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kitkat1
The official word it that CSC's processing of K1 petitions once RFEs have been received there is based on your original NOA1 date - it doesn't matter if you were transferred.

Meaning, if you filed in March and you have returned your RFE, your petition will be processed FIRST. If you filed in April, you will be processed AFTER March filers, etc. etc.

She also said that the NVC is not going to be backed up and they can handle the influx of approved fiance visa petitions since almost all other visa categories have been filled for the year.

One last thing - if you get one of those funky, poorly written emails, she said you should call your senator's office and they will call California for a translation into English.

(I read her the "the document we made based on the approval or registration of this case was mailed directly to the person to whom issued" weird email and she agreed that it makes zero sense and that they need to explain it).

Hope this helps

jen&darcy
So I guess that means us that was transferred from Nebraska will just be intermixed with the other California petitions. sad.gif

Also, this proves (if this is what they are doing) that Vermont and California process differently because there are people that just filed in June that are being approved in Vermont.
illumine
QUOTE(jen&darcy @ Jul 12 2006, 12:10 PM) *

Also, this proves (if this is what they are doing) that Vermont and California process differently because there are people that just filed in June that are being approved in Vermont.


Yep. mad.gif

Let's see if they stick to the adjucated within 30 days thing a bunch of senators told us.
William33
The good Senators were not too far off on the RFE issue/mailing dates...

In any case, this is positive news!! Thanks for sharing Kitkat1. good.gif


QUOTE(devilette @ Jul 12 2006, 11:39 AM) *

QUOTE(jen&darcy @ Jul 12 2006, 12:10 PM) *

Also, this proves (if this is what they are doing) that Vermont and California process differently because there are people that just filed in June that are being approved in Vermont.


Yep. mad.gif

Let's see if they stick to the adjucated within 30 days thing a bunch of senators told us.

gupt0014
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:54 AM) *

The official word it that CSC's processing of K1 petitions once RFEs have been received there is based on your original NOA1 date - it doesn't matter if you were transferred.

Meaning, if you filed in March and you have returned your RFE, your petition will be processed FIRST. If you filed in April, you will be processed AFTER March filers, etc. etc.

She also said that the NVC is not going to be backed up and they can handle the influx of approved fiance visa petitions since almost all other visa categories have been filled for the year.

One last thing - if you get one of those funky, poorly written emails, she said you should call your senator's office and they will call California for a translation into English.

(I read her the "the document we made based on the approval or registration of this case was mailed directly to the person to whom issued" weird email and she agreed that it makes zero sense and that they need to explain it).

Hope this helps


I'm not buying it...we'll see though. I bet they will not wait...RFE in hand=NOA2 regardless of NOA1 date...
kitkat1
QUOTE(jen&darcy @ Jul 12 2006, 11:10 AM) *

So I guess that means us that was transferred from Nebraska will just be intermixed with the other California petitions. sad.gif

Also, this proves (if this is what they are doing) that Vermont and California process differently because there are people that just filed in June that are being approved in Vermont.


Well yes, I hadn't thought of that but at least it's still by original NOA1 date instead of by RFE returned date. She also said that Vermont handles a LOT fewer petitions - geographically they receive a lot less - and that's why they move quickly.
Dean iWait
QUOTE(jen&darcy @ Jul 12 2006, 10:10 AM) *

So I guess that means us that was transferred from Nebraska will just be intermixed with the other California petitions. sad.gif

Also, this proves (if this is what they are doing) that Vermont and California process differently because there are people that just filed in June that are being approved in Vermont.



Thanks Kitkat1. This is great news guys! Read it again. I don't know how anyboody can make a negative out of it. It means they will stick to your original processing times that NSC or TSC stated before you were transferred! They are not processing other types of visas like they were before which means they will have more time and more adjudicators to concentrate on K-1's. kicking.gif

The difference between VSC and CSC is VSC recently hired and trained 100 new adjudicators. They have a large building and the room for the new adjudicators.
hockeygal
I think that is their attempt to have a fair process, and I think it is right.

