God's Blessings On All,
Well sometimes things don't turn out as you expect. Shely and I are on the brink of divorce. Who would have guessed. We've been married since Nov. 09 2006 and already calling an end possibly to it. With God All Things Are Possible so perhaps it won't happen. Pray for us. Shely has gotten her green card, new car, job so what can be wrong. Ah! somethings are just too personal to talk about. Well, is there anyone who can advise us about what we need to do concerning the USCIS if anything. How long can Shely stand in USA after divorce? What papers need to be filed other than divorce papers? Any advice will be deeply by both of us. We still wish the very best for each other in this world. Wish I could share our problem with you but some things are just too personal. God's Blessings On All!!!
Joyful and Thankful,
Shely and Carmine
p.s. Jim, sometimes it's hard to understand God's Plan

Wow....I cannot believe it. I dont know what kind of advice I can give u guys....but I just wanna tell you this: I am praying for you and I hope evrything will end up being alright again for you guys.
I wish u all my best

Maria

how you got married in the future?

c'mon...

For the OP: I dont know what you should do, but wish you both all the best, even if it means to not be together anymore...

Carol

Divorce should not interfere with her ability to remain in the USA, if the marriage was genuine. She'll need bona fides to present with her waiver I-751 if you do divorce. Make sure she has copies of joint bank accounts, tax returns, insurance, bills for the time youbare residing together.

have you considered a marriage counsellor to help you work things out perhaps rather than jump to divorce?

Sorry to hear that, Carmine. I too would strongly recommend counseling if she is willing to. Even if she isn't, I'd recommend going by yourself. It's obvious that you sincerely wanted to have a lasting marriage. Hang in there. With God, there is a purpose and reason for everything.

Peace,

Steven

well I pray things work out according to God's WILL

Hope you get things worked out...

Sometimes adjusting to a new life can be difficult. Talk a lot and try to sort problems out... If there is love, then there is still a chance...

Good luck...

Have you considered couple's therapy? Less than one year marriage ending in divorce... there must be another solution... or at least an attempt to solve it...

Why would she want to stay in the US after the divorce? If Idivorced my husband the first thing I would do would be to go home to my family, my country, my people.

What is the point of staying here on one's own?

Alex.

The others have offered some very good advice, if you can get couple counciling and try to work it out. The first year of marriage is very rough, not like we all dream of sometimes but if you can get past this hopefully you can make your marriage even stronger. Plus the immigration process sure can be hard on us vs. normal couples who had enough to deal with. I am praying for you that you two can work it out and come out of this with a better marriage. But if you can't get your wife to work on the marriage make sure you look out for yourself and do what is best for you so you can get on with your life.

Best of Luck and God Bless you,

Paula

Good luck, but I have a feeling I know what's going on here after reading your story, seeing your age, and reading your original post. Sounds like she got what she wanted, and it's time for her to move one. If she has any love for you, and given how much you say you love her, maybe there's a chance to work things out. Sorry to hear about your problems.

These are words of wisdom...adjustment is a difficult process for both parties and may seem like there is no way out and separation is the only remedy....but I believe that with God's help and open communication...where love is present things can be salvaged and a marriage can be saved...best of luck...

The only immigration related matter you need to worry about after the divorce is the I-864 (Affidavit of Support) you filed.

She needs to worry about everything else.

Well, typical MOB......I tell you, everyone has to be careful about the women from high fraud nations..I'm sure she won't want to go back to her country...she has her GC now, what more would she want? I'm sorry this happened to you, dude..really am...no one deserves that..

It looks as if she's adjusted to her new life in America pretty quickly and easily. Not even a year has passed since she first arrived to get married and yet she already has a job which allows her to own and pay for a brand new car.



This marriage no longer involves any immigration processes, since she already has a Green Card.

sure it does, there's the affidavit of support that he's still responsible for her for 10 years or until she is given citizenship.

Please dont say things unless youre sure about what youre talking. it ofcourse involves immigration process. if the immigrant doesnt file for removal of conditions within 3 months before the conditional GC expire, he/she will automatically loose the residency and hence become removable. also you have to deal with USCIS on one way or the other untill you become a citizen.




Seems like some people here are good in jumping on to conclusions, the OP has stated he has withheld some info since its personal. so i guess its not your day to judge people on the forum

I am sorry to hear about it. It happens to the best of us. If divorce is truly your best course of action, I would write a letter to the USCIS office, which approved the case, as well as the USCIS in general and advise them of this development and your request to retract and void your sponsorship of this person..

Likewise to KingQM, I advise people here to be cautious with partners from high risk 2nd / 3rd world nations.. I have seen people say. "yaaaaayyy for AOS approval. Now on to citizenship!!". Common sense leads me to believe that this person is a little too keen on citizenship and that this was possibly their intention from day 1.. A friend of mine went through a similar situation not too long ago. He pursued the relationship with blinkers on, only to realize later on that this person was just trying to get into Australia... Of course I by no means am saying this is the case with the OP..


