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Lestat
I recently ran into this article on IMBRA written by Wendy McElroy, a highly respected feminist writer. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180487,00.html
vartan
go to this link

http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/images/IMBRA2005.pdf

Go to H.R 3402-112 under (d) REGULATION OF INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKERS.— And read what is required.. these people writing these conspiriacy articles need to read the actual act.. Any man that does not want to submit his criminal background as described in the act does not deserve a foreign wife.. I dont care if you think that is is "an invasion of privacy" If you commited a heinous crime like that you gave up your rights before.. .

Sorry these are just my oppinions and not directed to any specific person. OK so I posted it below for people that don't want to open the attachment on the link.

(d) REGULATION OF INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKERS.—
(1) PROHIBITION ON MARKETING CHILDREN.—An international
marriage broker shall not provide any individual or
entity with the personal contact information, photograph, or
general information about the background or interests of any
individual under the age of 18.
(2) REQUIREMENTS OF INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKERS
WITH RESPECT TO MANDATORY COLLECTION OF BACKGROUND
INFORMATION.—
H. R. 3402—113
(A) IN GENERAL.—
(i) SEARCH OF SEX OFFENDER PUBLIC REGISTRIES.—
Each international marriage broker shall search the
National Sex Offender Public Registry or State sex
offender public registry, as required under paragraph
(3)(A)(i).
(ii) COLLECTION OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION.—
Each international marriage broker shall also collect
the background information listed in subparagraph (cool.gif
about the United States client to whom the personal
contact information of a foreign national client would
be provided.
(cool.gif BACKGROUND INFORMATION.—The international
marriage broker shall collect a certification signed (in written,
electronic, or other form) by the United States client
accompanied by documentation or an attestation of the
following background information about the United States
client:
(i) Any temporary or permanent civil protection
order or restraining order issued against the United
States client.
(ii) Any Federal, State, or local arrest or conviction
of the United States client for homicide, murder, manslaughter,
assault, battery, domestic violence, rape,
sexual assault, abusive sexual contact, sexual exploitation,
incest, child abuse or neglect, torture, trafficking,
peonage, holding hostage, involuntary servitude,
slave trade, kidnapping, abduction, unlawful
criminal restraint, false imprisonment, or stalking.
(iii) Any Federal, State, or local arrest or conviction
of the United States client for—
(I) solely, principally, or incidentally engaging
in prostitution;
(II) a direct or indirect attempt to procure
prostitutes or persons for the purpose of prostitution;
or
(III) receiving, in whole or in part, of the proceeds
of prostitution.
(iv) Any Federal, State, or local arrest or conviction
of the United States client for offenses related to controlled
substances or alcohol.
(v) Marital history of the United States client,
including whether the client is currently married,
whether the client has previously been married and
how many times, how previous marriages of the client
were terminated and the date of termination, and
whether the client has previously sponsored an alien
to whom the client was engaged or married.
(vi) The ages of any of the United States client’s
children who are under the age of 18.
(vii) All States and countries in which the United
States client has resided since the client was 18 years
of age.
Lestat
By the way, the above article is not a conspiracy theory. It was written by a well-published, highly regarded feminist.
Dean iWait
QUOTE(vartan @ Jul 14 2006, 09:11 AM) *

go to this link

http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/images/IMBRA2005.pdf

Go to H.R 3402-112 under (d) REGULATION OF INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKERS.— And read what is required.. these people writing these conspiriacy articles need to read the actual act.. Any man that does not want to submit his criminal background as described in the act does not deserve a foreign wife.. I dont care if you think that is is "an invasion of privacy" If you commited a heinous crime like that you gave up your rights before.. .

Sorry these are just my oppinions and not directed to any specific person. OK so I posted it below for people that don't want to open the attachment on the link.

