something else was strange, but said she did not know how to explain it in english. So I will find out tomorrow. She is a nurse and told the nurse at the office that it was completely unnecessary. But the nurse insisted that she must undress.
I have another question for those of you who have been to your interview. Fernanda was saying something about having to pay more for the K-3 at the Embassy. I told her that the $100 at the Banco de Credito was all she had to spend. Are there any additional fees besides the interview fee at the Banco de Credito and the Domesa fee you must pay for the K-3 visa?
Hello Matt, at the embassy the only thing you have to pay is for the DOMESA Delivered Service right after your Visa will be approved.
God Bless You,

Brian and Yenys

Thank you. She has been worried about not taking enough money with her.
Happy New Year!
Jenny and Jorge
Dec 29 2007, 06:07 AM
I can tell there are very knowledgeable people on the k1 visa process. I was wondering if someone might be able to send me all and any information to help me and my fiancée Jenny, in Bogota Colombia, we are very much in love and want the rest of the process to go smoothly. I have sufficient MB room in my inbox, need forms, advice, checklist, details, and etc.etc. Etc. everything and anything you have to offer would be greatly appreciated. Here is a brief timeline we met December 26th, 2006, engaged March 29th. 2007, I-129F petition received in California Service Center June 12th 2007, Approval notice received December 19th, 2007, ...... now just waiting on VSC to send it to Bogota. I am looking to do everything I can to expedite and insure an approved visa application.
Sincerely
Jorge ( elecpros )
elecpros@bellsouth.net
QUOTE(Peter Miami @ Feb 16 2006, 08:36 PM)

To: All VJ members going through the U.S. Embassy in Bogotá, Colombia.
I am posting this thread because I have had to explain this process many times so by putting it here it should help everyone. The best of luck to your fiancée and you.
You could look at my timeline and get an idea. Remember no two K-1 fiancée visa petitions are exactly the same.
After your petition leaves your service center (CSC/TSC, NVC, VSC) it goes to NVC and it might take about two weeks. From NVC it goes to the U.S. Embassy in Bogotá this usually takes about four or five days.
There are short-cuts that you can take once the petition gets to Bogotá. But the first thing you do is to call NVC every couple of days to a week. Make sure you speak with a customer service representative and not the automated system, K-1’s stay less than two weeks and they do not put them in the system. When you call NVC, get your case number and ask them when they will sent the petition out. Once you know that date, call back on that date and make sure that they sent it out. Then you track the package through www.dhl.com. I will give you the instruction later.
Once the petition gets to the Embassy you or your fiancée faxes and sends by courier (Servientrega); a copy of your fiancées passport, OF-169, DS-2001 and DS-230 part 1. If the Embassy gets these documents before the cut-off date (varies from month to month 16th to the 20th) then you get the interview the following month. If not by the cut-off date you get the interview the month after that.
After the NOA2 every thing moves fast so you need to make sure your fiancée and you get all the documents, paperwork, and all other stuff ready and send it to her.
Good luck,
Peter Miami
Scott n Yenifer
Dec 29 2007, 12:06 PM
QUOTE(elecpros @ Dec 29 2007, 06:07 AM)

I can tell there are very knowledgeable people on the k1 visa process. I was wondering if someone might be able to send me all and any information to help me and my fiancée Jenny, in Bogota Colombia, we are very much in love and want the rest of the process to go smoothly. I have sufficient MB room in my inbox, need forms, advice, checklist, details, and etc.etc. Etc. everything and anything you have to offer would be greatly appreciated. Here is a brief timeline we met December 26th, 2006, engaged March 29th. 2007, I-129F petition received in California Service Center June 12th 2007, Approval notice received December 19th, 2007, ...... now just waiting on VSC to send it to Bogota. I am looking to do everything I can to expedite and insure an approved visa application.
Sincerely
Jorge ( elecpros )
elecpros@bellsouth.net
elecpros,
Go to this post and it will detail the steps you need to take.
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1329162Also you need to update your timeline...
Brian and Yenys
Dec 29 2007, 01:45 PM
QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 27 2007, 10:28 PM)

