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javaman
sorry to say Alma and I are not going to live happily ever after, at least not with each other. without going into too much detail I'll just say we got married within the 90 day time frame but she left and I have filed for divorce, also within the 90 day time frame before her K-1 visa was up.

can anyone out there tell me who I need to contact in immigration? Is it the USCIS? got an email address, postal address or phone number?

anyone had similar experience? how did it work out?

thanks,
Scott
john_and_marlene
QUOTE(javaman @ Aug 1 2006, 12:33 PM) *

sorry to say Alma and I are not going to live happily ever after, at least not with each other. without going into too much detail I'll just say we got married within the 90 day time frame but she left and I have filed for divorce, also within the 90 day time frame before her K-1 visa was up.

can anyone out there tell me who I need to contact in immigration? Is it the USCIS? got an email address, postal address or phone number?

anyone had similar experience? how did it work out?

thanks,
Scott


Why would you need to contact USCIS? There's nothing for you to do.
Mew
Aw, I'm sorry it didn't work out. Well, I'm far from being an expert, but it seems that it doesn't matter which visa she's under. Divorce should proceed like "normal".
john_and_marlene
She has an I-94 valid for 90 days. At the end of the 90 days she will have either returned home or she will be an overstay unless the situation allows her to file for AOS on her own. Unless the relationship was fraudulent, what is it you expect to accomplish?
charles!
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:40 PM) *

She has an I-94 valid for 90 days. At the end of the 90 days she will have either returned home or she will be an overstay unless the situation allows her to file for AOS on her own. Unless the relationship was fraudulent, what is it you expect to accomplish?

i don't think it would hurt for him to keep them informed, as the usc is on the financial hook for the non-usc.

QUOTE(javaman @ Aug 1 2006, 12:33 PM) *

sorry to say Alma and I are not going to live happily ever after, at least not with each other. without going into too much detail I'll just say we got married within the 90 day time frame but she left and I have filed for divorce, also within the 90 day time frame before her K-1 visa was up.

can anyone out there tell me who I need to contact in immigration? Is it the USCIS? got an email address, postal address or phone number?

anyone had similar experience? how did it work out?

thanks,
Scott

rather than divorce, is there a chance at getting it annulled (it might be faster is what i'm thinking - if such is possible in your state)
john_and_marlene
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 12:48 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:40 PM) *

She has an I-94 valid for 90 days. At the end of the 90 days she will have either returned home or she will be an overstay unless the situation allows her to file for AOS on her own. Unless the relationship was fraudulent, what is it you expect to accomplish?

i don't think it would hurt for him to keep them informed, as the usc is on the financial hook for the non-usc.


How is he on the financial hook? They didn't file AOS. He hasn't completed and I-864.
charles!
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 12:48 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:40 PM) *

She has an I-94 valid for 90 days. At the end of the 90 days she will have either returned home or she will be an overstay unless the situation allows her to file for AOS on her own. Unless the relationship was fraudulent, what is it you expect to accomplish?

i don't think it would hurt for him to keep them informed, as the usc is on the financial hook for the non-usc.


How is he on the financial hook? They didn't file AOS. He hasn't completed and I-864.

remember that statement of intent to marry?
john_and_marlene
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 01:03 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 12:48 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:40 PM) *

She has an I-94 valid for 90 days. At the end of the 90 days she will have either returned home or she will be an overstay unless the situation allows her to file for AOS on her own. Unless the relationship was fraudulent, what is it you expect to accomplish?

i don't think it would hurt for him to keep them informed, as the usc is on the financial hook for the non-usc.


How is he on the financial hook? They didn't file AOS. He hasn't completed and I-864.

remember that statement of intent to marry?

What about it? He did marry her. Intentions don't create legally binding contracts...the I-864 does.
charles!
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 01:07 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 01:03 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 12:48 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:40 PM) *

She has an I-94 valid for 90 days. At the end of the 90 days she will have either returned home or she will be an overstay unless the situation allows her to file for AOS on her own. Unless the relationship was fraudulent, what is it you expect to accomplish?

i don't think it would hurt for him to keep them informed, as the usc is on the financial hook for the non-usc.