(d) REGULATION OF INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKERS.—
(1) PROHIBITION ON MARKETING CHILDREN.—An international
marriage broker shall not provide any individual or
entity with the personal contact information, photograph, or
general information about the background or interests of any
individual under the age of 18.
(2) REQUIREMENTS OF INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKERS
WITH RESPECT TO MANDATORY COLLECTION OF BACKGROUND
INFORMATION.—
H. R. 3402—113
(A) IN GENERAL.—
(i) SEARCH OF SEX OFFENDER PUBLIC REGISTRIES.—
Each international marriage broker shall search the
National Sex Offender Public Registry or State sex
offender public registry, as required under paragraph
(3)(A)(i).
(ii) COLLECTION OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION.—
Each international marriage broker shall also collect
the background information listed in subparagraph (cool.gif
about the United States client to whom the personal
contact information of a foreign national client would
be provided.
(cool.gif BACKGROUND INFORMATION.—The international
marriage broker shall collect a certification signed (in written,
electronic, or other form) by the United States client
accompanied by documentation or an attestation of the
following background information about the United States
client:
(i) Any temporary or permanent civil protection
order or restraining order issued against the United
States client.
(ii) Any Federal, State, or local arrest or conviction
of the United States client for homicide, murder, manslaughter,
assault, battery, domestic violence, rape,
sexual assault, abusive sexual contact, sexual exploitation,
incest, child abuse or neglect, torture, trafficking,
peonage, holding hostage, involuntary servitude,
slave trade, kidnapping, abduction, unlawful
criminal restraint, false imprisonment, or stalking.
(iii) Any Federal, State, or local arrest or conviction
of the United States client for—
(I) solely, principally, or incidentally engaging
in prostitution;
(II) a direct or indirect attempt to procure
prostitutes or persons for the purpose of prostitution;
or
(III) receiving, in whole or in part, of the proceeds
of prostitution.
(iv) Any Federal, State, or local arrest or conviction
of the United States client for offenses related to controlled
substances or alcohol.
(v) Marital history of the United States client,
including whether the client is currently married,
whether the client has previously been married and
how many times, how previous marriages of the client
were terminated and the date of termination, and
whether the client has previously sponsored an alien
to whom the client was engaged or married.
(vi) The ages of any of the United States client’s
children who are under the age of 18.
(vii) All States and countries in which the United
States client has resided since the client was 18 years
of age.




All the predators, murderers and rapists need to do is join myspace, yahoo personals or match. Then this portion of the law doesn't apply.
vartan
I read the article and conspiracy theory or ignorance comes out when reading it.. some quotes are ..

"— Any arrest or conviction for "similar activity in violation of Federal, State or local criminal law" without specifying what "similar" means."

IMBRA does specifically state the convictions.

"— Any arrest or conviction related to controlled substances, alcohol or prostitution, making no distinction on arrests not leading to conviction;"

Yes it does it says arrest or conviction.. so arrest without conviction is an arrest..

"U.S. law will provide foreign women with extensive government information on American suitors that is not similarly offered to American women — which it shouldn't it be either."

Extensive? Their criminal history, marriage history, how many kids they have.. I don't find that extensive..
a US citizen can request criminal history on an individual any time.
vartan
QUOTE
All the predators, murderers and rapists need to do is join myspace, yahoo personals or match. Then this portion of the law doesn't apply.


You are right .. this is directed to Marriage Brokers.. perhaps in the future another act will be passed.. who knows.
Madison Man
QUOTE(Lestat @ Jul 14 2006, 11:19 AM) *

By the way, the above article is not a conspiracy theory. It was written by a well-published, highly regarded feminist.



Yeah LOL!!!!!
Like there ever was one!
Lewis
QUOTE(Lestat @ Jul 14 2006, 10:48 AM) *

I recently ran into this article on IMBRA written by Wendy McElroy, a highly respected feminist writer. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180487,00.html


blink.gif Someone needs to crawl back into their cave and study some more US civics! And it isn't a "highly respected feminist writer" laughing.gif
Madison Man
QUOTE(Lewis @ Jul 14 2006, 01:54 PM) *

QUOTE(Lestat @ Jul 14 2006, 10:48 AM) *

I recently ran into this article on IMBRA written by Wendy McElroy, a highly respected feminist writer. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180487,00.html


blink.gif Someone needs to crawl back into their cave and study some more US civics! And it isn't a "highly respected feminist writer" laughing.gif



TWO THUMBS UP
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Lewis
The Original Poster has lost total credibility in this forum due to misleading references to "articles" and the involved authors of said "articles" most of which have been posted multiple times.

I'll say it again, this forum is intended for people that are struggling to be reunited with their loved ones and not intended for uneducated trolls to spew misinformation.
vartan
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I'll say it again, this forum is intended for people that are struggling to be reunited with their loved ones and not intended for uneducated trolls to spew misinformation.