However, I doubt that they will let April and May files with completed RFEs just sit in a pile until they hear back from ALL March NOA1s.

I have July 10 circled on my calender... that was my original anticipated approval date. sad.gif
kitkat1
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I'm not buying it...we'll see though. I bet they will not wait...RFE in hand=NOA2 regardless of NOA1 date...


Well something else to keep in mind is that there is a certain amount of work that needs to be done on each petition in order to approve it. For those who filed in March, for example, I think we can safely assume that by now all of that work was finished and those petitions are waiting for RFE return and final processing in order to be approved.

On the other hand, May petitions may still have additional work that needs to be done, RFE aside, before they can be approved. So even if a May filer returned their RFE last week, their petition may not yet be ready for approval.

Not sure if this is clear or even accurate but I certainly hope so.
hockeygal
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She also said that Vermont handles a LOT fewer petitions - geographically they receive a lot less - and that's why they move quickly.


well shoot. Why do they need 100 more adjudicators then? Why not transfer cases to them instead of always to California? I don't get it.

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there is a certain amount of work that needs to be done on each petition in order to approve it. For those who filed in March, for example, I think we can safely assume that by now all of that work was finished and those petitions are waiting for RFE return and final processing in order to be approved.


I agree. I think March folks will be hearing back very soon.
sbgwolf1
OK, this is my information. When my case went to the CSC, I emailed them concerned my process started over. This was the response I recieved. (I have gotten about 4 others that were of no value other than wait).


"No the initial receipt date does not change. You retain the receipt date of March 29, 2006."

Thanks,
McClellan, CAO
Division XII, Customer Service
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I just talked to my senators office an hour ago and they said CSC are putting the RFE in the files and then going directly to the adjunctors desk. He said that based on my date (3/29) it is in line with others he has inquired about and expects the answer (lets hope approval) within 21 days of the RFE receipt acknowledgment. He said if I do not have an answer by then, to call him back.
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Hope this helps. I cant say how exactly processing happens, but if the 'receipt date' is kept constant, it would appear that the transfer cases will be still worked in the order or NOA1 (this part is my interpretation that other peoples information MAY be correct that I am reading)
kitkat1
QUOTE(sbgwolf1 @ Jul 12 2006, 12:09 PM) *

OK, this is my information. When my case went to the CSC, I emailed them concerned my process started over. This was the response I recieved. (I have gotten about 4 others that were of no value other than wait).


"No the initial receipt date does not change. You retain the receipt date of March 29, 2006."

Thanks,
McClellan, CAO
Division XII, Customer Service
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I just talked to my senators office an hour ago and they said CSC are putting the RFE in the files and then going directly to the adjunctors desk. He said that based on my date (3/29) it is in line with others he has inquired about and expects the answer (lets hope approval) within 21 days of the RFE receipt acknowledgment. He said if I do not have an answer by then, to call him back.
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Hope this helps. I cant say how exactly processing happens, but if the 'receipt date' is kept constant, it would appear that the transfer cases will be still worked in the order or NOA1 (this part is my interpretation that other peoples information MAY be correct that I am reading)


Glad to hear you heard the same thing. It all sounds good and I get the feeling that late March filers will see good news shortly.

Funny about the email from CSC and McClellan - he's the only one who answers email and most of it is unintelligible!!!
GaryC
This is what I have been thinking also. They have been working on the March petitions all along, hence all the touches I have been getting. Then they sent out the RFE, hence all the touches I got after they received it. Then they moved the date to March 3. So...... I am reaffermend in my prediction that the NOA1's from March 6 to the middle of March will get NOA2's next week!!!
hockeygal
gosh. I guess that puts me at approval.... mid Sept? I will be lucky to get to the US by Christmas.