Disclaimer: Word of warning does NOT mean every person described above is guilty, just advice for people to be cautious..

Infidel,

Once the adjustment of status is approved, the Affidavit of Support is irrevocable, unless the alien is found to have committed fraud and then a denial or rescission of permanent residency would render the I-864 unnecessary.

I know of a woman who, after being engaged to her US fiance, restarted an affair with previous boyfriend, got pregnant and had an abortion a week before she came to the US on her K1 VISA. After being told of this, the US fiance still wants to marry her! Hmmm, what do you think HER intentions are?

P.T. Barnum had a good phrase for people like that.

wow crazy

Heeeeeeeeey I am high fraud country too, no ?

My marriage is working great so far but if, God forbid, it came to the divorce I woulnd't stay here a minute. So please don't judge people by some stupid stereotypes.


But I am sorry for what happened.

Ana



drives me crazy when people assume that coming to America and staying here is the only thing somebody might have on agenda.

I'm so sorry to hear it, and while I know your reasons are personal, the timing of it is suspicious.

Either way, to protect yourself, I'd see if there's either a) a family/divorce attorney that has dealt with immigration-related divorces before or b.) an immigration attorney that's dealt with divorces before.

I know the idea of an attorney sounds, well, expensive and unnecessary, but when you work in divorce court you quickly find out that the old saying is true: cheap is dear.

Perhaps a little research is in order before resurrecting old posts...


http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...c=22032&hl=

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry359908

Jen

I am so sorry to hear that things are not working out Rocky, but I wish you all the best of luck in getting it all sorted out.

Another thread, and yet another reason WHY we need a "divorce" Forum on this board.

To the OP: I'm sorry for your ending, but the God/dess doesn't close doors without opening
windows... I'm learning this all too well myself...

We were married almost exactly two years before she split... I have no doubt she was being fed info from others that "you need to stay married two years, then you're home free!"... that info isn't quite correct, but I'm sure she didn't know that...

As to the parts in this thread about the "Affidavit of support", I posted a HUGE thread on why this is almost NEVER used in any action. It can be used by the alien spouse ~IF~ there is no minimum-poverty level support. Literally only a "handful" of actions have taken place over the last nine years and these were all done by disgruntled ex-spouses.

However, in this thread, I believe he said she already HAD a job, so this likely ain't gonna happen. She's already making MORE than minimum wage.

The entire thread, including the topic of the Affidavit of Support discussion is at:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23285

-- Dan, that been there, done that, and man, I shouldn't have bought ~that~ T-shirt kind of guy...






Ana:

It was the last thing on my mind that I thought my Russian ex-wife wanted. The reality seems to be that she was much more interested in a "good life" in America than in being married to me. But you know, it makes me furious when people tell me this is all that every Russian woman wants.

There's good and bad in every culture, in every group, and it's difficult but unfortunately many people get judged by the bad actions of a few.

I'm finding as I return to talking to Eastern European women that they find me to have "SERIOUS" intentions, having gone through this process, getting burned, and yet still being willing to try again.

So thanks for sharing that angry-ness in your post, I think in some cases it's well deserved.

-- Dan, that half-Polish, been to Russia five times and still might go back again guy

sorry ...

I will pray for you guys but please talk, talk and talk and then listen, listen and listen. Communication is key, if you can get prof. help do so.

Good luck,

Peter Miami

i am so sorry to hear your situation now.. i think you should talk about it wholeheartedly and what u really want for the both of you. check on when and how this problem started. and maybe u can start from there.
marriage counselling is a good step..who knows u still can work it out.
we will be praying for you.
Godbless.

rocky,

I don't know about God's plan, but reading the story in your personal information and the 7th sentence of your post here I have a credible idea about Shely's plan.

In any case, if you and she do decide to divorce immigration becomes her issue and you will no longer play a direct role in that. Although you may be affected indirectly if the USCIS questions her intentions and she decides that she has to play the 'abuse card' if that's the only way she can remove conditions.

Yodrak





Reba,

1 wrong, 1 right, and 3 missing.

Yodrak

After all that, what do you think HIS are???

Of course citizenship is desirable. Why would anyone want to live a thrid rate life? If you are living in a country and paying taxes you should have all the rights as citizens do, including the right to vote..the right to have your voice heard. I wonder who does not want citizenship among the immigrating spouses? Anyone here on this forum who think having citizenship is really not important???

Just as an FYI, there are some countries in the world, today, where even their citizens' voices aren't heard

Most of the Canadians. Many of the UKers. Lots of the western Europeans. All of the apathetics.

Those who read the Bible know about you will foresake father, mother, daughter, son, wife, child or whoever for the Love of Jesus Christ. No one or nothing comes before Our God! So, you see I'm fine for I am not overcomed by this world.

Interesting. This same bible says that you are to love your wife as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it. If God really intended for one to abandon that which he has given, I seriously doubt he would have given it in the first place. Having said this, why would you even assume God would have you put him ahead of the one you have proclaimed he has given to you?