How is he on the financial hook? They didn't file AOS. He hasn't completed and I-864.

remember that statement of intent to marry?

What about it? He did marry her. Intentions don't create legally binding contracts...the I-864 does.

i-134 affidavit of support - part 5: that i am willing and able to receive, maintain, and support the person named in item 3. (more stuff but i'm not gonna type it)
part 6 - ....this affidavit will be binding upon me for a period of three (3) years....
so he is on the hook for her financially - and he should report to uscis what is going on for that reason
all of this is part of the package sent to the fiance(e) prior to approval of the visa.

i-134
john_and_marlene
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 01:11 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 01:07 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 01:03 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 12:48 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:40 PM) *

She has an I-94 valid for 90 days. At the end of the 90 days she will have either returned home or she will be an overstay unless the situation allows her to file for AOS on her own. Unless the relationship was fraudulent, what is it you expect to accomplish?

i don't think it would hurt for him to keep them informed, as the usc is on the financial hook for the non-usc.


How is he on the financial hook? They didn't file AOS. He hasn't completed and I-864.

remember that statement of intent to marry?

What about it? He did marry her. Intentions don't create legally binding contracts...the I-864 does.

i-134 affidavit of support - part 5: that i am willing and able to receive, maintain, and support the person named in item 3. (more stuff but i'm not gonna type it)
part 6 - ....this affidavit will be binding upon me for a period of three (3) years....
so he is on the hook for her financially - and he should report to uscis what is going on for that reason
all of this is part of the package sent to the fiance(e) prior to approval of the visa.

i-134


http://www.lawhelp.org/WA/showdocument.cfm...mcodeid/1711201

Effect on the sponsor: The Affidavit of support form I-134 is not legally binding on the sponsor. This means that neither the sponsored immigrant nor the government can sue the sponsor to recover the cost of public benefits paid to the sponsored immigrant.




The uninforceability of the I-134 was the reason for the creation of the I-864
javaman
thanks guys. actually the main reason for my concern was the fact that I had signed the I-134. I want to know what my responsibility was from this point.

I don't know where she is now but I hope she's happy. Don't really care if she stays in the US or not as long as I don't have to pay the bill and I don't get in any type of trouble for not reporting the failure of the terms of the K-1 visa.

your comments have been helpful. good luck to you.

scott
isleta521
Just want to say truly sorry that it did not work out for you both.
javaman
thanks guys. actually the main reason for my concern was the fact that I had signed the I-134. I want to know what my responsibility was from this point.

I don't know where she is now but I hope she's happy. Don't really care if she stays in the US or not as long as I don't have to pay the bill and I don't get in any type of trouble for not reporting the failure of the terms of the K-1 visa.

your comments have been helpful. good luck to you.

scott

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 01:11 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 01:07 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 01:03 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 12:48 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:40 PM) *

She has an I-94 valid for 90 days. At the end of the 90 days she will have either returned home or she will be an overstay unless the situation allows her to file for AOS on her own. Unless the relationship was fraudulent, what is it you expect to accomplish?

i don't think it would hurt for him to keep them informed, as the usc is on the financial hook for the non-usc.


How is he on the financial hook? They didn't file AOS. He hasn't completed and I-864.

remember that statement of intent to marry?

What about it? He did marry her. Intentions don't create legally binding contracts...the I-864 does.

i-134 affidavit of support - part 5: that i am willing and able to receive, maintain, and support the person named in item 3. (more stuff but i'm not gonna type it)
part 6 - ....this affidavit will be binding upon me for a period of three (3) years....
so he is on the hook for her financially - and he should report to uscis what is going on for that reason
all of this is part of the package sent to the fiance(e) prior to approval of the visa.

i-134

asante

If I had seen that photo before she came here I would have warned you.Sorry I could not help.