Oh well, it could be worse. We could still be waiting for them to do something about IMBRA compliance!
illumine
QUOTE(GaryC @ Jul 12 2006, 01:19 PM) *

This is what I have been thinking also. They have been working on the March petitions all along, hence all the touches I have been getting. Then they sent out the RFE, hence all the touches I got after they received it. Then they moved the date to March 3. So...... I am reaffermend in my prediction that the NOA1's from March 6 to the middle of March will get NOA2's next week!!!


Yes, but how does that explain June VSCers getting approved or my (May NOA1) touches, the same as yours G?

My senator's office said they expect to adjucate all cases within 30 days. How can that be possible, considering the volume?

Didn't we all get the RFE received email that says prelim processing was done & your time will be shorter, etc...? Could they have preocessed all of our cases in the downtime, I think not.

All I know is my fiance & I are fighting over silly stuff & I am so stressed about not working & this process. sad.gif I'm so very frustrated.

QUOTE(hockeygal @ Jul 12 2006, 01:31 PM) *

gosh. I guess that puts me at approval.... mid Sept? I will be lucky to get to the US by Christmas.

Oh well, it could be worse. We could still be waiting for them to do something about IMBRA compliance!


hey hg, your timeline for your rfe is wrong, fyi. you have april & i think you meant july.... yes.gif
gupt0014
QUOTE(devilette @ Jul 12 2006, 12:31 PM) *

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jul 12 2006, 01:19 PM) *

This is what I have been thinking also. They have been working on the March petitions all along, hence all the touches I have been getting. Then they sent out the RFE, hence all the touches I got after they received it. Then they moved the date to March 3. So...... I am reaffermend in my prediction that the NOA1's from March 6 to the middle of March will get NOA2's next week!!!


Yes, but how does that explain June VSCers getting approved or my (May NOA1) touches, the same as yours G?

My senator's office said they expect to adjucate all cases within 30 days. How can that be possible, considering the volume?

Didn't we all get the RFE received email that says prelim processing was done & your time will be shorter, etc...? Could they have preocessed all of our cases in the downtime, I think not.

All I know is my fiance & I are fighting over silly stuff & I am so stressed about not working & this process. sad.gif I'm so very frustrated.


You senator’s response is "more" accurate. The NOA1 post IMBRA will be somewhat irrelevant. Wait and see…

Regarding the fighting, try talking to him less…trust me…this is very frustrating for both sides. Plus, absence makes the heart grow fonder….

The more you talk over the phone, the more you will argue about stupid $hit…
illumine
QUOTE(gupt0014 @ Jul 12 2006, 01:39 PM) *

Regarding the fighting, try talking to him less…trust me…this is very frustrating for both sides. Plus, absence makes the heart grow fonder….

The more you talk over the phone, the more you will argue about stupid $hit…


It was a nice cold email that started it, ironically about my visit next month. Everything is a hairline trigger these days... unsure.gif
GaryC
QUOTE(devilette @ Jul 12 2006, 12:37 PM) *

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jul 12 2006, 01:19 PM) *

This is what I have been thinking also. They have been working on the March petitions all along, hence all the touches I have been getting. Then they sent out the RFE, hence all the touches I got after they received it. Then they moved the date to March 3. So...... I am reaffermend in my prediction that the NOA1's from March 6 to the middle of March will get NOA2's next week!!!


Yes, but how does that explain June VSCers getting approved or my (May NOA1) touches, the same as yours G?

My senator's office said they expect to adjucate all cases within 30 days. How can that be possible, considering the volume?

Didn't we all get the RFE received email that says prelim processing was done & your time will be shorter, etc...? Could they have preocessed all of our cases in the downtime, I think not.

All I know is my fiance & I are fighting over silly stuff & I am so stressed about not working & this process. sad.gif I'm so very frustrated.