But ya have to admit dealing with the trolls at times are fun devil.gif
Lewis
Hey Vartan, flame on, I'm going to the beach! Don't let me down!


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charles!
QUOTE(Lewis @ Jul 14 2006, 12:54 PM) *

QUOTE(Lestat @ Jul 14 2006, 10:48 AM) *

I recently ran into this article on IMBRA written by Wendy McElroy, a highly respected feminist writer. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180487,00.html


blink.gif Someone needs to crawl back into their cave and study some more US civics! And it isn't a "highly respected feminist writer" laughing.gif

i suppose it depends on what one counts as a highly respected feminist writer.
from the article:
Wendy McElroy is the editor of ifeminists.com and a research fellow for The Independent Institute in Oakland, Calif. She is the author and editor of many books and articles, including the new book, "Liberty for Women: Freedom and Feminism in the 21st Century" (Ivan R. Dee/Independent Institute, 2002). She lives with her husband in Canada.
vartan
It comes down to the article not her.. There are many respectible writers out there... but I research everything I read because I don't want to be the one spouting out false truths.. The thing that confuses me is I think a feminist would like this act... but that is just me.. I couldn't really answer I am not a feminist.. either way .. the article mis-quotes the actual act.. and misrepresents it.. I can almost 99% guarantee you that once all our apps making it through the process and everything is "Business as usual" no one will complain about the act except for people that commited the heinous crimes this act tries to help foreign women from...

sbgwolf1
I know we are all going through this together. It may not be as important to many people, but one key fact is always left out. The multiple petitions portion. This had no place in this act at all. Protecting women with an act to reveal your background is one thing, but punishing people over the past that may not have been in their control or was actually the responsible thing to do is just killing me. Needing a waiver (that NOONE can explain or clarify what the criteria is) is crazy. If someone has an approval, and they realize it is a mistake, isnt the mature thing to do end it..then maybe you will find someone you want to spend your life with. Why does that deserve punishment? Why would someone be punished if their fiancee decided he/she couldnt give up EVERYTHING to come to someplace he/she knows nothing about????

Sorry, just these articles are incomplete and leave out many innocent victims of this rediculous legislation
vartan
Thats the problem man we are not people just cases.. and the government admitting a mistake?? It did discuss the multiple petitions but that is not most peoples beef.. here is taken straight from the act. It states everything you need to know about that man. Hope it helps. Again the link is http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/images/IMBRA2005.pdf

‘‘(2)(A) Subject to subparagraphs (cool.gif and ©, a consular officer
may not approve a petition under paragraph (1) unless the officer
has verified that—
‘‘(i) the petitioner has not, previous to the pending petition,
petitioned under paragraph (1) with respect to two or more
applying aliens; and
H. R. 3402—108
‘‘(ii) if the petitioner has had such a petition previously
approved, 2 years have elapsed since the filing of such previously
approved petition.
‘‘(cool.gif The Secretary of Homeland Security may, in the Secretary’s
discretion, waive the limitations in subparagraph (A) if justification
exists for such a waiver. Except in extraordinary circumstances
and subject to subparagraph ©, such a waiver shall not be granted
if the petitioner has a record of violent criminal offenses against
a person or persons.
‘‘©(i) The Secretary of Homeland Security is not limited by
the criminal court record and shall grant a waiver of the condition
described in the second sentence of subparagraph (cool.gif in the case
of a petitioner described in clause (ii).

‘‘(4)(A) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall create a database
for the purpose of tracking multiple visa petitions filed for
H. R. 3402—109
fiance´(e)s and spouses under clauses (i) and (ii) of section
101(a)(15)(K). Upon approval of a second visa petition under section
101(a)(15)(K) for a fiance´(e) or spouse filed by the same United
States citizen petitioner, the petitioner shall be notified by the
Secretary that information concerning the petitioner has been
entered into the multiple visa petition tracking database. All subsequent
fiance´(e) or spouse nonimmigrant visa petitions filed by that
petitioner under such section shall be entered in the database.
‘‘(cool.gif(i) Once a petitioner has had two fiance´(e) or spousal petitions
approved under clause (i) or (ii) of section 101(a)(15)(K), if
a subsequent petition is filed under such section less than 10
years after the date the first visa petition was filed under such
section, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall notify both the
petitioner and beneficiary of any such subsequent petition about
the number of previously approved fiance´(e) or spousal petitions
listed in the database.
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