QUOTE(javaman @ Aug 1 2006, 01:33 PM) *

sorry to say Alma and I are not going to live happily ever after, at least not with each other. without going into too much detail I'll just say we got married within the 90 day time frame but she left and I have filed for divorce, also within the 90 day time frame before her K-1 visa was up.

can anyone out there tell me who I need to contact in immigration? Is it the USCIS? got an email address, postal address or phone number?

anyone had similar experience? how did it work out?

thanks,
Scott

javaman
thanks guys. actually the main reason for my concern was the fact that I had signed the I-134. I want to know what my responsibility was from this point.

I don't know where she is now but I hope she's happy. Don't really care if she stays in the US or not as long as I don't have to pay the bill and I don't get in any type of trouble for not reporting the failure of the terms of the K-1 visa.

your comments have been helpful. good luck to you.

scott

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 01:38 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 01:11 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 01:07 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 01:03 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Aug 1 2006, 12:48 PM) *

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 1 2006, 12:40 PM) *

She has an I-94 valid for 90 days. At the end of the 90 days she will have either returned home or she will be an overstay unless the situation allows her to file for AOS on her own. Unless the relationship was fraudulent, what is it you expect to accomplish?

i don't think it would hurt for him to keep them informed, as the usc is on the financial hook for the non-usc.


How is he on the financial hook? They didn't file AOS. He hasn't completed and I-864.

remember that statement of intent to marry?

What about it? He did marry her. Intentions don't create legally binding contracts...the I-864 does.

i-134 affidavit of support - part 5: that i am willing and able to receive, maintain, and support the person named in item 3. (more stuff but i'm not gonna type it)
part 6 - ....this affidavit will be binding upon me for a period of three (3) years....
so he is on the hook for her financially - and he should report to uscis what is going on for that reason
all of this is part of the package sent to the fiance(e) prior to approval of the visa.

i-134


http://www.lawhelp.org/WA/showdocument.cfm...mcodeid/1711201

Effect on the sponsor: The Affidavit of support form I-134 is not legally binding on the sponsor. This means that neither the sponsored immigrant nor the government can sue the sponsor to recover the cost of public benefits paid to the sponsored immigrant.




The uninforceability of the I-134 was the reason for the creation of the I-864

charles!
QUOTE(javaman @ Aug 1 2006, 02:10 PM) *

thanks guys. actually the main reason for my concern was the fact that I had signed the I-134. I want to know what my responsibility was from this point.

I don't know where she is now but I hope she's happy. Don't really care if she stays in the US or not as long as I don't have to pay the bill and I don't get in any type of trouble for not reporting the failure of the terms of the K-1 visa.

your comments have been helpful. good luck to you.

scott

the i-134 and such has been explained to me in pm and my previous posts were in error. i learned something today, ty john good.gif
phatmadame81
QUOTE(isleta521 @ Aug 1 2006, 03:11 PM) *

Just want to say truly sorry that it did not work out for you both.


Just wanted to say I am sorry to hear about this.
mychelle
sorry to hear about your situation. i hope it will be taken cared of soon.




QUOTE(asante @ Aug 1 2006, 02:12 PM) *

If I had seen that photo before she came here I would have warned you.Sorry I could not help.



i went and checked out what you were talking about. it is because of the body language and the facial expression? i'm curious about this...just a bit. they have something like this featured in People Mag on celeb couples who are "happy" or on the "rocks" and it shows in the picture. i'm not sure how accurate that is though. unsure.gif
asante


Yes you can see she is hiding smthng....usually when one couple is looking away from the other in the picture, look at one of them and you will know whether the happiness is real or feigned.
mrc
In the pic in my avatar, my fiancee is not looking at me. Should I be worried?
asante
No, your cutie looks more real. C'mmon you can tell..that the other girl was a joke from the photo..she doesnt sound real..
mychelle
^i don't know if you should worry about that. she looks really happy though. smile.gif that's why i said i'm unsure about the picture-analysis thing. i think it's up to the couple to know if they are both happy or only one is (or worse neither of them is!) :/
mrc
Ok, good. I didn't want to have to get rid of her. I'm very fond of her. laughing.gif Hi Susie!
asante
Isnt the question whether she is fond enough of you as to land in the US and still be yours even after she knows that she now has all the freedoms?