I have no idea what VSC is doing. They make no sense at all how they are doing things.
For the CSC I think that in the 2 month downtime they were working on our cases. I doubt if they furlowed their adjudicators and shut the doors during that time. If they did work on our cases, I think they did because I got 3 touches after they got it in the CSC, then it would be easy for them to finish in 30 days. The form only has 3 questions on it. It would take just a few seconds to look it over, determain if it is OK or needs more info and approve the petition if all is OK!
hockeygal
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hey hg, your timeline for your rfe is wrong, fyi. you have april & i think you meant july....


t'anks! I fixed it...
re the fighting and stress... I hear ya. Sounds like you have a lot going on, on top of the delays in this process. At least you will visit soon. That should take some of the distance pressure off!
kitkat1
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Yes, but how does that explain June VSCers getting approved or my (May NOA1) touches, the same as yours G?

My senator's office said they expect to adjucate all cases within 30 days. How can that be possible, considering the volume?

Didn't we all get the RFE received email that says prelim processing was done & your time will be shorter, etc...? Could they have preocessed all of our cases in the downtime, I think not.


I think you have to take VSC out of the picture entirely. The operate differently - they have more staff and fewer petitions. So how things work there has no bearing on CSC.

I'm not sure what your senator's office meant when they said they expect to adjudicate all cases within 30 days. There is no way that is possible since they need to do a certain amount of work before the RFE. A petition received in early June with an RFE received at the end of June couldn't possibly be adjudicated in 30 days - you are right that they could not have processed all of our cases in the downtime (unless they've just hired a ton of people).

Again, I think it goes back to the idea that there are a pile of March/maybe early April petitions that have been ready to be approved for some time. Once the RFEs are in and processed for those, there is nothing else to do with them. Then they can move onto April/May, etc.
illumine
QUOTE(hockeygal @ Jul 12 2006, 02:02 PM) *

re the fighting and stress... I hear ya. Sounds like you have a lot going on, on top of the delays in this process. At least you will visit soon. That should take some of the distance pressure off!

Yeah, I do have a lot on my plate, or being unemployed, shoud I say nothing on my plate? wink.gif I've had meny interviews - and have 10 yrs. experience. This art market is terrible here & I think many people are afraid I'll leave town, since I have lived in NYC & London. ANyhow,, interviews are still happening so I can hope. Today the guy said so you haven't seen your fiance in 4 months, you def. need to get some energy out. ha! Everyone knows I'm sexless........ tongue.gif

Only 4 weeks to go til I visit!!!
Littleone+Robert
well...we are praying ...and we don't mind waiting if CSC proceed according to the older
innocent.gif
MN&UK
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jul 12 2006, 11:50 AM) *

QUOTE(jen&darcy @ Jul 12 2006, 11:10 AM) *

So I guess that means us that was transferred from Nebraska will just be intermixed with the other California petitions. sad.gif

Also, this proves (if this is what they are doing) that Vermont and California process differently because there are people that just filed in June that are being approved in Vermont.


Well yes, I hadn't thought of that but at least it's still by original NOA1 date instead of by RFE returned date. She also said that Vermont handles a LOT fewer petitions - geographically they receive a lot less - and that's why they move quickly.


Then why the heck didn't some of us Nebraska to Cali transfers get sent to Vermont, for cry eye! I am just saying, even out the case load and stop all of this geographic discrimination. We are all victims of GD and perhaps we can start wearing little rubber bracelets to increase awareness of our dreaded plight.
westguard
Ok here is something confusing!

Our latest case update is the ever popular:

"On July 7, 2006, the document we made based on the approval or registration of this case was mailed directly to the person to whom issued."

Being the curious type, I called the USCIS, waited my 15 minutes (calling from the UK) and was told that 'It is an approval notice and your case has been mailed to the consulate".

I then asked why we had received this approval given that we only sent the IMBRA RFE back on the 10th July, to which they transferred me to a different department (another 15 minute wait) only to be told they could not discuss the case with me as I am the beneficiary, fair enough I thought.

So I asked my fiancee to call and ask the same thing. Sure enough, they said the same thing again. They explained the case had been approved despite the IMBRA RFE and that it was on its way to the consulate.

The receipt for our I129F was filed April 6th 2006.

