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Stephane
Hello all,
I just gave some new about my last visit (prior to interview) to the U.S. Embassy in Paris. We are applying for K-1.
Things went well, see the details if interested
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...20571&st=15

I'm jut here posting about one problem: they asked me to produce a police record from China, because I studied and traveled there, totalizing more than a year (but no one stay was up to a year)... and of course, China is such a country that such documents can be obtain only... in China.
I gave details about my visit to the Chinese Embassy in Paris in the thread above.

Did this kind of thing happened to anybody? What if I cannot provide this document?
Advice welcome!

JRluvsLhyn
QUOTE(Stephane @ Jul 7 2006, 03:05 PM) *

Hello all,
I just gave some new about my last visit (prior to interview) to the U.S. Embassy in Paris. We are applying for K-1.
Things went well, see the details if interested
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...20571&st=15

I'm jut here posting about one problem: they asked me to produce a police record from China, because I studied and traveled there, totalizing more than a year (but no one stay was up to a year)... and of course, China is such a country that such documents can be obtain only... in China.
I gave details about my visit to the Chinese Embassy in Paris in the thread above.

Did this kind of thing happened to anybody? What if I cannot provide this document?
Advice welcome!


Hi! I live and work in Taiwan (Republic of China) for 3 yrs. and I am required to submit police report when I came here to U.S. I did went to chinese embassy in the Philippines (my country) and get an application to acquire police report from taiwan. they give me all the information with the forms. you have to send the application with the copy of alien resident card, copy of passport, required application fee, and stamp envelop provided. it tooks about a month to get it to you. but I did sent all my documents to my friend there and she took care of it in my behalf which make faster. I don't know if it would be the same in your case but I am sure the chinese embassy there would be able to help you. Good luck!
Stephane
Even if at the Embassy they told me I needed it, I actually never spent a full year in China.
Is the time spent in a foreign country supposed to be continuous for at least a year, or do they officially consider that is it the cumulative time spent in that country? Where to find that explicit rule?
Thanks
gimygirl
QUOTE(Stephane @ Jul 9 2006, 07:24 PM) *

Even if at the Embassy they told me I needed it, I actually never spent a full year in China.
Is the time spent in a foreign country supposed to be continuous for at least a year, or do they officially consider that is it the cumulative time spent in that country? Where to find that explicit rule?
Thanks



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Police certificates are required from every visa applicant aged 16 years or over for each locality of the country of the applicant‹s nationality or current residence where the applicant has resided for at least six months since attaining the age of sixteen. Police certificates are also required from all other countries where the applicant has resided for at least one year.


IF the applicant is living in their country of nationality at their current residence for more than 6 months
AND is 16 years old or older
THEN the applicant needs a police certificate from the police authorities of that locality.

IF the applicant lived in a different part of their country of nationality for more than 6 months
AND was 16 years or older at that time
THEN the applicant needs a police certificate from the police authorities of that locality.

IF the applicant lived in a different country for more than 12 months
AND was 16 years or older at that time
THEN the applicant needs a police certificate from the police authorities of that locality.


IF the applicant was arrested for any reason, regardless of how long they lived there
AND was any age at that time
THEN the applicant needs a police certificate from the police authorities of that locality.

Stephane
Thanks gimygirl. I managed to talk to someone at the U.S. Embassy who actually said that it was left to the officer interpretation but since I went many times to China and had been a student there they will most probably require it.
The fun thing is that one can get it only in China, at a local PSB of the county of previous residence.
What do you do when you don't know anyone anymore there that could help you getting it?
And when the Chinese Embassy tells you they can't do anything... And when the French Embassy in China tells you that most probably you'll have to fly to China?

Actually, for those who might need it one day, here is the info for China from the "reciprocity tables":

Individuals residing outside of China may obtain notarial certificates from the notarial office with jurisdiction over the county of previous residence. Chinese relatives or friends may request issuance of certificates on behalf of someone now living abroad. Relatives and friends should have specific written authorization from the interested party before they request certificates. Alternatively, persons in need of notarial documents may contact the PRC Embassy or Consulate nearest to their residence abroad and ask that the request be forwarded to the appropriate notarial office. Obtaining a notarial certificate through a PRC Embassy or Consulate can require considerable time.


POLICE RECORD
Generally available, reliable. Persons should apply for a certificate of no criminal record at the local Public Security Bureau (PSB) (or certain types of employers such as state owned enterprises), then make application to the notary office for a certificate based on the PSB document. Persons without a criminal record will be able to obtain a certificate to that effect. Certificates for individuals with one or more criminal convictions will list all convictions for which records still exist. The certificates purport to reflect all criminal convictions during residence in China. Police records are generally not available for the period prior to 1949. Notarial police certificates are based in part upon records from an individual's employer. If an employer refuses to release records, the notarial office is not able to issue a certificate. This is the case for persons sent abroad for education by the Chinese Government who fail to return to China.

According to a 1957 state council ruling that is still in force, the imposition of a re-education through labor (Lao Dong Jiao Yu) term does not result from a criminal conviction. Administrative organs, rather than courts, impose re-education through labor. It is important to distinguish re-education through labor from labor reform (Lao Dong Gai Zao), which is a sentence meted out for criminal offenses.

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