Thank you everyone for your input on the dual citizenship issue. All this information gives Fernanda and I a lot to consider. I do not see the kids staying more than 3 months at a time in Colombia. I do not know if it will really be necessary for them to have dual citizenship.
Also, Fernanda had her appointment today with Dr. Roa. She said that she had to completely undress. She started to tell me something else was strange, but said she did not know how to explain it in english. So I will find out tomorrow. She is a nurse and told the nurse at the office that it was completely unnecessary. But the nurse insisted that she must undress.
I have another question for those of you who have been to your interview. Fernanda was saying something about having to pay more for the K-3 at the Embassy. I told her that the $100 at the Banco de Credito was all she had to spend. Are there any additional fees besides the interview fee at the Banco de Credito and the Domesa fee you must pay for the K-3 visa?
The charge now is $131.00 USD for the k-3 and k-1 visa application fee....you will not pay any other fee's at the Embassy, except the shipping charge from DOMESA to send the approved visa in passport to your house address....good luck
Matt y Fernanda
Dec 29 2007, 03:09 PM
QUOTE(Brian and Yenys @ Dec 29 2007, 01:45 PM)

QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 27 2007, 10:28 PM)

Thank you everyone for your input on the dual citizenship issue. All this information gives Fernanda and I a lot to consider. I do not see the kids staying more than 3 months at a time in Colombia. I do not know if it will really be necessary for them to have dual citizenship.
Also, Fernanda had her appointment today with Dr. Roa. She said that she had to completely undress. She started to tell me something else was strange, but said she did not know how to explain it in english. So I will find out tomorrow. She is a nurse and told the nurse at the office that it was completely unnecessary. But the nurse insisted that she must undress.
I have another question for those of you who have been to your interview. Fernanda was saying something about having to pay more for the K-3 at the Embassy. I told her that the $100 at the Banco de Credito was all she had to spend. Are there any additional fees besides the interview fee at the Banco de Credito and the Domesa fee you must pay for the K-3 visa?
The charge now is $131.00 USD for the k-3 and k-1 visa application fee....you will not pay any other fee's at the Embassy, except the shipping charge from DOMESA to send the approved visa in passport to your house address....good luckThank you for your help. It is greatly appreciated. Did you pick up your visa at the Domesa office in Bogota or did you have it sent to your home?
Brian and Yenys
Dec 29 2007, 10:44 PM
QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 29 2007, 03:09 PM)

QUOTE(Brian and Yenys @ Dec 29 2007, 01:45 PM)

QUOTE(Matt y Fernanda @ Dec 27 2007, 10:28 PM)

Thank you everyone for your input on the dual citizenship issue. All this information gives Fernanda and I a lot to consider. I do not see the kids staying more than 3 months at a time in Colombia. I do not know if it will really be necessary for them to have dual citizenship.
Also, Fernanda had her appointment today with Dr. Roa. She said that she had to completely undress. She started to tell me something else was strange, but said she did not know how to explain it in english. So I will find out tomorrow. She is a nurse and told the nurse at the office that it was completely unnecessary. But the nurse insisted that she must undress.
I have another question for those of you who have been to your interview. Fernanda was saying something about having to pay more for the K-3 at the Embassy. I told her that the $100 at the Banco de Credito was all she had to spend. Are there any additional fees besides the interview fee at the Banco de Credito and the Domesa fee you must pay for the K-3 visa?
The charge now is $131.00 USD for the k-3 and k-1 visa application fee....you will not pay any other fee's at the Embassy, except the shipping charge from DOMESA to send the approved visa in passport to your house address....good luckThank you for your help. It is greatly appreciated. Did you pick up your visa at the Domesa office in Bogota or did you have it sent to your home?
HI Matt We Pick up The Visa at DOMESA OFFICE CARTAGENA, But we paid for the service that will Deliver it at your house because there is not more option, We Pick it up at the DOMESA OFFICE because we keep calling to DOMESA and They told us that they had our Visa there.
God Bless You,