Firstly, I am confused as to why they used the word 'Consulate'. I thought it went to the NVC (National Visa Center) first, and then we wait for the affadavit of support etc, or is that a term USCIS use as a blanket term for 'it is now out of our hands!'.

Secondly, why tell us it is underway/approved on July 7th, when the IMBRA RFE probably only turned up on their doorstep today?

I guess until my attorney receives a firm letter of approval I will never know, but its nice to think things might be moving forward!
hockeygal
Congratulations! And an April NOA1 taboot!

I find it curious that they don't really have an answer for any of this though. Have we seen and March NOA1's get this approval yet? Maybe we should start a chart for this...?
kitkat1
QUOTE(westguard @ Jul 13 2006, 03:29 PM) *

Ok here is something confusing!

Our latest case update is the ever popular:

"On July 7, 2006, the document we made based on the approval or registration of this case was mailed directly to the person to whom issued."

Being the curious type, I called the USCIS, waited my 15 minutes (calling from the UK) and was told that 'It is an approval notice and your case has been mailed to the consulate".

I then asked why we had received this approval given that we only sent the IMBRA RFE back on the 10th July, to which they transferred me to a different department (another 15 minute wait) only to be told they could not discuss the case with me as I am the beneficiary, fair enough I thought.

So I asked my fiancee to call and ask the same thing. Sure enough, they said the same thing again. They explained the case had been approved despite the IMBRA RFE and that it was on its way to the consulate.

The receipt for our I129F was filed April 6th 2006.

Firstly, I am confused as to why they used the word 'Consulate'. I thought it went to the NVC (National Visa Center) first, and then we wait for the affadavit of support etc, or is that a term USCIS use as a blanket term for 'it is now out of our hands!'.

Secondly, why tell us it is underway/approved on July 7th, when the IMBRA RFE probably only turned up on their doorstep today?

I guess until my attorney receives a firm letter of approval I will never know, but its nice to think things might be moving forward!


Westguard, what state is your fiance in? I would recommend contacting someone at the Senator's office to call CSC and get this ridiculously confusing email translated into English - when I read this email to my Senator's office contact yesterday (I didn't receive it but I commented on it to her) she said that it makes zero sense and that anyone getting it should have their Senator's office call the service center for a true explanation. In your case it's even more confusing since as you said, they had just received the RFE and since they used the word Consulate when we all know the next step is the NVC.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. Hope it really is an approval!
hockeygal
I would hope it is approval based on what Westguard was told, but some people who received it either haven't received their RFE's yet, or just mailed them off...?

vartan
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she said that it makes zero sense and that anyone getting it should have their Senator's office call the service center for a true explanation


For the people who have senators that actually call you back or correspond in any way .. hahahaha..
kitkat1
QUOTE(vartan @ Jul 13 2006, 04:17 PM) *

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she said that it makes zero sense and that anyone getting it should have their Senator's office call the service center for a true explanation


For the people who have senators that actually call you back or correspond in any way .. hahahaha..


Agreed! But if you can't get help from one, call another. I had no luck with the first one (mean, snotty and not helpful) but the second one has been nothing but helpful - returns calls, answers questions, offers help - truly amazing. It's worth a shot to get someone to explain what on earth they are trying to say in that email.
Barry2005
QUOTE(westguard @ Jul 13 2006, 04:29 PM) *

Ok here is something confusing!

Our latest case update is the ever popular:

"On July 7, 2006, the document we made based on the approval or registration of this case was mailed directly to the person to whom issued."

Being the curious type, I called the USCIS, waited my 15 minutes (calling from the UK) and was told that 'It is an approval notice and your case has been mailed to the consulate".

I then asked why we had received this approval given that we only sent the IMBRA RFE back on the 10th July, to which they transferred me to a different department (another 15 minute wait) only to be told they could not discuss the case with me as I am the beneficiary, fair enough I thought.

So I asked my fiancee to call and ask the same thing. Sure enough, they said the same thing again. They explained the case had been approved despite the IMBRA RFE and that it was on its way to the consulate.

