just wondering if ANYONE WITH a NOA2 who was sent a IMBRA rfe approved yet???

Quite a few in VSC and few in CSC with NOA1s. Some of the cases have even been forwarded to the consulates. They just won't approved the recalled cases! the NOA2s.

yes i have read about thos cases...which don't get me wrong is GREAT...i am happy for all the new people getting approved....just kinda sucks that all the recalled people are being put on the back burner for something that isn't even OUR fault!!
but anyone who has been approved and got recalled approved??? and why haven't they yet?

There was ONE recalled case approved with a NOA2 (CSC) so far - according to our chart. No one knows for sure why they just won't approve our cases. There doesn't seem to be any kind of pattern.

Here, take a look at the chart: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20652

yes i see....it just doesn't make sense....

No, it doesn't. But we have been doing some maths and we're expecting some of our cases to be approved by next week. They've been taking 2 weeks to approve cases after getting the NOA1's RFE's back. So... We're getting close. Hopefully.

wow 2 weeks....craziness....it seems like they are doing it backwards....

There are two so far:

Abigail
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry325569

and

Uzy36
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry324819
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry325861
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry325873

I also like to think that the reason they haven´t approved a recalled case from Vermont yet is that it´s taking them aprox. 2 weeks to do so.

Seems like the process is the same. They receive the RFE back and after 15 days or so they approve it.
But for now we can only guess, since it hasn´t been 15 days since the VSC recalled cases got the RFE update.

Let´s hope for news this week.
I just hope they are not still "trying to figure what to do" with the recalled cases.
Some of us are only waiting for an approval, after dealing with all the IMBRA thing..
They must be ready to reapprove the cases now.

This has been my fear all along. I had posted earlier 2 weeks ago that an officer in Vermont told me that "there is no Protocol to process NOA2's and sure you will get your RFE but..." He kind of stopped there. My big fear is that they really don't know what to do and maybe expect legal challenges to the IMBRA Bill and dont want to be caught up in Lawsuits? At this point I just want things to move forward. This delay is Unforgivable for us to be put on the back burner after being lied to so many times by the NVC and USCIS. The slow burn is starting to boil over again.

Don´t really think that´s the case..
They are approving people with IMBRA RFE.
The only difference would be if they had a problem puting our new NOA2 in their system, but I don´t think there´s any difference at the law..

After getting a RFE, the process should be the same for people with only NOA1 or NOA2...
Unles there´s something else we don´t know yet... but I don´t think that would be related to IMBRA itself.

see that is the problem i am having with this...why the hold up??? if they are processing it like noa1's why not the same for us?? UNLESS could they be sending us NEW noa2's and that is the hold up? because i think a lot of our noa'2 have expired

I think we´ll be getting a new NOA2. Actually I´m positive that we will.
I just don´t know what will happen with our case number at NVC once the case is back there.

But yeah.. some people like Mew and Mike have had their RFEs received back at VSC, have been touched a few days in a row and nothing else.
I think VSC is about to issue their new NOA2, with a new expiration date.

Those 2 approvals cited do not appear to be recalled NOA2 cases.

You're right... they are not. I mis-read the OP's original post... sorry....

Jen

Yes, we will get a new NOA2. The reopening of a case invalidates the previous approval. And how else would they let us know it's approved? But I suspect we will have the same case number so as to not confuse the consulates. (Paris still has us in their system - someone called to discuss our case but we missed the call, message left, need to fax them tomorrow....more explanation on that when we have more info.....if anyone is interested.....strange though, that a consulate would call.....)

I heard that this is the first time CIS has had to deal with a recall so I suspect their computer system doesn't account for situations like this - nor the staff. So who knows how the RFE's are handled.

(Segue: Why the heck would they send a file off to storage before the visa was approved by the foreign consulate? 2 months to reunite ours.)

As for the supposed recall approvals - since they erroneously approved cases before, I suspect they may have erroneously approved a couple recalls, seeing as how they apparently erroneously do everything. Otherwise we would be seeing more approvals than what we have. (NOTE: both the people JenT listed are NOT recalls, aka NOA2's with rfe's, so I suspect there are no approved recalled cases.)

At the end of the day they should have let the 1100 erroneously approved cases go and not recall. I can only dream........erroneously.......

On a positive note, if the RFE is processed in a timely manner, we may see some action this week. The RFE itself states a "minimum of 14 days" is needed for processing. Also, I'm under the impression we will receive our news via snail mail (new i-797C notice of action) and that may be the reason for some more delays. Just pure speculation though.

So you think the recalled case approved at CSC (rene's) was erroneously approved?



I think rene got un update through e-mail. Otherwise, she wouldn't have know it was approved in just 1 day.

Dude, this makes me freak out. I hope this isn't true and they have it all figured out by now and everything happens as rlt described. I mean, please. Pleeeeease.