Brian and Yenys
sldavy
Dec 30 2007, 06:37 PM
I need a little help, My fiancées interview is scheduled for the 23 of January, My plan was to go down there on the 15th, help here with doctors app and paying the bank, get the visa and leave together on the 27th.
How long does it take to get the Visa after the interview? I am in the military so it is not easy for me to stay a long time. I was planning on buying us both tickets to leave on the 27th or 28th. When can we pick up the Visa after it gets approved?????
anyone know?
jimmy477
Dec 30 2007, 10:01 PM
I hate to ask questions that have been answered 1,000 times, but I don't see anything in the non-forum area and my searches turn up nothing helpful. Or perhaps my severe anal retentiveness drives me to ask questions regarded as stupid by others. Anyway, I am filling out the I-129F and G-325A and have concerns about the address format. I figured people in this thread have the most knowledge consdiering it is dedicated to Colombia.
On what line should the barrio be listed? I was thinking for barrio, list it on the street address line as <Barrio> <Calle> X No Yy-Zz.
Should I leave the Zip code blank, or enter None or N/A?
The last thing I want is someone to deny my application for being incorrect, incomplete, or future correspondence not reaching my wife-to-be because the address is not processed correctly.
Would someone who has done this please offer some guidance?
SteveSandyHill
Dec 31 2007, 09:08 AM
Good Luck to all the Interviewees today! Let's end the year with all approvals!!![size="3"][/size]
MV-JR
Dec 31 2007, 10:22 AM
Just drop by to share the good news with you: OUR VISA WAS APPROVED. The interview last few minutes, three questions: how many times have your fiancé has visited you, how many times have you visited him and where did you live while doing your masters degree in USA. Did not ask for any evidence and everything was in Spanish. I will post more details latter on.
It was nice meeting some people from VJ, please let us now how it went for you guys!!!
maviwaro
Dec 31 2007, 11:31 AM
QUOTE(MV-JR @ Dec 31 2007, 09:22 AM)

Just drop by to share the good news with you: OUR VISA WAS APPROVED. The interview last few minutes, three questions: how many times have your fiancé has visited you, how many times have you visited him and where did you live while doing your masters degree in USA. Did not ask for any evidence and everything was in Spanish. I will post more details latter on.
It was nice meeting some people from VJ, please let us now how it went for you guys!!!
Awesome, felicidades MV-JR... a couple more to go to make it 100% today!
snoopy
Dec 31 2007, 12:36 PM
Good Luck to all 31st. appointments, I know you guys will do just fine; we want to hear how things went.
I have a question regarding a K-3 visa documents, they're almost the same as for the K-1 but I need to be sure on what to do.
My husband’s interview will be on January 14, 2008, I paid a lawyer to do all the documents, BUT, my husband called me this morning and he’s kind of worry because the putting all the documents together, and in the same order the Embassy is requesting them the "Affidavit of Support" I sent is not the one the Embassy is asking for, the lawyer gave me I-134 and the Embassy is asking for the I-864 which is a longer form, he’ll be traveling to Bogota next Tuesday and if I need to send him I-864 it’ll have to be done by Wednesday.
PLEASE, any of you guys who already went can suggest on what to do?
Thank you ……. Ana
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU.
maviwaro
Dec 31 2007, 01:17 PM
Gosh snoopy I wish I could be of more help there. I thought that K-3s only needed the I-134... either way, as far as evidence is concerned, I think the only difference between both is that the I-134 technically asks for 1 year of tax return data. If you take the last 3, then you should be about the same as the I-1864. You have to do the I-864 anyway for AOS...
Brian and Yenys
Dec 31 2007, 02:54 PM
Brian and Yenys
Dec 31 2007, 02:58 PM
QUOTE(snoopy @ Dec 31 2007, 12:36 PM)

Good Luck to all 31st. appointments, I know you guys will do just fine; we want to hear how things went.
I have a question regarding a K-3 visa documents, they're almost the same as for the K-1 but I need to be sure on what to do.
My husband’s interview will be on January 14, 2008, I paid a lawyer to do all the documents, BUT, my husband called me this morning and he’s kind of worry because the putting all the documents together, and in the same order the Embassy is requesting them the "Affidavit of Support" I sent is not the one the Embassy is asking for, the lawyer gave me I-134 and the Embassy is asking for the I-864 which is a longer form, he’ll be traveling to Bogota next Tuesday and if I need to send him I-864 it’ll have to be done by Wednesday.
PLEASE, any of you guys who already went can suggest on what to do?
Thank you ……. Ana

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU.

You will need the I-134 for the embassy interview and get it notarized. You will need the I-864 for AOS filing.
I know this to be true for a fact, because I brought both of the affadavits with me to the Embassy and they only wanted the I-134 and returned the I-864 to me. These affadavits should be notarized and include 3 years tax returns, although your only required to have one year. the other two are optional, but give more evidence for them to approve faster....Good Luck !!!

BRIAN AND YENYS
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