The receipt for our I129F was filed April 6th 2006.

Firstly, I am confused as to why they used the word 'Consulate'. I thought it went to the NVC (National Visa Center) first, and then we wait for the affadavit of support etc, or is that a term USCIS use as a blanket term for 'it is now out of our hands!'.

Secondly, why tell us it is underway/approved on July 7th, when the IMBRA RFE probably only turned up on their doorstep today?

I guess until my attorney receives a firm letter of approval I will never know, but its nice to think things might be moving forward!

I did the same today. I called and was told I was approved then I was transferred to another person who said the first person was wrong and I am not approved. Then I asked about my weird status " the document we made based.. ect..." and was told they were going to send me an RFE but then decided not to. Time will tell....
cdngrl
At this point, I don't even remember when our NOA1 actually occured. All I know is that it was sometime at the end of April. Well, if the CSC is now at March 3rd .. and the ol'NSC NOA1 dates still apply ... then this is a good sign. I would hope that a May 2007 wedding date is safe! I am checking out reception halls tomorrow and want to book soon (things are a fillin up!).
E&K
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This is what I have been thinking also. They have been working on the March petitions all along, hence all the touches I have been getting. Then they sent out the RFE, hence all the touches I got after they received it. Then they moved the date to March 3. So...... I am reaffermend in my prediction that the NOA1's from March 6 to the middle of March will get NOA2's next week!!!


I really wish this was true Gary, but I doubt it. Our NOA1 from NSC is March 9th and we still don't have the RFE, not even the e-mail about it! and to top it off we haven't been touched since June 20th! protest6wz.gif
kitkat1
QUOTE(E&K @ Jul 16 2006, 03:45 PM) *

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This is what I have been thinking also. They have been working on the March petitions all along, hence all the touches I have been getting. Then they sent out the RFE, hence all the touches I got after they received it. Then they moved the date to March 3. So...... I am reaffermend in my prediction that the NOA1's from March 6 to the middle of March will get NOA2's next week!!!


I really wish this was true Gary, but I doubt it. Our NOA1 from NSC is March 9th and we still don't have the RFE, not even the e-mail about it! and to top it off we haven't been touched since June 20th! protest6wz.gif


E&K
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE contact your senator first thing Monday morning. Carl Levin's office seems to be good at providing assistance. Fill out the privacy form http://levin.senate.gov/services/casework/...y/GeneralPR.pdf and fax to the office closest to you http://levin.senate.gov/contact/offices.html Then call to follow up ASAP.

There is no reason for you to be waiting and waiting with no information or assistance.

Good luck.
E&K
QUOTE(kitkat1 @ Jul 16 2006, 03:36 PM) *

QUOTE(E&K @ Jul 16 2006, 03:45 PM) *

QUOTE
This is what I have been thinking also. They have been working on the March petitions all along, hence all the touches I have been getting. Then they sent out the RFE, hence all the touches I got after they received it. Then they moved the date to March 3. So...... I am reaffermend in my prediction that the NOA1's from March 6 to the middle of March will get NOA2's next week!!!


I really wish this was true Gary, but I doubt it. Our NOA1 from NSC is March 9th and we still don't have the RFE, not even the e-mail about it! and to top it off we haven't been touched since June 20th! protest6wz.gif


E&K
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE contact your senator first thing Monday morning. Carl Levin's office seems to be good at providing assistance. Fill out the privacy form http://levin.senate.gov/services/casework/...y/GeneralPR.pdf and fax to the office closest to you http://levin.senate.gov/contact/offices.html Then call to follow up ASAP.

There is no reason for you to be waiting and waiting with no information or assistance.

Good luck.


Thank you for the info KitKat, I'll ask my fiance to contact his senator first think tomorrow morning, hopefully we'll get an answer from them soon.
jen&darcy
Well I have been away for 3 days with my daughter camping with Girls Scouts. I was hoping to come back and see the early March filers having their NOA2s. sad.gif

I think I will be contacting my senator tomorrow to see what she says.
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