By the way, all this is mentioned in the book of Ephesians.

I really hope you and your wife find a way to salvage this.

Marriage counseling will only strengthen her case. In other words, that the marriage was entered into with bona fide intentions since day 1.



Those who didn't marry with that intention.

Sorry, but the OP has not posted in over a month. Who's to say that this is even an issue anymore?
Could possibly be much ado about nothing.

The Energizer Bunny keep on kicking! Dmartmar, my friend, is that a permanent groove you've worn across those brain synapses?

If so why did you get naturalized? Are you from a ´Third World´ country ?

It is really sadistic to think that one would be happy living in the US without having the full rights citizens enjoy.If you choose to live in the US and if you want equal treatment and full rights then naturalization is the only way... a desire. A person´s being from UK or Western Europe does not change the treatment s/he gets in the US. If you are not a citizen you are not a citizen.

Heh, Third World country---er yeah, California. Sounds about right.
My husband naturalized because this is where he lives.

It's not sadistic (you choose some inflammatory words!) to think one would/could be happy living in the US as "only" a PR---hundreds of thousands do just that for a wide variety of reasons. I can see that it is a priority for *you*, and as a citizen, I'm glad you feel that way. But I don't hold anyone in lesser esteem because they don't want to become a USC (tho I've gone 'round and 'round with my Canadian haircutter on the topic---she is adamant--NO way she wants to naturalize).

Recognize too that not all people *can* naturalize, even when they want to.. but your question was about people who think it's not important to naturalize. I think if you posted that question to a more general forum, you would get a lot of response. Hey, you should post it to off topic--it would be interesting to see what people have to say.

Krikit--I think you broke out the popcorn *very* prematurely.

We talked at some length about me becoming a citizen and decided it would be in my best interests and my young son's, I guess comes down to having options come any 'unforseen' circumstances in the future (and I am not thinking divorce in particular). I just assumed that I would want to return to the UK if anything bad happened ie divorce, death etc etc but as my husband says, what if I don't have anything to go back for once my life is established in the US? so yeh, I see his point and will go for citizenship.

Not sure why the UK people wouldn't bother naturalising. Given that you don't have to give up your UKC to become a USC, naturalising would seem like a win-win situation for all. I certainly plan on doing it in the future.

Some of them are particularly nationalistic; I base my comments on reading at a British Expats message board.
Many also feel that it's a win/win.

Some time back, someone brought up a very important and much overlooked value to naturalisation, that even I had not given much thought to at the time. We all are aware of the typical criminal convictions that can trigger a deportation order, and for the large part, Legal Permanent Residents would be inclinced, as I, to think, "Well, I'd never have to worry about that!". But what if, by some stroke of bad luck you were falsely accused or worse yet, engaged in any of the following? !

Child abuse, child neglect or child abandonment
Domestic Violence
Stalking.

A crime involving fraud, whether against the government or an individuals, where fraud is an element, is a Crime Involving Moral Turpitude. This includes receiving stolen property, passing bad
checks, forgery, theft or fraud by use of an ATM access card (credit or debit) or obtaining money under false pretenses, securities fraud, or defrauding the public of money or valuable security.

Even, on occasion, a hit and run accident may be considered a CIMT when there is failure to aid a badly injured victim.

And of course, the following are considered CIMTs and can prove tricky when attempting to naturalise.

-Concealing assets in a bankruptcy
-Encumbering mortgaged property with intent to defraud
-Fraudulently issuing check with insufficient funds
-Fraudulently issuing worthless check
-Illegal use of ATM or credit card
-Passing forged instrument
-Adultery
-Bigamy
-Prostitution
-Sodomy
-Gross indecency
-Contributing to the delinquency of a minor/sexual acts
-Taking indecent liberties with a child
-Incest
-Oral sexual perversion
-Falsely issuing a narcotic prescription
-Offering a bribe
-Making, passing, or possessing counterfeit coins
-Conspiracy to violate IRS laws
-Securities fraud
-Counterfeiting
-Smuggling merchandise
-Impersonating a federal officer
-False statements or firearm
-False statements or entries
-Harboring a fugitive
-Using false names and addresses to violate postal laws
-Uttering or selling false or counterfeit immigration documents
-False statements to obtain a passport
-False statements in LPR application
-Perjury
-Theft from US mail
-Taking kickbacks
-Receiving funds by false statements
-Trafficking in narcotics
-Failing to report income
-Union official unlawfully accepting a loan
-Kickbacks on government contracts
-False statements/selective service
-Falsely representing social security number
-False statements or unemployment benefits

So when are you up to bat, mermaid?

Once I had a gander at the list and saw "Oral sexual perversion", a hazard in my line of work, I hot-footed it to post my application. . It's signed, sealed and delivered ma'am!

Well, yes. If you're not going to leave those Tootsie Pops alone, this is probably your best bet!

(really ewwww with the work reference, btw!!!)