My speculation on Rene's case is based on what she posted (lower portion):

6/26 - RFE letter (received by me 7/3)
7/5 - overnite RFE to CSC (arrives to CSC 7/6)
7/12 - USCIS website touch
7/13 - USCIS website confirm received RFE
7/14 - touch
7/17 - receive noa stating case is approved. Again, it is the EXACT same format as the first approval - NO mention of the RFE. The Notice date is 7/13; and the valid dates are 7/14 - 11/13. Also, it is curious that there is no mention of it on the USCIS website -- just the same touch from 7/14 stating the standard notice of reciept of the RFE from 7/13. The NOA envelope is postmarked 7/14 and it is sent presorted first class.

Rene
According to her post, she did get a confirmation they received the RFE and then received one touch the next day. She then received her I-797C notice of action in the snail mail which indicated the notice date which is the "approval" date. In my interpretation, she never received any email that indicated her case was reapproved. Being that it was CSC, this process may be different from Vermont although in the RFE receipt email notice I and many others have received it mentions that written notification will be provided in the case of further action. Hopefully, the next approved cases will also provide email notification of approval.

Oh, I see what you mean. Okay. It *is* weird. She got an approval right after she sent the RFE. I thought the touch she got on 7/14 was the approval touch, but I think I was mistaken.

Wel, in order to verify that what we say on the RFE is true the RFE's must be sent to the FBI right? So it seems that would havesomething to do with the delay, if it is the case.

Yeah, but what I mean is, ALL RFEs will have the same procedure. The ones going to NOA1 people and the ones going to recalled people. They are the same.

If it´s taking about 15 days to proces theirs, we should give them more time.
We have people with RFE receipt from July12th.
Today is only the 23rd and it´s a sunday.

I think we weren´t first in line because of all the procedure to reopen the cases. Now it will be the same for those already reopened.. This is what I think.

I think we should "consider a new NOA1 date" to reopened cases.
Then we got the RFE and as it says on the letter, it will take a minimun of 14 days.

And that´s what I´ve been seeing happening with the NOA1 people..

Exactly, the procedure will be the same most likely for the processing of the IMBRA RFES. We have already seen a pattern develop with the NOA1s getting approval (about 15 or more days at least) which coincides with the statement on the RFE about the 14 day minumum for processing. The one approved recall NOA2 does not appear to follow any of the patterns of the other approved NOA1s.

Yes, I'm very interested in the call from the embassy in Paris. Did they call you, or your fiance? Was it Friday they called? the details would be interesting. Had your fiance already received the instruction packet ? Mine had received and returned it around May 5 before the IMBRA thing hit. It would be very helpful to hear what it is they have to say. I had no luck trying to reach a live body in Paris when I was trying to find out what the hang up was back in May.

I´m also curious...

I kind of feel like calling the Consulate in Brazil to se if they have any news.

Lewis, even if the pattern says 15 days, we saw some people having their case approved in 10 days or even less.

I know, I know.. but I´m still hoping it will be at anyday now..

I like how we behave like Pollyanas. It's so nice...

Are you serious?

That last comment above helps no one at all. There is a major difference between being optimistic and blindly optimistic, which none of us are. Also, many people have been dealing with this group and contributed to this group in different ways. I understand people are pissed but I refuse to waste my energy that way. IMO, the best way to express your displeasure and get a response is through your congresspeople which I have recommended numerous times. The bottom line is people are responsible for their own choices and words. I will continue to encourage people to stay positive.

It's been quite challenging lately to contribute to this forum in a positive manner due to all of the anger and frustration around. I have even seen newbies and others getting criticized for saying their petition was approved. It's getting to the point where just being positive is being criticized.

The fact remains that all of us have recalled petitions and it would be wise to work together to share info.

I think I was misunderstood. I'm sorry that you got mad at this comment. I have been doing everything in my power to contribute to this forum as far as good vibes go. Although I've been at times jealous of people whose petitions have been approved a lot sooner than ours (recalled ones), I feel happy for them (it's not anybody's fault whose case is processed sooner or later) and I have never expressed any word of resentment towards them and I do my best to encourage them and everyone else in this forum who I have been in touch with to take an optimistic approach to the whole process even if it takes a long, long time.

It wasn't meant to be a sarcastic comment and sometimes *I* like to be Pollyana-optimistic because it keeps me going, despite of every concrete effort that I may make (which isn't much, considering I'm the beneficiary). I have been freaking out and calming people down many times, in waves. I apologize, though, because the last thing we need is to get into arguments when we're supposed to be supporting each other.

Mew, of all the people here you have helped the most and I appreciate it so much! Sorry I took it out of context, I was kind of shocked at first.

There have been days when I wanted to share good news but then I see all the venting posts and I just decide to pm a couple of people. It really has been that negative. I want to say I did not intend to imply you were negative all the time, just this particular comment. Thank you for all of the hard work and information.

I understand, Lewis. Everybody gets a bit nervous at times and I've noticed, like you did, that good news haven't been taken as the good news they are, if they aren't connected to one's particular case. I try my best to help you and everyone here, and I put my heart into it. Maybe the comment came out as being negative, but it was certainly not my intention.