Analogy: Most caged birds fly away when they come out of a cage, though some loyal ones are known to stick around even when the cage door is open.


QUOTE(mrc @ Aug 1 2006, 04:20 PM) *

Ok, good. I didn't want to have to get rid of her. I'm very fond of her. laughing.gif Hi Susie!
mrc
QUOTE(asante @ Aug 1 2006, 03:23 PM) *

Isnt the question whether she is fond enough of you as to land in the US and still be yours even after she knows she knows she now has the freedom?

Analogy: Most caged birds fly away when they come out of a cage, though some loyal ones are known to stick around even when the cage door is open.


QUOTE(mrc @ Aug 1 2006, 04:20 PM) *

Ok, good. I didn't want to have to get rid of her. I'm very fond of her. laughing.gif Hi Susie!



Yeah, dude. I was just joking when I was asking about analysis of my pic. I'm not worried. I can just do what I do. We know each other pretty well...we lived together for several months. She treats me well...the only thing I can do is reciprocate.
dmartmar
QUOTE
Why would you need to contact USCIS? There's nothing for you to do.


DO contact the USCIS! She used you for a Green Card!

Write to the Agency, asking them to withdraw ALL OF YOUR PETITIONS ASAP! Include her A#, a timeline of the events, EVERYTHING!

SEND HER FRAUDULENT ### BACK HOME! SHE DESERVES IT!

AND DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!
rushter
QUOTE
but she left and I have filed for divorce, also within the 90 day time frame before her K-1 visa was up.


You say she left... left as in where? Back to khazakstan or to the friends cousin's brothers house in the next city?

There may be other issues if she's still floating around in the states...
john_and_marlene
QUOTE(dmartmar @ Aug 1 2006, 09:34 PM) *

QUOTE
Why would you need to contact USCIS? There's nothing for you to do.


DO contact the USCIS! She used you for a Green Card!

Write to the Agency, asking them to withdraw ALL OF YOUR PETITIONS ASAP! Include her A#, a timeline of the events, EVERYTHING!

SEND HER FRAUDULENT ### BACK HOME! SHE DESERVES IT!

AND DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!


I didn't see anything that indicated they had filed the I-485. Was the I-485 sent in?
javaman
No, an I-485 was not sent in. I was waiting for the immunization records to be returned from the civil surgeon.

I do plan on contacting the USCIS by mail, I'm unable to find a phone number or email address.

FYI I'm okay with her leaving. It's complicated why the relationship didn't work out but for the benifit of others I'll say that a lot of the problems had to do with the differences and philosophies in raising children. She has a child that's 12 and I have 2 children, 11 & 13 and there was a lot of friction which began soon after they arrived. The children were only one factor though of many other what I would call small differences that eventually added up to one big mistake.

I wish everybody on VJ the best of luck and I'm sure that the majority of these relationships do work out but it's not the end of the world if your in the minority and it doesn't work.

scott

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 2 2006, 05:26 AM) *

QUOTE(dmartmar @ Aug 1 2006, 09:34 PM) *

QUOTE
Why would you need to contact USCIS? There's nothing for you to do.


DO contact the USCIS! She used you for a Green Card!

Write to the Agency, asking them to withdraw ALL OF YOUR PETITIONS ASAP! Include her A#, a timeline of the events, EVERYTHING!

SEND HER FRAUDULENT ### BACK HOME! SHE DESERVES IT!

AND DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!


I didn't see anything that indicated they had filed the I-485. Was the I-485 sent in?

john_and_marlene
QUOTE(javaman @ Aug 2 2006, 07:36 AM) *

No, an I-485 was not sent in. I was waiting for the immunization records to be returned from the civil surgeon.

I do plan on contacting the USCIS by mail, I'm unable to find a phone number or email address.

FYI I'm okay with her leaving. It's complicated why the relationship didn't work out but for the benifit of others I'll say that a lot of the problems had to do with the differences and philosophies in raising children. She has a child that's 12 and I have 2 children, 11 & 13 and there was a lot of friction which began soon after they arrived. The children were only one factor though of many other what I would call small differences that eventually added up to one big mistake.

I wish everybody on VJ the best of luck and I'm sure that the majority of these relationships do work out but it's not the end of the world if your in the minority and it doesn't work.

scott

QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 2 2006, 05:26 AM) *

QUOTE(dmartmar @ Aug 1 2006, 09:34 PM) *

QUOTE
Why would you need to contact USCIS? There's nothing for you to do.


DO contact the USCIS! She used you for a Green Card!

Write to the Agency, asking them to withdraw ALL OF YOUR PETITIONS ASAP! Include her A#, a timeline of the events, EVERYTHING!

SEND HER FRAUDULENT ### BACK HOME! SHE DESERVES IT!

AND DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!


I didn't see anything that indicated they had filed the I-485. Was the I-485 sent in?



I don't understand what you have to tell them then as there is no pending application to revoke. If there had been fraud, you could notify ICE but that's not the case here either. What do you expect USCIS to do with your letter? There's no case to file it with ... she didn't get an LPR A#. I expect it would be disregarded.

There's no rule/advantage/reason/form/requirement for reporting a divorce to USCIS.
ceriserose
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 2 2006, 05:49 AM) *

There's no case to file it with ... she didn't get an LPR A#. I expect it would be disregarded.


Just because this statement confused me, I'm asking. tongue.gif

The A# I was assigned during the K1 side of the process is the same one I have as an LPR. Is that not the case with everyone?

Or did you mean that the A# assigned is not 'tied' to an LPR status?
gtigiant
i have to say that your attitude concerning these circumstances is very admirable. I wish you the best possible resolution to all of this and happy future.
Yodrak
ceriserose,

Your experience is what should happen. But some people accumulate 2 or possibly more A#s from the various applications that are submitted to USCIS along the way. Especially if they do not put their A# where asked for on the applications the USCIS may assign a new A# to that application.

Many people do not realize that they get an A# right at the beginning with the petition, in part because the USCIS does not always put the A# on the Receipt Notice and sometimes not on the Approval Notice.

Yodrak

QUOTE(ceriserose @ Aug 2 2006, 10:51 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 2 2006, 05:49 AM) *

There's no case to file it with ... she didn't get an LPR A#. I expect it would be disregarded.


Just because this statement confused me, I'm asking.

The A# I was assigned during the K1 side of the process is the same one I have as an LPR. Is that not the case with everyone?

Or did you mean that the A# assigned is not 'tied' to an LPR status?
ceriserose
That clears things up, thank you. smile.gif


QUOTE(Yodrak @ Aug 2 2006, 11:27 AM) *

ceriserose,

Your experience is what should happen. But some people accumulate 2 or possibly more A#s from the various applications that are submitted to USCIS along the way. Especially if they do not put their A# where asked for on the applications the USCIS may assign a new A# to that application.

Many people do not realize that they get an A# right at the beginning with the petition, in part because the USCIS does not always put the A# on the Receipt Notice and sometimes not on the Approval Notice.

Yodrak

QUOTE(ceriserose @ Aug 2 2006, 10:51 AM) *
QUOTE(john_and_marlene @ Aug 2 2006, 05:49 AM) *

There's no case to file it with ... she didn't get an LPR A#. I expect it would be disregarded.


Just because this statement confused me, I'm asking.

The A# I was assigned during the K1 side of the process is the same one I have as an LPR. Is that not the case with everyone?

Or did you mean that the A# assigned is not 'tied' to an LPR status?


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